Not a sexual predator. According to his publicist he just has issues understanding the power imbalance he has with some women.

I mean, really, in a way he's kind of the victim here.

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

Asking a woman to watch me shower? Some call it a fetish. Some think it sue worthy appropriate. I try to stay away from the latter. Ashley's one of my girls too. I'd fuck him up if I saw that filthy bastard.

Exactly! ;-)

I have to say, I'm impressed with how quickly he and his PR and legal teams went on the counterattack against the NYT and other media outlets. He's got big time juice in Hollywood, too, plus he's a huge contributor to various political causes. I'm guessing there's going to be a bit of discreet silence from politicians and others who've benefited from his donations over the years.

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This Ashley?...

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

To be fair, when she's not playing cray-cray she can be quite interesting as an actress.

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"Politics is just show business for ugly people."

To be fair she went off on a tirade about one man because of some “misogynistic” words he spoke and kept silent about another man who took misogynistic action.

Her silence alowed Weinstein’s behavior to be thrust upon other women.

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

Please don't use "Weinstein," "thrust" and "women" in the same sentence, sir. ;-)

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Just trying to keep it clean. Maybe I should hop in the shower? Care to watch?

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

Ugh. I just threw up in my mouth a little at the thought. ;-)

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"Politics is just show business for ugly people."

Hold on. I thought Hollywood was at the forefront of the liberal agenda, pushing equal rights, social justice and ecological matters?

And you're saying there's a section of it's population who use power to sate their own selfish desires, like preying on young starlets and starlettes?

Surely they should have been called out and hung from the lamposts by now?

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Swim. Overbike. Walk.

Shirley.

Hollywood celebs are on the good side. It's just sex. Nothing to see here.

Naw. You don't use soap.

"This guy, a sex predator? No way! "

Yes, because that's the only chance he has.

Just look at him.

Greg

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If you are a Canuck that engages in gratuitous bashing of the US, you are probably on my Iggy List. So, save your self a bunch of typing a response unless you also feel the need to gratuitously bash me. If so, have fun.
"Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f___ things up" - Barack Obama, 2020

He's a huge Democratic donor and pals with Hills and Obama.

Does he part own a pizza shop?

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You are attempting to imply that is fake news? You're an idiot. (Guess where Obama's daughter interned).

Nah, no implication of fake news. I fully believe it's true and that Hollywood values are a facade

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Swim. Overbike. Walk.

I'm a much simpler man than you. I don't need to know someone's political leanings to judge how physically attractive they are.

Hollywood still honors Roman Polanski as one of their best. He was accused by another actress this week for actions from years ago.

He recently admitted to child rape but says "it's over," as if self-pronouncing an end to the saga is all that matters.

"Speaking at the Zurich Film Festival, Roman Polanski made a rare comment on the rape conviction that caused him to flee the United States. Polanski was arrested and charged with raping Samantha Geimer, who was 13 at the time, in 1977. In a plea bargain, the director pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor, but fled to Paris when he heard the judge was considering giving him 50 years in prison.
“As you know, Samantha Geimer has been asking for over 30 years for this thing to end. But, I’m sorry the judges who dealt with it the last 40 years were corrupted, one covering for the other … maybe one of them will (eventually) stop doing it,” he said, according to The Hollywood Reporter. “As far as what I did: It’s over. I pleaded guilty. I went to jail. I came back to the United States to do it, people forget about that, or don’t even know. I then was locked up here (in Zurich) after this festival. So in the sum, I did about 4 or 5 times than what was promised to me,” Polanksi said."

He's a fugitive from the law in the United States and hasn't been able to set foot on U.S. soil in decades, for fear of being immediately arrested, yet he's lived the good life in Europe and elsewhere and is even mightily applauded for his art in Hollywood, where's he's received standing ovations from a galaxy of Tinseltown stars, producers and directors.

He's actually a child rapist. But he's an artist, and one of the kindred spirits in the "artist" community in Hollywood, so he gets a free pass from them, I suppose.

