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Trump's three main mouthpieces: Conway, Spicer, and Huckabee-Sanders
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They might just have the craziest and hardest jobs on the planet right now.

They're all pretty well educated and intelligent in their own thoughts but holy shit are they struggling with their assigned/mandated/voluntold tasks of doing Trump's bidding.

There's no way either of the three wake up excited to go to work each day. It's a day in and day out one-sided brawl that just can't be the least bit enjoyable. I get they want to stay viable in politics for whatever their reasons but this can't be worth it. I just don't see the upside in their respective positions. They're laughing stocks (right or wrong), potentially unhireable in the future, super stressful, and there is no way they believe half the BS they're spewing. Am I the only one who thinks they would all be better off leaving this circus and writing a book and making a few million bucks?

I'd be fascinated by a truthful and honest conversation with them.

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Re: Trump's three main mouthpieces: Conway, Spicer, and Huckabee-Sanders [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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Conway seems the craziest to me.
I dont think spicer actually believes half the shit that comes out of his mouth but hes smart enough to know what will happen to him the moment he steps out of line.

If he were to quit and write an honest behind the scenes book, he would make a fortune.

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Re: Trump's three main mouthpieces: Conway, Spicer, and Huckabee-Sanders [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah the only upside would be you could probably write a book later. Will be interesting who will be working for him in a few years. One would think it will get progressively less attractive

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Re: Trump's three main mouthpieces: Conway, Spicer, and Huckabee-Sanders [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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I just heard this for the first time the other day. When did this become a word?

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Re: Trump's three main mouthpieces: Conway, Spicer, and Huckabee-Sanders [TheRef65] [ In reply to ]
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I just heard this for the first time the other day. When did this become a word?

about a gagillion years ago.

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Re: Trump's three main mouthpieces: Conway, Spicer, and Huckabee-Sanders [TheRef65] [ In reply to ]
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voluntold

When did this become a word?

You may have two years where you'll - you understand the expression "vountold"?
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Re: Trump's three main mouthpieces: Conway, Spicer, and Huckabee-Sanders [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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They might just have the craziest and hardest jobs on the planet right now.

They're all pretty well educated and intelligent in their own thoughts but holy shit are they struggling with their assigned/mandated/voluntold tasks of doing Trump's bidding.

There's no way either of the three wake up excited to go to work each day. It's a day in and day out one-sided brawl that just can't be the least bit enjoyable. I get they want to stay viable in politics for whatever their reasons but this can't be worth it. I just don't see the upside in their respective positions. They're laughing stocks (right or wrong), potentially unhireable in the future, super stressful, and there is no way they believe half the BS they're spewing. Am I the only one who thinks they would all be better off leaving this circus and writing a book and making a few million bucks?

I'd be fascinated by a truthful and honest conversation with them.

The better question is when did the Republican party become about "party before country"?

No one has enough courage to tell the emperor that he has no clothes. Or maybe that explains why Comey got the axe.

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Re: Trump's three main mouthpieces: Conway, Spicer, and Huckabee-Sanders [len] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah the only upside would be you could probably write a book later. Will be interesting who will be working for him in a few years. One would think it will get progressively less attractive

I say again, the Rob Ford story is instructive here...

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Re: Trump's three main mouthpieces: Conway, Spicer, and Huckabee-Sanders [TheRef65] [ In reply to ]
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TheRef65 wrote:
The GMAN wrote:
voluntold


I just heard this for the first time the other day. When did this become a word?

Right after 'prime the pump' became a phrase.

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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Re: Trump's three main mouthpieces: Conway, Spicer, and Huckabee-Sanders [TheRef65] [ In reply to ]
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I think you get a pass on this if you don't have kids. That is who I heard it from.


TheRef65 wrote:
The GMAN wrote:
voluntold


I just heard this for the first time the other day. When did this become a word?

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Re: Trump's three main mouthpieces: Conway, Spicer, and Huckabee-Sanders [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
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JasoninHalifax wrote:
TheRef65 wrote:
The GMAN wrote:
voluntold


I just heard this for the first time the other day. When did this become a word?


about a gagillion years ago.

