I'm highly offended this movie features no women or persons of color ...

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I was surprised that there were some black, presumably African colonial troops among the French.

The French are pissed b/c they are not mentioned in the film.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/...ry-Dunkirk-film.html

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They are mentioned but that's about it. There's all but no scenes of the defense of the beaches as the Germans close in.

This is the third thread on Dunkirk. But it is the best one so far.

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I enjoyed Dunkirk.

I have not yet enjoyed Dunkirk, but I've read threads and this one is the best. GO DUNKIRK!!!

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Guess the Brits could have used John Wayne or some other American hero to save the day. Heck, Chuck Norris could have turned it into a British victory. :-)

There was a recent study done on how many French troops are needed to defend their country.

The results were incomplete because it's never been done.

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In 1963, United Artists released the movie "The Great Escape", based on the escape of 76 RAF aircrew members from Stalag Luft III in 1944. No Americans were in the camp at that time. (The few who had ever been held in Stalag Luft III had been moved to other camps seven months earlier.)

The actors included Richard Attenborough and David McCallum. However, Steve McQueen (jumping a motorcycle over barbed wire) and James Garner received top billing. Also included were Charles Bronson and James Coburn.

I wonder if someone had the thought when they were putting "Dunkirk" together, "Do you think we should get Ben Affleck to play an American flying Spitfires in the RAF? Maybe Bruce Willis as a wisecracking US Army general on loan to the British Army?"

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Straight away, it's spelled Dunkerque in French.

Of the 338,000 troops evacuated from Dunkerque, 140,000 were French and Belgium.

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It's kind of like when American's do a movie about D-Day. It's as though Great Britain and Canada weren't there.

The movie takes place over the period of about a day with the British mainly being evacuated, at the end it alludes to the switch in focus from getting the British out to getting the French out. The movie gives the impression that the rescue of was sort of a one time deal with the small boats coming over from England rather than an operation that went on for more than a week.

French army rifle for sale. Lightly used, never fired, dropped once.

Yeah, I was a little disappointed myself. It was ok, but It wasn't great. And, it was far too anti-septic for me. They didn't need to go to the Saving Private Ryan level of gore, but I think that the movie would have been better had it showed just a bit more of the horrors of war.

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The troops of the Empire had a pretty easy day in relative terms to Utah Omaha and the cluster of the US airborne drop.

Easy? If you believe that then you've been watching way too many John Wayne movies. Ever heard of Juno Beach?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juno_Beach

Look up the term relative and get back to me. I explicitly used it for a reason

RELATIVELY, the US troops at Utah Beach had the "easiest" day.

"Casualties on the British beaches were roughly 1000 on Gold Beach and the same number on Sword Beach. The remainder of the British losses were amongst the airborne troops: some 600 were killed or wounded, and 600 more were missing; 100 glider pilots also became casualties. The losses of 3rd Canadian Division at Juno Beach have been given as 340 killed, 574 wounded and 47 taken prisoner.

The breakdown of US casualties was 1465 dead, 3184 wounded, 1928 missing and 26 captured. Of the total US figure, 2499 casualties were from the US airborne troops (238 of them being deaths). The casualties at Utah Beach were relatively light: 197, including 60 missing. However, the US 1st and 29th Divisions together suffered around 2000 casualties at Omaha Beach."

https://history.stackexchange.com/...troops-died-on-d-day

Incredible accomplishment by all of the allied nation's troops.

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I guess you never watched The Longest Day.

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"Incredible accomplishment by all of the allied nation's troops."


My uncle Ted was in the army and tripped over a tent peg and broke his ankle the day before D-Day and had to miss the big show. At the time he was 21 yrs old and totally ticked off that he wouldn't be crossing the English Channel with his buddies since they were all convinced they were going to teach those guys a lesson. After a few months in a cast they sent him to his unit. When he got there he started asking where his buddies were. Of course they had been killed. He always said it was at that moment he realized how lucky he had been. He survived the war as did my uncle Jerry who was in a Lancaster bomber and my dad in a Spitfire with the RCAF.