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In other SHOCKING news - cyclists dope, NBA players cheat on their wives, NFL players take steroids, and NCAA basketball is corrupt.

That doesn't make it right. It just makes the wrongs more commonplace, is all.

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I have to admit that Felonia Von Pantsuit would have cut quite an attractive figure in jailhouse orange the color of the current Oval Office occupant's hair. ;-)

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So weird. I wonder why Weinstein was fingered, because there are far more lecherous douchebags in Hollywood. Just none as big as him, I guess. So, I suppose the play is to take out the most visible one in an attempt to cause change?

A friend of mine was (is?) a failed actress, and she told me some crazy stories about the powerful Industry men who demanded sex in exchange for work. She says she never gave in, and I believe her due to her very limited body of work. If I recall correctly, there was a book published maybe 20 years ago about Hollywood's sexual depravity. "You'll Never Make Love in This Town Again," or something like that.

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Lots of folks in Tinseltown, people from a certain political party, and many figures in the media are scrambling to avoid the fallout and to distance themselves from Weinstein. But he's certainly left a wide money trail behind:

Former Obama Adviser Anita Dunn helped Harvey Weinstein strategize his response to the sexual harassment exposee.

"Anita Dunn, a top Obama campaign staffer and former White House communications director, helped offer damage control advice for the Hollywood mogul....

Dunn was not paid by Weinstein for her help, according to one of the people familiar with the matter. But she did offer her PR advice, including in regards to a Sept. 23 Times story written by Megan Twohey. The story, about a controversy over Weinstein's work with AIDS charity amfAR, was thought to be a precursor to the big investigation posted on Thursday.

Sources said that Lanny Davis, former special counsel to Bill Clinton, has been central to the PR effort for Weinstein, who is a major Democratic donor. Dunn, for her part, is the managing director of SKDKnickerbocker, a Washington public affairs firm with deep ties to Democratic politics. She was communications director for Obama’s 2008 campaign and served briefly in his administration."


Harvey Weinstein's lawyer also gave $10,000 to the Manhattan DA after that DA failed to file sexual harassment charges against him. How cozy.

"Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein’s lawyer delivered $10,000 to Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance, Jr. in 2015, in the months after Vance’s office decided not to prosecute Weinstein over sexual assault allegations, according to an International Business Times review of campaign finance documents. That contribution from attorney David Boies --- who previously headlined a fundraiser for Vance — was a fraction of the more than $182,000 that Boies, his son and his law partners have delivered to the Democrat during his political career.

Boies has done legal work for Weinstein since at least 2005, and his website at his law firm says his clients include The Weinstein Company."


David Boies was Al Gore's recount lawyer. Apparently he's been a big cash-money bestest friend of the DA -- Cyrus Vance, Jr. (whose father was once US Secretary of State under Jimmy Carter) -- who presides over the jurisdiction where a lot of very powerful movie, theater and media people live. That must all work out nicely for them.

Even CNN's Chris Cillizza grasps that this is all a problem for a certain political party.

"And it's hard to see how Obama and the Clintons -- Weinstein is a long time pal of Bill and Hillary -- can avoid putting out statements condemning him for his behavior. That's especially true since Weinstein isn't really denying the Times story; he's threatening a lawsuit simply saying the news organization didn't give him enough time to respond.

But there's more to this story than simply issuing statements condemning Weinstein or returning his now-tainted money. These paragraphs from the Times story gets to that broader point:

"In interviews, some of the former employees who said they had troubling experiences with Mr. Weinstein asked a common question: How could allegations repeating the same pattern — young women, a powerful male producer, even some of the same hotels — have accumulated for almost three decades?

"'It wasn't a secret to the inner circle,' said Kathy DeClesis, Bob Weinstein's assistant in the early 1990s. She supervised a young woman who left the company abruptly after an encounter with Harvey Weinstein and who later received a settlement, according to several former employees."

