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I had a conversation with a client yesterday who spent 10 minutes regaling me with a story about his latest high end pen purchase, upon which he spent approx. $5,000. He's pretty rich so he has the cash to indulge the hobby, but I just don't get the underlying fascination, upon which this dude has spent many, many thousands of dollars. I get spending a bit more for a decent pen that works right, but the concept of 'fancy' pens just seems ludicrous to me, and collecting them even more of a head-scratcher.

Similar reaction to a friend of mine who's a sneaker head - she's got upwards of 200 pairs of sneakers at last count, and she acknowledges that some of them she's unlikely to ever wear.

This is a different reaction for me than hobbies like golf. I don't like golf, I think it's sort of silly, but I get that it's attractive to some people due to it being a combo of physical and mental practice, gets you outside, is sociable, etc.

What else is out there that makes you go 'huh?'
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [wimsey] [ In reply to ]
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That people pay $3-5-8-10,000 for a bicycle.
Or pay $800 to participate in an event called a race where most people aren't racing, they are surviving...barely
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [Trispoke] [ In reply to ]
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The obvious answer for this forum, of course. But I 'get' that one, to an extent. I used to race tris, was a decently competitive age-grouper, spent a bit more on my first bike than I probably needed to. I never went totally off the deep end, but I can understand the underlying attraction.
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [wimsey] [ In reply to ]
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The popularity of fantasy football amazes me.

And people who are deep into cosplay.








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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [vitus979] [ In reply to ]
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Fantasy sports is a good one. I don't get that either.

In re: cosplay, I used to work with this guy's wife; nice dude but his campaign got shellacked when this story broke: http://gawker.com/...splay-rap-1556185389
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [wimsey] [ In reply to ]
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Stamp collecting always was weird to me, but then again I collected comics and baseball cards, but I was also younger than 15. My cousin, who I have talked about here, never quit collecting comics or lego sets for that matter. Such a man child despite having grey hair and having a stroke.


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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [wimsey] [ In reply to ]
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Similar to the pen one, expensive watches as a collection. People have posted on here before, $5K, $10K watches.

Anything that's insanely expensive as a collectible, I'll just never ever get. On top of that, stamp collections, coins, cards of any sort (baseball, pokemon, etc). I guess I don't see the point to 'collecting' anything that you dust off every few months or few years and...look at, I guess?
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [wimsey] [ In reply to ]
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Wine in both the sense owning wine you don't drink and the marginal return on enjoyment/ taste between a 100 and 1000 dollar bottle
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [Brownie28] [ In reply to ]
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Yup, watches are in there for me too, especially since the fancy ones seem to keep poorer time than a decent (and decent looking) battery operated one that you can get for a few hundred bucks.

I collected baseball cards casually as a kid, but mostly because my friends did and collecting/trading them gave us something to do as a group. I think my collection got ditched when I moved out of my parents' house.
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [windywave] [ In reply to ]
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windywave wrote:
Wine in both the sense owning wine you don't drink and the marginal return on enjoyment/ taste between a 100 and 1000 dollar bottle

Maybe some people do it as an investment, like art purchases that just sit in a bonded warehouse somewhere in Switzerland (?)
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [Brownie28] [ In reply to ]
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I collect guns. I've paid 600-900 for some items I just wanted and only shot a couple times.


"In the world I see you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Towers. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying stripes of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway." T Durden
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [TheForge] [ In reply to ]
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TheForge wrote:
I collect guns. I've paid 600-900 for some items I just wanted and only shot a couple times.

Until you reach this guy's level, you're just junior varsity ;) http://khon2.com/...alifornia-mans-home/
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [wimsey] [ In reply to ]
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I don't get the appeal of "faux" place like Vegas, Disneyland, etc.

I've got a high school acquaintance that appears to take a trip or two a year to the Disney place in Florida. Will talk about how great it was to have his daughters picture taken with this or that princess after they waited in line for an hour or two.

I don't get the appeal of going to some vacation spot with a billion other people.

Those are my biggest head scratchers.
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [wimsey] [ In reply to ]
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For me it's mostly sports that I don't get - football, hockey, ... wrestling... golf...

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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [windywave] [ In reply to ]
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windywave wrote:
Wine in both the sense owning wine you don't drink and the marginal return on enjoyment/ taste between a 100 and 1000 dollar bottle

Or a 10 and 100 dollar bottle...

My friend is an online card dealer. Many of his biggest sellers are not even sport related, but things like actors and such. Other than a Ben Rothlesberger, the most expensive card he ever sold was for a cricket player to some guy in Australia. Neither of us believe that he can make a decent living selling that crap.
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [ThisIsIt] [ In reply to ]
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My wife and I went to the Universal theme park in Orlando when we had a day to kill during a trip. The roller coasters were fun, and the Harry Potter area was kind of neat. Wouldn't have gone out of our way to visit though, and I definitely wouldn't be interested in serial visits. Those places kill your soul even when you're having fun.
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [wimsey] [ In reply to ]
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wimsey wrote:
TheForge wrote:
I collect guns. I've paid 600-900 for some items I just wanted and only shot a couple times.


Until you reach this guy's level, you're just junior varsity ;)http://khon2.com/...alifornia-mans-home/[/quote[/url]]

Wow, that's weird. I wonder how many weren't California compliant. That dude could have armed the eventual (long overdue) insurrection of California.


"In the world I see you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Towers. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying stripes of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway." T Durden
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [tigerchik] [ In reply to ]
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People who are avid spectators of golf - what the hell is that about.
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [wimsey] [ In reply to ]
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I don't get collecting things of any kind. I'm not wired to collect things that aren't going to have a function. That function can be practical or decorative (like most people, we have a bunch of artwork in our home), but to have it sit in a box or closet somewhere? Nah.

eg watches. I have a nice watch, a Rolex of some sort from 1993, it was a graduation / birthday gift to me from my parents. No idea what it is worth, nor do I care. I will always have that, and value it, because it is from them. but to go and collect rolex's, nah....

