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2017 Kona Survival Guide
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Kona Survival Guide 2017 Version

We're getting to that time of the year again. T minus 48 days and counting until the big dance in Kona, Hawaii as of August 27, 2016.

If this is your first time through the Ironman World Championship, welcome to the big show; you'll have a great time. If you're a repeat offender, congratulations on successfully managing your OCD! ;)

My perspective is that of an age grouper triathlete, a former competitor in the race, and a long time resident of Kailua town. My opinions are just mine and nothing else. I will try to keep an eye on the thread and answer the questions that you may have. I've made numerous changes to the guide as nothing ever stays the same. We're down one bike shop, the road is torn up in spots and we have water restrictions in place … all just in time for the 2017 Ironman World Championship on October14!

As always this is a collaborative effort. If you have comments about the posts or suggestions for those who haven't been here before, post away. I'll be glad to answer what I can and others will be able to chime in with different perspectives.

TL;DR

If you're an old pro at this race here's what you might want to know (in no particular order):

1. There are water restrictions in town. 5 of 13 wells are inoperative and will be until well after the race. Water use is limited to cooking, cleaning and hygiene. If you think the landscaping is getting crispy, you'd be right.
2. There is road construction on the Queen K. North bound traffic will transition to Makai side lanes prior to Kohana Iki and back to mauka lanes near the airport. This will likely result in run course changes for the race.
3. Lava Java has moved. It's just a couple of building further south. New and larger digs.
4. Cycle Station closed its doors earlier this year. If you need a bike shop your choices are VeloFix Hawaii (mobile bike shop) or one of the two Bike Works locations (brick and mortar).

A few Bits of Trivia

The town name is actually Kailua not Kona. This is why you'll often here long time locals call it Kailua Town or Kailua Village. The Post office name for this area is Kailua Kona. Every island has a Kailua and every island has a Waimea. The post office can only have one of those per state though. Kailua means two waters or two currents in Hawaiian. Waimea up north of Kailua town is called Kamuela by the Postal Service (Kamuela is Samuel in Hawaiian, after a prominent local when the post office named it). Waimea means reddish water. Kona refers to the Ahpua'a in this area. Those were pie shaped land divisions in old Hawaii. Oh and the island name is Hawaii not “the big island” (my own personal pet peeve :P). Dig Me Beach has an actual name, it's neither Dig Me Beach nor Kamakahonu (that's on the other side of the pier btw), the beach real name is Kaiakeakua beach. That's “Sea of the Gods” in Hawaiian. Mauka? Makai? Mauka means mountain side and Makai means ocean side. We use that a lot in describing things and you'll see it throughout this post.

Rat Lungworm

If you're a returning veteran of the 2016 race and are all prepped for the Dengue Fever scare, sorry we have an all new one! Rat Lungworm disease. This is a South-east Asian disease that came to Hawaii a few years ago. It's a nasty little disease that affects end hosts (us) and is a bit gruesome to describe even on Slowtwitch forums. Fortunately it's extremely rare. Basically it affects people who ingested “infected” raw produce only. The actual rat lungworm slug is not the problem, it's the eggs laid on produce which cause problems. These eggs are small, the size of the periods in these sentences. A normal soaking of produce isn't sufficient. Each piece of lettuce and produce must be washed under a stream of water quite thoroughly. While the problems affects only an extremely small portion of state of Hawaii raw produce and odds are drastically against ingesting these things, it's best to be forewarned. Or buy bagged lettuce in the grocery stores. ;)

http://www.honolulumagazine.com/...ore-You-Eat-a-Salad/

Water Restrictions

The area from Keauhou to north of the airport and from the ocean to above the upper Highway is under emergency water restrictions. Five of the thirteen wells providing fresh water to the area are out of service and normal water usage won't return until January 2018. Water use is limited to hygiene, cooking and cleaning only. This will result in some landscaping areas being rather crispy and probably some pools being less than full. Don't be surprised when you're not give a glass of water in the local restaurants and pay attention during the athlete briefing to any possible changes to showers in T1. If you're in a hotel room expect the hotels to ask for cooperation. If you're from California, you might market yourself as a water use specialist. ;)


Weather

October is peak temperature time in this part of Hawaii. Expect temperatures off the asphalt of the Queen K well into the 80's every day. Race day can be, and usually is, quite toasty. Riding and Running under a tropical sky on asphalt can be draining – the 2009 race featured record 120F/48.9C temperatures on the Queen K at 3pm measured well above the pavement. Hydrate accordingly during your practice sessions and on race day.

Race day is also in one of our rainy seasons. We've been known to have extreme heat and extreme heavy rain all in the same day, though that's unusual. October is still within hurricane season for Hawaii, and although Hawaii island is generally protected by two very large mountains, they are possible. Those are what drive the worst weather of the season even though they're well offshore.


Normal Water Temperatures

Peak water temperatures occur in late August through mid-September. The water is quite nice right now. On race day the average temperature should be 77 – 79 F/ 25 – 26 C. The race is never wetsuit legal. The water temperature near the pier can vary wildly. There are numerous cold spots due to rain water percolating down from the mountains and then up into the bay near the pier. If we've had rain, the water can get rather cool along the pier due to the fresh water springs (two waters, remember?). There is another set of cold spots about the time you're abeam Hulihee palace and the last set near the Kona Inn. These cold spots are a good way to know just how close you are to finishing the swim. When you feel the first ones, you're abeam the Kona Inn. The second set means you have about 1/6 mile to go and then you'll be at the pier for the last sprint to shore.

Practice Swims

After several years of absence the Kukio Blue water swim returned in 2016. There's a catch again this year though – you'll have to arrive extra early again this year if you want to do this classic swim. It's being held on September 23 this year. The race begins with check-in at the closed to the public Kukio development, then a short walk to Kua bay followed by the 1.2 mile/1931 m swim to the public beach at Kukio. Event details can be found at http://www.kukioevents.com. The race is currently sold out but a wait list is available. Or just go swim at Hapuna if you're determined to swim in the ocean on that day somewhere other than off the pier.

The Ironman sponsored training swim will be held 1 week prior to the race on October 7. This swim starts at the pier follows the Ironman swim course but finishes on the Kamakahonu Bay side of the pier. The event is $35 USD plus Active.com's fees. You must register in advance. Details can be found on the Ironman World Championship website under race week events or:

http://www.ironman.com/...m.aspx#axzz4qupV9Pg4

In addition, there are numerous locals swimming up to Ironman week and sometimes during Ironman week. Groups leave after first light (6:15 or so), around 7 am and again around 8 am. Most will be glad to have someone else tag along. These are all informal groups and have swimmers of various speeds, abilities and distances. Just ask if you're there.

Don't forget to swim out to the coffee barge during race week, it's a tradition and a must do part of doing the race! The Coffee Barge is at various locations fairly close to the pier and serves up very small cups of local coffee to the swimmers. Give the cups back to the staff when finished.

Course set-up

The swim course setup usually begins on the Thursday prior to the race and is finished Friday afternoon. The folks at Jack's Diving Locker have been setting up the course for nearly the entire time the race has been held here and do a fabulous job. Most years there have been a few extra swim buoys set up a few weeks prior to race day to help guide the athletes in town.

If the additional buoys do not get set up for any reason you have the following guides. The swim lane is to the left of the buoy line as you face the water from the beach. Do Not swim to the right of those buoys. Boats come and go there – you will get hurt. Beyond that if you keep sighting just to the right of the Royal Kona Hotel (the iconic ship like building south on the coast), you'll come abeam a flag pole near Hulihee Palace. The flag pole and back to the beach is approximately 1/3 mile. Continuing south while sighting just off the Royal Kona, the first swim buoy you'll come to is a round ½ mile/800 m swim buoy. It's approximately abeam the third “N” in the ocean facing “Kona Inn” painted on their roof. After that there's another round ¾ mile buoy (all these are out and back distances), then there's the 1500m pencil buoy followed by the King's Buoy (the 1.2 mile turn buoy) abeam the Royal Kona. From there sight on a spit of land to the far south and follow a straight line. The next buoy is the Ironman Turn.

If you're not fortunate enough to be able to swim in open water on a routine basis, please use the week leading up to the race to get familiar with the ocean and it's currents. There will be a current on race day. Sometimes pushing you south, sometimes pushing you north. If there is surf near the pier race morning, try not to pay much mind to it. The swim will smooth out beyond the pier.

The beach where the race starts is often called “Dig-Me beach.” It has a proper name though. Kaiakeakua Beach (Sea of the gods). Kamakahonu beach (Eye of the turtle) is on the other side of the pier.

Other Swim Locales

Hapuna Beach State Park, north of the resorts (30 miles or so from town) is one of the nicest beaches on the west side of the island. From the south end of the beach to the landing at the Hapuna Prince at the north end is approximately ½ mile/800 m. This is the where the swim and bike start for “Honu” aka Ironman 70.3 Hawaii is held every year. It's a protected bay and away from the hustle and bustle of Kailua town during Ironman week. It's also a popular swim and beach spot so get there early.

Aneahoomalu Bay, or “A-Bay” is the beach and bay behind the hotels at the Waikoloa Resorts. It's usually a bit murkier than Hapuna or the pier but is convenient if you're staying up there. This is also where the Lavaman Olympic length Triathlon occurs every spring.

Kona Aquatic Center. The county pool is located on Kuakini Highway. The pool is normal split into two sections both have 25 YARD lanes. It generally opens at 6:15 on weekdays, closes for lunch, and then closes at 7:15 pm. Weekend hours are 8:15 am to 4:45 pm with time off for lunch. This is a busy time of the year at the pool, you will have to share lanes. Cost is free (you're welcome). Go swim in the ocean, you're going to have to anyway. ;)

There is another 4 lane pool at “The Club.” This is a private fitness center and to gain access you'll have to pay for a multi or single day pass. Again it gets busy in there this time of the year. It's also a 25 yard pool.

Road Info (updates)

It's still road construction time on the Queen K! Highway construction was supposed to be completed well before this year's race. Shortly after last year's race it was discovered that the new highway design and construction had penetrated registered historic trails at at least two locations. A redesign was necessary and construction was halted for around 6 months. All that means that the roads are still not finished, they probably won't be done for the 2018 race (prove me wrong Hawaii DOT!) either. To compound matters part of the old Queen K was closed and northbound traffic was rerouted onto the new makai lanes earlier this week.

The new road shift has northbound traffic crossing over at Kohanaiki (Matsuyama's on the Queen K) onto the most mauka of the two new makai lanes. Traffic returns to the old lanes somewhere around the airport. This will affect the run course in particular and has the potential to impact the bike course. If you're a returning veteran please pay attention to the run and bike course briefings or watch the Ironman website for potential updates.

The choke points for bicycle rides during your training haven't changed much over the past few years. Most locals ride from the county pool or soccer fields up Makala (past where the Target store is and the Sports Authority shop was) and onto the Queen K. That little section there has been the among the worst areas for accidents. People aren't expecting cyclists (go figure) and some are rather resentful of the whole Ironman time of the year. Stay out of aero position until you're safely on the highway shoulders.

Heading North bound on the highway your first danger area is the turn to the refuse Transfer Station and Police station. Cars will be merging into the right turn lane and the bike lane is on the left side of that lane. Sit up. After that you have Kealakehe Pkwy (opposite the harbor) which is the turn to the local high school and Civic Center. From there you have a short ride to the turn by the Tesoro Station. There are two ways to handle this short set of streets; some folks go onto the shoulder after the harbor and then back to the left side where the Tesoro turn is. That's what the sign says you to should do as you pass Kealakehe. Others think more accidents happen crossing traffic and just stay on the left side of the right turn lane the whole way and let the cars that are impatient pass them off to the right. If you're in a group of riders do what the guy up front does. Don't split the group left and right as you'll end up tempting cars to go between you -- and they will.

If you're in a group, please be sensible and ride no more than two abreast (Hawaii law actually requires single file but that's another story), don't bunch up and creep out onto the highway -- you will get hurt.

After the airport you're fairly clear until the resorts. Some distances:

Pool - Veteran's Cemetery/Kua Bay-Pu'u Kuil'i (Bum Crack Hill for the Aussies): 12 miles each way.

Pool- Scenic Overlook (This is barely on the descent to the resorts): 18 miles each way.

Pool - Waikoloa Resorts: Just under 50 miles round trip depending on how far you go into the resorts.

Pool - Kawaihae: This is a bit under 80 miles round trip.

Returning south bound the major areas of conflict with traffic are the road to the Mauna Lani, the Road to the Waikoloa Resorts, Kua Bay and more importantly the south Entrance to Kekahakai St park (Makalawena). Cars aren't expecting you at that entrance, and it's a nice down hill where you'll likely be zipping along in aero. After that the Airport Rd is really bad as it has a protected acceleration lane for the south bound Queen K that you need to cross and cars will not look. Then the harbor. The area approaching the harbor is still under construction, the bike lane has been squeezed a bit at various times this year. Be careful in that area. Once you make the turn onto Makala from the south bound Queen K, you'll be in the shopping area; sit up and use it as a cool down. Please.