Saw it today in IMAX. The sound was incredible - it shook my insides like Interstellar!

However, I am confused by the multiple timelines - the beach, the boat, and the plane. Were they all happening at the same time? It took me a bit to figure it out - more like Memento.....

I'd have to see it again to piece it all together. Some of it was definitely the day before because the first ship got sunk at night and they woke up after sleeping on the beech. The plane and second sinking, and rescue all happen on day 2. Plus the shell shocked guy the boat rescues first is a survivor of the prior night's boat sinking by the torpedo.

In the beginning the showed 'The beach, 1 week, the ship 1 day, and the planes 1 hour". Maybe that was the integration of the 3 threads but I still found it confusing.

I've absolutely watched the longest day, it is not however representative of typical American movies.

You're kidding, right??? Ok, let look at American movies re D Day.

1. Saving Private Ryan (1998) - Not really about D Day, but there is the opening scene during which we hear mention of British troops. The sole focus is on Omaha beach, for which the Americans were responsible. So, you cannot knock this movie.

2. The Longest Day (1962) - Discussed above.

3. Where Eagles Dare (1968) - Staring Clint Eastwood. Focuses on a British commando unit rescuing a US General with detailed knowledge of the Normandy invasion. It focuses on the British troops.

4. Eye of the Needle (1981) - Staring Donald Sutherland. Sutherland is a German spy in London. The story focuses on a Royal Air Force Pilot and his wife. So, again, the focus is on British troops.

5. The Americanization of Emily (1964) - Staring James Garner and Julie Andrews. Set in London, Garner falls in love with Englishwoman Andrews who has a brother fighting WWII. Most of the military in the movie are British.

We can throw in Patton and Ike, both of which heavily feature British soldiers.

Then we have The Great Escape and The Dirty Dozen, both of which feature a number of Brits.

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Did Nolan leave out the epilogue where the Brits call the the U.S. President and tell him, "Hey, old sport, I don't know if you have been keeping up with current events but we just got our asses kicked here. Can you come bail us out...again?"

Not to piss off the Forge, but the big heroes on film are always the stars and stripes boys. The Brits are usually sideline characters in these movies. Love you guys to death, but you sure love to blow your own horn even if its sometimes a distortion of facts. There is always the Hollywood version and then what really happened. Even on "Bridge on the River Kwai" William Holden played a major character despite the fact that there were no Americans in the Burma prison camps.

But to regress - The Canadians took Juno Beach which was then the second heaviest defended beach after Omaha and pushed into France the furthest of any troops by the 2nd day. That continued and Canada should have lead the parade into Paris as our troops had advanced the furthest but were ordered to hold back and let the USA go in first for reasons of politics. And in the "Longest Day", Canadian troops are not even fucking mentioned. But we Canucks are just to polite to make an issue of it. :-)

The Australians and New Zealanders played a significant role also, especially in the Pacific and how much credit does Hollywood ever give them?

LOL! I supposed we Americans should get our noses all bent out of joint for our omission from Bridge Over the River Kwai, right? We are still burning over the lack of mention of US troops in Enemy at the Gates. US troops had to be bailed out by the Brits in The Guns of Navarone, which we should be butt hurt over, right? Where are the American troops in The English Patient???

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 "Do you think we should get Ben Affleck to play an American flying Spitfires in the RAF? "

Ben needs to do a remake of "The Battle of Britain" in which he is an American flying a Spitfire and single handed wins it based on the fact that were were a handful of Americans who had joined the RAF before the USA entered the war.

Consider Ben's film "Argo" about when the Americans were smuggled out of Iran through the Canadian embassy. In the movie its a covert CIA operation but in reality the CIA had nothing to do with it. It was strictly a Canadian operation although the CIA was kept in the loop. But like I said in a previous post, there is always the Hollywood version and what really happened.

Approximately Zero.

And while we're at it. How often is Australian involvement in Vietnam mentioned? What about the Commonwealth's involvement in Korea. FFS The PPCLI even won a Presidential citation there while every US unit around them ran away.