Then there's this from New York magazine's Rebecca Traister: "I have been having conversations about Harvey Weinstein's history of sexual harassment for more than 17 years."

It seems like Weinstein's boorish behavior -- to put it mildly -- was an open secret in the circles he ran in. The prevailing sentiment when the New York Times published its piece was not "WOW!" but rather "Finally!"

That's important. If everyone around Weinstein knew about his inappropriate conduct around women, why were so many Democratic politicians willing to pal around with him and/or accept his money?"


From some reports, Weinstein's lost huge power in Hollywood and in the media since his company and his movies have been tanking. Plus, he was a real a-hole, from many reports, so maybe the long knives came out when people saw their chance at a little payback?

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I was shocked, because I thought Harvey Weinstein was solidly gay. Then I realized I was thinking of Harvey Fierstein.


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When does he start for Fox News??

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Fester from Detroit, Mi

Me too.


Who the hell is he?

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My name is H-, I'm a recovering political addict who tries to avoid the subject these days. I've been sober for, well, I'm not sure, a few days probably.

Anyway, dude, you need to attend a meeting asap. Writing "a certain political party" is like drinking from bottle in a brown paper bag.

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I try to stay away from politics as much as possible, but there was no way around it with this story. But I don't want to get down into partisan mudslinging, so I went with "certain political party." ;-)

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"Politics is just show business for ugly people."

Why write:


when you could just write: "Idiot pundit Chris Cillizza . . ."

I believe "idiot pundit" should precede all political pundits, e.g., idiot pundit Rush Limbaugh, idiot pundit Maureen Dowd, idiot pundit Thomas Friedman, Paul Krugman, Sean Hannity, etc.

Shoot, I suppose "pundit" suffices.

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I hear these stories and I just don't understand. I guess the opportunity to make large on being the victim of a sexual predator is more important than assuring other women don't become victims as well. Isn't that what every woman who takes the money is doing?

And what about the women victims or witnesses that didn't get money? What are the journalistic standards for printing "Woman X came to speak with me, and she told me she was eye witness to Harvey Weinstein's sexual perversions Y and Z"?

And what about the men that see this same shit? There must have been men from all walks of life that knew just as much as the women coming forward. They just keep quiet?

An admittedly shaky hypothesis: In America our tribalism and our media love to take people down. However, on a very personal basis nobody wants to be the particular heavy responsible for ruining someone's life -- even if that someone is doing horrible shit.

The real question is not why, but why now?

It’s been known for years, decades, that Weinstein did this shit.

It doesn’t matter though. He’s “right on the issues” so no real harm will come to him.

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

My favorite part is the accusation that this is a vast right wing conspiracy. Seriously? Democrats can't get rid of his money fast enough. For an interesting read, check out the donation patterns to Cyrus Vance Jr. from both Weinstein and Weinstein's attorney David Boises. Things that make you go hmmmm.

How could this conflict of interest possibly be legal????


A conflict of interest is a situation in which a person or organization is involved in multiple interests, financial or otherwise, one of which could possibly corrupt the motivation or decision-making of that individual or organization. Wikipedia

   It appears that the NYT suppressed the story when they had it in 2004. His lawyer/advocate Lisa Bloom (Gloria Allred's daughter) has parted ways with him. Weinstein has been fired from his own production company.
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Good news though; according to his statement, he is now going to focus his rage on the NRA, has hired therapists to help overcome his demons, and is donating 5 million dollars for scholarships for women directors at USC. The man is full of liberal goodness, so we should give him a break!
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https://www.nytimes.com/...arvey-weinstein.html

It seems tales of his groping, grasping and fapping in front of stars, starlets and ingenues are legion and growing by the day, now that the dam has broken.