Guns I don't get. (I've gone shooting once, it was meh). Gambling I don't get (same). Or anything to excess.

I don't get the obsession with televised sports of any sort.

I think my problem is that I get bored with too much of anything.

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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [ThisIsIt] [ In reply to ]
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I don't either. Have a family friend that goes there once a year. We're talking the whole shebang. With on site resorts and 7000 in costs. They have kids, I guess a kids joy makes it worth it. We went to Disney one day a few weeks back, between that and having held passes, I'm over that place for a while.

On another note, there always seem to be weirdoes there. I assume a lot of them are pedophiles. There just isn't something write about a grown man with long hair, mustache, sunglasses and a coat on a warm day hanging out at Disney alone with an SLR camera around his neck. And it never fails, that type of guy or many of them are always there. There was a guy in line in front of us last time that I didn't want looking at my kids. Described as above, but also wearing R2-D2 mickey mouse ears and carrying a backpack probably containing toys to lure his victim to a quite place. Weird.


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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [wimsey] [ In reply to ]
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I know a guy who's been collecting Playboy magazines since the 70s. This seemed like a great idea before the invent of the internet, now less so. Worse, he didn't store them in any sort of protection. He put them in boxes in the basement, which are all moldy (possibly worse).

My mom decided that, since I'm a Star Wars fan, she would purchase me each and every action figure from the prequels. Why? Because she heard that they might be worth something in 40 years.

Another family member collected beanie babies for a while. She gave me one. I cut the tag and used it as a dog toy, not knowing what they were. I got blasted because that one was apparently 'rare' and might be worth something. The dog loved it.






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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [Tri-Banter] [ In reply to ]
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<<Another family member collected beanie babies for a while. She gave me one. I cut the tag and used it as a dog toy, not knowing what they were. I got blasted because that one was apparently 'rare' and might be worth something. The dog loved it.>>



Ha! Best use for them, IMO. I remember when the beanie baby thing was big - seemed pretty silly at the time, even more so now.

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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [wimsey] [ In reply to ]
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wimsey wrote:
People who are avid spectators of golf - what the hell is that about.
drinking
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [SkipG] [ In reply to ]
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SkipG wrote:
wimsey wrote:
People who are avid spectators of golf - what the hell is that about.
drinking

That's a different hobby. I get that one :)
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [wimsey] [ In reply to ]
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Bronies.

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [wimsey] [ In reply to ]
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Golf is a game you can improve in by osmosis. By grandpa was a pro golfer, tour pro in the 50's. So he we went to every tournament within 4 hours drive to spectate. I think it was an excuse to gamble and drink a lot. He had long passed his prime of fucking anything that resembled a woman.


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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [Brownie28] [ In reply to ]
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Similar to the pen one, expensive watches as a collection.

Pens and watches are quite similar in that the high end represent a level of craftsmanship, engineering, and artistry that aren't found in more common versions.

A nice minute repeater has hundreds of tiny parts (gears, screws, springs), that all have to fit and work together it's amazing.

Some friends of mine are collectors, and I looked into it. After reading up on the development of the pallet lever escapement and accurate time keeping, and seeing what goes into making even a basic mechanical watch, made me appreciate it. Watch the A&E movie Longitude if you get a chance.

High end fountain pens are less complicated, but the effort and skill that goes into making them is impressive. The YouTube videos are mesmerizing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCFWyIm73A8

To me, at least they have some intrinsic value, not as time keepers are writing instruments because much less expensive alternatives can do a better job. The labor and skill needed to create then, cannot be duplicated cheaply.

Things I don't understand, are Beenie Babies, or collector edition anythings. This are common, easy to reproduce items that are artificially limited to try to create demand.
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [Duffy] [ In reply to ]
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Duffy wrote:
Bronies.

Yup. For me that goes past 'huh?' And right to 'that shit ain't right.'
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [efernand] [ In reply to ]
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efernand wrote:
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Similar to the pen one, expensive watches as a collection.


Pens and watches are quite similar in that the high end represent a level of craftsmanship, engineering, and artistry that aren't found in more common versions.
Sure, I get (and appreciate) the craftsmanship of fine watches and pens, I don't understanding the ownership of said craftsmanship, at the expense of thousands or even tens of thousands of dollars.

To each their own, I'll never begrudge people their interests and how they spend their money, but per the thread title I just don't get it. I could be a billionaire and I'd never care to spend more than a few hundred on a reliable, decent looking watch, and I can't see ever spending more than the few bucks my local CVS charges for BIC pens.
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [wimsey] [ In reply to ]
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Harley riders, LARPers and pretty much all sports fans.

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [tigerchik] [ In reply to ]
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tigerchik wrote:
For me it's mostly sports that I don't get - football, hockey, ... wrestling... golf...

Serious question... what's not to get about hockey? Put puck past goalie into net. That's called a goal. Most goals wins.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [efernand] [ In reply to ]
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efernand wrote:
High end fountain pens are less complicated, but the effort and skill that goes into making them is impressive. The YouTube videos are mesmerizing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCFWyIm73A8
Also, just watched that video...very cool process. I love art and designing cool handcrafted pieces like that, I've long said that in retirement I really want to create a small village of people, shops, trains, etc. The artistry isn't lost on me...BUT I'd love to create that art, not spend thousands of dollars for someone to do it for me. Again, to each their own, but a pen is a tool and I don't care what it looks like, as long as it writes.
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [Brownie28] [ In reply to ]
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Brownie28 wrote:
efernand wrote:
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Similar to the pen one, expensive watches as a collection.


Pens and watches are quite similar in that the high end represent a level of craftsmanship, engineering, and artistry that aren't found in more common versions.