Where are the American troops in The English Patient???

This scene. Enjoy. LOL. :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU5kwdXhSzY

The movie The Longest Day was based on Cornelius Ryan's book. In the book he's entirely fair to the non-US troops. Ryan was a Brit, Irish or a Scot, something like that. Isn't fair to crap on the movie for the US focus, it was a US movie so of course it's going to play to local audiences.

Re. Aussies and Kiwis played a significant role in the Pacific. Can you elaborate on that pls? My recollection is that almost all Aussie and Kiwi forces were helping the Brits in the various theaters that the Brit Army was oriented on. There were some early fights were the entirely unprepared Aussie and Kiwis got quickly pushed off some Islands, of course none of the Allies were prepared for the fight so that is not a unique criticism, and then there was the small group of Coast Watchers which contributed more than their #'s would suggest. What am I missing?

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We visited Juno beach as a family two years ago. It wasn't really my idea but for whatever reason my son (11 at the time) was really interested in WW2. When we arrived the first thing he did was take off his shoes and walk into the water!

I'm not one to really "glorify war" but it was very moving to be there, see the film in the museum and then go out to the beach and into the bunkers. I can't imagine what all the soldiers went through on that day.

We also visited Omaha beach. Much respect to ALL who fought that day.

BB

How about you guys make your own movies and quit bitching about ours?

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"How about you guys make your own movies and quit bitching about ours? "

Wasn't that what he English Patient was about?:-) I just wish Hollywood would make movies a bit more true to history. A lot of people get their concept of history from Hollywood and think its accurate.

What was historically inaccurate about any of the movies I posted on this thread?

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"My recollection is that almost all Aussie and Kiwi forces were helping the Brits in the various theaters that the Brit Army was oriented on. "


And? They may have been helping the Brits in many cases, but how does that diminish their significance? That's like saying Gurkas or Sikhs were insignificant because they served under the British.

Of those that have done some reading re. the Korean War, the Commonwealth's contribution is, imo, highly respected. While in Korea we did a little "leadership walk of some of the battlefields the Commonwealth fought in. Like much of Korea, the terrain was brutal. By all accounts the Commonwealth guys fought their asses off.

If you talk to a South Korean tho, they won the war themselves. Starting in the 70's they revised the history that Korean kids are taught. In the current text books the UN forces weren't much of a factor.

Re. the PPCLI having their flanks exposed when the US forces withdrew. Is always best to have a Marine Corps unit on your flank.

Or the Rangers.

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I asked you to elaborate on your assertion that that Aussies and Kiwis made a significant contribution in the Pacific. And that's your answer? Really?

The issue is not whether or not they made a significant contribution. No one has disputed that. The issue is contribution in the Pacific.

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OMG. You're actually being serious aren't you? No wonder you're a Trump supporter.:-)

No, it's in Churchill's "we will defend the beaches..." speech which is quoted at the end.

In other words, you are unable to give a single example. Not one.

Wow.

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During the first five months after Pearl Harbor, while US troops were being defeated on Wake Island, Guam, the Philippines, and Java, the Australian 8th Infantry Division was fighting losing battles in Malaya, Singapore, the Dutch East Indies, and New Britain. Almost all of them were killed or captured, and one-third of the POW's died in Japanese prison camps.

From roughly mid-1942 fhroigh the end of 1943 the Australian Army had a major role in the defense and subsequent retaking of Papua, New Guinea.

From 1944 on, the Australian Army was employed in less glamorous campaigns mopping up in New Guinea and the Solomon Islands and the recapture of Borneo.

Including naval and Air Force casualties, the Australians suffered 17,500 killed along with almost 14,000 POW's in the Pacific Theater.

Of course before and after the US entered WWII the Australians were also engaged against the Germans and Italians, especially in N Africa.

If you calculate total deaths due to the war as a percent of the prewar population, the US escaped WWII relatively lightly compared to our allies, much less compared to the Axis powers.