Nice to see that the actress and semi-literate, pu$$yhat-wearing slam poet, Ashley Judd, who apparently fell into the tender ministrations of Weinstein more than 20 years ago -- and made several movies with him since then -- has bravely come forward and spilled the beans. Now that the Hollywood mogul's on the downside of his career and no longer of any use to her, that is. ;-)

Still waiting for all those woke late-night Hollywood talk show hosts -- the Jimmy Kimmel-types, as well as Saturday Night Live-- to take a shot at parodying Mr. (no longer) Miramax. It seems SNL considered doing just that this past weekend, but in the end declined to do so because, in the words of founder Lorne Michaels, "It's a New York thing." Harv's a fellow Noo Yawker, don't you see?

I don't want to be too hard on those folks out there in La-La Land, though. Because we all know that Hollywood is America's conscience, or something. They're special, in other words. And should be treated so. Ummmmmmmm...

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"Politics is just show business for ugly people."

Yet Trump is a New Yorker and SNL has no problems parodying him. So Mr. Michaels excuse, reasoning doesn't hold a lot of water. Lorne Michaels is a checkshit, plain and simple.

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Good point. I used to comfort myself by using Occam's Razor to explain most events, but these are wild times... so wild that I don't think Occam's Razor can be my default any longer.

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War is god

How cute, what a quaint concept...

My guess is, a lot of people with long knives were just waiting for the old bull to lose his vigor (i.e. his power and influence, in Weinstein's case) so that they could strike. From some reports, Harv's brother Bob also wanted him gone from the board of Miramax, which had lately produced a string of turkeys under Harvey's guidance.

A report out today says, as well, that New York magazine had the entire story last year, but had been intimidated into not publishing it:

"New York magazine had the Harvey Weinstein story - -or nearly had it -- a year ago but didn’t run anything after the movie mogul and his team of lawyers and p.r. consultants intervened.


Reporter Ben Wallace spent months interviewing dozens of people in Weinstein’s world in the hope of exposing Weinstein’s history of sexual aggression toward young women.

“New York magazine had the story a year ago, and Harvey had it killed,” one source told me.

“Harvey was sweating bullets. He sat down with Editor-in-Chief Adam Moss, and they were still going ahead. Then, it suddenly went away. The reporter must be kicking himself now.”

Wallace declined to speak to me."

New York magazine fumbled its own Harvey Weinstein exposé | Page Six

There's some wiggle room in that story, but given Weinstein's reputation -- and the reputation of his bulldog lawyers, with both Weinstein and his ambulance chasers immediately attacking any source threatening disclosure of his fap-tastic past exploits -- it seems plausible.

The former Miramax chieftan also seems to have run Hollywood as his personal fiefdom and private Playboy bunny ranch, passing out favors to preferred media companies and individuals, none of whom dared to go up against the man for fear of losing their access and special treatment. Such treatment included career enhancement in the case of many Tinseltown reporters if they played ball and went along, even if they had personal information about -- or personal experience of -- his sexual harassment and predatory sexual nature.

Essentially, he compromised the media through a reign of terror on those he didn't like and sheer force of will and the raining down of favors on those he did. And, in turn, the media became complicit in his sexual harassment of women, knowingly, willingly and cynically.

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"Politics is just show business for ugly people."

Another good article saying something similar...

http://www.weeklystandard.com/...hink/article/2009995

Yup. Speaking up might have hurt their chances to be in one of his movies.

Hollywood’s Loud Silence on Harvey Weinstein’s Sexual Harassment Allegations: Several high-profile Hollywood figures flatly refused to comment on the allegations of serial sexual harassment and sexual assault against the influential movie mogul.