Sure, I get (and appreciate) the craftsmanship of fine watches and pens, I don't understanding the ownership of said craftsmanship, at the expense of thousands or even tens of thousands of dollars.

To each their own, I'll never begrudge people their interests and how they spend their money, but per the thread title I just don't get it. I could be a billionaire and I'd never care to spend more than a few hundred on a reliable, decent looking watch, and I can't see ever spending more than the few bucks my local CVS charges for BIC pens.

So your issue is with the money spent? If it were all free then fine... collect away.
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [BLeP] [ In reply to ]
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BLeP wrote:
tigerchik wrote:
For me it's mostly sports that I don't get - football, hockey, ... wrestling... golf...


Serious question... what's not to get about hockey? Put puck past goalie into net. That's called a goal. Most goals wins.

Why do they need to fight? Where is fighting in the puck/goal relationship?
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [Old Hickory] [ In reply to ]
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I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out. I got out of hockey when the fighting started.


Old Hickory wrote:
BLeP wrote:
tigerchik wrote:
For me it's mostly sports that I don't get - football, hockey, ... wrestling... golf...


Serious question... what's not to get about hockey? Put puck past goalie into net. That's called a goal. Most goals wins.


Why do they need to fight? Where is fighting in the puck/goal relationship?

They constantly try to escape from the darkness outside and within
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [Old Hickory] [ In reply to ]
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Old Hickory wrote:
BLeP wrote:
tigerchik wrote:
For me it's mostly sports that I don't get - football, hockey, ... wrestling... golf...


Serious question... what's not to get about hockey? Put puck past goalie into net. That's called a goal. Most goals wins.


Why do they need to fight? Where is fighting in the puck/goal relationship?

Because that guy pissed me off. Or I was bored.

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [BLeP] [ In reply to ]
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BLeP wrote:
tigerchik wrote:
For me it's mostly sports that I don't get - football, hockey, ... wrestling... golf...

Serious question... what's not to get about hockey? Put puck past goalie into net. That's called a goal. Most goals wins.

Well what's with the skates?

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [Old Hickory] [ In reply to ]
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Old Hickory wrote:
BLeP wrote:
tigerchik wrote:
For me it's mostly sports that I don't get - football, hockey, ... wrestling... golf...


Serious question... what's not to get about hockey? Put puck past goalie into net. That's called a goal. Most goals wins.


Why do they need to fight? Where is fighting in the puck/goal relationship?

They don't. It's stupid and mostly it has been eliminated from the game.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [Duffy] [ In reply to ]
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Duffy wrote:
BLeP wrote:
tigerchik wrote:
For me it's mostly sports that I don't get - football, hockey, ... wrestling... golf...


Serious question... what's not to get about hockey? Put puck past goalie into net. That's called a goal. Most goals wins.


Well what's with the skates?

It's easier to move around on the ice in skates.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [wimsey] [ In reply to ]
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Your question would cover most hobbies. If you aren't into the hobby, you think those guys are weird.

I laugh because I have a lot of hobbies that attract a lot of weirdos/dorks. That's fine, if I'm the weirdo I don't really care. We do hobbies because it amuses us. Not for whether or not anyone else gives a damn.

I garden a lot. But given the time I put in it would be cheaper to buy the vegetables.

I have 50+ varieties of roses. No one but me, my wife, and my dogs ever goes into my yard.

I have north of 70 species of trees on my property, again, for myself.

I collect coins. I like history and it amuses me. I will never sell my coin collection and none of my nieces and nephews will give a damn when I die. When I'm old I'd love to be able to find someone young that is into coin collecting and start giving them the collection piece by piece.

I collect arrowheads and other American Indian artifacts. See above re: coins.

I golf. I suck. No one cares

I do triathlon. I'm old and I suck. No one cares.

I do woodworking. See above re:gardening.

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [wimsey] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [BLeP] [ In reply to ]
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I understand how hockey works, I just don't get excited about it.

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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [BLeP] [ In reply to ]
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BLeP wrote:
Duffy wrote:
BLeP wrote:
tigerchik wrote:
For me it's mostly sports that I don't get - football, hockey, ... wrestling... golf...


Serious question... what's not to get about hockey? Put puck past goalie into net. That's called a goal. Most goals wins.


Well what's with the skates?

It's easier to move around on the ice in skates.

Curlers don't need no stinking skates.

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

- Chinese proverb
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [wimsey] [ In reply to ]
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My wife collects, sells, and trades vintage Pyrex cookware. I had no idea it was a "thing" but apparently some pieces go for thousands of dollars.
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [Duffy] [ In reply to ]
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Duffy wrote:
BLeP wrote:
Duffy wrote:
BLeP wrote:
tigerchik wrote:
For me it's mostly sports that I don't get - football, hockey, ... wrestling... golf...


Serious question... what's not to get about hockey? Put puck past goalie into net. That's called a goal. Most goals wins.


Well what's with the skates?


It's easier to move around on the ice in skates.


Curlers don't need no stinking skates.

No sir. They also walk.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [tigerchik] [ In reply to ]
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tigerchik wrote:
I understand how hockey works, I just don't get excited about it.

Because you're stupid.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [j p o] [ In reply to ]
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It doesn't cover most hobbies from my perspective. See my OP regarding golf. I don't like golf but I can understand what others get out of it. Same with gardening. My brother in law collects arrowheads that he finds in his area, for similar reasons as you - I get that too, even though it's not a hobby that pumps me up.

Frickin' $5000 pens? No idea what the appeal is. Like I said, client has the cash to do it, so if it blows his skirt up, that's cool. I just do not understand it.
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [Ringmaster] [ In reply to ]
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Ringmaster wrote:
My wife collects, sells, and trades vintage Pyrex cookware. I had no idea it was a "thing" but apparently some pieces go for thousands of dollars.