The Queen K bike lanes in town which we often called the “suicide lanes” are gone. They've been moved next to the curb where they belonged. Keep in mind that if you go that route you will still have to cross traffic turning right into a protected acceleration lane at Makala, Kaiwi, Palani and Henry Street. The lanes end at Henry. By the way, the sidewalk in the area between Makala and Henry St. is a multi-use path. You can always bicycle there.

There is a bike lane on Kukakini between Palani Road and Kaiwi (That's the 4 way stop sign). These lanes were carved out of the traffic lane width, there was no expansion of real estate. Keep it single file through there and try not to creep towards the edge.

If you're heading down to Ali`i Drive beware there's no shoulder on Ali'i until you're around the Royal Kona or so. Also watch for runners when you're on the shoulder of Ali`i Drive. Oh and just for reference I've been trying to get a speeding ticket on my bike heading into town (Northbound on Ali'i heading down the hill by the Royal Kona) for years with no success. If you get one let me know!

Finally, watch out for glass. There are a few locals who think it's funny to trash the shoulders prior to Ironman. The roads do get cleaned before everyone arrives and also for the race. But there will be glass and wire from shredded truck tires.

Running

Most of the runners in town have itband issues due to the shape of our roads. If we always face traffic the same leg is always high. For that reason and others, most of us run on the makai (ocean) side of the roads regardless of direction. Please be aware of it. Also the makai side has somewhat fewer vehicles entering the road not looking for pedestrians and cyclists than the mauka (mountain) side. While we do have wide shoulders on the Queen K, those on Alii Drive aren't quite as wide. I've seen people running 4 and 5 abreast along Ali`i Drive. The shoulders can fit 2 abreast. Please don't force your fellow runners out onto the road even if you're running facing traffic and they're not. Some of us will run right through you, your family and kids rather than get hit by a car.

Also, keep in mind that those that live and work here really don't care why you're in town. Most admire your dedication and ability, but frankly if you're running between cars stopped at a stop light, they don't care why you're doing that. You're slowing them down or they might not see you and then you get hit. You've worked far too hard to get here to have it end from a bit of impatience at waiting for the walk sign at a controlled intersection.

Soft running surfaces: usually that's the ball fields next to the county pool. Soccer and baseball. After that the local high school track is occasionally available but only well after school is out for the day and when there are no other activities.

Refueling During Training

If you're here early and planning on getting that last longish run and bike ride in you'll want to know where you can resupply for your run and bikes. For the swim: there's the coffee barge. ;)

The easiest is running. If you're focusing on Ali'i drive there are a lot of places in town if that's your turn around. ABC Stores (convenience stores), Kona Town Market (mini store) etc. As you head south towards Keauhou things thin out. There's a liquor/convenience store at Casa de Emdeco about 3 miles south. After that down near Lyman's surf spot there are a couple of places to get something, the Poke Shop and the convenience store on the mauka side. In Keauhou there's the shopping center. Running long on the highway? Plan ahead. Leaving town there's the harbor shops but that's a mile plus round trip detour. The Matsumaya's on the highway past the Costco turn plus the convenience store there at the new gas station.

Biking: Leaving town north, it's Matsuyama's. They're bike unfriendly there though. No bikes in the store. I've never had trouble leaving my bike out front but keep an eye on it. there's also the convenience store at the gas station there. After that it's the resorts. 24 miles or so. At the Waikoloa resorts there are the Queen's shops including a large semi convenience store. After that it's the Shops at the Mauna Lani including a small Foodland run grocery store. beyond that you pickings are slim. The gas station in Kawaihae is the only spot between the Mauna Lani and Hawi town for refueling. If you're desperate there are public parks and beaches that have running water (though not all do). I've dropped into Spencer's Beach in Kawaihae for example when I found myself dry and without $ (poor preflight check on my part). Up in Hawi town there are a lot of places. Many are bike friendly (enough). The grocery store is off the main drag, ride through town then turn right as if you're heading out of town towards Waimea. The store will be on the left side shortly afterwards.

BTW, gas stations are scare on the way to Hawi. In town or those on the way out of town. The resorts at Waikoloa. Waikoloa Village, Kawaihae.

Spectating the Race

Swim: Getting prime real estate for watching the swim means a very early start. If you want to see the cannon blast the absolute best spot for that is across from the fish tower that is on the pier. That means along the seawall on Alii Drive and the little beach near Hulihee Palace. If the Palace grounds are open to the public that's a good spot as well. Next is the Kona Inn grounds at that point the swimmers will be at the 1/4 mile mark and at just over 2 miles on the return. beyond that there's Daylight Mind's upper floor, though they often charge a premium for that. Or if you have loads of money to spend, there's always the WTC VIP passes. There's also Bubba Gump's which is often open for breakfast during the race. If you're staying at the Royal Kona, the seawall side gives you a view of the King's Buoy area it's at the 1/4 mark in the swim. The swimmers are half way to the turn around when they're abeam the hotel and halfway back to the shore on the return.

Bike:

1. The "hot corner". Palani Road and Kuakini you'll see the cyclists 4 times; exiting T1, returning from the highway on the in town loop descending Palani Rd, returning from the in town turn around and heading up Palani for the long ride and on the way in to T2 from Kuakini.

2. If you know what they look like on the bike another spot you might see them is at the "Costco" aid station. This is Hina Lani Rd. To get there from Keauhou and in town, head north on the Queen K to Henry Street, turn right on Henry, stay on that (the mid level road) until it ends, Make a left turn and head down that as far as you can. Park and walk the rest of the way.

3. Hawi Turn around. this is above and beyond as it requires a lot of driving. You need to get on the upper highway, the Mamalahoa Highway (Go up Henry St to the stoplight past Safeway and turn right). Follow the Mamalahoa (State Route 190 btw) all the way to Waimea (1 hour or more). Make a left turn at the end followed shortly by a right turn onto Kohala Mountain Rd (State Route 250). Follow that to Hawi. Make a left, find a place to park and walk to the bike turn around. This will take many hours.

4. Shorter version of the above. Go see the racers near the resorts. Follow the direction as above, except after you pass the Daniel K. Inoyue Highway (new saddle road) you'll come to Waikoloa Village road. Turn left. Follow that as far as you can. Park well clear of the road and carefully walk to the Queen K. The riders will be flying at this point on the way outbound.

5. In town Turn Around. The turn around is on Kuakini. To get there from in town: make your way to the Queen K. Headed south from town continue down to the Kuakini turn. Turn right and follow that towards the road block. Park and walk. From Keauhou, head north on the Queen K and make a left.

Run:

In town works well anywhere along Ali'i drive. The Old Hot corner (Hualalai and Alii) is a good spot as the runners pass there 3 times (Outbound from T2, outbound to the highway at mile 10 or so, and inbound to the finish) . You can also get to the Alii Drive turn around by heading to Keahou and getting onto Alii near the Keauhou shopping center. Follow that just away (1 mile or so). Find a place to park and walk to the barrier. Also you can get to the Energy Lab if you're ambitious. Upper Highway again except come down Kaiminani as if you're headed to the airport. Find a place to park and walk a mile or so south (seriously, it's not easy).

Some Running Distances

Pier to “Outrigger” Keauhou Crosswalk (just past the Ali`i Drive run turn around): 5 miles (The Outrigger hotel has been closed for a couple of years but the building is still there).
Pier to the harbor entrance to (via Makala): Just under 3 miles
Pier to the Airport: 7 miles
Pier to the Energy Lab: 6 miles.

Miscellaneous Stuff

The climb to Hawi. This starts at Mahukona and finishes just before you enter Hawi town. Yes, you descend to the bike turn around and climb out of Hawi. The Hawi climb from Mahukona is not an incredibly steep climb, but it is long. 7 miles of non-stop climbing at around mile 60 on the ride. It's steep enough and long enough that the few spots where the slope decreases a bit feel flat. They're not. By way of comparison, both Richter Pass at Penticton and Cougar Gulch in Coeur d'Alene are steeper.

This is also where most riders get their full realization of the wind for the first time. You've been riding in it for quite a few miles but usually as a cross wind (this is why disc wheels are not allowed). Now it's a full on headwind for 7 miles. Payback time: The rocket sled back to MahuKona. Enjoy it. I hit 51 mph/82 kph there during the 2014 race.

My personal hell section of the bike course is the climb from Kawaihae to Kawaihae Junction. It's hot, there's never a breath of wind, it's steep and you can see Bum Crack hill (Pu'u Kuil'i) in the far distance knowing you have to bike past that point. Fortunately it's also fairly short. (1 mile). Personally I'd rather climb the 7 miles to Hawi than do this climb.

The last climbs: The climb from the resorts to scenic overlook is the last long climb of the race. When you pass the overlook you have about 20 miles to T2. The last climb that matters is the climb from Kukio to Kua Bay/Veteran's cemetery (mile 99). It's steep but only a mile long. When you hit the top you are at mile 100 on the bike ride.

The Energy Lab: Signs will likely be up prohibiting bikes from being in there by the time you arrive. If they're not, don't ride in there anyway. There is no shoulder, cars drive very fast and there is a lot of traffic from the businesses and charter school. People have been hit and seriously hurt riding bikes along that road.

If this is your first trip to the world championship you owe it to yourself to go visit the energy lab. Drive to the bottom and take a look back up to the highway. The road isn't quite as steep as it looks. It's an optical illusion caused by the slope of the hills on the mauka (mountain) side of the highway that makes you think it's god awful steep. The illusion is strongest at night. It's far from flat though.

When you exit the Energy lab on the run you have exactly 11K to the finish.

Chicken Soup: If you're a MOP or later runner, the high sodium lukewarm chicken soup is found at every run aid station out on the highway beginning in the late afternoon. It can be a godsend if you're behind on your electrolytes. You can thank the aide station director for keeping all this stuff straight. :)

After dark Finishers: If you think you might be an after dark finisher (is there any other type?). The course can be a bit confusing to people at the 139 mile point. Once you turn at the hot corner from Palani Rd onto Kukaini it's one mile to the finish line. Turn right at Hualalai Rd. That's in front of the Union 76 gas station. The course is marked but often we have tunnel vision. From there follow it to the end and make the right turn onto Alii Drive. You're 800 meters from the finish now.

Those last 800 meters always made the rest of the pain worth it for me. Enjoy every step of it.


Race day

Body marking is done behind the King Kam hotel. Signs will direct you. You'll also have a couple of places to drop off your special needs bags. From there it's off to your bike and the wait.

The owners of Unision, Ron and Capi, open their shop up very early race morning (by 5 am). If you find yourself sans goggles or anything else you have to have, Ron will likely have it. If you're short on cash, because you're in race gear, leave your name and race number with Ron and pay him back later. Ron is also a 4 time IMWC finisher. They're located in the Banyan shops very near the pier.

The road isn't truly closed during the race. If you're MOP or later don't be shocked to see a bus near you. They're shuttling volunteers. There is also limited road traffic early during the bike race as some areas are land locked from the race, these are usually workers at Kukhio and they should steer clear of the cyclists. Oh and watch out for the camera crews, we all know they don't always miss the cyclists! Also if you're in the back 1/3 of the cyclists (been there, done that), the police will start forcing cyclists over to the shoulder around Waikoloa Road until Waikoloa Beach Road (the resorts). You're supposed to be able to use the highway but it happens every year. They will also let traffic head southbound onto the highway from the resorts as well. Again be careful as the drivers south of the resorts will be speeding well in excess of 70 because the highway is "empty."

Keep in mind that the staggered swim wave starts means your cutoff time is not midnight.


Bike Shops

There is only a single brick and mortar bike shop in town this year: Bike Works. Cycle Station closed after the Lavaman Triathlon in April. Bike Works carries Cervelo and Specialized but will work on anything with two wheels – well maybe not Penny-Farthings (and if you're riding that at the race you will be in the highlights!). If you're staying out near the Waikoloa Resorts you might want to check in with Bike Works Beach and Sport, they're located in the Queen's Shops.

Your other alternative bike shop is VeloFix Hawaii. Velofix will come to you in his big red van. It's the mobile bike shop.

Bike Works: 808-326-2453

Bike Works Beach & Sport: 808-886-5000

Velofix Hawaii: 808-785-5159 or http://www.velofix.com/locations/kona/

Both Bike Works and Velofix have rental bike fleets if you're in need or have a family member that wants to ride while here. Tri, road and mountain bikes.

Btw, if you're friends with Oliver of Cycle Station, he is alive and well and simply decided to focus his energy on his other businesses. If you want to know where he can be found (during the work day in Kona) drop me a pm.

Bike Shipping

If you're not using the airlines to ship your bike to Kona for the race, or don't want to, you do have alternatives now. In addition to the usual bike shipping companies and Ironman partners you can also use VeloFix's V.I.B. Kona Service.

If you sign up for VIB Kona service, Velofix will pick up and box your bike and then ship it off to your Kona destination via Bikeflights.com. On the Kona end Velofix Hawaii will unpack the bike and get it race ready for you and the big dance. After the race, the process is reversed. Easy bike travel. If you're interested, make inquiries or book online with Velofix or email concierge@velofix.com for more information


The Rudy Project Store

If you were a fan of browsing the only Rudy Project retail store in the world and chatting with local artist, avid cyclist and Team Mango Races Head Honcho Carl Kooma, sorry you're out of luck. Apparently The Rudy Project decided that one retail shop was one too many and closed it last year. If you enjoyed Carl Kooma's art work and conversation, you'll still find him in town from time to time and perhaps even at the Rudy Project booth.

