So who runs for President in 2020?

May 17, 17 16:10

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IF Trump is (a) still in office; and (b) wants to do so, it'll be Trump on the ticket for the Republicans. (That raises a whole different issue, though, of whether or not the Republicans will nominate him.* We'll find out.)

Who runs from the Dems? Bernie's my bet for the Democratic nominee, but that's kind of a lazy pick on my part because he was so close and so passionate last cycle that I'm assuming it will carry over to the next cycle. I didn't think the Dems were stupid enough to trot out the heavily baggage laden Hillary, but they surprised me, so maybe they'd even nominate Warren (if she even wants any of that action).

*Before anyone jumps on me for alleged partisanship because I floated the idea that the Republicans might abandon Trump... I really believe we all need to take what we think we know about Presidential politics and throw it out the window. These next 3.5 years are going to redefine what we thought was possible/within the realm of reason (for one example, see: the Senate's rule change to get Gorsuch confirmed).

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Crank] [ In reply to ]

May 17, 17 16:23

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For better or worse, I think Trump has opened the door for "celebrity" presidential candidates. (Or, maybe that was Reagan...)

In that context, I'd like to see Mike Rowe for the Reps. He's got mostly conservative views, but has appeal to the labor/blue-collar demographic.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Oprah, Whoopi, Afleck, or some other left-leaning Hollywood star get the Dem nomination.

"100% of the people who confuse correlation and causation end up dying."

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Crank] [ In reply to ]

May 17, 17 16:52

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Add to my brother's thoughts, here is a prediction.

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [MOP_Roy] [ In reply to ]

May 17, 17 17:15

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There's always ND Tyson for the Dems, too. He's a natural to capitalize on the predictable backlash against the current denigration of science, intellectualism, and general reasoning. Plus, he still has celeb credentials.

"100% of the people who confuse correlation and causation end up dying."

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Crank] [ In reply to ]

May 17, 17 17:55

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Corey Booker was being tossed about as a potential candidate, but then he took some action that sided with Big Pharma & lost credibility with the left.

I'd still love to see Tulsi Gabbard up there, but she doesn't have the recognition. An attractive candidate that one -- currently active in the military reserves, doesn't toe the party line, strong convictions...but she's from Hawaii and isn't popular with the Dem base at this point. She resigned her DNC position during the primary and called out some of the DNC's crap.

It's still way out there and Trump has made Presidential politics a freaking wild card. Who knows what'll happen. I'm convinced that if the DNC doesn't learn from the Mistake of Hillary, we're going to see a Repub again in 2020...and I doubt that they've learned.

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Crank] [ In reply to ]

May 17, 17 18:03

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I like Seth Moulton, second-term Congressman from MA who also did four tours in Iraq and Afghanistan as a Marine combat platoon leader. Active on the Veterans Affairs committee, has shown a willingness to reach across the aisle and also not afraid to call out members of his own party such as Warren on certain issues.

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Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Crank] [ In reply to ]

May 17, 17 18:13

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I get the feeling that Bernie is still campaigning. I expect to see him in the mix again.

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Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Crank] [ In reply to ]

May 17, 17 18:22

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Whoever it is, they will be running against Mike Pence.

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Crank] [ In reply to ]

May 17, 17 18:52

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Pence will be running for the Republicans. Too soon to predict the Democrat candidate.

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Crank] [ In reply to ]

May 17, 17 18:52

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Bernie would be 79. He won't be the nominee.

Corey Booker, Gavin Newsome, John Kasich (hey, if Trump can run as a Republican anything is possible)

Any spare charismatic Democratic southern governors hiding somewhere?

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Brian in MA] [ In reply to ]

May 17, 17 18:58

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Brian in MA wrote:

I like Seth Moulton, second-term Congressman from MA who also did four tours in Iraq and Afghanistan as a Marine combat platoon leader. Active on the Veterans Affairs committee, has shown a willingness to reach across the aisle and also not afraid to call out members of his own party such as Warren on certain issues.

I like him too, but think he'll still be too green to be the likely nominee. Could pull off an Obama-like rise, but wouldn't bet on it.