I have had two Pyrex cookware items break in the oven whilst cooking. One cracked right down the middle, the other practically exploded.

Pieces of shit.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [Ringmaster] [ In reply to ]
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Ringmaster wrote:
My wife collects, sells, and trades vintage Pyrex cookware. I had no idea it was a "thing" but apparently some pieces go for thousands of dollars.

Good one. Never knew it was a thing either.
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [Old Hickory] [ In reply to ]
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Old Hickory wrote:
Brownie28 wrote:
efernand wrote:
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Similar to the pen one, expensive watches as a collection.


Pens and watches are quite similar in that the high end represent a level of craftsmanship, engineering, and artistry that aren't found in more common versions.

Sure, I get (and appreciate) the craftsmanship of fine watches and pens, I don't understanding the ownership of said craftsmanship, at the expense of thousands or even tens of thousands of dollars.

To each their own, I'll never begrudge people their interests and how they spend their money, but per the thread title I just don't get it. I could be a billionaire and I'd never care to spend more than a few hundred on a reliable, decent looking watch, and I can't see ever spending more than the few bucks my local CVS charges for BIC pens.


So your issue is with the money spent? If it were all free then fine... collect away.
No, but the OP mentioned pens and I brought up watches, and as I said it's just strange to me that people would spend that much money collecting fancy trinkets. I also mentioned stamps and coins and cards, all those collector items - which I consider pens and watches that aren't everyday items to be - just strike me as odd, and not an appealing 'hobby'. The pens/watches are doubly strange because of the enormous expense of them.
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [wimsey] [ In reply to ]
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What else is out there that makes you go 'huh?'

Posting in the LR. Shit makes no sense to me!

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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [BLeP] [ In reply to ]
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BLeP wrote:
Duffy wrote:
BLeP wrote:
Duffy wrote:
BLeP wrote:
tigerchik wrote:
For me it's mostly sports that I don't get - football, hockey, ... wrestling... golf...


Serious question... what's not to get about hockey? Put puck past goalie into net. That's called a goal. Most goals wins.


Well what's with the skates?


It's easier to move around on the ice in skates.


Curlers don't need no stinking skates.

No sir. They also walk.

Well, duh. If they ran they'd probably fall and hurt themselves. Ice is slippery.

Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.

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Wine in both the sense owning wine you don't drink and the marginal return on enjoyment/ taste between a 100 and 1000 dollar bottle

Maybe some people do it as an investment, like art purchases that just sit in a bonded warehouse somewhere in Switzerland (?)

I don't think that's analogous though.
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Your question would cover most hobbies. If you aren't into the hobby, you think those guys are weird.

I laugh because I have a lot of hobbies that attract a lot of weirdos/dorks. That's fine, if I'm the weirdo I don't really care. We do hobbies because it amuses us. Not for whether or not anyone else gives a damn.

I garden a lot. But given the time I put in it would be cheaper to buy the vegetables.


I have 50+ varieties of roses. No one but me, my wife, and my dogs ever goes into my yard.

I have north of 70 species of trees on my property, again, for myself.

I collect coins. I like history and it amuses me. I will never sell my coin collection and none of my nieces and nephews will give a damn when I die. When I'm old I'd love to be able to find someone young that is into coin collecting and start giving them the collection piece by piece.

I collect arrowheads and other American Indian artifacts. See above re: coins.

I golf. I suck. No one cares

I do triathlon. I'm old and I suck. No one cares.

I do woodworking. See above re:gardening.

I get asked if it is cheaper to reload, and per round and component, probably. But it becomes a hobby of its own. I have tailored ammo to my interest, but after buying the equipment (loader, powder scale, dies, chronograph, etc) I'm still underwater despite loading thousands of rounds over the years. But it is more accurate, consistent, and it allows me to make more ammo that might be expensive. I can make 20 rounds of speciality ammo I can certainly buy for about the same cost as making typical range plinking stuff. Meaning it cost less than bulk range ammo at the store.

But here is the reality. I started shooting again before I got my reloader back up again. It doesn't save you money. Instead, of going to the range once or twice a month for a couple hours each go and maybe 40 rounds of rifle and 50 rounds of pistol. I go weekly, and shoot 100 pistol rounds and 40 - 80 rounds of rifle. Being a member of a club with a 1150 yard range means I go and do my 40-80 rifle rounds and 100 pistol rounds on a steal target, then go up to the long range platform if nobody is there and run 10-20 rounds of match grade ammo that I made for a few cents a round that would have cost me 30 bucks for 20.

I'm not saving money, I'm shooting a lot more. And the volume is paying off but I'm spending more money to. I was good 6 years ago, training once or twice a month (didn't go often since my club was an hour away from home). I maintained better than average competency over the last few years where I went maybe once very 2-3 months, shooting almost only pistol. But now, we'll see. The leagues here are tougher.


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dry heat wrote:
windywave wrote:
Wine in both the sense owning wine you don't drink and the marginal return on enjoyment/ taste between a 100 and 1000 dollar bottle

Or a 10 and 100 dollar bottle...

My friend is an online card dealer. Many of his biggest sellers are not even sport related, but things like actors and such. Other than a Ben Rothlesberger, the most expensive card he ever sold was for a cricket player to some guy in Australia. Neither of us believe that he can make a decent living selling that crap.

There's a definite difference (usually) between 10 and 100. I've had some mid 00s wine (other people's wine) and didn't see that big a difference.
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windywave wrote:
wimsey wrote:
windywave wrote:
Wine in both the sense owning wine you don't drink and the marginal return on enjoyment/ taste between a 100 and 1000 dollar bottle


Maybe some people do it as an investment, like art purchases that just sit in a bonded warehouse somewhere in Switzerland (?)


I don't think that's analogous though.