A.R.T. Practitioners

If you're looking for an A.R.T. Chiropractor (Active Release Technique) while in town for the race there are at least two that i know of. All deal with athletes of various abilities (from beginner to ultra elite pro's) on a regular basis. While they can do your standard adjustments if you're inclined, that is not the focus of their work. ART deals with soft tissue rather than the skeletal structure. Many find it valuable to help get things firing again.

Makai Chiropractic is in old industrial on the same road as Bike Works. They're the building closest to Palani rd if that makes sense visually. They have two ART chiropractors. 808-329-7900.

Odin Wilmott. Odin was ART trained though he no longer maintains his affiliation with ART. He will also come to you, bringing everything he needs for your session. 808-443-4097.


Grocery stores

KTA: Is a local chain. They have locations on Palani Rd and in the Keauhou Shopping center. They carry grass fed beef (labeled as such) and have the better selection of local produce.
Safeway: On Henry Street. The also carry grass fed beef, it's labeled that way. They also are one of the stores in the state that carry the Paniolo brand beef. That is grass fed Parker Ranch beef.
Sac-N-Save: In the shopping center with Longs.
Island Naturals: In old industrial on Kaiwi. It's the only Natural Food store in the town.
Kona Town Market: This a new shop near the downtown area. It's on lower Walua Rd up near Kuakini Highway in town. If you're familiar with the Royal Kona resort, the road which heads mauka on the diagonal off Alii Drive near there is lower Walua Rd. They have a good selection of healthy items in stock and not too far of a walk if you're near that end of town. 75-5909 Walua Rd.

Coffee Shops Near Pier

Menehune right by the pier in the King Kam. They will be open for 24 hours on race day.
Kona Coffee and Tea. On Palani in the old Starbucks. Bike Friendly.
Starbucks: Two locations. One is a drive through the other might as well be. Henry and Kuakini and the other on Henry St across from Safeway. There's also a Starbucks in the Queen's Shops at the Waikoloa resorts. There's also a Starbuck's inside Safeway.
San Francisco Coffee Company: On Ali'i Drive. Yes, they have loads of Kona coffee
Lava Java: Enough said. It's the stop during Ironman. It will be busy. Oh and don't panic if you go to their old location and don't see them, they moved three buildings south of there to larger and better quarters. They'll still be busy though.
Hugo's on the Rocks: on the ocean side of Alii across from the Coconut Grove Marketplace.
Kopelani: On Ali`i Drive across from Hulihee Palace.


Restaurants

There are a lot of restaurants in town. Some are even good. The best restaurant though is someone's house. :P

Lava Java: If you're a returning veteran do not panic, they did not close. They just moved three buildings south on Ali`i Drive into larger quarters. They're now in a two story open air spot with even better views. For some this the iconic stop for the race. Down in the Coconut Grove Marketplace across from the water.
Kona Inn: Full service restaurant and bar. Seafood, beef and everything in between. Their Thai lemongrass soup is no longer served though.
Krua: Good thai food up on Kuakini by Henry Street.
Jackie Rey's: Down Kuakini towards the in town bike turn around. More locals there but you will need a reservation.
Haluakoa Inn: Nice food up in Holualoa.
Volcano House: In Volcano National park.
Kilauea Lodge: Volcano Village near Kilauea.

Fun things

Intro scuba dive. Jack's Diving Locker, Kona Honu, Big Island Divers. Too many to mention them all. No traveling to altitude (above 2000 ft) after diving though.

If you're a diver and want to see the majestic manta's, a night manta dive or snorkel is a great way to see these amazing creatures. I've only done the night dive with Jack's so I can't comment on anyone else.

Kona Coffee farm tours: Greenwell farms in south Kona runs a great tour and has free (brewed) samples. Royal Kona much further south often has tours that can be fun when they're drying or processing coffee cherry. The Kona Coffee Living History Farm is a working 1940's coffee farm down near the Greenwell Farm, call ahead for hours.


Hawi Town: It's not just the bike turnaround. It's been discovered though so it's a lot more touristy than it used to be.

Volcano National Park (Kilauea). Lava is still flowing into the sea and there are several breakouts visible. There is over land access. Just be careful and carry water and don't wear flip flops for walking there. There is a lava-boat-tour that leaves from Hilo several times a day for viewing the entry. I've only seen pictures: http://www.seelava.com/...ours/lava-boat-tour/

As for the IMWC 2017, it will be windy, it will be hot. You will be miserable. You will have fun and it's something you'll never forget – whether or not Mike says the magic words for you. Be safe while you're here both before and during the race, race hard and above all have fun.

Aloha.

Edit (8/31): Added Spectating and refueling info.


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Bagged lettuce, check
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Thanks so much! This is very helpful and informative.
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Bagged lettuce, check

That's going a bit beyond in avoiding the illness but it's a rather nasty illness with no treatment and no cure, it has to run its course. It's almost exclusive to local (that is in-state not necessarily Big island) organic lettuce and produce. I just find it a pain to wash the stuff the way they say to wash it ... hence bagged lettuce. Others think I'm a bit nuts, they're likely not entirely wrong.

On a brighter note, Target has a small grocery area with a few mainland produce selections and Costco. I never put Costco on the list because I just forget. But they have good and less expensive selections. A lot of Costco's lettuce is from Maui though and that's where this all started.

Can't wait to see what happens for 2018. ;)

Seriously the most relevant stuff for athletes is the minor course changes due to the road work on the Queen K and the water restriction coupled with the influx of people into town in a few weeks.


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Thanks so much! This is very helpful and informative.

You're quite welcome. I started this to try and provide a bit of info that the folks at WTC can't and to try and warn bike riders about the various choke points on the Queen K that all the locals know about. I always leave something out that ought to be in there. As we move closer to race day, someone will figure out what it is this year that should be in there.


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So are you advising against any produce from the farmers market as well as the quaint little stands in front of driveways as you get out of town. We love grabbing fruit, especially lychee nuts and star fruit from these as we eat our way around the island
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I'm never going to make it to Kona, probably not even as a tourist. Having said that, I kinda like reading this every year. Great job, as always!
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So are you advising against any produce from the farmers market as well as the quaint little stands in front of driveways as you get out of town. We love grabbing fruit, especially lychee nuts and star fruit from these as we eat our way around the island


No. I still buy produce at the Waimea Farmer's Market. Lettuce is the largest problem. Just turn the water on full blast and blast each side of each leaf thoroughly. While star fruit and lychee could be affected as well, just wash them thoroughly. I debated myself for quite awhile about whether to include this information at all. Just chatting about it makes it sound like the disease is running rampant. It's not, it's quite rare in fact. But it is a risk.


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I'm never going to make it to Kona, probably not even as a tourist. Having said that, I kinda like reading this every year. Great job, as always!

It's a great place to visit. You should consider going one year for the race - just to hang out and take it all in. Or just go to Kailua for a vacation. By Hawaiian standards, if you shop around for accommodation, and wait to get a good priced flight, it's not that expensive to go to.

People go on and on about airfares and how expensive they are. When I first went to IMH to race in 1989, I think I paid about $900 (CAN$) - that seemed to me like a small fortune at the time. I was much younger and not making much money. I just booked our flights to go this year (for work), and I'm are paying about $1000 (CAN$).

What other item/commodity has stayed nearly the same price for 30 years!!. Those flights to Kona seem like a deal!


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I just got back from a quick bike ride on the new part of the Queen K. Please be careful out there when you're on your training rides. The new bike lane between the airport and Kohanaiki is raised above the surface of the highway by about 3 - 4 inches (76 -101 mm). Plus there are a few drains here and there that act as speed bumps. This won't be a factor on race day as you're not riding in the bike lane, but before race day you may be. This only affects about 3 miles of the highway at the present time.


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Big thanks! You earn major good karma points for your write up.
Just KQ'd at CDA. Gotta get me a new set of legs. Can barely make it up a flight of stairs today.
Yikes!

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I just got back from a quick bike ride on the new part of the Queen K. Please be careful out there when you're on your training rides. The new bike lane between the airport and Kohanaiki is raised above the surface of the highway by about 3 - 4 inches (76 -101 mm). Plus there are a few drains here and there that act as speed bumps. This won't be a factor on race day as you're not riding in the bike lane, but before race day you may be. This only affects about 3 miles of the highway at the present time.


Thank you KonaCoffee.

It's always been heads-up riding while out training on the Queen-K until out by the airport - this construction makes it even more so.

For those first-timers - the Queen K Highway is a VERY busy road. In fact, the noise of traffic from the high volume of traffic, is very high, pretty much all the way along until you get to the left turn off for Kawihae. The noise is so high that when you are out there on Race-Day - both riding and running, it's eerily quiet! ( there are no vehicles other than race vehicles!!)

As KC talks about in the Survival Guide, the shoulder and the "Bike Lane" is wide and generous - but just know that there is a high volume of traffic often moving along at close to 100km/h right beside you!!

Closer into town, from the Airport in, it can become quite congested, and slow to stop-and-go for vehicular traffic depending on volume and stop light sequencing - and I am guessing the construction will make all this worse. Again, caution is required at all times when training on this section when riding. Most of the bike crashes, incidents with cars and other altercations, when training before the race occur along the stretch from the Airport on in to Town.

. . and of course there are a whole bunch of other really nice areas to ride! :)


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Awesome thanks for putting this together again. Its great having the updates with some of the changes this year.
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I have enjoyed your guides my friend. This one is no exception. I go to Kona every year (for business of course) and enjoy the updates. Hope we can meet up this October!

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. . and of course there are a whole bunch of other really nice areas to ride! :)

Yes there are.

A couple of rides that will keep you on the IMWC course and can be done without dealing with the in town crowds. Load your bike into your rental car and:

1. Depart from the Waikoloa Beach resorts (personally I park behind Bike Works Beach and Sport) and head south (make a right on the Queen K at the stop light) and head south on the Queen K until you hit Kukio just prior to climbing the hill. If you make a U-turn on the Queen K and head back to the Queen's shop's that a 40 K ride and is the Lavaman Olympic length Triathlon bike course.

2. Make a left out of the resorts and ride up to Hawi. You just cut the IMWC course in half (more or less) and you're riding the 'worst' part of it.

3. Ride from the Mauna Lani resorts area. Park in the shops there, make a loop around the resorts if you like then exit onto the highway, turn left and head to Hawi. You're now on the Ironman 70.3 Hawaii bike course (eliminating the loop out of Hapuna to the Mauna Lani entrance. The Honu turn is at the U`pulo Point Airport road sign btw. A bit short of Hawi proper.

4. Ride from Hapuna Beach State Park. Go for a swim first, or afterwards.

5. Quick and easy loop: From the Shops at the Mauna Lani, make 2 -4 complete loops and then turn on to the highway heading southbound towards the Waikoloa Beach resorts, at the Waikoloa Rd stoplight (this revised intersection may be new to some folks, it's the first stop light headed south after leaving the Mauna Lani). Make a right turn and ride the loop around past the Queens shops and make a left at the Waikoloa Beach Resort Rd stoplight and head north and return to your car.

6. Hawi climb. A bunch of people will park in Kawaihae and ride the road to Hawi and back. limited parking there though. Make sure you have sufficient hydration for the full route. there's nothing between Kawaihae and Hawi and just the convenience store at the gas station in Kawaihae.

Stuff not on the IMWC course.

1. Ride the new saddle road (Daniel Inouye Rd). Extremely wide shoulders. The elevation gets quite high too. You can actually go to Hilo on this road. Be careful on some of the side roads, there are zero shoulders there -- particularly the old saddle road where people in cars fly along it. If you're not racing you can actually ride to the Mauna Kea Visitors Center which is at 9000 ft or so. In fact we have a race that does that every August, "Sea to Stars." Check out the Hawaii Cycling Club on Facebook if you're ever interested in it.

2. Ride to Honaunau from Kona. Down Alii Drive to where it turns and climbs to the Keauhou Shopping center. Keep going. Follow that around and down the hill past the Sheraton. Keep going, the road loops to the left, just after that you'll see a right run.... that's the pit. Yes that Pit. Ride down it if you like. If you've never seen it and you're in town, you should go see it. Now imagine running it, then running back the way you came. Leave the pit with a right turn onto the bypass road (Alii Dr), it's now up and down the hills and past the 'old end' of the road. Follow this around until it makes a huge steep climb to the belt highway. Short and nasty. When you're at the top there you're on the belt highway, the road off to your right heads down into Honaunau. Nice ride down, pain getting back out. :) This is part of the Ultraman World Championship bike ride in November. Feel free to shorten this however you like.


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Its our first trip out to kona and my gf is racing... Any suggestions for a beach near the town? We are staying right down by the pier
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I have been looking forward to the survival guide! This year will be my first and only time participating at IMWC. 16 Ironman finishes later and I qualified via a the Legacy Program. Thrilled - grateful and proud. We'll be in Kona for two weeks (arriving on the 1st) and then head to Honolulu a week. If you have any tips for Honolulu - I'd appreciate them. Thanks again for the guide!
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Its our first trip out to kona and my gf is racing... Any suggestions for a beach near the town? We are staying right down by the pier

If you're near the pier and have no car head over to the Kamakahonu side of the pier. The beach there is small but nice sand. Further down Ali`i Drive is Magic Sands and Kahaluu beach next to the old Outrigger hotel. If you have a car drive the 30+ minutes north to Hapuna Bach State Park, it's the best beach on the west side. Kua Bay (Kekahakai) is across from Veteran's Cemetery and is nice though a bit small. Swimming there can be a serious challenge at times though and no life guards.