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Looks like Matt Damon and Russell Crowe were also complicit in hushing up Weinstein's excesses:

Matt Damon, Russell Crowe Reportedly Helped Kill a 2004 New York Times Harvey Weinstein Article

"Though the New York Times has been widely celebrated for its article exposing decades of sexual-harassment accusations against Harvey Weinstein, one journalist claims the paper sat on an earlier article detailing the producer’s misconduct. Sharon Waxman, founder of the Wrap, writes that her own investigate reporting, which took her on an international trip to uncover rumors of Weinstein’s sexual misconduct, was cut from the Times in 2004 under pressure from several Hollywood elites. Waxman alleges in the Wrap that Matt Damon and Russell Crowe called her “directly” to dispel the reports she was following about Miramax’s Italian head Fabrizio Lombardo, who was allegedly hired “to take care of Weinstein’s women needs.” She says that because of their influence, and interference from Weinstein, whose company was a big advertiser in the Times, the article was edited to remove the more salacious details. Damon and Crowe had previously worked with Weinstein on pictures like Good Will Hunting, Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World, and Cinderella Man."

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    My post had a link referencing the Waxman story, but we know this, the NY Mag story, as well as the idea that it was common knowledge can be disregarded, because the NYT is the, if not infallible, at least ever-even-handed newspaper of record for the left.

Apparently, big-time star Jessica Chastain has also come out on Twitter and admitted to what everyone already knows: that Weinstein's serial sexual harassment of a galaxy of females was an open secret in Hollywood and New York. Her rationale for not saying something about it long ago? It was "the victim's story to tell," not hers.I call that some serious rationalizing right there. ;-)

Eh, I'm sure the fact that she wanted to remain on the mogul's contacts list, in case he had a juicy, well-paying starring role for her, didn't enter into her thinking at all, right?

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Apparently another story was in the works for some time

http://www.msn.com/...r-AAtgoOX?li=BBnb7Kz

Between this and Cosby it is almost as if powerful men in Hollywood have long taken advantage of young actresses and no one would call them on it out of fear of retaliation.

If only they had the good sense to never be alone with a woman they wouldn't be subject to these made up allegations.

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What part of this is supposed to be in pink, my friend? ;-)

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"Politics is just show business for ugly people."

Turns out he only raped 3 so thats ok............

Again, whatever you think should be in pink is entirely at the readers discretion

I don't do pink font. Only shirts. But all of it other than the story.

Any thought that this was just a couple people with an axe to grind is long gone. More and more name actresses are coming out.

You wish stories like this would be rare instances. But much like doping in cycling, I think they may well be the rule rather than the exception in these kind of situations.

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I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.

Cue the Claude Reins memes, Hillary "shocked and appalled"....

https://www.usatoday.com/...-scandals/745419001/

NY Post Editorial entitled, "No one knew about Harvey, Give me a break."

It has this funny, but sad, note:

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Newsflash! Hollywood exec takes sexual advantage of young starlets!

Also, dog bites man!

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Thats a pretty obvious joke about the culture of hollywood, i wouldnt be so sure that is was a reference to anything known about him by tina fey.

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who's smarter than you're? i'm!

Not sure about that. The joke is in fact good comedy because it relates to reality. The line is useless if the name is something other than a known person.

You didnt disagree with anything i said.

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who's smarter than you're? i'm!

I didn't agree with your use of double negatives.

Definitely the rule rather than the exception. But people will do almost anything for the promise of fortune and fame, sad to say.

Hollywood's been a cesspit of this stuff going back to the silent movie era. Many of the original studio moguls, such as Jack Warner, were by most accounts, not nice men.

Former child and teen A-list actor Corey Feldman has implied several times that both he and his fellow Corey (Haim) were ill-used and passed around by various studio execs back in the day. There have also been plenty of stories of young child actors treated so. And the Tinseltown casting couch phenomenon is a real thing, judging by all the revelations that have been published in the past and the present.

Sometimes, it makes one wonder why we'd enable that culture by paying to see their product. Does that make all of us complicit in their unethical, and possibly criminal, behavior?

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Cool, let me know where i used them

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who's smarter than you're? i'm!

It's funny. I often read Hollywood articles that paint a picture of all these things happening in "Hollywood's sorid past", but the implication is that's all different now. Part of Hollywood's politcal appeal is how much more evolved they are than the rest of us.

Anyway, the net result of these all-too-human stories is that -- even though it's not related -- I always come away much more fearful of all the power we've given the gov't.