No, it's not. I was speculating on why people might own wine they don't drink. People who own it just to own it, not drink it or let it appreciate monetarily - yah, that's a bit of a head scratcher to me.

Agree with you on the dollar value differences too. Difference between a $10 bottle and $100 can be enormous (as can the difference in the hangover, or lack thereof). $100-$1000 spread, much more tenuous ROI at least to my civilian palate. I've not had a lot of wine that costs over $200/bottle (always on someone else's dime), but when I have it's been very nice, but I'd have been just as happy with a $75 one.
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Longaberger, or whatever it is called. They make baskets. When I lived with my fiancé and her best friend in college, the best friend collected them. How many mini-baskets can one own? I think the company building is shaped like one to.

Yep.




"In the world I see you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Towers. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying stripes of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway." T Durden
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A lady I recently worked with described herself as being into "recreational baking."

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There you go. Hard core collecting of anything. People that are obsessed with any sport to the point of knowing every players stats. I understand high precision mechanical items but not the paying of astronomical sums for them. This can be exemplified by watches, audio equipment, cars, etc. Don't forget jewelry. Tens of thousands or more for a shiny bauble?
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Longaberger, or whatever it is called. They make baskets. When I lived with my fiancé and her best friend in college, the best friend collected them. How many mini-baskets can one own? I think the company building is shaped like one to.

Yep.

<<How many mini-baskets can one own?>>

You tell me, you're the one that lived with the basket hoarder...

Looks like this architectural gem has fallen out of favor with the basket overlords. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/07/13/longaberger-empties-its-famous-ohio-basket-building/87055526/
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Ringmaster wrote:
My wife collects, sells, and trades vintage Pyrex cookware. I had no idea it was a "thing" but apparently some pieces go for thousands of dollars.


I have had two Pyrex cookware items break in the oven whilst cooking. One cracked right down the middle, the other practically exploded.

Pieces of shit.

You must have missed the vintage part. FYI, Pyrex switched from using borosilicate glass to tempered soda lime glass after Corning sold the brand in the 90's. Definitely not the same anymore.
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She was a poor college student, so she had maybe 10, that is 9 too fucking many. And I'm just being nice. There are people who get these monthly. LIke a basket of the month crap. That would be twelve in a year. Maybe a bonus one for Christmas. I mean, what do you put in these things. Teddy Bears, sackets of potpourri? Sex toys? I think they even make scented baskets.

Funny thing though, I think that building was foreclosed on.

Something like that. Couldn't afford it after sales dropped.

http://www.kansascity.com/...article89339292.html

Take a look at the Yogi Bear tweet.


"In the world I see you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Towers. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying stripes of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway." T Durden
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Ringmaster wrote:
BLeP wrote:
Ringmaster wrote:
My wife collects, sells, and trades vintage Pyrex cookware. I had no idea it was a "thing" but apparently some pieces go for thousands of dollars.


I have had two Pyrex cookware items break in the oven whilst cooking. One cracked right down the middle, the other practically exploded.

Pieces of shit.

You must have missed the vintage part. FYI, Pyrex switched from using borosilicate glass to tempered soda lime glass after Corning sold the brand in the 90's. Definitely not the same anymore.

Obviously
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She was a poor college student, so she had maybe 10, that is 9 too fucking many. And I'm just being nice. There are people who get these monthly. LIke a basket of the month crap. That would be twelve in a year. Maybe a bonus one for Christmas. I mean, what do you put in these things. Teddy Bears, sackets of potpourri? Sex toys? I think they even make scented baskets.

Funny thing though, I think that building was foreclosed on.

Something like that. Couldn't afford it after sales dropped.

http://www.kansascity.com/...article89339292.html

Take a look at the Yogi Bear tweet.

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Those were probably Pyrex made with a new formula (tempered soda lime glass) - that's why the old ones, made of borosilicate glass, are becoming valuable
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over the years i've greatly enjoyed reading/learning about folks various hobbies on this forum. I'm never gonna buy a $5k watch but i really enjoyed Mophal's lecture on watch buying a few years ago; i had no interest/time/capability for woodworking but have enjoyed the hell out of jrosa's wood working posts over the years--to the point i've started to dabble myself; i will never knit a single stitch but i used to enjoy greatly ms kittie's posts about her knitting.

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Travis R wrote:
A lady I recently worked with described herself as being into "recreational baking."

Well, if she's from WA, CO, or OR, there's a whole new market for that shit... which is now exceedingly lucrative!
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Steve Hawley wrote:
over the years i've greatly enjoyed reading/learning about folks various hobbies on this forum. I'm never gonna buy a $5k watch but i really enjoyed Mophal's lecture on watch buying a few years ago; i had no interest/time/capability for woodworking but have enjoyed the hell out of jrosa's wood working posts over the years--to the point i've started to dabble myself; i will never knit a single stitch but i used to enjoy greatly ms kittie's posts about her knitting.

/r

I hear you. Despite some of my earlier comments in this thread, I sort of, a little bit, understand the wrist watch thing - certainly more than I used to. I still think it's craziness the degree to which people get into it and the astronomical sums they're willing to spend on it, but I get it a little bit more now.

And there are definitely hobbies that I don't pursue myself, but understand why others do, and if I ever have the time & money, I could see myself getting into some of them. Woodworking is a bit like that for me. And for years now I've had this idea that I'll get into fly fishing when I get a bit older, seems like a good 'old man' hobby for me to cultivate somewhere along the line.
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GL w that fly fishing thing amigo! While i will never buy a $5k watch i did sign up for a very spendy bamboo fly rod building class wherein i'll emerge with a custom built bamboo rod of my own making and desire. Most folks go w two piece rods but i do the moto/camping/fly fishing gig so i'm going w a three piece 6wt (for big western waters). so i've no reason to throw stones at anyones' hobby or passion :-). and i really do like reading about other folks passion/hobbies on here. Wish there was more of that and less trolling/baiting/political bullshit.