United States - 0.32
Canada - 0.38
Australia - 0.58
UK - 0.94
France - 1.44
USSR - 13.70

Germany - 8.24
Japan - 3.50-4.34
Italy - 1.06

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We ANZACS are quite proud of the support we've provided to our allies over the years. We got given a bit of a raw deal by the Brits in the trenches of Gallipoli in WWI that was by all accounts every bit as brutal as the famed WWII allied beach assaults.

We didn't later watch the turmoil unfold in Europe from afar until we were attacked. We didn't lose the bulk of our fleet because we were asleep at the wheel. Ok ok perhaps we didn't have a fleet, but we kept a good watch on our canoes. We like to think we've given great support to both the Brits and the Yanks when called upon to fight wars that did not involve us.

There's been a few local war movies, though they are always headlined by foreigners (Gallipoli and Mel, Romper Stomper and Russell, Gladiator - Russell again).

Our most famed war movie though is The Castle. Outgunned by a vastly superior army, the heroes (led by General Darryl Kerrigan) overcame significant odds to triumph over adversity having had the serenity of their way of life threatened.

Back on thread, the film looks interesting and I look forward to taking my Italian born, Argentinian raised Canadian father in law to it next week. He will be best placed to comment on its authenticity.

Those people are idiots. That's like saying, "Gee, I wish The Daily Show was more accurate. Lots of people get their news from The Daily Show."

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See..that shows the Americans had already won the war! You are welcome!

Shouldn't we be focusing on if the main solder guy ever got take a dump? He needed to at the beginning of the movie and it never addressed it again.

I went and read up on Alan Turing after seeing that movie about him. In the movie about the only thing that was historically accurate was he worked on figuring out the Nazi code and he was gay. Everything else was changed to make a "good" holllywood story from his personality to his interactions with his collaborators to the role he played.

The issue is not "did the Aussies and Kiwis fight in the Pacific." The issue is "did the make a significant contribution in the Pacific.

Again, this is not a criticism of Aussie and Kiwi contribution in WW2. I've read a lot of WW2 history and I've never ever read anything critical of them. In the discussions of their various fights that went poorly, the blame is always directed at the (mostly) Brit generals. The ANZAC troops tho, are always spoken well of. Brit troops too, for that matter.

The Aussies and Kiwis getting their asses kicked in the first year of the Pacific war isn't a "significant contribution". All the Allies got their asses kicked in the first year of the war. The Germans and Japs really had their act together and it took a while for the Allies to catch up. Calling the debacle at Singapore a "significant contribution to the war in the Pacific" is like saying the US made a significant contribution by getting most of it's Pacific fleet waxed at Pearl Harbor.

Re. New Guinea. Their defense wasn't any more contribution to the Pacific war than our defense of Wake Island. Noble, but the Japanese just steam rolled right over them.

Offensive actions around New Guinea. I agree, the ANZACs don't get much credit for this in the American view. A problem here is that you guys were working with the US Army and not the Marines, and the latter's PR is a million times better. Most Americans are practically unaware that the US Army also fought in the Pacific.

Mv2005. I've worked with both Aussie and Kiwi Army types. They are not just terrific, they are also really fun.

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The phrase "successful defense of Port Moresby" might be a little ambitious. Just like the other early-war invasions, Port Moresby was getting it's ass kicked. But in this case the Battle of Coral Sea stopped the Japanese push in that direction.

I'm not familiar with Milne Bay.

I'd like to withdraw from this debate. We're just splitting hairs. I've always liked the Aussies and Kiwis very much and would rather just say nice things about them vs. argue that their contributions in the Pacific weren't that significant. The ANZAC forces were significantly burdened by the need to support the Brits against Germany. That didn't leave much for the Pacific theater. Sure, the ANZAC forces got their asses kicked by the Japanese all over the place in the first year of the Pacific war, but the Japanese were kicking everyone's butts back then. The Japanese had been preparing for years, so they simply knew what they were doing. Much of their early-war equipment was better than ours, their sailors and airmen were more skilled, and their senior leaders more experienced. It took us a while to catch up with, for example, torpedoes that worked, radar directed gunnery, better airplanes, better doctrine, a large and skilled military force, and the biggest of all Allied advantages, "more stuff".