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I have been looking forward to the survival guide! This year will be my first and only time participating at IMWC. 16 Ironman finishes later and I qualified via a the Legacy Program. Thrilled - grateful and proud. We'll be in Kona for two weeks (arriving on the 1st) and then head to Honolulu a week. If you have any tips for Honolulu - I'd appreciate them. Thanks again for the guide!

Welcome to the big dance. It's an experience and a chance that you've earned the hard way. As someone once told me, "It doesn't matter how you get here. What matters is what you do with it when you're here." She also added, "Things will go wrong. How well you do, and perhaps whether or not you finish, depends upon how you react to it. Just keep moving no matter what."

There are actually several 'sections' I left off the guide that I now have to add back in. One dealing with chiropractors and A.R.T. One dealing with 'refueling' stops on the bike and run while training and one on optimal viewing locations for family. I'll have those up a bit later today.

Honolulu? Pearl Harbor -- USS Missouri and Bowfin tours plus the Arizona Memorial. Iolani Palace. Waikii Beach just because. The grand dame of Waikii, The Moana Sheraton. The pink palace, The Royal Hawaiian (It's actually coral not pink.). The north shore and pipeline. The Shrimp truck up on the north shore if you're not a vegetarian. Kua`Aina Burgers on the North Shore in Haleiwa town. Oh and maybe even the Royal Mausoleum. That's where Hawaii's monarchs, princes and princess are buried. Don't forget Diamond Head Road and the lighthouse. That will do for starters. ;)


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I have enjoyed your guides my friend. This one is no exception. I go to Kona every year (for business of course) and enjoy the updates. Hope we can meet up this October!

I'll be here ;)

I'll stop by the Desoto booth in town. I'll be a bit busy on the 14th. back to my old volunteering ways. :)


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Another favorite ride of ours is the Kohala Mountain Road ride loop.

Starting and finishing at Hapuna Beach or if you want longer Waikoloa. Along the Queen K from wherever you start and then up the Waimea Road, then up and over the Kohala Mountain Road, with a stop in Hawi for a coffee and a snack then back to Hapuna.


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KonaCoffee,

The post is awesome and after reading a few versions now it is more real as it will be my first visit this year. I've even showed it to my significant other so she has heaps of info about our trip and to assist for my race.

Also other comments/info from posts is great.

A question.....and this could be for everyone.....what's the expo like over there and when does it kick off? I've heard that these days Rudy Project don't do their helmet sunglasses "handout" anymore....but can good deals or freebies be had?

I reckon the best thing is as a treat for my wife (her birthday present) it's skydiving.....throwing your wife out of a plane....can't wait for that! đź†
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The Ironman Village officially kicks off with the Parade of Nations which should be the Tuesday before the race. That's when the Ironman village officially opens. Honestly though a huge number of vendors are there and many are not in the village but instead at various spots in town from the grassy area by the Royal Kona to Uncle Billy's hotel near the pier.

Race week actually starts with the Path 5k and 10k run on the Sunday before the race. PATH is People's Advocacy for Trails Hawaii, they're the local walking and biking trails advocates on the island. That's when a lot of things start opening up. The Ironman Village, when you add in the vendors not officially inside the village is several times larger than any other WTC Ironman races.

The 5k/10K race is a big fund raiser for them. https://pathhawaii.org/get-involved/races/. It starts and finishes at Hale Halawai which is also the location for the Ironman village. Oh and there are freebies everywhere. Not sure what Rudy Project does as my noggin is too big to comfortably fit their one size fits all helmets.


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Spectating the Race

Swim: Getting prime real estate for watching the swim means a very early start. If you want to see the cannon blast the absolute best spot for that is across from the fish tower that is on the pier. That means along the seawall on Alii Drive and the little beach near Hulihee Palace. If the Palace grounds are open to the public that's a good spot as well. Next is the Kona Inn grounds at that point the swimmers will be at the 1/4 mile mark and at just over 2 miles on the return. beyond that there's Daylight Mind's upper floor, though they often charge a premium for that. Or if you have loads of money to spend, there's always the WTC VIP passes. There's also Bubba Gump's which is often open for breakfast during the race. If you're staying at the Royal Kona, the seawall side gives you a view of the King's Buoy area it's at the 1/4 mark in the swim. The swimmers are half way to the turn around when they're abeam the hotel and halfway back to the shore on the return.

Bike:

1. The "hot corner". Palani Road and Kuakini you'll see the cyclists 4 times; exiting T1, returning from the highway on the in town loop descending Palani Rd, returning from the in town turn around and heading up Palani for the long ride and on the way in to T2 from Kuakini.

2. If you know what they look like on the bike another spot you might see them is at the "Costco" aid station. This is Hina Lani Rd. To get there from Keauhou and in town, head north on the Queen K to Henry Street, turn right on Henry, stay on that (the mid level road) until it ends, Make a left turn and head down that as far as you can. Park and walk the rest of the way.

3. Hawi Turn around. this is above and beyond as it requires a lot of driving. You need to get on the upper highway, the Mamalahoa Highway (Go up Henry St to the stoplight past Safeway and turn right). Follow the Mamalahoa (State Route 190 btw) all the way to Waimea (1 hour or more). Make a left turn at the end followed shortly by a right turn onto Kohala Mountain Rd (State Route 250). Follow that to Hawi. Make a left, find a place to park and walk to the bike turn around. This will take many hours.

4. Shorter version of the above. Go see the racers near the resorts. Follow the direction as above, except after you pass the Daniel K. Inoyue Highway (new saddle road) you'll come to Waikoloa Village road. Turn left. Follow that as far as you can. Park well clear of the road and carefully walk to the Queen K. The riders will be flying at this point on the way outbound.

5. In town Turn Around. The turn around is on Kuakini. To get there from in town: make your way to the Queen K. Headed south from town continue down to the Kuakini turn. Turn right and follow that towards the road block. Park and walk. From Keauhou, head north on the Queen K and make a left.

Run:

In town works well anywhere along Ali'i drive. The Old Hot corner (Hualalai and Alii) is a good spot as the runners pass there 3 times (Outbound from T2, outbound to the highway at mile 10 or so, and inbound to the finish) . You can also get to the Alii Drive turn around by heading to Keahou and getting onto Alii near the Keauhou shopping center. Follow that just away (1 mile or so). Find a place to park and walk to the barrier. Also you can get to the Energy Lab if you're ambitious. Upper Highway again except come down Kaiminani as if you're headed to the airport. Find a place to park and walk a mile or so south (seriously, it's not easy).


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Refueling During Training

If you're here early and planning on getting that last longish run and bike ride in you'll want to know where you can resupply for your run and bikes. For the swim: there's the coffee barge. ;)

The easiest is running. If you're focusing on Ali'i drive there are a lot of places in town if that's your turn around. ABC Stores (convenience stores), Kona Town Market (mini store) etc. As you head south towards Keauhou things thin out. There's a liquor/convenience store at Casa de Emdeco about 3 miles south. After that down near Lyman's surf spot there are a couple of places to get something, the Poke Shop and the convenience store on the mauka side. In Keauhou there's the shopping center. Running long on the highway? Plan ahead. Leaving town there's the harbor shops but that's a mile plus round trip detour. The Matsumaya's on the highway past the Costco turn plus the convenience store there at the new gas station.

Biking: Leaving town north, it's Matsuyama's. They're bike unfriendly there though. No bikes in the store. I've never had trouble leaving my bike out front but keep an eye on it. there's also the convenience store at the gas station there. After that it's the resorts. 24 miles or so. At the Waikoloa resorts there are the Queen's shops including a large semi convenience store. After that it's the Shops at the Mauna Lani including a small Foodland run grocery store. beyond that you pickings are slim. The gas station in Kawaihae is the only spot between the Mauna Lani and Hawi town for refueling. If you're desperate there are public parks and beaches that have running water (though not all do). I've dropped into Spencer's Beach in Kawaihae for example when I found myself dry and without $ (poor preflight check on my part). Up in Hawi town there are a lot of places. Many are bike friendly (enough). The grocery store is off the main drag, ride through town then turn right as if you're heading out of town towards Waimea. The store will be on the left side shortly afterwards.

BTW, gas stations are scare on the way to Hawi. In town or those on the way out of town. The resorts at Waikoloa. Waikoloa Village, Kawaihae.


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Added refueling and spectating info to the op.


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Jtaylorh wrote:
I have been looking forward to the survival guide! This year will be my first and only time participating at IMWC. 16 Ironman finishes later and I qualified via a the Legacy Program. Thrilled - grateful and proud. We'll be in Kona for two weeks (arriving on the 1st) and then head to Honolulu a week. If you have any tips for Honolulu - I'd appreciate them. Thanks again for the guide!

Any specific types of information you'd like about Honolulu?
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This will be our first time to Hawaii and have found all the popular/touristy things to do. We will be staying in Honolulu. I will have already shipped my bike home so I not worried about riding. Are there things the are off the beaten path that we should consider doing.

Thanks.
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Do you know what days that market happens on the corner of Ali'i and Hualali? The one with the fruit/veggies/leis/souvenirs/etc? If I remember correctly from previous trips it only happens on certain days of the week, but now I can't remember....
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Hmmm. I could swear its 7 days a week. BUT I shall stop by and see. They do have all new tent/awnings though! Nice and clean ones. :) I'll post an update later (after my morning swim then a drive to upcountry to check on the house build).

Oh I'll have info on ART Chiropractors posted a bit later today as well.


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Can you help refresh my memory. This will be my 3rd time coming in to spectate (still trying!!). The previous times I'd walk back and forth from the Pier to the condo down Ali'i throughout race day. This time I rented a mtn bike. I know Ali'i is closed for run, but will I still be able to casually bike back and forth on Ali'i (along w/ the walkers)? I just don't remember if bikes were prohibited or even policed.
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but can good deals or freebies be had?


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Two years ago, my wife and I came home with I think 12 each! :)

It was THE thing to hand out free then.

We gave most of them away when we got home.


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Can you help refresh my memory. This will be my 3rd time coming in to spectate (still trying!!). The previous times I'd walk back and forth from the Pier to the condo down Ali'i throughout race day. This time I rented a mtn bike. I know Ali'i is closed for run, but will I still be able to casually bike back and forth on Ali'i (along w/ the walkers)? I just don't remember if bikes were prohibited or even policed.

Close to the pier and at least out to the "Hot Corner" on the run at Alii and Hualalai, and then out as far as Huggos, it might be advisable to just walk the bike along, after that I would say it's use your common sense. In the middle of the race field it is obviously pretty hectic with two-way traffic of runners going out and coming back along Alii.


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This will be our first time to Hawaii and have found all the popular/touristy things to do. We will be staying in Honolulu. I will have already shipped my bike home so I not worried about riding. Are there things the are off the beaten path that we should consider doing.

What do you mean when you say "Staying in Honolulu"?


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The easiest is running. If you're focusing on Ali'i drive there are a lot of places in town if that's your turn around

Just adding to KC's excellent tips here, ounce into race week proper, Gatorade is usually set up by the big tree in-front of the King Kam hotel just by the pier and in years past. This is mostly for pre/post morning swim people - but if you are running by there, they have just been handing out bottles of Gatorade to anyone (I think).

Also along Alii drive, you'll find a number of nutrition companies who have set up renegade booths/tents and they will be handing out samples, and have dispensers of their product to fill bottles with.

In years past Powerbar in cooperation with Lance Watson and the crew from Lifesport Coaching were set up at about 2k from the pier.


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My not quite secret ... I tore my meniscus two years ago training for the 2015 New York City Marathon. It's was due to osteoarthritis rather than an acute injury, so It's not your regular surgery and back to normal (there is no surgery in such cases -- usually). So ... I haven't been that far down Alii Drive since I was doing my training for the 2016 New York City Marathon (I'm stubborn if nothing else) and I had quite forgotten about the Gatorade (and others) aid tents down Alii.

All of which is why I say this is a collaborative effort. :)


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Water update.

Apparently all you athletes must smell during the lead up to the race... never showering etc. Just kidding of course, but the DWS (Department of Water Supply) says that there is no shortage of water for the IMWC. The 15,000 people that come here for the race (as athletes, volunteers, family members or those on the "business" side) almost exactly match those that left after labor day. While I might disagree, they likely have data to back their claim. The long and short of it is they don't expect water shortages (e.g. outages) for the race. I believe that means the showers in T1 will probably still be running as always. So shower away. BTW, it's been raining this past week so if this keeps up, Kona will be it's usually semi-green self.