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Crank] [ In reply to ]

May 17, 17 19:20

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CAN YOU SMELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL ......... WHAT "THE ROCK" .......... IS COOKIN'? !!!!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2708877-the-rock-thinks-its-a-real-possibility-he-runs-for-president-in-gq-exclusive

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Jim @ LOTO, MO] [ In reply to ]

May 17, 17 19:34

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Jim @ LOTO, MO wrote:

CAN YOU SMELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL ......... WHAT "THE ROCK" .......... IS COOKIN'? !!!!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2708877-the-rock-thinks-its-a-real-possibility-he-runs-for-president-in-gq-exclusive

Beat me to it. It's gonna be The Rock.

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Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Crank] [ In reply to ]

May 17, 17 19:39

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It doesn't matter. The smart money will be on the famous person.

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Crank] [ In reply to ]

May 17, 17 22:17

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My bet is we will once again see Kasich for the Republicans and Bernie for the Dems. They are out in front of the cameras constantly and despite Kasich insisting he isn't even thinking about 2020, he is a politician so of course he is going to run.

I also think Paul Ryan will run for the GOP and that Trump will not run.

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Crank] [ In reply to ]

May 17, 17 22:43

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The Rock

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Andrewmc] [ In reply to ]

May 17, 17 23:08

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Andrewmc wrote:

The Rock

So if Pocahantas runs against the Rock, who wins?

I already know who loses: the rest of us.

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Crank] [ In reply to ]

May 18, 17 4:25

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How about Tim Kaine for the dems? Kasich for the Pubs seems a good choice. I think Bernie is too old. After Trump I think America will have a pullback from way out there candidates.

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Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Crank] [ In reply to ]

May 18, 17 5:37

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I can't believe nobody has mentioned Kayne. He's already said he's running didn't he?

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Crank] [ In reply to ]

May 18, 17 5:57

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How about someone like Andrew Cuomo for the Dems?

Former Indiana governor Mitch Daniels seemed to be pretty well-liked in Indiana. He seems like a relatively moderate Republican with business sense, but he'd be in his early 70s by 2020.

I like the idea of someone with:
- International business sense
- Served in the military

That's probably already asking too much.

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Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Crank] [ In reply to ]

May 18, 17 5:57

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Bernie is so old, I don't see it happening.

Corey Booker for sure. Kaisich for sure. What about 3rd party? Will we see Gary Johnson and Jill Stein again?

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Virginia Plain] [ In reply to ]

May 18, 17 6:28

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Virginia Plain wrote:

Kaisich for sure.

Kaisich has been all over CNN saying "I told you so". What is nice in his interviews and commentary he has gotten much more aggressive, IMO he wasn't aggressive enough during the campaign.

I told my wife I think CNN wants him to run by giving him all of this airtime. She responded by saying he is the only republican she would vote for.

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [AndysStrongAle] [ In reply to ]

May 18, 17 6:44

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AndysStrongAle wrote:

Virginia Plain wrote:

Kaisich for sure.

Kaisich has been all over CNN saying "I told you so". What is nice in his interviews and commentary he has gotten much more aggressive, IMO he wasn't aggressive enough during the campaign.

I told my wife I think CNN wants him to run by giving him all of this airtime. She responded by saying he is the only republican she would vote for.

I preferred him for the primary but I didn't vote republican this time. My republican friends wanted him.

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Andrewmc] [ In reply to ]

May 18, 17 7:08

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Andrewmc wrote:

The Rock

I give you the 46th president of the United States... Rocky Maivia!

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Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [AndysStrongAle] [ In reply to ]

May 18, 17 7:13

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AndysStrongAle wrote:

Virginia Plain wrote:

Kaisich for sure.

Kaisich has been all over CNN saying "I told you so". What is nice in his interviews and commentary he has gotten much more aggressive, IMO he wasn't aggressive enough during the campaign.

I told my wife I think CNN wants him to run by giving him all of this airtime. She responded by saying he is the only republican she would vote for.

During the debates my guess is he thought that everyone else was going to implode when they started comparing dick size and calling each other names. If he stayed above the fray and was the reasonable one then he could swoop in and pick up the pieces. It wasn't necessarily a bad strategy in normal times, but that wasn't what this election was about.