Wow, surprised I haven't heard this before. I"m not a young guy.

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Re: Trump's three main mouthpieces: Conway, Spicer, and Huckabee-Sanders [TheRef65] [ In reply to ]
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I've been using it for at least 20 years. So it's been around somewhat longer than that

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Re: Trump's three main mouthpieces: Conway, Spicer, and Huckabee-Sanders [len] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah the only upside would be you could probably write a book later. Will be interesting who will be working for him in a few years. One would think it will get progressively less attractive

I just don't see the appeal right now. I get the appeal a few months ago when they're thinking "I get to be the Counselor, Press Secretary, or Deputy Press Secretary to the POTUS" but holy shit have they gotten way more than I'm sure they bargained for with Trump. I don't get sticking around now and just repeating a Groundhog Day-esque reaming from the media. "Hey look, I get to go up on that podium again or on that news show again and spew a bunch of crap and get made fun of all week, and let it culminate with SNL making me look like an even bigger idiot. AWESOME!"

I'm really at the point where I feel bad for them. It's kind of crossed the line of funny and absurd to me and ventured into the sad. They are their own people though and are willingly doing it... I think. ;-)

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Re: Trump's three main mouthpieces: Conway, Spicer, and Huckabee-Sanders [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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Agree with just about everything you wrote, though I wouldn't be surprised if Conway actually buys into some of the stuff she's selling. Of the three of them, she seems to be the one most likely to be a true believer.

I chuckled when I saw that Melissa McCarthy took the Spicer-on-a-motorized-podium bit onto the streets of Manhattan today.


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Re: Trump's three main mouthpieces: Conway, Spicer, and Huckabee-Sanders [TheRef65] [ In reply to ]
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TheRef65 wrote:
JasoninHalifax wrote:
TheRef65 wrote:
The GMAN wrote:
voluntold


I just heard this for the first time the other day. When did this become a word?


about a gagillion years ago.


Wow, surprised I haven't heard this before. I"m not a young guy.

I'm not sure I heard it a lot (or ever) when I was in the corporate world but it became commonplace once I began working for the government. We get "voluntold" a lot.

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Re: Trump's three main mouthpieces: Conway, Spicer, and Huckabee-Sanders [wimsey] [ In reply to ]
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Agree with just about everything you wrote, though I wouldn't be surprised if Conway actually buys into some of the stuff she's selling. Of the three of them, she seems to be the one most likely to be a true believer.

I chuckled when I saw that Melissa McCarthy took the Spicer-on-a-motorized-podium bit onto the streets of Manhattan today.


I just watched the video of it. I almost lol'd.

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Re: Trump's three main mouthpieces: Conway, Spicer, and Huckabee-Sanders [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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The picture alone makes me laugh...
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Re: Trump's three main mouthpieces: Conway, Spicer, and Huckabee-Sanders [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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Which agency do you work for these days? Don't you indirectly report to the Don yourself, sorta kinda? These guys have only been on the job for 4 months. That's not even through the probationary period (making this shit up). If the rational plan is/was to write a bestseller about this, they are still gathering material. Everyone is aware that this is hardly the worst that will come out of that circus.
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Re: Trump's three main mouthpieces: Conway, Spicer, and Huckabee-Sanders [SailorSam] [ In reply to ]
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Which agency do you work for these days? Don't you indirectly report to the Don yourself, sorta kinda? These guys have only been on the job for 4 months. That's not even through the probationary period (making this shit up). If the rational plan is/was to write a bestseller about this, they are still gathering material. Everyone is aware that this is hardly the worst that will come out of that circus.

Yes, I'm in the Executive branch so the POTUS sits atop that hierarchy.

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Re: Trump's three main mouthpieces: Conway, Spicer, and Huckabee-Sanders [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
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about a gagillion years ago.


Yes, the same time that Trump came up with the term "Prime the pump". Trump probably came up with "Voluntold" to - you know, believe me, he's so terrific with words! :)


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Re: Trump's three main mouthpieces: Conway, Spicer, and Huckabee-Sanders [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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The GMAN wrote:
SailorSam wrote:
Which agency do you work for these days? Don't you indirectly report to the Don yourself, sorta kinda? These guys have only been on the job for 4 months. That's not even through the probationary period (making this shit up). If the rational plan is/was to write a bestseller about this, they are still gathering material. Everyone is aware that this is hardly the worst that will come out of that circus.