Here's the article from West Hawaii Today if you're interested.

http://www.westhawaiitoday.com/...train-during-ironman


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A.R.T. Practitioners

If you're looking for an A.R.T. Chiropractor (Active Release Technique) while in town for the race there are at least two that i know of. All deal with athletes of various abilities (from beginner to ultra elite pro's) on a regular basis. While they can do your standard adjustments if you're inclined, that is not the focus of their work. ART deals with soft tissue rather than the skeletal structure. Many find it valuable to help get things firing again.

Makai Chiropractic is in old industrial on the same road as Bike Works. They're the building closest to Palani rd if that makes sense visually. They have two ART chiropractors. 808-329-7900.

Odin Wilmott. Odin was ART trained though he no longer maintains his affiliation with ART. He will also come to you, bringing everything he needs for your session. 808-443-4097.


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Thanks for all the info and updates.
How has the weather been in general? Hot humid windy? Last year was mild compared to years past.
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Can you help refresh my memory. This will be my 3rd time coming in to spectate (still trying!!). The previous times I'd walk back and forth from the Pier to the condo down Ali'i throughout race day. This time I rented a mtn bike. I know Ali'i is closed for run, but will I still be able to casually bike back and forth on Ali'i (along w/ the walkers)? I just don't remember if bikes were prohibited or even policed.

You'll be fine on most of the course all day. From your Alii Drive condo you can go both directions justr be sure to be aware that the races will be rather oblivious. Once you're in town you likely will not be able to get past the old hot corner on Alii heading towards the finish line. That's Hualalai Rd and Alii Drive. Turn right there (up on the sidewalk most likely) and head up to Kuakini, then you can follow the course out onto the Queen K. Many folks use the center divider for their riding. Be careful as there is race day traffic (ice deliveries, water deliveries, volunteer folks putting out 'fires' etc.). If you're out on the highway near the first two or three run aid stations look for an older guy on a Specialized Stunt Jumper. That'll be me going between aid stations. Unless I'm driving. ;)

BTW, I've been told by a friend working for the aid station director that the ice deliveries are changed a bit and there's more. If you're one of the handful (literally less than 2 dozen) that got shorted in last years race at one aid station, it shouldn't be able to happen this year. There'll be all new challenges instead. :)


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Thanks for all the info and updates.
How has the weather been in general? Hot humid windy? Last year was mild compared to years past.

Today's weather is different than race day weather. It will be windy up north (beyond Kukio and the 4 Seasons) and particularly on the stretch from Kawaihae proper to Mahukona (the 90 degree turn to Hawi). That section will have crosswinds then a direct headwind most of the time. When you're behind the grading cuts get ready for a blast on the way out opposite of what you expect, then a switch to 180 opposite. At least that's my experience.

Currently it's muggy, calm and hot. I rode for 1+30 up at the Mauna Lani on Wednesday on my P3. I was well lubed with Trislide. I am still raw in spots. Riding a bike in a sauna. I'd expect race day temperatures to be in the mid 80's with the Queen K temperatures 5 -10 degrees warmer. Unless you're a night time runner. ;) Hydrate, electrolytes etc.

Temperatures can be brutal along with nasty winds. 2009. Crowie told me after the race (we have a mutual friend) that he couldn't feel his feet during the bike ride and when he started running .... he won btw. That was the year it was 120 on the Queen K and they had to peddle downhill from Hawi. 2014 had no wind on the swim, a south bound current, no wind on the bike in town and then 40 knot headwinds all the way to Hawi and all the way back (though they shifted off a direct headwind at Kawaihae Junction. 2011 was near ideal race conditions. 2016 wasn't bad at all by Kona standards!

The recent (last 5 - 8 years) race day weather has changed a bit due to our ever present VOG (Volcanic Fog). That's the haze layer you see here all the darn time. That's kept the swim somewhat less brutal on our exposed skin but it's also caused the Ali`i Drive run to be even more humid than normal. The vog is caused by the volcano. Blame Madame Pele. But blame her nicely, she doesn't take criticism (constructive or otherwise) very well. The summit eruption which has been ongoing for about 10 years now has made the vog constant rather than occasional. BTW, it is worth the trip to the Jaggar Museum/HVO in the park at night to see the glow and sometimes the lava in Halemaumau crater (the crater within Kilauea Crater at Volcano National Park) .


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I'm never going to make it to Kona, probably not even as a tourist. Having said that, I kinda like reading this every year. Great job, as always!

It's a great place to visit. You should consider going one year for the race - just to hang out and take it all in. Or just go to Kailua for a vacation. By Hawaiian standards, if you shop around for accommodation, and wait to get a good priced flight, it's not that expensive to go to.

People go on and on about airfares and how expensive they are. When I first went to IMH to race in 1989, I think I paid about $900 (CAN$) - that seemed to me like a small fortune at the time. I was much younger and not making much money. I just booked our flights to go this year (for work), and I'm are paying about $1000 (CAN$).

What other item/commodity has stayed nearly the same price for 30 years!!. Those flights to Kona seem like a deal!

if i'm not qualifying, i'm going to have to think long and hard if i want a legacy slot, especially if i'm close. but that's just my ego.

as for prices, that's pretty cool. but then again, planes are MUCH MUCH more efficient. i bet the cost to fly a plane from california to hawaii cost half of what it used to cost 30 years ago.

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as for prices, that's pretty cool. but then again, planes are MUCH MUCH more efficient. i bet the cost to fly a plane from california to hawaii cost half of what it used to cost 30 years ago.


Absolutely - there are many things that the airlines are doing now, today, more efficiently then they were 30 years ago.


if i'm not qualifying, i'm going to have to think long and hard if i want a legacy slot, especially if i'm close. but that's just my ego.

Why? It's within the rules/protocols that is the case. When IRONMAN Founder John Collins sold the race to Valerie Silk years ago, one of the provisions in the contract was that there, "always be space on the starting line at IRONMAN Hawaii for the, 'every-day-athlete'". Successive owners, on up to the current ones have kept that promise alive through several programs for those every-day-athletes to be on the starting line!


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if i'm not qualifying, i'm going to have to think long and hard if i want a legacy slot, especially if i'm close. but that's just my ego.

Everyone who has both the desire and ability to complete and train for long course triathlons should do Kona. Everyone. It's not just for elites, that was never the point. If you get the finishes in for a legacy spot, you earned your slot.


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Thanks! Best post ever, every year. Do you know what the foliagical situation is on the upper highway? I like to ride from the top of Hina Lani to Waimea and back and I'll have an extra couple of weeks on the island this year. But last time I was riding up there the brush on the side of the highway was overgrown in a lot of spots and kind of nullified the normal little 2-3 foot shoulder. Lame. I'll probably take a drive up there on my first day to check it out before trying a ride. And there was some kind of massive construction project on the little climb up to Pu'uanahulu. I think that was way back in the winter so it may be done by now. Or not.

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The upper highway foliage has been cut back for the most part in town and fairly recently. The problem with the ride to Waimea in that direction is the drainage repairs near the Big Island Country Club on the climb. It's down to a single lane with zero shoulder. Traffic direction is controlled by a stop light (24/7) with delays of about 5 minutes wait on average for the opposite direction to clear. That construction will not be completed until January. An alternative would be to ride the Queen K to Waikoloa Rd and make a right there. The road shoulders have been widened quite a bit on the east side of town so you shouldn't have any need to be in the road way. You could ride that up to the upper highway then resume your ride as normal. Or just climb up Kawaihae Road if you leave early enough.


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Sweet, thanks. Yeah, Waikoloa Rd is nice now, after being the most horrendous ride on the island IMO before the upgrade, and there's the other Lava Java in the Village half way up for a nice coffee stop. I'll probably do the full Mamalahoa a few times anyway.

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PSA: if you want to train in 90 degree heat, and in terrible air quality worse than the vog on the Island, come to PNW right now.
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Big thanks! You earn major good karma points for your write up.
Just KQ'd at CDA. Gotta get me a new set of legs. Can barely make it up a flight of stairs today.
Yikes!

Awesome job at KQ. You are a stud.
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Any info on the TGINR (thank god I'm not racing) party this year?
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Refueling During Training

Biking: Leaving town north, it's Matsuyama's. They're bike unfriendly there though. No bikes in the store. I've never had trouble leaving my bike out front but keep an eye on it. there's also the convenience store at the gas station there. After that it's the resorts. 24 miles or so. At the Waikoloa resorts there are the Queen's shops including a large semi convenience store. After that it's the Shops at the Mauna Lani including a small Foodland run grocery store. beyond that you pickings are slim. The gas station in Kawaihae is the only spot between the Mauna Lani and Hawi town for refueling. If you're desperate there are public parks and beaches that have running water (though not all do). I've dropped into Spencer's Beach in Kawaihae for example when I found myself dry and without $ (poor preflight check on my part). Up in Hawi town there are a lot of places. Many are bike friendly (enough). The grocery store is off the main drag, ride through town then turn right as if you're heading out of town towards Waimea. The store will be on the left side shortly afterwards..

One lesser-known option between the north side of Kona and Waikoloa is the Hualalai resort - though it has a guard entrance, just tell them you're going to the market, which is right in front of the entrance to the Four Seasons. (They also have a gas station that believe it or not has normal prices.)

The public beach access there, btw, has awesome OWS and is a great place to see turtles. There was a family of five hanging out on the rocks every afternoon when we were there a couple of weeks ago. Again, just tell the guard you're going to the public access, and you will be handed a parking pass and likely shown a shaka.

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Any info on the TGINR (thank god I'm not racing) party this year?

It's usually Friday night of race-week ( the night before the race) and at Huggos.

I heard somewhere that IRONMAN bought the Huggos property - true?


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Sweet, thanks. Yeah, Waikoloa Rd is nice now, after being the most horrendous ride on the island IMO before the upgrade, and there's the other Lava Java in the Village half way up for a nice coffee stop. I'll probably do the full Mamalahoa a few times anyway.


This is great news - the addition of shoulders on the Waikoloa Road. We've ridden it in the past, and I never felt good about it - it was a bit sketchy in sections and I know there was an unfortunate death along there a few years ago.

It certainly opens up some great options for alternative rides - that are now safer. Is the new shoulder all the way from the Queen K up to the Upper Levels Hwy?


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It certainly opens up some great options for alternative rides - that are now safer. Is the new shoulder all the way from the Queen K up to the Upper Levels Hwy?
Yep, bottom to top. It's a nice ride now. Only problem is if you ride to the top you end up in the middle of nowhere. Turn left and it's 11 miles to Waimea and usually into a headwind all the way. Turn right and it's 22 miles back to Matsuyama store. Or just turn around and coast back down, 12 miles back down to the Queen K. So it's a good plan to stop halfway at Waikoloa Village - Lava Java or the grocery store - to fill up the bottles. Kawaihae is probably better for a climb since you can refill down at the Kawaihae turnoff and then again at the top when you get into Waimea, since the climb takes you right into town.

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Great Read...Thanks.
This will be my first Kona race and I have a fairly large group coming to watch and they keep asking this question..."will we be able to nudge our way in to see the finish line?" They have done the WTC VIP every race but are not paying these prices. Any thoughts on seeing a 10:15/10:30ish finish? Thanks..
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They won't be able to meet you st the finish line but they will be able to see you finish. They just need to push their way into the crowd neAr the finish line on the mauka side of the road. Some people meet their racers at the hot corner, Kuakini and Palani and the head straight down Palani to the finish line area they'll be you as you have a mike to go and they only have a few hundred yards or so.


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This will be my first Kona race and I have a fairly large group coming to watch and they keep asking this question..."will we be able to nudge our way in to see the finish line?" They have done the WTC VIP every race but are not paying these prices. Any thoughts on seeing a 10:15/10:30ish finish? Thanks..


Let me be clear - this is an awesome race in an awesome place and the finish line is hallowed ground and it's been in that same location for a long time but, the whole set up is not very crowd friendly.

The Race organization does there best to make it as open as possible, but you can only get so many people into the small space/place that is available outside the race foot-print. Getting really close to the finish line is a bit of a challenge. It does ebb and flow - Big crowds for the finish of the Pros Men and women, in the mid afternoon, then it will drop off for a bit in the late afternoon early evening (top age-groupers), but ounce really dark, the crowds tend to pick up again as they ramp things up for the last couple of hours from 10pm - midnight - really big crowds again.


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This is such helpful information! First time racing Kona, first time to Hawaii, been too nervous to actually sit down and read this whole thread, haha. Thank you for the time and effort you put into this!
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First time racing Kona, first time to Hawaii, been too nervous to actually sit down and read this whole thread, haha.


There is all kinds of great information in KonaCoffee's main post as well as others chiming in with tid-bits of info. KonaCoffee knows his stuff - he LIVES there!

Meanwhile, others like myself have visited many times. I've raced the race (2X), been there to support my wife racing it two times, and now been for a number of years as someone who works in the both the endurance sports events business and the bike/tri business. I've experienced all aspects of what it's like to be in Kona for Race Week!

For the first-timers like yourself - I would suggest reading over the first post - the Survival Guide and then if you have any questions (no question too dumb), ask away!


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This is such helpful information! First time racing Kona, first time to Hawaii, been too nervous to actually sit down and read this whole thread, haha. Thank you for the time and effort you put into this!

Same for me. Also first time. Thanks a lot to KonaCoffee.