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [MidwestRoadie] [ In reply to ]

May 18, 17 7:43

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Quote:

I'm convinced that if the DNC doesn't learn from the Mistake of Hillary, we're going to see a Repub again in 2020...and I doubt that they've learned.

What mistake? The election was stolen by Trump and the Russians, and Comey (he should have been fired, but not by Trump and not right now). If not for the interference, Hillary would have won by 50 points.

They just need to #resist for 4 years, then things will get back to "normal."

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [efernand] [ In reply to ]

May 18, 17 7:48

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efernand wrote:

Quote:

I'm convinced that if the DNC doesn't learn from the Mistake of Hillary, we're going to see a Repub again in 2020...and I doubt that they've learned.

What mistake? The election was stolen by Trump and the Russians, and Comey (he should have been fired, but not by Trump and not right now). If not for the interference, Hillary would have won by 50 points.

They just need to #resist for 4 years, then things will get back to "normal."

That's my answer, as well. And I see Chelsea as the next "well deserved" POTUS.

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [efernand] [ In reply to ]

May 18, 17 8:07

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Hahahaha! That's ridiculous and you know it.

Hillary shouldn't even have been the nominee. You can't blame the Russians -- if there is even anything to that speculation -- when it's known that the DNC colluded in the primary against Bernie. That was proven. And it cost Hillary critical votes in the general, as it should have because enough principled people realized that Trump's bombastic incompetence for the position did not outweigh Hillary's participation in outright corruption to steal the nomination.

Blaming "The Russians" without acknowledging Hillary & the DNC's own role is just senseless. Hillary & the DNC are just as much to blame for Trump's ascendency to President as any other factor.

efernand wrote:

Quote:

I'm convinced that if the DNC doesn't learn from the Mistake of Hillary, we're going to see a Repub again in 2020...and I doubt that they've learned.

What mistake? The election was stolen by Trump and the Russians, and Comey (he should have been fired, but not by Trump and not right now). If not for the interference, Hillary would have won by 50 points.

They just need to #resist for 4 years, then things will get back to "normal."

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Old Hickory] [ In reply to ]

May 18, 17 8:07

Post #29 of 49 Views: 2143

Old Hickory wrote:

efernand wrote:

Quote:

I'm convinced that if the DNC doesn't learn from the Mistake of Hillary, we're going to see a Repub again in 2020...and I doubt that they've learned.

What mistake? The election was stolen by Trump and the Russians, and Comey (he should have been fired, but not by Trump and not right now). If not for the interference, Hillary would have won by 50 points.

They just need to #resist for 4 years, then things will get back to "normal."

That's my answer, as well. And I see Chelsea as the next "well deserved" POTUS.

Hillary was a bad candidate, no doubt about it. But both parties have been written off several times over the last 25'ish years. Most recently the Democrats right at this moment and the Republicans I think as late as about 8:00 pm November 8th.

Are the Democrats done because they nominated Hillary? Well, were the Republicans done when they nominated Dole? or McCain/Palin? or Romney? Was the US done when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [j p o] [ In reply to ]

May 18, 17 8:11

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Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [j p o] [ In reply to ]

May 18, 17 8:19

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j p o wrote:

Old Hickory wrote:

efernand wrote:

Quote:

I'm convinced that if the DNC doesn't learn from the Mistake of Hillary, we're going to see a Repub again in 2020...and I doubt that they've learned.

What mistake? The election was stolen by Trump and the Russians, and Comey (he should have been fired, but not by Trump and not right now). If not for the interference, Hillary would have won by 50 points.

They just need to #resist for 4 years, then things will get back to "normal."

That's my answer, as well. And I see Chelsea as the next "well deserved" POTUS.

Hillary was a bad candidate, no doubt about it. But both parties have been written off several times over the last 25'ish years. Most recently the Democrats right at this moment and the Republicans I think as late as about 8:00 pm November 8th.