Trusting Hollywood -- and the entertainment business in general -- to police itself is like trusting the government to police itself.

I guess this guy has more women running around packing non-disclosure agreements, after he settled with them, than the Dallas Cowboys have haters. ;-)

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Another one...

http://www.businessinsider.com/...od-executive-2017-10

That's one ugly chick, though!

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Ok now, get of your high horse. Cesspits can be found wherever you find people with power. And people without power for that matter.

Or am I missing something? Has there ever been a human institution that did not have a cesspit component?

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Yoseff, what is a "checkshit?"

Fixed it now?

So because of an avalanche of allegations, are you convinced that he did ALL of the things that he recently has been accused of doing?

I am listening!

Have you listened to the tape? If not, do that and come back.

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I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.

Lets see;

It turns out that childrens entertainers were a hiding place in plain sight for paedophiles

It turns out that coaches in;

Premier league clubs

UsA swimming and gymnastics - i am sure it was far more international as one of my swim coaches as a child was done for an unhealthy interest in kids

Were hiding places for paedophiles

It turns out that men in powerful positions; tv execs, presenters and producers absue their positions of power over the powerless; women and children

The interesting one so far is brad pitts supposed response to paltrows experience

Weinsteins wife has finally left him. Day late and dollar short

Ummmmmm... the Lavender Room? ;-)

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Not Camacho! Say it ain't so, Harv! ;-)

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Yeah, Mr. Fight Club would no doubt have knocked Weinstein on his fat a$$. He was just as powerful as the Miramax/Weinstein Company head at the time, is my guess, and so the bully backed down.

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Following the PR crisis management playbook to the letter, Pervy McPervyson is now headed off to sex addiction rehab. ;-)

Harvey Weinstein Flying to Europe Tonight for Sex Addiction Rehab | TMZ.com

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And hires lawyer specifically to discredit accusers.

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She's a well-known attack dog. ;-)

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If his accusers are all lying, why does he need rehab?

Gorilla Pundit will not be silenced. ;-)



"Harvey Weinstein used to come here regularly. Promised some animals he would make them big stars, like the MGM lion or Tony the Tiger. No, I'm not going to go into details, but now we've got a couple of orangutans in counseling, a pretty young wildebeest who's gone all emo and a manatee with an eating disorder. And the potted plants in the front office all have PTSD."

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;-) ;-) ;-)

"The fact that Harvey Weinstein has to go all the way to Europe for sex addiction therapy is just another example of how ObamaCare has failed."

-- Sean Spicier

Sean Spicier on Twitter: "The fact that Harvey Weinstein has to go all the way to Europe for sex addiction therapy is just another example of how ObamaCare has failed"

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There are names like Paltrow, Jolie, Sorvino on the list. Those are all names that have well established family they could rely on. What was he doing to people with no one to got to?

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https://www.theguardian.com/...larie-burton-in-2003

This is awessone

Mcgowan tells him to fuck off when he claims he is outraged but knew for years

Turns out he is at it

McGowan knew for years, too. Kept quiet for the money.

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Yeah, she's been on a tear the last few days. I think she's decided to try to burn the entire edifice down and she's taking no prisoners doing so.

I think she realizes that what remains of her career will be toast anyway if she doesn't win this fight, so it's go big or go home time for her. Another way of looking at it is to consider what Ralph Waldo Emerson said: "If you shoot at a king you must kill him."

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That's not fair! Ben didn't get any money.
Well, I guess McGowan never came to Weinstein's defense either.

If you've ever witnessed a bonafide twitchhunt -- before slowman gets a hold of them -- then you'd know what "burn the entire edifice down" really meant. IMO, what McGowan's done so far is just seek to set the record straight (AFAIK).

Actually, if they want a real root and branch investigation they should hit up lets run. The editorial board their provides a little more latitude..........nothing wrong with the policies here though.........