I'm happy that I found out that the bottles with water and gatorade (probably the electrolytes are gatorade) are slightly too small for normal bottle holders (this is basically unworthy for such an event (yes THE event in triathlon) in my opinion) and that it is wise to experiment with rubber bands because of that.

A question from me is that I have asked in another thread already but nobody knew: at most IMs the positions of the aid stations are marked in the course maps, is there something like that for the Kona course? (Obviously not on the official site). Thanks.
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I'm happy that I found out that the bottles with water and gatorade (probably the electrolytes are gatorade) are slightly too small for normal bottle holders

What's the issue with the bottles? Just do as Faris did ;-)
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motorcity wrote:
longtrousers wrote:

I'm happy that I found out that the bottles with water and gatorade (probably the electrolytes are gatorade) are slightly too small for normal bottle holders

What's the issue with the bottles? Just do as Faris did ;-)

Yes that's exactly what I mean. Isn't that a bit silly for a WC?
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longtrousers wrote:
motorcity wrote:
longtrousers wrote:


I'm happy that I found out that the bottles with water and gatorade (probably the electrolytes are gatorade) are slightly too small for normal bottle holders


What's the issue with the bottles? Just do as Faris did ;-)


Yes that's exactly what I mean. Isn't that a bit silly for a WC?

I've been around long enough to remember events would have "real" bottles with race logos, etc. (I still have a few). I know it's expensive. A few years ago at a race I had a water bottle turn sideways on my seat tube cage and my foot ended up kicking it where it proceeded to flip into my spokes (and luckily, out) - scared the heck out of me.

Oh well...

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Allow me to add my huge congrats to KonaCoffee for this. What a great help.
Jtaylorh, let me add a couple of suggestions for Honolulu, if you have the time. If you're a shopper, make sure you get the bus to Ala Moana, which is a massive shopping mall not too far from Waikiki. In Waikiki (at least this was how it operated when I was last there a few years ago), you'll see people around the streets selling bus tickets for the Waikele Outlet Centre - if you have a day spare and you want to get some bargain shopping done, this is a must.
I haven't done this, but I know one or two people who have done the submarine dive (not the Pearl Harbor exhibit, but an actual tourist sub near Waikiki). Apparently it's not cheap, but it got a big thumbs-up.
And I can vouch for a day at Pearl Harbor - an excellent and evocative history lesson.
By the way Jtaylorh, well done on the Kona start. I hope you and KonaCoffee have great days at the race.

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KC, thanks for the "Guide"!! I am in this year for my only chance to race in Kona (Legacy after 13 finishes) and am thrilled with all the great info you've shared. THANK YOU!
I come into this race intimidated beyond words, mostly because my training has been pure shit! I have had a difficult time with nerve damage in my low back effecting my sciatic nerve thus my run training sucks. Bike training is acceptable and swimming is on par with past IMs.
My question of the vets is, how screwed am I? All of my IMs have been sub 14 (most sub 13). I ride the bike well and enjoy open water ocean swims. My body handles heat well so with the correct feeding schedule on race day, I should be okay there. The "run" is completely a mystery as to what to expect. Another epidural injection or two still scheduled before race day might get me back to light running....
Truth is I've never worried about cutoffs and this is the race I might face the time limit due to the possible lack of ability to run at all.
Any sage advice??

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Yesterday (9/16/2017) we had the first bicycle accident that can be attributed in a very large degree to the elevated bike lane between the airport and the harbor and the varying elevations as it ramps up and down approaching intersections. The cyclist was taken away in an ambulance and although he's not seriously injured it serves as a warning to everyone (including locals).

Please be very careful on your training rides particularly while going into and out of town. This accident happened to a local who knows the area, those who don't are at an even greater disadvantage. The IMWC office is planning on a couple of things to help warn athletes of the hazard (extra signs and 'ambassador riders' in the area), but extra vigilance on your part will be necessary. You worked too hard to get here, don't jeopardize race day by putting your mind on vacation as you ride.

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There's no requirement you run a full 26.2 miles. You have 17 hours to finish. If you come off the bike in a decent time before bike cutoff, you're in good shape. Keep the minimum required pace in mind and try to give yourself a bit of a margin using a run-walk. Do what all of us after dark people do, run-walk. Listen to how the body is doing and keep moving.


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As hard as it might seem to be honestly I'd recommend that you just do your own "race" and not worry about the day. Control yourself on the bike. I mean really control yourself on the bike. Enjoy the first 10 miles of the run along Ali'i Drive and then just get through the final 16. Run/walk is your friend.

Heck, do what I did my first time there and sit down and enjoy a beer at run special needs - there's a small beach park in the Energy Lab with spectators and beer should be easy to find. I was offered a beer from a keg when I sat down to change my socks and thought "why not, it's not like I'm going to win this thing."

Congrats and enjoy the day!
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I saw Babbitt on Tuesday, same day and place as before.

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As hard as it might seem to be honestly I'd recommend that you just do your own "race" and not worry about the day. Control yourself on the bike. I mean really control yourself on the bike. Enjoy the first 10 miles of the run along Ali'i Drive and then just get through the final 16. Run/walk is your friend.


Yes, yes, and yes!

There is something about THIS particular race - the swim, is VERY competitive and deep. Thus many will OVER-swim.

Then onto the bike - the first hour or two is VERY deceptive. It's often calm with no wind and maybe even a slight tail wind, you are jacked up by the big crowds on the side lines in town, the numbers of riders around you on the course, the numbers of false flats you encounter in that first couple of hours of riding, - this all adds up to many people WAY OVER-biking for that first couple of hours. They get to Kawihae and the climb to Hawi and, in short - they are cooked. If you are gassed, here . . . . it's going to be a VERY long day for you!

You turn at Hawi, and you get a bit of respite on the long run back down to Kawihae, and you then realize, you are now riding into somewhat of a gusty head-wind. You get a bit of a reprieve from this head-wind, on the short - 2k - climb from Kawihae back up to the Queen K Hwy, but it now feels like you are riding in a blast-furnace and it suddenly feels insanely HOT! Then back into the straight and quartering head-winds for the long ride back to Kailua-Town and T2. The hill past Waikoloa to the Scenic Look out will feel like a "mountain", and it's still a long way from there to Town!

What am I getting at here - this race, more than any other IM race, pays MASSIVE dividends to those who can pace and ride well within themselves for at least the first half of the bike. If you do that, you will see all kinds of carnage on the road back from Hawi, and MOST importantly you will set yourself up for a strong run, because VERY few, just a select few, will ever run close to their potential in Kona!


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If you take the newly widened Waioloa Road from the Queen K up to Hwy 190 and turn towards Waimea, the Saddle Road turnoff is only a few miles away which goes past Waikii Ranch and ends at Daniel Inouye Hwy which has very wide paved shoulders so you can make it a loop and come back down to Hwy 190.

The scenery up through Waikii Ranch and beyond is beautiful and gives you 4000+ ft of climbing from the Queen K. This is a great road to ride without much traffic if a) you have the gearing to get up it and b) you have the brakes to get back down.

As for riding from Kawaihae to Waimea on Hwy 19, the road is twisty and has minimal shoulders in places for the first few miles going uphill from just past the T intersection. There is plenty of traffic including transport trucks on weekdays, particularly if a container ship has unloaded at Kawaihae Harbor. It can be a narrow and scary ride until the road widens and straightens closer to Waimea.

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As hard as it might seem to be honestly I'd recommend that you just do your own "race" and not worry about the day. Control yourself on the bike. I mean really control yourself on the bike. Enjoy the first 10 miles of the run along Ali'i Drive and then just get through the final 16. Run/walk is your friend.


Yes, yes, and yes!

There is something about THIS particular race - the swim, is VERY competitive and deep. Thus many will OVER-swim.

Then onto the bike - the first hour or two is VERY deceptive. It's often calm with no wind and maybe even a slight tail wind, you are jacked up by the big crowds on the side lines in town, the numbers of riders around you on the course, the numbers of false flats you encounter in that first couple of hours of riding, - this all adds up to many people WAY OVER-biking for that first couple of hours. They get to Kawihae and the climb to Hawi and, in short - they are cooked. If you are gassed, here . . . . it's going to be a VERY long day for you!

You turn at Hawi, and you get a bit of respite on the long run back down to Kawihae, and you then realize, you are now riding into somewhat of a gusty head-wind. You get a bit of a reprieve from this head-wind, on the short - 2k - climb from Kawihae back up to the Queen K Hwy, but it now feels like you are riding in a blast-furnace and it suddenly feels insanely HOT! Then back into the straight and quartering head-winds for the long ride back to Kailua-Town and T2. The hill past Waikoloa to the Scenic Look out will feel like a "mountain", and it's still a long way from there to Town!

What am I getting at here - this race, more than any other IM race, pays MASSIVE dividends to those who can pace and ride well within themselves for at least the first half of the bike. If you do that, you will see all kinds of carnage on the road back from Hawi, and MOST importantly you will set yourself up for a strong run, because VERY few, just a select few, will ever run close to their potential in Kona!


This. It's a long day no matter where you're at in the pack. Pace yourself.


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Re: 2017 Kona Survival Guide [KonaCoffee] [ In reply to ]
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Winds:

I have no clue what the winds will be like on race day. You will have wind though.

2011 was the last year conditions were "mild." That year the race featured very strong crosswinds from the resorts through Mahukona and then a nasty headwind to Hawi. 2014 was the last year with stunningly nasty winds. That year featured strong direct headwinds from Veteran's Cemetery to Hawi and again from Hapuna Beach to Veteran's Cemetery (mile 100). Be that as it may, the norm is for light to no winds in the in town loop (T1 to Kuakini to Makala to the Queen K to Palani to Kuakini south bound to the turn around to Palani to the Queen K). Once you're on the Queen K you can expect no winds or as Fleck said, tailwinds. That will last until around Kukio or perhaps the resorts depending upon where you're at in the race.

After Scenic Overlook (prior to the resorts north bound) plan on strong cross winds from the Saddle (your right side) and perhaps a quartering head or tailwind component to that. From the Mauna Lani to Kawaihae Junction you may have no wind or on a crummy day (2014) a headwind. The descent from Kawaihae Junction to Kawaihae won't be affected by wind much unless it's bad. Kawaihae to Mahukona is rolling hills trending into a climb. Expect strong crosswinds and a complete reversal of winds momentarily when you come out behind the grading cuts.

From Mahukona to Hawi the norm is a direct headwind though a strong cross wind from the right is also not terribly unusual.

The wind shifts between 9:30 am and 11:00 HST. It shifts almost 180 degrees turning from a land breeze to an onshore breeze. Plan on having the winds be almost exactly opposite of your trip to Hawi for your return from Kawaihae unless you're in the elite of the elite category.


Pace yourself, it's a long day.


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KonaCoffee wrote:
Yesterday (9/16/2017) we had the first bicycle accident that can be attributed in a very large degree to the elevated bike lane between the airport and the harbor and the varying elevations as it ramps up and down approaching intersections. The cyclist was taken away in an ambulance and although he's not seriously injured it serves as a warning to everyone (including locals).

Please be very careful on your training rides particularly while going into and out of town. This accident happened to a local who knows the area, those who don't are at an even greater disadvantage. The IMWC office is planning on a couple of things to help warn athletes of the hazard (extra signs and 'ambassador riders' in the area), but extra vigilance on your part will be necessary. You worked too hard to get here, don't jeopardize race day by putting your mind on vacation as you ride.

Aloha.

I wondered when this was going to happen. I rode that section in late August - it's not that tricky if you know about it but it would be super easy to go down if you're not paying attention. I didn't count the exact number of elevation transitions, but there are a lot of them (or were in August). Some depend on whether you follow the bike lane to continue straight where the shoulder section widens for a right turn or whether you stay to the right on the new part of the shoulder.

Glad the guy wasn't seriously injured.

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First time to Kona, and love this thread, cannot wait! Question about swim start/position. I'm a reasonable swimmer (usually ~55m in wetsuit swim, understand I won't swim that in Kona). I do however sometimes have issues with crowds. I'm wondering where you'd recommend to start that's a combination of potentially less crash n' bash vs. starting so far wide or out the back that it really impacts my swim? I also plan on doing the swim the week before which will hopefully give me a better idea too, cheers.
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The starting cannon is on the pier up on the fish scale. If you're susceptible to loud bangs .. don't line up there. I did that one year cause in my pre race jitters I forgot where the cannon was. Some of the stuff in the write up is from quite personal experience. Took me a week before my hearing returned to normal. ;)

The pier side is where the faster swimmers usually line up. It gets crowded. It's a straight shot down the swim line from the edge of the pier. I usually lined up to the left a fair ways over with the slow swimmers. I'm not particularly slow, but I'm not fast either. I just aimed down course towards the turnaround boat and gradually made my way over to the swim line. It'll be less crowded over to the left. Keep in mind though that you're probably going to always be in a draft group or near other swimmers throughout the swim. If you're not, check your sighting. :P


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That's what I figured, thanks :)
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sneeuwaap wrote:

I wondered when this was going to happen. I rode that section in late August - it's not that tricky if you know about it but it would be super easy to go down if you're not paying attention. I didn't count the exact number of elevation transitions, but there are a lot of them (or were in August). Some depend on whether you follow the bike lane to continue straight where the shoulder section widens for a right turn or whether you stay to the right on the new part of the shoulder.