Yes, I'm in the Executive branch so the POTUS sits atop that hierarchy.

How do you feel about the Comey firing? Is the agency really in "turmoil"?

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Re: Trump's three main mouthpieces: Conway, Spicer, and Huckabee-Sanders [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
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JasoninHalifax wrote:
I've been using it for at least 20 years. So it's been around somewhat longer than that

Yeah, my son came home from basic @ Valcatraz and that word was pretty much standard vocab for him - apparently he was volun-told to do a lot of things.
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Re: Trump's three main mouthpieces: Conway, Spicer, and Huckabee-Sanders [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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CaptainCanada wrote:
The GMAN wrote:
SailorSam wrote:
Which agency do you work for these days? Don't you indirectly report to the Don yourself, sorta kinda? These guys have only been on the job for 4 months. That's not even through the probationary period (making this shit up). If the rational plan is/was to write a bestseller about this, they are still gathering material. Everyone is aware that this is hardly the worst that will come out of that circus.


Yes, I'm in the Executive branch so the POTUS sits atop that hierarchy.


How do you feel about the Comey firing? Is the agency really in "turmoil"?

I really liked the guy and that was the overall opinion of him throughout the Bureau despite the BS you're hearing from the White House. Some of his actions regarding the Hillary/election related stuff was a little head scratching but I do understand why he felt compelled to do what he did. That Lynch meeting with Bill Clinton really put Comey in a bad spot.

He always came across as a really honest guy who put integrity and "the right thing" above his own personal stuff. I felt he was doing what was right for the Bureau first and foremost. I met the guy three times, and thought he was very genuine and he really cared about the people who worked for him. Which was a stark contrast to Mueller who I thought was a complete jerkoff and didn't give a flip about the 35,000 people that worked for him. I couldn't wait for him to no longer be my boss. That was a long 12 years. I'm truly saddened by Comey's departure. It's a significant loss. Hopefully his successor is more like him than Mueller.

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Re: Trump's three main mouthpieces: Conway, Spicer, and Huckabee-Sanders [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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The GMAN wrote:
CaptainCanada wrote:
The GMAN wrote:
SailorSam wrote:
Which agency do you work for these days? Don't you indirectly report to the Don yourself, sorta kinda? These guys have only been on the job for 4 months. That's not even through the probationary period (making this shit up). If the rational plan is/was to write a bestseller about this, they are still gathering material. Everyone is aware that this is hardly the worst that will come out of that circus.


Yes, I'm in the Executive branch so the POTUS sits atop that hierarchy.


How do you feel about the Comey firing? Is the agency really in "turmoil"?

I really liked the guy and that was the overall opinion of him throughout the Bureau despite the BS you're hearing from the White House. Some of his actions regarding the Hillary/election related stuff was a little head scratching but I do understand why he felt compelled to do what he did. That Lynch meeting with Bill Clinton really put Comey in a bad spot.

He always came across as a really honest guy who put integrity and "the right thing" above his own personal stuff. I felt he was doing what was right for the Bureau first and foremost. I met the guy three times, and thought he was very genuine and he really cared about the people who worked for him. Which was a stark contrast to Mueller who I thought was a complete jerkoff and didn't give a flip about the 35,000 people that worked for him. I couldn't wait for him to no longer be my boss. That was a long 12 years. I'm truly saddened by Comey's departure. It's a significant loss. Hopefully his successor is more like him than Mueller.

Thanks for answering. Always nice to hear the inside scoop. Between the Orange one and the "fake news" it is really difficult to get the facts.

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Re: Trump's three main mouthpieces: Conway, Spicer, and Huckabee-Sanders [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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http://www.cnn.com/...mp-russia/index.html


I think that article does a good job summing up the feelings about Comey within the Bureau. He was certainly universally well liked prior to all the Hillary stuff, to which he may have lost favor with those more to the far right or left political leanings.