Are the Democrats done because they nominated Hillary? Well, were the Republicans done when they nominated Dole? or McCain/Palin? or Romney? Was the US done when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Was Hillary Clinton done when the Russians hacked the election?

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [j p o] [ In reply to ]

May 18, 17 8:21

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Quote:

Are the Democrats done because they nominated Hillary?

No, they are done because they didn't see any problem with nominating Hillary, or with they way they got her nominated, and they will probably nominate a very similar candidate in 2020.

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [MidwestRoadie] [ In reply to ]

May 18, 17 8:31

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Quote:

Hahahaha! That's ridiculous and you know it.

Just to be clear, my post should have been in <pink>

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Old Hickory] [ In reply to ]

May 18, 17 8:31

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Old Hickory wrote:

j p o wrote:

Old Hickory wrote:

efernand wrote:

Quote:

I'm convinced that if the DNC doesn't learn from the Mistake of Hillary, we're going to see a Repub again in 2020...and I doubt that they've learned.

What mistake? The election was stolen by Trump and the Russians, and Comey (he should have been fired, but not by Trump and not right now). If not for the interference, Hillary would have won by 50 points.

They just need to #resist for 4 years, then things will get back to "normal."

That's my answer, as well. And I see Chelsea as the next "well deserved" POTUS.

Hillary was a bad candidate, no doubt about it. But both parties have been written off several times over the last 25'ish years. Most recently the Democrats right at this moment and the Republicans I think as late as about 8:00 pm November 8th.

Are the Democrats done because they nominated Hillary? Well, were the Republicans done when they nominated Dole? or McCain/Palin? or Romney? Was the US done when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Was Hillary Clinton done when the Russians hacked the election?

No, she was done because people just don't like her very much. The crazy haired old socialist who joined the party the evening before he announced he was running with a wife almost as crooked as Trump nearly beat her.

People who pretend like Democrats were united behind her just weren't paying attention. Not counting super delegates, she only beat Sanders 2205 - 1846.

The problem was the money and party machinery decided that she was the best option and it kept others out of the race. So yes, I hope the Democrats don't repeat that mistake.

But then if I were a Republican, I would hope they don't repeat the mistake of Trump.

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [efernand] [ In reply to ]

May 18, 17 8:37

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Sorry. It's hard to know these days in our political climate, because there are others who fully believe it was all the fault of the Russians.

Strange times we live in, my friend.

efernand wrote:

Quote:

Hahahaha! That's ridiculous and you know it.

Just to be clear, my post should have been in <pink>

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [MidwestRoadie] [ In reply to ]

May 18, 17 8:43

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I'm curious to see how many people change the way they vote because of this. Despite the fact that some blame votes for Gary Johnson or Jill Stein to have taken away from Hilary, will people be so disgusted with both parties that they just can't give in to the two party system anymore? I know I'm feeling that way right now.

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Virginia Plain] [ In reply to ]

May 18, 17 8:55

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I left the two party system quite some time ago, but I really think it's still here to stay. The story might be different if the situation of money in politics -- and where it comes from -- were different. But it's not and I don't see that grip being loosened at any time in the foreseeable future, despite the garbage candidates we've seen nominated.

Virginia Plain wrote:

I'm curious to see how many people change the way they vote because of this. Despite the fact that some blame votes for Gary Johnson or Jill Stein to have taken away from Hilary, will people be so disgusted with both parties that they just can't give in to the two party system anymore? I know I'm feeling that way right now.

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Crank] [ In reply to ]

May 18, 17 9:09

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Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Virginia Plain] [ In reply to ]

May 18, 17 16:50

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I voted for Johnson because the other candidates sucked.

I'm hoping Rand gets a good run at it. I think he could be a unifing force. Social liberal, fiscal conservative, won't go into war on a whim. I do t think he will but that's my hope.

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Crank] [ In reply to ]

May 18, 17 17:15

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I would love for Charlie Baker (Rep governor MA) to run. He does have the highest approval rating of any governor, but I don't think he could win the nomination.

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Crank] [ In reply to ]

May 18, 17 18:22

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Crank wrote:

IF Trump is (a) still in office; and (b) wants to do so, it'll be Trump on the ticket for the Republicans.