Glad the guy wasn't seriously injured.

Ian

I've gotten to the point where I no longer ride from or to town, too much of a hassle and this is part of it. That's ok for me as I live here, have lots of options, and I'm not racing. Hopefully 2018 will have a finished highway and fewer biking distractions.


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The pier side is where the faster swimmers usually line up. It gets crowded. It's a straight shot down the swim line from the edge of the pier. I usually lined up to the left a fair ways over with the slow swimmers. I'm not particularly slow, but I'm not fast either. I just aimed down course towards the turnaround boat and gradually made my way over to the swim line. It'll be less crowded over to the left. Keep in mind though that you're probably going to always be in a draft group or near other swimmers throughout the swim. If you're not, check your sighting. :P


Agree on this.

My wife and I have raced here twice. Neither of us are really great swimmers - me 57 low, she 1:04, and we had good experiences starting left and then slowly angling in, and jumping in a good group after 400 - 500m and it starts to settle down a bit.

If you want reasonably clean water at the start, staying over to the left is better. The fast folks and the keeners tend to congregate towards the pier side of the line.

The actual start line seems to have moved out from where I seem to remember it from years ago, but if you are left and over towards the sea-wall, be careful of some of the submerged rocks over here - as is typical on the Kona coast, it's sharp lava rock and it may have sea urchins on it!


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80 F/26.7 C or higher water temperature at the pier this morning. Great day for an ocean swim. Numerous pro's are in town and a bunch of the ultra serious ultra elite age groupers as well.


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BTW, Kalikala Cusine is a new cafe right on Alii Drive in the Banyon Shopping Center (Big Island Jewelers, Unison etc). Seating is off the sidewalk on Alii Drive while the kitchen is in the little mall. They will be open Ironman Race day and will have a killer view of the swim and end of the race. Stop by and chat with the owner when you're in town and see if you can reserve a seat for race day if you're interested. Food is good as well. ;)


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Another survival tip:

Lots of manufacturers are on the island, either at the expo or lurking around. If you have an equipment problem or question, come down to the expo and ask around.

SRAM, Zipp, Quarq will have an Expo booth and we have tech assistance on hand. We will do what it takes to support your race, and many other vendors will too.

Good luck, and see you on the island!

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Excellent point. I'll add to my list for next years update.


BTW guys on the water situation:

The DWS is reporting that our water tanks are getting dangerously low. Apparently 3+ months of tight water restrictions is wearing on folks. There's also a large contingent of athletes in town now. There's a good chance that there will be water outages over the next few days. Whether that's great than 50% I don't know, just passing on this morning's water report. Another well should be online this weekend. If so, the severe restrictions are supposed to be lifted.


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I've gotten to the point where I no longer ride from or to town, too much of a hassle and this is part of it. That's ok for me as I live here, have lots of options, and I'm not racing. Hopefully 2018 will have a finished highway and fewer biking distractions.
It's nastier than I expected with that elevated asphalt thing going on. I've been driving out to Kua Bay and riding north from there.

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It'll be interesting to see what this looks like when it's all done. Honestly I'm not thrilled with this design.

The run portion of the race on the Queen K should take place on the old part of the road I'm told and enter/exit the Energy Lab at the old entrance. There are a few obstacles they'll have to consider such as some trenches and the like so stay tuned if you're racing.

BTW, the folks at jack's Diving Locker put the temporary swim buoys up on Saturday. The should guide you to the IM turn. There are also some nice floats near the pier to make it exceedingly difficult to swim in the boat area. Difficult, not impossible. ;)


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Re: 2017 Kona Survival Guide [KonaCoffee] [ In reply to ]
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Been here for two days with two rides from Town out to Waikoloa and back.

In short - it's a bit of a mess - the Queen-K - on the section before the Energy Lab and all the way out to the Airport.

Not sure what they are going to do for Race Day. If racing - I would suggest paying close attention at the Athletes Meeting. They will no doubt be going over all this in detail at that time as to what is going to happen with the bike and the run through this section.

When training and riding to/from Town - I would suggest no "hero riding" until you get out past the Airport. There is always a shoulder, but it's not the more generous shoulder that has been along this section in the past. It's pretty narrow in sections. Also on as of today, the shoulder on the new section coming back into Town is elevated - with what appears to be the final Top-Coat of ashphalt. It's a 5cm - 10cm drop down to the main road where the cars are!! In a couple of places, you need to transition from one level to the other - slow down and exercise some caution.

As always when riding - signal EVERYTHING. Stop at all stop signs and at stop lights. Give a Thank You (Mahalo) Wave to the locals when they give you a bit of a break or a safe wide berth.

Conditions? Yesterday fairly calm with light winds to/from Waikoloa. Today? From Scenic Lookout all the way to Waikoloa a howling and ferocious head/cross-wind. This was a tail-wind when we made the turn for Town after a stop for a coffee at Waikoloa, but then at Scenic Lookout shifted to a headwind all the way back into Town!

Also, I'll leave this to KonaCoffee's much better judgement, it seems "hotter" than normal - although, perhaps it's me - I'm not in great shape and have ridden in conditions like here in Kona zero times this year. (We had a cool, wet summer in Ontario).


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The Vog is back Steve and that makes things a bit mugier than normal. I do think it's hotter as well. The AC s out on our house and the poor little portable can't keep the room very cool either. So yeah.

Good news: the severe water restrictions were lifted yesterday. If you're staying somewhere with a pool that's a bit low, it may get refilled now.

Oh and please listen to the caution posted above ... be very careful out there. Your real training is done. Don't push things until race day. And if you were planning on skipping this year's athlete briefing cause it's "old hat" you might want to rethink that.


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Lots of manufacturers are on the island, either at the expo or lurking around. If you have an equipment problem or question, come down to the expo and ask around.


Yes. Cervelo started this a few years back - a high touch, concierge tech service for all athletes racing with a Cervelo bike here in Kona. Other brands, such as Argon-18, and I am sure a few others have followed suite.

This will only be set up ounce the Expo opens next week on Tuesday. Before that you will have to seek out either Velofix - https://www.velofix.com/locations/kona/ - (I've been in contact with Nick and he's very busy) or the good folks at Bike Works. We were in Bike Works on Tuesday morning, and it was reasonably quiet - the calm before the coming storm!! :)


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I watched a set of three Ironman cyclists coming down Makala and turn onto Kuakini heading southbound yesterday. There's a three way stop there. They blew through the stop at a high rate of speed and came within a few inches of being a statistic, if the two car drivers had been less alert this would be another post altogether. That is a bad intersection. Don't do that.

But wait, there's more ...

The same riders caught up to my car at the red light on Kuakini where it crosses Palani Rd (just up from the King Kam). They blasted straight through that red light while there were cars in the intersection coming from both directions and heading in 4 different directions.


This is actually happened. It's not unusual and you will get hurt .. badly. Ask your fellow participants to slow down. Save it for race day guys.


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Bumping this!

ALL athletes/riders in Kona please read over KonaCoffee's last post.

We are guests here, but beyond that, you need to obey the rules of the road - that's just comment sense, and the right thing to do!


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so, if we want to be super safe... and we dont care if we are riding on the course or not... is there some good riding we could do, starting at downtown kona.. probably looking for 20-30 miles.
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As a matter of fact yes!

My main concern is with the narrower shoulders and varying heights of the bike lane on the Queen K due to the mess of construction. Race day that will be all resolved as the road is closed in that area and it's supposed to be finished before next years race. ahem..

From town, ride south on Ali`i Drive, stay on the shoulders as much as possible from just past Huggo's. Head all the way past the run turnaround and climb that nasty hill towards Keahou shopping center. Turn right at the light (you're still on Ali`i Drive btw) follow that along and down the hill past the Sheraton. It'll curve to the left at some point, just keep following it. If you like, make the first right after all the condo's vanish and you've made that sweeping left turn and head down into "The Pit" its a nasty but brief climb back out. Or just keep following Alii Drive all the way till you're pau (done) OR till you hit a very very steep climb to the belt highway. You can climb this if you like. I do it on my road bike only, but I'm out of shape now and a wimp anyway. ;) If you make it to the top and have had enough turn around (carefully) and ride back. The ride back past the pit will be at least 4x faster than the ride out. Did I mention there are hills on that part of the road? A bunch.

If you like, up at the very top of the end of Alii Drive/Parkway/Bypass you can swing down to the right and ride down to K-Bay (Kealakekua Bay). But what goes down must come up. It's a longish steep climb. As a note when I've done it I've climbed out and just before the intersection I switched to the wrong side of the road and rode on the shoulder facing traffic, that put me in position to make a left turn and stay on the shoulder the whole time, then when safe I switched back so I was riding the way you're supposed to. But I was doing it the last time on a busy day.

My guess is that by the time you get to the base of the climb to the junction with the highway you'll have enough mileage in.

The ride back is faster, mostly downhill. If you ride back into town and it's quiet .. let me know if you get a speeding ticket. I've been trying to get one on my bike in the early morning there for years. Hawaii County P.D. though seems to not want to give bicyclists souvenir tickets though. :)


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Oh and don't let the warnings scare you too much. Just be alert when you're out on the highway particularly in the construction area. The people that get the attention from the locals are those that are oblivious to their surroundings and endangering themselves.


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I've never understood why more people don't ride out to the south of Kailua Town - less, traffic, less cyclists, better roads to start.

The new Mamaloha By-Pass road now connects up with the main Highway south (#11) to Volcano near Captain Cook.

Picture here from yesterday https://www.facebook.com/...p;type=3&theater (making it look worse than it is!) is of me at the high-point of the Mamaloha By-Pass road were it connects back up to #11 South. As KonaCoffee suggested - turn right here, and it's an amazing drop, all the way down into K-Bay (near the Captain Cook Memorial).

You can climb back up out of here by reversing your tracks, or carry on to the left (south), on a one-lane road that looks like a dead-end, but it does keep going, It's #160 - and this give you a gradual climb all the way back up to #11. At the Junction there, there is a new Coffee shop and Cafe that has opened up - 2-Step Cafe. Perfect place for a coffee and a sweet treat. https://www.yelp.com/...2-step-cafe-honaunau


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So, I am about to ask the most critical question of all for a spectator. No, seriously, and with your username I hope you can answer it.

Where's the good coffee? I need a dark, angry cuppa Monday morning, and won't have grounds there yet. Starbucks is closer (in style) than Dunkin, to give examples, but I want something local and good. Stronk. Which coffee shops are better? And what beans should I buy to take back home?

The point is, ladies and gentleman, that speed, for lack of a better word, is good. Speed is right, Speed works. Speed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit.
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KonaCoffee wrote:
I watched a set of three Ironman cyclists coming down Makala and turn onto Kuakini heading southbound yesterday. There's a three way stop there. They blew through the stop at a high rate of speed and came within a few inches of being a statistic, if the two car drivers had been less alert this would be another post altogether. That is a bad intersection. Don't do that.

But wait, there's more ...

The same riders caught up to my car at the red light on Kuakini where it crosses Palani Rd (just up from the King Kam). They blasted straight through that red light while there were cars in the intersection coming from both directions and heading in 4 different directions.


This is actually happened. It's not unusual and you will get hurt .. badly. Ask your fellow participants to slow down. Save it for race day guys.

I was astonished, last year, at the amount of douchebag cyclists riding through every part of town like it was a closed course. I've never seen anything like it. Really depressing.
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I was astonished, last year, at the amount of douchebag cyclists riding through every part of town like it was a closed course. I've never seen anything like it. Really depressing. //

Well the 15 years I actually did the race and the 20 other times I went to watch it, all left me feeling bad about our impact on the roads there too, so your one off is actually the standard. At least in the early days it was not so many people(in the race) or that many that actually lived on the island. We had one stop light I believe at the beginning with wide open road once out of town. But it grew quickly, both the race numbers and the town itself, and unfortunately the cycling entitlement also grew along with it..


I think somehow that because it is so hard to actually get to Kona and the expense is so great, that people must feel that they kind of own that place while they are there, like being in an all inclusive club med. Hell, the underpants run was born out of that mentality!!!
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So, I am about to ask the most critical question of all for a spectator. No, seriously, and with your username I hope you can answer it.

Where's the good coffee? I need a dark, angry cuppa Monday morning, and won't have grounds there yet. Starbucks is closer (in style) than Dunkin, to give examples, but I want something local and good. Stronk. Which coffee shops are better? And what beans should I buy to take back home?

I like Kopelani, but Daylight Mind is also good. I would buy Kona Peaberry from Kopelani, but it’s a matter a personal preference I guess.
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There was a coffee place very close to the pier, on the other side of the road - but this was in 2015.

It had a sign "we sell Australian-style iced coffee", or something to that effect.

If you see that sign, I'd investigate there first.

"Find a way, not an excuse". Goony, Kona, 2009
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I was astonished, last year, at the amount of douchebag cyclists riding through every part of town like it was a closed course. I've never seen anything like it. Really depressing.


It's so easy:

1. Ride slow in town, and when out on the Queen K now with the construction and the lights, you really can't start to open it up until past the Energy Lab Turn off. This is actually perfect - a nice 10K easy warm-up and cool down built into every ride!