If someone asked you what they should do. They are being sexually harassed at work by a very powerful person. But they have a settlement offer and will move them, and they can have some semblance of a career. What do you tell them? Speaking out means you are blackballed, from that company and probably most others.

She got a settlement without going through a trial. There was a confidentiality agreement that may have damages associated beyond the settlement amount. He is also one of the most powerful people in Hollywood.

It is hard to expect someone to give up their career and their money to fight the righteous fight that they will most likely lose.

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I think McGowan (as did many of the women Tentacles grabbed) settled privately and had to sign rigid non-disclosure agreements requiring their silence. If she agreed to an NDA with Weistein it'll probably be the case that Harv's attack dog lawyers are going to haul her into court over any violations of it, as a message to any of the other NDA Queens that they should maybe think twice before they decide to spill the beans.

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It is hard to expect someone to give up their career and their money to fight the righteous fight that they will most likely lose.

Maybe. If so, you'd think she'd be a little more understanding of Affleck's position, no?

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Most NDAs have exclusions for information that becomes public knowledge through no fault of the party on which the duty of confidentiality falls. Further, if they do haul them into court, there are also typically exclusions for having to disclose under by order of the court. So, now that the knowledge is out in the open, not sure it would do them much good to go after people who were mentioned in the expose.

Except it turns out ben was also a groper

"Harvey Weinstein is hiring a new lawyer who plans to discredit the women who have spoken out about the sexual harassment and assault they allegedly faced at the hands of the famed producer"
To all the folks earlier in this post who asked why women didn't come forward earlier, it's because they didn't want their lives and careers permanently destroyed by a lawyer like Glaser who specializes in smearing accusers. As someone else stated, it is usually the lesser evil to take a payout and stay quiet to avoid someone going thermonuclear on your reputation and ability to have a career.

That's a whole different kettle of fish.

Here's my take: I don't have too much of a problem with someone who keeps quiet because of a settlement, or because speaking up would harm their career. But it's also not exactly a brave stand. And if that's the route someone chooses, that person has no business being outraged at other people who also didn't say anything.

Arguably, defending Weinstein is different than keeping silent. (I don't know if Affleck defended him or not, I just haven't followed the case that closely.) On the other hand, McGowan had first hand knowledge of Weinstein's actions, and Affleck (I assume) did not. Ultimately, they both enabled Weinstein to keep assaulting women. She owns that.

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Worked for Hillary and Bill

Indeed. Curious, though, you neglected to mention the current occupant of the WH who has faced numerous allegations of identical nature as well? Hmmm....

Man, looking at her Twitter timeline gives you an indication of why Twitter needs a re-think. Extremely hard to follow what she is saying and who she is responding to.

As always: "The writer is in need of an editor." And she's no writer, on top of things. ;-)

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Aaaaand... she may not have to worry overly much about her Twitter writing skills. Given the social media giant temporarily suspended her account yesterday for violating Twitter rules.

Rose McGowan on Instagram: “TWITTER HAS SUSPENDED ME. THERE ARE POWERFUL FORCES AT WORK. BE MY VOICE. #ROSEARMY” • Instagram

Looks like the 12-hour suspension was a warning shot by the site's all-seeing, all-knowing...algorithmic anti-abuse tool. ;-)

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https://www.steynonline.com/...ns-and-condescension

Judy Dench, "I walked in and I saw Harvey, I dropped my pants and showed him my, "I love HW tattoo on my bum"". Meryl Streep, "If everyone knew I am sure all the Hollywood investigative reporters and hard news people would have reported it" Sure Meryl ....

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They constantly try to escape from the darkness outside and within
Dreaming of systems so perfect that no one will need to be good T.S. Eliot

Pretty much everyone is saying Streep's mealy mouthing over the episode illustrates how full of merde she is.

And Kate ("Titanic," "Sense and Sensibility," etc.) Winslet's statement on Weinstein is ironic, considering she eagerly chose to work with Roman Polanski on his Carnage film (the director's also been wildly applauded by Streep).