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i really do like reading about other folks passion/hobbies on here. Wish there was more of that and less trolling/baiting/political bullshit.

Hear, hear!

My current obsession is watch YouTube videos of machining, and guitar comparisons. Neither of which I am involved with in the slightest.
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TATOOS. Even the m-dot ones.

wimsey wrote:
I had a conversation with a client yesterday who spent 10 minutes regaling me with a story about his latest high end pen purchase, upon which he spent approx. $5,000. He's pretty rich so he has the cash to indulge the hobby, but I just don't get the underlying fascination, upon which this dude has spent many, many thousands of dollars. I get spending a bit more for a decent pen that works right, but the concept of 'fancy' pens just seems ludicrous to me, and collecting them even more of a head-scratcher.

Similar reaction to a friend of mine who's a sneaker head - she's got upwards of 200 pairs of sneakers at last count, and she acknowledges that some of them she's unlikely to ever wear.

This is a different reaction for me than hobbies like golf. I don't like golf, I think it's sort of silly, but I get that it's attractive to some people due to it being a combo of physical and mental practice, gets you outside, is sociable, etc.

What else is out there that makes you go 'huh?'

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I swore when I did a 70.3 I was going to get a tattoo, finished on and didn't get the tattoo. Then thought when I did an ironman, I would do that, didn't do that either. I remember when I was in ROTC, some were talking about getting a USMC tattoo, the idea sound appealing to me. Until the gunny in charge of USMC ROTC said don't do it until you finished PLC, are a reservist or finished OCS unless you want to put W after it for wannabe.

I don't get tats, maybe JSA can explain. But I did like fucking girls with tats. If they like ink, they'll take it in the stink.


"In the world I see you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Towers. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying stripes of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway." T Durden
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Fly fishing was another things I tried to get going as a father son deal. Went to the Orvis school with the boy he even got his picture in the catalogue. Took him on some awesome trips. Several dozen brookies a day in Colorado. Cuttthroats galore on the Elk. His response was Meh. So I went back to doing triathlons. I have three fly rods in the closet that I hope to use again in the future.

wimsey wrote:
Steve Hawley wrote:
over the years i've greatly enjoyed reading/learning about folks various hobbies on this forum. I'm never gonna buy a $5k watch but i really enjoyed Mophal's lecture on watch buying a few years ago; i had no interest/time/capability for woodworking but have enjoyed the hell out of jrosa's wood working posts over the years--to the point i've started to dabble myself; i will never knit a single stitch but i used to enjoy greatly ms kittie's posts about her knitting.

/r


I hear you. Despite some of my earlier comments in this thread, I sort of, a little bit, understand the wrist watch thing - certainly more than I used to. I still think it's craziness the degree to which people get into it and the astronomical sums they're willing to spend on it, but I get it a little bit more now.

And there are definitely hobbies that I don't pursue myself, but understand why others do, and if I ever have the time & money, I could see myself getting into some of them. Woodworking is a bit like that for me. And for years now I've had this idea that I'll get into fly fishing when I get a bit older, seems like a good 'old man' hobby for me to cultivate somewhere along the line.

They constantly try to escape from the darkness outside and within
Dreaming of systems so perfect that no one will need to be good T.S. Eliot

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it is very odd how things like that work out but i applaud you for reaching out to your son like that.

Growing up--hunting was very important to me but i can count on no fingers the number of times my Dad (whom i love and revere) shared that passion with me.

Later on i became a father myself and can recall my son playing some computer video game he was very passionate about and i basically mocked him for playing video games. A few years later i was outside some shit hole village in Iraq where we were waiting to go in and do some stuff. You have a lot of time to think about shit on operations like this and i started to think about some hunting thing--then i started to think about how my Dad had never made the time to share that passion with me--then somehow, i started to think about how MY son loved these computer games and how i'd mocked him. Felt like complete shit--and deservedly so. When my tour was over and i got home one of the first things i did was go to my son and ask him what game he was currently playing. He said some new game that had just come out called World of Warcraft. So I went out and bought it; loaded it on my computer and began to play it. I was probably the worst WOW player in the history of WOW during vanilla--but I got better as we went along. Played hours and hours with my son; played with him on later tours overseas from Qatar and Australia. It really helped me connect with my son on a level i would never have imagined. But it was about what he was passionate about--not me. I still suck at Ret Pally gaming but we've shared many many hours together and it's opened up communication levels i'd not thought possible.

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I understand how hockey works, I just don't get excited about it.
Because you're stupid.

yeah, that's why I have three diplomas on my wall

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I understand how hockey works, I just don't get excited about it.
Because you're stupid.


yeah, that's why I have three diplomas on my wall

Three stupid diplomas. Stupid.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Similar to the pen one, expensive watches as a collection.


Pens and watches are quite similar in that the high end represent a level of craftsmanship, engineering, and artistry that aren't found in more common versions.

A nice minute repeater has hundreds of tiny parts (gears, screws, springs), that all have to fit and work together it's amazing.

Some friends of mine are collectors, and I looked into it. After reading up on the development of the pallet lever escapement and accurate time keeping, and seeing what goes into making even a basic mechanical watch, made me appreciate it. Watch the A&E movie Longitude if you get a chance.

High end fountain pens are less complicated, but the effort and skill that goes into making them is impressive. The YouTube videos are mesmerizing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCFWyIm73A8

To me, at least they have some intrinsic value, not as time keepers are writing instruments because much less expensive alternatives can do a better job. The labor and skill needed to create then, cannot be duplicated cheaply.

Things I don't understand, are Beenie Babies, or collector edition anythings. This are common, easy to reproduce items that are artificially limited to try to create demand.

This. Well said and represents my feelings as well.

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Moose watching. I don't get it. I also don't understand the claimed sexual arousal associated with it..