2. Signal EVERYTHING.

3. Stop at stop signs and stop lights and wait your turn

4. When out on the Queen -K the shoulder is pretty wide - wide enough to ride two-abreast - but keep right whether signal file or two abreast - this allows faster riders to pass on the left. There are some narrower sections of the shoulders that may not be suited for two-abreast.

From what I have seen here this week many cyclists do not adhere to 1 - 4. One can only assume that this is the way they ride at home. And now we know why motorists hate cyclists! :(


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thanks for your advice (really).

My simple brain is thinking...

You don't get a trophy for "racing" practice, and/or being stupid. I'd easily win in the "stupid" category, though not purposely; against a multi-thousand pound vehicle, I'll happily give them pretty much any thing they want. - maybe even a smile and a wave.

Aloha

I saw this on a white board in a window box at my daughters middle school...
List of what life owes you:
1. __________
2. __________
3. __________
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I want to be clear on something about the folks violating safe biking (and running) practices. We know they're a small percentage of the athletes in town. Kona has grown, there are a lot more people here than 10 years ago. There are also a lot more athletes. While the percentage of "safety challenged riders" has not increased, and in fact might be lower, the absolute numbers are higher. They stick out like a sore thumb and cause a rather vocal bit of resentment that brushes off on everyone including the 99% of athletes who are doing everything right.

We actually understand things. Nobody wakes up and thinks, "I'm going to go out and run stop signs without looking, I'm going to run red lights, block traffic on the Queen K while passing and be a hazard to myself and others." But things do happen; it's Kona, it's the world championship and you're in it! Everyone is as fit as you are and it's really happening. People in town will forget the bad apples soon enough, until next year. The hay is in the barn, slow down move right (biking or running), let the bad apples by and ride defensively .. until exiting T1 and past the mount line on Saturday.

You worked hard to get here. Most have raced multiple full length races this year just to be able to line up at Kona. Others are on a decade plus of race after race to get here. How you got here doesn't matter (unless you swam here then it matters. ;) ). What matters is what you do with your time in Kona. You have 17 hours to finish. You have to start.

It's going to be hot, it's going to humid, it's going to be windy. It's a miserable race and you'll have a great time.

I'll see some of you at the PATH 5K run tomorrow. I'll be the old guy in a white Path shirt. Other's I'll likely see at the Slow Twitch gathering. Enjoy Ironman Week.


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Toby wrote:
So, I am about to ask the most critical question of all for a spectator. No, seriously, and with your username I hope you can answer it.

Where's the good coffee? I need a dark, angry cuppa Monday morning, and won't have grounds there yet. Starbucks is closer (in style) than Dunkin, to give examples, but I want something local and good. Stronk. Which coffee shops are better? And what beans should I buy to take back home?

Menehune on the pier side of the King Kam makes a good coffee. I also like Kope Lani across from the palace on Alii Drive. Both use 100% Kona. Ask either of them to make it strong, both can swap out grinds (usually) for something different.

Do not take a blend home when buying coffee. I also think that Ka`u coffee (Sometimes it's spelled Kau .. pronounced Caw-ooo) (again 100%) from the east side of the island is quite good, very under rated. Personally if I'm buying coffee, I head down to Greenwell Farms in Kainaliu/Captain Cook and buy theirs. Mokuele Farms is good as well. If you can get in touch with the owner (via Facebook?) and get it from her directly rather than over her website you might get a better deal. For Kau coffee try Target, seriously, unless you're heading to the east side via South Point.

Friends don't let friends drink Kona Blend. :)


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Recent from Endurance Sports Wire http://www.endurancesportswire.com/
is that NBC Sports will be partnering with IronmanLive.com to bring a new level of IM coverage on the day.

It won't be available on the NBC Gold subscription, waiting on an answer to see if it will be available as a basic replay like much of their other sports coverage is, no special subscription required. http://www.nbcsports.com

Sounds like IronmanLive.com fed to NBC Sports, basically - hoping it will be stored for replay! Great HD quality, I've enjoyed all the Cycling coverage for the past 2 years via NBC Gold. I'd pay for the complete archived coverage, so long as it was every bit of it, start to finish, no announcers early and late. I enjoy just seeing and hearing whats going on, i'd prefer it not explained every second, let me just take in the sights and sounds.

here's a link:

http://www.endurancesportswire.com/...W+Fri++10%2F6%2F2017

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2024 Races: USAT State of CT Age Group Championship/State of CT HS Champs/ CT Club Championship - Sat June 15th (Oly/Du/Sprint) Hopkins Vineyard Tri at Lake Waramaug Saturday July 13th http://www.HopkinsVineyardTri.com
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What is the best landmark for sighting on the way back to the pier? Someone told me to use a cell tower, but I see multiple towers.
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Confirming Overdistance & Sylvan's earlier posts about the awesome improvements to the Waikoloa Road that now has a huge shoulder all the way up from the Queen-K up to the Mamaloha Rd. (Upper Levels Hwy) with some visual evidence from today's ride - my wife (r) and a friend (l). This was just up from the Heli-Port:



This is awesome, and is a great Off-The-Queen-K option for riding.


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Winds?

What will the winds be like on race day?

This is always a BIG question. The only right answer is the it will be windy!

We've ridden out and back to Waikoloa twice - winds were completely different on the two days!

One day there was ferocious gusts! We learned today that, these same gusts had caused three racers to crash on the course out past Mauna Lani - gusts that were quartering in from the rear, simply lifted them up off the road, and down they went at 50+ kmh. One of them was a good friend of ours, and a contender in the women's 45 - 49 AG - a boken collar-bone and lots of road rash. Broken bones for other other two as well. They all ended up at the hospital in Waimea! All three out of the race!

As noted, it may or may not be this way on race day.


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Fleck wrote:
Confirming Overdistance & Sylvan's earlier posts about the awesome improvements to the Waikoloa Road that now has a huge shoulder all the way up from the Queen-K up to the Mamaloha Rd. (Upper Levels Hwy) with some visual evidence from today's ride - my wife (r) and a friend (l). This was just up from the Heli-Port:



This is awesome, and is a great Off-The-Queen-K option for riding.

The road widening project was finished around last years race iirc. It makes it much easier, and safer, in the area east of town now.


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What is the best landmark for sighting on the way back to the pier? Someone told me to use a cell tower, but I see multiple towers.

On race day sight along the line of buoys, they'll lead you straight to the corner of the pier. Jack's Diving Locker has been putting the swim course up since the 2nd year the race was in kona. It will be stunningly straight.

For a bit better sighting before hand:

While out swimming, turn and look at the right hand tower of the King Kam hotel. Now look to the right of there just a bit. If you're close enough you'll see the bayan tree which you can sight on. Further out look just a bit further right and you'l see a single large cell phone/Tsunami warning tower which appears to be on a hill. That's the tower people are talking about.

Also you can use "the coke building" (as in CocaCola, it was owned by an heir to one of the CocaCola bottling fortunes once). This is the building on Alii Drive with the white roof across from the swim area.

From the IM turn to the Kings Buoy (Royal Kona). Sight to the right of the King Kam's most inland building or the tsunami tower. From the Kings buoy to the 800m buoy site on the tsunami tower or coke building. From the 800m buoy on in sight on the Banyan tree or coke building until near the pier.


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Winds?

What will the winds be like on race day?

This is always a BIG question. The only right answer is the it will be windy!

We've ridden out and back to Waikoloa twice - winds were completely different on the two days!

One day there was ferocious gusts! We learned today that, these same gusts had caused three racers to crash on the course out past Mauna Lani - gusts that were quartering in from the rear, simply lifted them up off the road, and down they went at 50+ kmh. One of them was a good friend of ours, and a contender in the women's 45 - 49 AG - a boken collar-bone and lots of road rash. Broken bones for other other two as well. They all ended up at the hospital in Waimea! All three out of the race!

As noted, it may or may not be this way on race day.

I'm always reluctant to describe the winds out of fear of jinxing things. :P

That said the "normal" wind is little in town as Fleck said early in the thread. A quartering headwind from the right after Veteran's Cemetery until just past the Mauna Lani, fairly calm until Kawaihae Junction. A tailwaind down to Kawaihae or no wind at all. A quartering right headwind (varying to a 90 degree crosswind from the right) with gusts (sometimes rather strong gusts) on the ride to Mahukona, a headwind on the climb to Hawi. By then the winds shift almost 180 degrees. Expect the same thing on the way back (right quartering headwinds varying to 90 crosswinds from the right). Yes ... headwinds both ways unless it's an unusual year or you're a very very fast swimmer and biker.

And ... I've just jinxed it. ;)


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Thank you. I looked for images of the tsunami tower, and got distracted by this clip of a tsunami at Dig Me beach: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n8P_pKXMKAc

Is the tsunami tower the one with big black bulbous things on it like warts?
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Ironma'am wrote:
Thank you. I looked for images of the tsunami tower, and got distracted by this clip of a tsunami at Dig Me beach: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n8P_pKXMKAc

Is the tsunami tower the one with big black bulbous things on it like warts?

yup, that would be it. About 15 or so degrees to the right of the King Kam hotel when you're way down at the kings buoy.


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Be careful out there guys. There was an accident (no real details) between a cyclist and an automobile out by the airport yesterday. I have no clue if it was a competitor, local or other. People speed there trying to get into and out of the airport. Please, heads up as you approach it.


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Be careful out there guys. There was an accident (no real details) between a cyclist and an automobile out by the airport yesterday. I have no clue if it was a competitor, local or other. People speed there trying to get into and out of the airport. Please, heads up as you approach it.

The one I know from yesterday was a non-competitor. Major cycling company rep. in town for the race. The car turned directly in front of him and there was no time to react. Passenger window shattered, mirror ripped off, etc. Came away very sore, but sounds like maybe he's feeling worse today and may get further evaluation.

My wife has been on the island a while and before this week was traveling back and forth to Kona from WBR every couple days. She's seen at least one cyclist on the ground daily at that intersection. She shuttled out for a ride today to skip the construction zone and on the drive back a few minutes ago saw a cyclist hit at the airport intersection:( After the trip out there she had already mentioned seeing a lot of close calls just along the highway with cyclists riding up to 4 wide on the shoulder.

Sylvan's idea of driving out of town to Kua or WBR to ride is a much safer approach than riding out that way while the intersection construction is still underway.
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It's a bad intersection without the construction, it's worse now.

Because, you know, cars just have to race past a cyclist almost at an intersection pass them, then slow down to slower than the cyclist and turn in front of them... because bicycles are just too slow. /sarcasm off.

It's a problem not unique to Kona or anywhere for that matter. Race day is almost here. Be careful.


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I watched bike after bike blow stoplights today driving in. Also seen numerous athletes riding with no helmets. And then there’s lights. 98% of the bikers I have seen are not using lights. It drives me nuts. Please be part of the solution.

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The Lane by the old Chevron/Tesoro currently Union 76 gas station is bad guys. Please be careful. Bikes are invisible to cars, particularly in that horrid construction zone. The race is 48 hours away. Let's have an accident free lead up, please.




Edit: Pictures from the Kona Driver's Hall of Shame Facebook page. Yes 9-1-1 had already been called.


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KC,

We're thinking about spectating at next years race and I started looking at places to stay. One of the places that we're looking at is Uncle Bill's Kona Bay Hotel. Do you know much about this hotel? Also, when should I start looking for flights? Thank you for a great post.
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MikeyG wrote:
KC,

We're thinking about spectating at next years race and I started looking at places to stay. One of the places that we're looking at is Uncle Bill's Kona Bay Hotel. Do you know much about this hotel? Also, when should I start looking for flights? Thank you for a great post.

This is one that Fleck is far better answering than I. I haven't stayed there ever. The story among locals though is that Uncle Billy's isn't nice. None of us have every stayed there though so how would we know?

Book as soon as you know your plans, the earlier the better.


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MikeyG wrote:
KC,

We're thinking about spectating at next years race and I started looking at places to stay. One of the places that we're looking at is Uncle Bill's Kona Bay Hotel. Do you know much about this hotel? Also, when should I start looking for flights? Thank you for a great post.

My wife and I come over from Honolulu and stay at Uncle Billy’s every year. It is old and funky, though they are gradually redoing the whole hotel bit by bit. If you are fussy, it might not be for you, but we continue to stay here because it’s in a great location and relatively inexpensive. They start taking reservations for IM time in January.
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Book as soon as you know your plans, the earlier the better.


I always hate contributing to the frenzy, but sooner is better - particularly when it comes to 2018. It will be the 40th anniversary.

Never stayed at Uncle Billy's. Agreed that you can't beat the location!


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I watched bike after bike blow stoplights today driving in. Also seen numerous athletes riding with no helmets. And then there’s lights. 98% of the bikers I have seen are not using lights. It drives me nuts. Please be part of the solution.


It's really unfortunate. We need to be part of the solution.

My new road riding mantra:

1. Lights on all the time

2. Shoulder check EVERYTHING

3. Signal EVERYTHING

4. Slow to almost a track-stand, at All STOP signs, making sure intersection is clear, and then proceed.

5. Stop and obey all stop lights, and follow all advanced left turn signals.

How hard can it be?

Even if one other driver sees you blow the stop sign or stop/red light, it sends the WRONG message to drivers.


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