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There is something to be said to not hosting a war.

Coral Sea was the US Navy's contribution to the defense of Port Moresby. Check out the.Kokoda Trail and Milne Bay for Australia's part. Both were important and they're interesting studies, but neither is as familiar to Americans as Coral Sea.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/...okoda_Track_campaign

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/.../Battle_of_Milne_Bay

You're right, it's time to move on. Thanks.

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I got curious about this so I've been meaning to look it up. I didn't recall an incident where the US had left a Commonwealth unit in the lurch. Of course, the Army did indeed have some bad days in Korea so it was certainly possible. The Marines were not always in the right place to cover for the occasional shortcomings of their Doggie brothers.

Here's the fight where Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry got the Presidential Citation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kapyong

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Apr51, so ~6months after, to the very great surprise of only MacArthur, the Chinese entered the war with their massive attack at Chosin Reservior, the UN forces found themselves in the area that is now the border of North and South Korea. A Chinese division attacked a couple Commonwealth battalions, 1 Aussie, 1 Canuck, call it a 5:1 advantage for the Chinese. The Commonwealth bns were exposed because the South Koreans (ROK) had, once again, folded, even tho Kiwi Arty had been stripped from the Commonwealth bns to support the ROKs. The Aussies fought their asses off. Pretty desperate fight the first night. 2nd day was better because the Kiwi arty was back in support of the Commonwealth bns. Canadians were darn useful, but it was the Aussies that took the hardest hits, ultimately having to execute a fighting withdrawal which is always bad. Really a terrific effort by the Aussies, Canucks, and Kiwis.

The Americans weren't all that involved. Not really fair to say "every US unit around them ran away". There was one US unit that did exactly that tho. A Chemical company pressed into service to use it's smoke mortars to drop HE. That does suck, granted. But those guys were not Infantry Bn mortars, nor were they Artillery Bn 105's or 155's, it was a Chemical company, for chrissakes. All they ever expected to use their mortars for was to drop smoke to cover an attack. If your life ever depends on getting covering fire from a Chemical company while their own perimeter is taking direct fire, you're screwed.

Really sucks that F4U Corsairs napalmed the Aussies. That one is on the spotter plane. Friendly fire is always tragic, but it's terribly difficult to exercise control of supporting arms when you have no commo with the other guy. Big thumbs up to the Aussie CPT that ran out under fire and waved off the Corsairs with a signal panel.

So, Aussies, Canucks, and Kiwis did awesome. And if you tell a Chemical Company to turn in their smoke rounds and for HE, bring them into your perimeter so you can protect them.

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I saw the movie last night and I really enjoyed it.

Wife and I saw it at IMAX on Sunday and both of us give it thumbs up. The audio effects were top notch. Wife says lots of good looking guys so that keeps her interest I guess. We left the kids at home because it was a "war movie" and they are pretty young (5 and 7). They probably wouldn't have enjoyed it much, but actually it was probably more kid compatible (in terms of language, violence, gore, sexuality) than most of the latest comic book hero movies.

How about "The Devil's Brigade" it's crock full of Canucks. It also has Bagpipes.

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Screw those. The greatest WW2 movie didn't need any Limeys. I'm talking about Kelly's Heroes. It was so good Spielberg basically ripped off the end.

We caught a matinee yesterday. I really enjoyed it, though the flipping back and forth along the time line was distracting, but not enough to loose focus on the story.

I was pleasantly surprised my kids (13 & 14) loved it. The 14 y/o has never seen any WWII movies, only the occasional documentary I happen to be watching on TV. The 13 y/o has only watched Fury so their baseline was pretty much nil. MrsMcK414 loved it as well. I think the bloodless violence and never actually seeing the faces of the Germans added to the intrigue. The scenes of soldiers drowning while below decks really kept them on the edge of their seats.

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I went with my 14 year old son and he really liked it too.