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Thanks for the kind words. If you are dabbling in woodworking, please feel free to pm me for advice. I have never had a big shop, and have lots of suggestions on how to work in a small space with a smallish budget.
Always glad to teach and advise.

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j p o wrote:
Your question would cover most hobbies. If you aren't into the hobby, you think those guys are weird.

I laugh because I have a lot of hobbies that attract a lot of weirdos/dorks. That's fine, if I'm the weirdo I don't really care. We do hobbies because it amuses us. Not for whether or not anyone else gives a damn.

True. But, there is a fine line between hobby and obsession ...




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The hard on some posters here have over guns is a bit of a head scratcher for me.

Long Chile was a silly place.
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The hard on some posters here have over guns is a bit of a head scratcher for me.

X2. We own a .22 and a shot gun, shot a few cans off a fence a couple of times, but sure don't get the hunting/gun thing at all.
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Look back on it I wish I had tried playing video games with him. He turned out to be a good kid anyway. And he has really strong thumbs.


Steve Hawley wrote:
it is very odd how things like that work out but i applaud you for reaching out to your son like that.

Growing up--hunting was very important to me but i can count on no fingers the number of times my Dad (whom i love and revere) shared that passion with me.

Later on i became a father myself and can recall my son playing some computer video game he was very passionate about and i basically mocked him for playing video games. A few years later i was outside some shit hole village in Iraq where we were waiting to go in and do some stuff. You have a lot of time to think about shit on operations like this and i started to think about some hunting thing--then i started to think about how my Dad had never made the time to share that passion with me--then somehow, i started to think about how MY son loved these computer games and how i'd mocked him. Felt like complete shit--and deservedly so. When my tour was over and i got home one of the first things i did was go to my son and ask him what game he was currently playing. He said some new game that had just come out called World of Warcraft. So I went out and bought it; loaded it on my computer and began to play it. I was probably the worst WOW player in the history of WOW during vanilla--but I got better as we went along. Played hours and hours with my son; played with him on later tours overseas from Qatar and Australia. It really helped me connect with my son on a level i would never have imagined. But it was about what he was passionate about--not me. I still suck at Ret Pally gaming but we've shared many many hours together and it's opened up communication levels i'd not thought possible.

/r

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Dreaming of systems so perfect that no one will need to be good T.S. Eliot

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I understand how hockey works, I just don't get excited about it.
Because you're stupid.

yeah, that's why I have three diplomas on my wall

That really doesn't matter.
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Yes--it was a similar comment i made about keyboard mastery i made to my son. Not something i'm particularly proud of. I share the story purely as a case study (N=1) as a technique in connecting with your child.

I see our Canukistani brothers commenting in parallel and that is fine. While hunting, fishing and field craft was so very important to me growing up, i'm not sure why they would categorize it a "hard on?" But that probably says more about them than me. Expertness in taking game and fish is something i'm still working to achieve.

One of a handful of very influential books i read growing up was by Robert Ruark titled "The Old Man and the Boy." Loved that book and still do.

take good care amigo

v/r

Steve
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BCtriguy1 wrote:
The hard on some posters here have over guns is a bit of a head scratcher for me.

In what way? A gun is a tool. Shooting is a skill. Honing a skill and seeing progress is exciting. People geek out over high quality tools all the time. People (like BarryP) geek out over medieval replica swords.

I don't enjoy woodworking, but I have discovery I really enjoy building guns. I find it enjoyable to study and learn everything I can about gun parts, searching for and selecting those parts, then putting them together. I found the same enjoyment in building my own bikes when I was doing tris.

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My dad took me fishing and hunting and I used to tag along on the trapline. I really enjoyed that. He was a small time contractor and didn't have much money but that kind of stuff wasn't that expensive.

Steve Hawley wrote:
Yes--it was a similar comment i made about keyboard mastery i made to my son. Not something i'm particularly proud of. I share the story purely as a case study (N=1) as a technique in connecting with your child.

I see our Canukistani brothers commenting in parallel and that is fine. While hunting, fishing and field craft was so very important to me growing up, i'm not sure why they would categorize it a "hard on?" But that probably says more about them than me. Expertness in taking game and fish is something i'm still working to achieve.

One of a handful of very influential books i read growing up was by Robert Ruark titled "The Old Man and the Boy." Loved that book and still do.

take good care amigo

v/r

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Dreaming of systems so perfect that no one will need to be good T.S. Eliot

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well i envy you that--as at that time hunting an fishing was very important to me. Regardless of 'hard on' comments from our northern brothers

So i would have greatly enjoyed spending time with my Dad on trapping lines as you enjoyed. Wow!

Not appreciated at the time but i did spend multitudinous hours helping him build his various airplanes--i think i've posted here on them before but here is one where i rode m moto over to visit. Dad me and his restored Austrian Jung Meister




Steve
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Steve Hawley wrote:
well i envy you that--as at that time hunting an fishing was very important to me. Regardless of 'hard on' comments from our northern brothers

So i would have greatly enjoyed spending time with my Dad on trapping lines as you enjoyed. Wow!

Not appreciated at the time but i did spend multitudinous hours helping him build his various airplanes--i think i've posted here on them before but here is one where i rode m moto over to visit. Dad me and his restored Austrian Jung Meister



Is that a BMW? I love BMWs. My dad had a German army version 1942 or so. He had it restored and rode it all over Europe in 60s. I love riding but I don't get people who belong to the "iron butt" club. They ride long, long distances, not about going somewhere or seeing something but just to ride, about time on the bike, hundreds and hundreds kilometers a day.

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BCtriguy1 wrote:
The hard on some posters here have over guns is a bit of a head scratcher for me.


In what way? A gun is a tool. Shooting is a skill. Honing a skill and seeing progress is exciting. People geek out over high quality tools all the time. People (like BarryP) geek out over medieval replica swords.