IF he wants to? He filed for reelection the day after the inauguration!

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Virginia Plain] [ In reply to ]

May 19, 17 7:51

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Quote:

I'm curious to see how many people change the way they vote because of this. Despite the fact that some blame votes for Gary Johnson or Jill Stein to have taken away from Hilary, will people be so disgusted with both parties that they just can't give in to the two party system anymore? I know I'm feeling that way right now.

I think the only thing that will break the 2 party system (and maybe 'fix' the government), would be a constitutional amendment that limits the federal budget to some percentage of GDP and something like $1T or $2T. Until then, with about 535 people in charge of handing out $4T, there is just too much incentive to control things.

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [scorpio516] [ In reply to ]

May 19, 17 8:59

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scorpio516 wrote:

Crank wrote:

IF Trump is (a) still in office; and (b) wants to do so, it'll be Trump on the ticket for the Republicans.

IF he wants to? He filed for reelection the day after the inauguration!

That's before he realized presidenting was hard.

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [SailorSam] [ In reply to ]

May 19, 17 11:20

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SailorSam wrote:

scorpio516 wrote:

Crank wrote:

IF Trump is (a) still in office; and (b) wants to do so, it'll be Trump on the ticket for the Republicans.

IF he wants to? He filed for reelection the day after the inauguration!

That's before he realized presidenting was hard.

The reason he did that was so he could use campaign election funds. You can only do that if you have officially filed. He is using those funds to pay for ads, etc. to advocate his policies. It's sort of a back door way to lobby on his on behalf.

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Crank] [ In reply to ]

May 19, 17 11:56

Post #45 of 49 Views: 1917

Republican's, Kasich or Ben Sasse, R Senator from Nebraska. Trump, if around will not run again. Pence will be too tainted by Trump and won't run.

Sasse is smart, moderate and is able to speak to the middle of the country and the coasts. After Trump the media will have a hard time painting he or Kasich as being crazy right wingers or calling them out as the return of Hitler. Neither supported Trump. Sasse has already written a book so there is little doubt someone has his back and much like Obama, he seems to be coming from nowhere. After Trump I expect the Republican Party to unite under a normal candidate. And no, Paul Ryan will not run.

https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Vanishing_American_Adult.html?id=0FVFDQAAQBAJ&source=kp_cover

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Sasse

Democrats

Booker or some crazy left wing nutter like Sanders. Or Clinton comes back. No matter what, the Dems will be running an establishment candidate. The party has not figured out that they really screwed up. Thus all the blaming of others for their loss. And of course, you also have the Millennial SJW generation running around which will make it much harder for the Dems to find consensus.

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Travis R] [ In reply to ]

May 19, 17 21:34

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Travis R wrote:

How about someone like Andrew Cuomo for the Dems?

Former Indiana governor Mitch Daniels seemed to be pretty well-liked in Indiana. He seems like a relatively moderate Republican with business sense, but he'd be in his early 70s by 2020.

I like the idea of someone with:
- International business sense
- Served in the military

That's probably already asking too much.

Why is this important to some people? I often hear military record brought up, but what does it have to do with an ability to run a country?

Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [softrun] [ In reply to ]

May 20, 17 4:21

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I can't speak for anyone else, but only from my own experience as an ex-Marine. If someone is going to have power to make decisions on sending troops into battle (so not just the President), I feel they need to be sensitive to the long-term costs of the various damages of modern warfare.

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Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [Travis R] [ In reply to ]

May 20, 17 4:36

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Travis R wrote:

I can't speak for anyone else, but only from my own experience as an ex-Marine. If someone is going to have power to make decisions on sending troops into battle (so not just the President), I feel they need to be sensitive to the long-term costs of the various damages of modern warfare.

I guess Flynn is your guy then. He certainly has the international business experience.

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Re: So who runs for President in 2020? [klehner] [ In reply to ]

May 20, 17 10:12

Post #49 of 49 Views: 1781

It's quite a stretch to call him "my guy", but, if we didn't know what we know now, he looks like he'd be worth an initial interview.

Travis Rassat
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Noblesville, IN
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