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Re: Trump's three main mouthpieces: Conway, Spicer, and Huckabee-Sanders [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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Have you seen the clips of Conway when she was a paid shill for the Cruz campaign? It's the last time you'll hear her describe Trump and his behavior accurately.

I get why media outlets would want to speak with Spicer and Huckabee, given their positions. Of course they're paid to spin, but at least you know you're getting the message POTUS is putting out at that particular point in time. Conway, OTOH, has no informational or newsworthy value whatsoever. She's useful to the outlets who interview her solely for the potential for controversy, and for no other purpose. Which is to say, she is the story they're covering when she makes an appearance.

People like her need to be put on media blackout. In her current form, she's not newsworthy.

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Have you seen the clips of Conway when she was a paid shill for the Cruz campaign? It's the last time you'll hear her describe Trump and his behavior accurately.

I get why media outlets would want to speak with Spicer and Huckabee, given their positions. Of course they're paid to spin, but at least you know you're getting the message POTUS is putting out at that particular point in time. Conway, OTOH, has no informational or newsworthy value whatsoever. She's useful to the outlets who interview her solely for the potential for controversy, and for no other purpose. Which is to say, she is the story they're covering when she makes an appearance.

People like her need to be put on media blackout. In her current form, she's not newsworthy.

Did you watch the recent clip of anderson cooper interviewing her? His eye rolls were long overdue.

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Yeah. And she promptly accused him of sexism.

I thought the snowflakes played for the other team?

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Yeah. And she promptly accused him of sexism.

I thought the snowflakes played for the other team?

Her absurdity seems endless.

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Conway: Trump Victims Include “Victims Of Trump University, Victims Of Trump In Atlantic City.” Conway praised anti-Trump messaging, saying it’s that “gotten better” because people are “starting to talk about victims of Trump University, victims of Trump in Atlantic City.” Conway also continued highlighting Trump’s hypocrisy in claiming that he is “for the little guy,” when really he has built his business “on the backs of the little guy.” From the March 8 edition of CNN’s At This Hour:

Conway: “I Would Like To See” Trump’s Tax Returns “Be Transparent.” Conway criticized Trump’s failure to release his tax returns, saying, “I would like to see those be transparent.” She also castigated Trump’s “unpresidential” rhetoric, referencing the time when he “insulted [his opponents] as ‘lying Ted’ and John Kasich ‘who eats like this slob.’” From the April 25 edition of CNN Tonight with Don Lemon:

Conway Condemned Trump For “Hurl[ing] Personal Insults” And Using “Vulgar” Language That Was “Unfortunate For Children.” Conway reprimanded Trump for using “the p-word” at a rally, language she characterized as “unfortunate for children,” and claimed that voters “will think thrice now when they go into the ballot box.” From the February 9 edition of CNN Newsroom with Carol Costello:

Conway: Trump “Can Whine And Complain” By Saying “The System Is Rigged,” But “There’s No Place In Politics For Accusing Folks Of Using Gestapo Tactics.” Conway mocked Trump’s complaints after he lost the Colorado primary that “the system is rigged, the system is corrupt,” sayng, “You can whine and complain all you want,” but “you didn’t know the rules.” She also attacked the Trump campaign’s claim that Colorado winner Sen. Ted Cruz used “Gestapo tactics,” saying “there’s no place in politics” for those comments. Conway also denounced Trump ally Roger Stone for attempting to intimidate delegates, saying Trump should tell him “to cut the crap.” From the April 13 edition of CNN Tonight with Don Lemon:

Conway Accused The Trump Campaign Of Becoming Too “Cozy With The Establishment”: “Goodness, You’ve Hired Paul Manafort.” Conway charged the Trump campaign with “becoming a little cozy with the establishment” by hiring Paul Manafort as chairman. From the April 4 edition of CNN’s At This Hour:

Conway: Trump's “False” Accusations About The Cruz Campaign Show “The Danger Of Just Saying Things That Aren't True." Conway rebuked Trump for lobbing “personal insults at somebody’s wife” as well as for his accusations that Cruz was “committing a felony and breaking a law,” adding that such a comment reveals “the danger of just saying things that aren’t true.” From the April 6 edition of CNN’s Erin Burnett Outfront:

Conway: Unlike Trump, “Pro-Life Candidates” “Don’t Need Four Or Five Times To Get It Right.” Conway disavowed Trump’s suggestion that there should be some form of punishment for women who have abortions, arguing that he had “upended” decades of work by pro-lifers, and she implied that real pro-life candidates “would have gotten [the question] right the first time.” She also criticized Trump’s “free earned media coverage” and said, “If you live by the media questions, sometimes you have to die by the media questions.” From the March 30 edition of CNN Tonight with Don Lemon:

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Re: Trump's three main mouthpieces: Conway, Spicer, and Huckabee-Sanders [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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They have the worst jobs in America right now. Basically, the job right now is about showing loyalty to the President and justifying his latest BS. Clearly within the administration they're not entirely sure what to do with Conway - she was the leading spokesperson for a while till the 'alternative facts' thing (have to say, I thought that was genius) blew up in her face. When she was on Cruz' campaign she was clearly outspoken about Trump; I think she is probably much smarter than we are giving her credit for, but she is extremely loyal to her bosses and therefore tries to justify whatever shit is thrown at her. I think her biggest problem is she's had terrible bosses though - with creepy Cruz and then Trump. Had she put her energy into being a spokesperson for something good (NGO, Charity, ...) she probably could have been much more respected.
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Re: Trump's three main mouthpieces: Conway, Spicer, and Huckabee-Sanders [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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     Might deserve it's own thread, but the choice of a new director seems like a pretty big deal. I hope MaCabe is not that choice, as he has a serious conflict of interest, with a wife who, just after the Hillary investigation was announced, was tagged to run as a dem and received close to 3/4 of a million dollars from the dem party, most of it from Clinton ally Terry McAuliffe's PAC. MaCabe also checked the legality (not required by OGE), and decided not to mention this glaring conflict on his financial disclosure forms. Just looks like the same dirty DC pol behavior in action, and I'd rather not have a guy I thought that of going in.
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I hadn't heard that about McCabe, though I didn't presume he'd take the reins for any lengthy time anyway. He's reportedly very good at what he does, so he should probably continue in that role.

It will be interesting to see who he nominates, and if the Democrats can find a way to support the nomination. Obviously someone like Gowdy or Giuliani would be a deal breaker for them, and possibly even some Republicans (Giuliani in particular, who appears a caricature of his former self lately).

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Re: Trump's three main mouthpieces: Conway, Spicer, and Huckabee-Sanders [The GMAN] [ In reply to ]
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Which was a stark contrast to Mueller who I thought was a complete jerkoff and didn't give a flip about the 35,000 people that worked for him. I couldn't wait for him to no longer be my boss. That was a long 12 years. I'm truly saddened by Comey's departure. It's a significant loss. Hopefully his successor is more like him than Mueller.

And look who was appointed special counsel by DoJ...

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The GMAN wrote:
Which was a stark contrast to Mueller who I thought was a complete jerkoff and didn't give a flip about the 35,000 people that worked for him. I couldn't wait for him to no longer be my boss. That was a long 12 years. I'm truly saddened by Comey's departure. It's a significant loss. Hopefully his successor is more like him than Mueller.


And look who was appointed special counsel by DoJ...
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Comey sure seemed to highly esteem Mueller. On the Comey front, people should take a closer look at his years as leader before lionizing the man. Several instances where he failed to follow lines he probably should have during his short tenure, and his leadership of the Clinton email investigation was nothing short of incompetent.
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klehner wrote:
The GMAN wrote:
Which was a stark contrast to Mueller who I thought was a complete jerkoff and didn't give a flip about the 35,000 people that worked for him. I couldn't wait for him to no longer be my boss. That was a long 12 years. I'm truly saddened by Comey's departure. It's a significant loss. Hopefully his successor is more like him than Mueller.


And look who was appointed special counsel by DoJ...

I'm fine with that. He was by all accounts a fine prosecutor in his day.

He just sucked at being an FBI Director.

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