The child rapist hasn't been able to come to the US in decades, for fear of being immediately arrested over the crime, to which he pleaded guilty but fled the country before full imposition of his sentence.

Winslet herself is next starring in a film for Woody Allen, whose own indiscretions with his stepdaughter -- the adopted child of actress Mia Farrow, who at the time was Allen's wife -- are well-known. She's on record defending both of the men, as well.

Eh, the love of filthy lucre, fame and recognition knows no bounds, it seems.

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Steyn is spot on, as always.

Most of these Hollywood types love to virtue signal and hold the rest of us to moral standards and behavioral requirements that almost none of them are willing to come close to observing in their own lives. They're the ultimate scolds, yelling at us to do as they say but not do as they do, it seems.

Why anyone would take seriously a single thing any of them has to say is beyond me.

At this point, I'm more inclined to hold them all in the same esteem in which they were held in Elizabethan, England: As entertaining bands of wastrels and ne'er do wells who could turn a phrase and act boldly on the stage, but in which none were entrusted with anything remotely to do with public governance or the setting of public morals. ;-)

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Anything to get the part. Eh, Dame Judy? ;-)

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"Politics is just show business for ugly people."

Rose McGowan's twitter account has been suspended. They say that she broke one of the twitter rules.

I love Meryl Streep...listen, I'm a fan of movies but have never been to Hollywood and live on the East Coast, and even I had heard rumor of these allegations against Weinstein, you read enough about movies and watch award shows and some things trickle out. Complete and utter bullshit that a Hollywood queen of fifty years like Streep didn't know exactly what Weinstein was up to.

The 'elite' in Hollywood are a bunch of hypocritical gasbags.

There are a fair number of conservatives who preach one thing (pro life) in public and another (mistress get an abortion) in private

I am not sure they should be trusted anymore than actors

Why are they any different than sports stars, politicians, etc? All of them are humans. Fallible. It's the American/world public that give them this unreasonable power. It's the reason we have a reality star for a president. We entrust them them with entirely too much influence. For what reason?

All humans are fallible and none are perfect. Some may have perfect intentions, of course. But the virtue signaling out of Hollywood -- with a cavalcade of stars telling us how we should think and act, all while behaving in exactly the opposite manner themselves -- is what irks many.

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What like christian pro life conservatives with secret boyfriends or who get mistresses to have abortions

That kind of virtue signalling?

That, too.

What, you think I'd jump to the defense of any of that? And have you seen me playing any of the partisan politics stuff since my return from exile? ;-)

Why don't we just agree that the hypocrisy -- on BOTH sides -- is quite acute?

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Apparently I'm behind on pop culture. I've never felt Hollywood is trying to tell me what to do and think. They certainly lean left and do stupid things to prove that. I tend to look at it for what it is, them trying to be relevant with their intended purpose, entertainment. Does that mean their subliminal messages already have me in their grasp?!

Fallible: A cute new word to excuse and or describe a sexual harassing rapist.
It is NOT a "mistake" when you go out of your way to sexually harasses or rape a woman.

Another fake social justice liberal warrior.

Does that mean yer Dear Leader buddy is fallible too?

Nice cherry pic!! Lebron, is that you? Please tell me you really didn't think that word was being used to describe this disgusting excuse for a man. Context. It has a purpose.

What "dear leader" is that, sir? You mean the Orange-Haired Wonder? Felonia Von Pantsuit? I voted Johnson/Weld in 2016, so-called "binary choice" be damned. ;-)

So show me on any thread here since I've been back where I've advocated for any specific politician's polices or positions.

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"Politics is just show business for ugly people."

Fallibility exists within every human. Such fallibility can lead men and women to commit grievous harm to others, as Weinstein so obviously has done. Whether that emanates from what legal scholars would call "mens rea" ("bad mind," or "depraved mind") or not is also a question for such experts. Or maybe what he did arose from megalomania? It's something to consider.

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Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb

but Trump . . .

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