Y'all are crazy :) Saw it today and though it was terrific. The cinematography was gorgeous and the score (especially at the beginning) had me keyed up waiting for the next shoe (bomb) to drop. As for anti-septic/horrors of war, I think they got the below-decks stuff right on...pretty horrifying even if it's not filled with blood and guts.

The sound effects really did it for me. The screaming of the diving planes and bombs were great and really built anticipation.

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I think he wanted a rating that let young teenagers in. Also, blood and guts must be hard to get right -- some of the audience has seen so much that they feel let down if it's not totally over the top, others so oversensitive they tune out.

He got you feeling the situation in other ways - running over a plank, getting stuck underwater, booms getting closer down the beach, swooping around in the planes, all the sideways camera angles. Saw it in widescreen but want to go again in Imax just to get the surround experience.

Yes! Agree with all of this. That opening scene with the bombs marching down the beach - pucker factor 11, but beautiful too. And the huge sweeping turns of the planes; deliberate, almost balletic grace in a stalking death sort of way.

Seeing it on the big screen was critical, you get the sense of huge weight and unstoppable momentum as the ships capsized and the planes wheeled through the sky. And yes, the surround sound in IMAX was excellent - flinched several times as gunshots rang out unexpectedly.

Agreed. Was clenching my abs during the plane scenes like I was pulling Gs.

To be honest, I was also disappointed with the movie when I watched it for the first time. I went to the movie with high expectations. I expected action sequences in the movie. But it was completely different from what I thought. But, after a few days, I watched the movie again on Onebox hd app. This is my favorite movie app that I use to watch the movies at home or work place. This time I really liked it and I thought Nolan focused more on the story rather than other things like action sequences and specific character.

Just watched it and found this thread. Looks like most of it got derailed, but I'm in the meh camp. It probably accurately depicted what this part of the war was like and I'm always fascinated by that and try to put myself in the soldier's shoes. Frightening stuff. The seemingly disjointed timeline and lack of character development lost me. It certainly didn't leave me wanting to see more. Don't feel like this is one I need to see again to appreciate more.

Hated the disjointed timeline. I did not understand we were seeing 3 distinct stories from 3 viewpoints and hopping from one to another.

I actually enjoyed it more when I watched it the second time b/c I understood the timeline.

Overall, I enjoyed it, but certainly was not blown away.

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Love this,, I would like to leave, but before I do I am going to get the last word...

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Saw it recently. Too much hype for me to have really liked it. Didn’t mind the time lines so much as I thought the story itself was lacking in terms of what I was looking for.

Didn’t like the fighter planes part of the story as much as most here. Thought it was for lack of a better term made to look easy. There’s a German plane , one shot , got em.

I hated the boat scene at the end when they were hiding in the beached craft. Number one I don’t think a boat that size is going to get off the beach the way it did. Could be wrong. I really think the bullets from the Germans were coming in from the wrong side. Earlier when the officer on the pier pointed to the right and said along the lines of that’s where the Germans are closest. Then when the soldiers run to the boat also to the right. When bullets start hitting they came from the left. I’ll have to check that but fairly sure it was wrong.

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Therein lies the problem. I have said this before with other movies because I catch myself doing the same. When you are that focused on little details like that (i.e., the side of the boat from which the fire is coming), it means the story has lost your interest. That is a failure of the movie.

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Didn't look through the entire list but here's your chance to add to the list. I love this site as it makes re-watching movies fun when you know what to look for.

https://www.moviemistakes.com/film12004

I think the second time through will be much better. First time - a visually stunning movie that I had no idea what was going on.

Question- was the young guy taking a crap in the beginning a deserter?

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I don’t think so. He and his squad or who ever he was with were foraging for food and water. The rest of were killed and he went back to the beach.

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Yep.

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I generally enjoyed the film but it left me wanting. However, reading Joshua Levine's book filled in a lot of detail behind the story and the choices that went into the movie. I think I would look at it differently now.

https://www.goodreads.com/...how/34304263-dunkirk

Perfectly said! Yes! I kept waiting for the penultimate moment that seemed to just not come.

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