I don't enjoy woodworking, but I have discovery I really enjoy building guns. I find it enjoyable to study and learn everything I can about gun parts, searching for and selecting those parts, then putting them together. I found the same enjoyment in building my own bikes when I was doing tris.

While I agree a gun is a tool, I view them in a different light then I would woodworking tools, where the tools help you create or build something. A gun is a tool like a lawnmower. I don't know about you, but I don't spend hours on mowertwitch.com researching customized mowers, despite my appreciation for a smooth running Honda.

That, and some gun enthusiasts seem to take the home defence fantasy to strange heights.

I'm sure a lot of this can be chalked up to cultural differences.


When you refer to building a gun, do you mean assembling parts that need no modification? When I think of building something, I think of taking raw materials and turning that in to some finished part or whole product. I think of machining, milling, drilling, cutting, boring, taping, sanding, finishing, etc. Would that be gun smithing? I don't think I had ever heard of 'building' something refer to the assembly of pre-made parts until I got in to cycling.

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Steve Hawley wrote:
well i envy you that--as at that time hunting an fishing was very important to me. Regardless of 'hard on' comments from our northern brothers

So i would have greatly enjoyed spending time with my Dad on trapping lines as you enjoyed. Wow!

Not appreciated at the time but i did spend multitudinous hours helping him build his various airplanes--i think i've posted here on them before but here is one where i rode m moto over to visit. Dad me and his restored Austrian Jung Meister



I meant no offence by the 'hard on' comment. I know there are a ton of people who use guns to hunt, enjoy working on them, collecting them, etc. My comment was more directed at people who seem to have an obsession with them, plan extensively for bizarre home invasion scenarios, or are preparing for the collapse of civilization, etc.

Long Chile was a silly place.
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Gunsmithing is more like building a custom car... You can slap together off the shelf parts or get completely artisanal with it.
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Pokémon

Just glad this stupid shit seems to have died off!
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<<I meant no offence by the 'hard on' comment. I know there are a ton of people who use guns to hunt, enjoy working on them, collecting them, etc. My comment was more directed at people who seem to have an obsession with them, plan extensively for bizarre home invasion scenarios, or are preparing for the collapse of civilization, etc. >>

I know your comment was directed at Steve Hawley, but I understand the distinction you're making.

I grew up hunting deer with my dad and brothers. It was an important kind of male bonding thing we did (though lord knows the words "male bonding" would never pass my dad's lips...), and it fostered a lifelong interest in hunting for me. As a result, I've got an assortment of guns, mostly different ones for different hunting scenarios, and a few that I don't use often but keep for sentimental reasons because they belonged to family members a couple generations back. I also have a couple pistols which aren't hunting guns, but I enjoy shooting them, plus they're something I can shoot indoors at the range during cold winter months.

What I don't get into the way some do is the home defense, overthrow the tyrannical gov't, zombie apocalypse stuff. Hell, my guns are behind several layers of locks and the pistols I keep field stripped until I'm going to the range. If I wanted to defend myself at home with a handgun I'd need 10 minutes to get the various locks opened and the thing put together.
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I don't get the whole cosplay scene but to each their own, I'm sure people think what I'm interested in is weird but so be it. As far as collectibles, I used to collect baseball cards as a kid but those are long gone; I wish I had hung onto them since some that I had are worth quite a bit today. I also collect old brewery memorabilia, specifically Hanley's (my last name) where it's kind of cool to see your name on an old beer bootle, tray, bar lamp etc. It was brewed in Rhode Island from the late 1800's up through the early 1960s, and I have plenty of bottle openers, coasters, cans, bottles, trays, matchbooks and a wooden beer crate that I've gathered over the years. Looks nice displayed in my basement room.



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<<I meant no offence by the 'hard on' comment. I know there are a ton of people who use guns to hunt, enjoy working on them, collecting them, etc. My comment was more directed at people who seem to have an obsession with them, plan extensively for bizarre home invasion scenarios, or are preparing for the collapse of civilization, etc. >>

I know your comment was directed at Steve Hawley, but I understand the distinction you're making.

I grew up hunting deer with my dad and brothers. It was an important kind of male bonding thing we did (though lord knows the words "male bonding" would never pass my dad's lips...), and it fostered a lifelong interest in hunting for me. As a result, I've got an assortment of guns, mostly different ones for different hunting scenarios, and a few that I don't use often but keep for sentimental reasons because they belonged to family members a couple generations back. I also have a couple pistols which aren't hunting guns, but I enjoy shooting them, plus they're something I can shoot indoors at the range during cold winter months.

What I don't get into the way some do is the home defense, overthrow the tyrannical gov't, zombie apocalypse stuff. Hell, my guns are behind several layers of locks and the pistols I keep field stripped until I'm going to the range. If I wanted to defend myself at home with a handgun I'd need 10 minutes to get the various locks opened and the thing put together.

Yes, that is exactly the distinction I'm trying to make. Thank you for posting that!

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Ringmaster wrote:
My wife collects, sells, and trades vintage Pyrex cookware. I had no idea it was a "thing" but apparently some pieces go for thousands of dollars.

I have had two Pyrex cookware items break in the oven whilst cooking. One cracked right down the middle, the other practically exploded.

Pieces of shit.
As a kid maybe 12-13 one of my chores was doing the dishes after dinner. I remember one night for dinner my mom baked some chicken in one of those Pyrex glass pans. After she took it out of the oven and plated the chicken, I had the bright idea that I would get a jumpstart on the dishes and started with the hot glass pan straight from the oven. I turned the cold water on to rince that thing out and it exploded into a million pieces. Scared the shit out of me!
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Guns I don't get. (I've gone shooting once, it was meh). Gambling I don't get (same). Or anything to excess.

I don't get the obsession with televised sports of any sort.

I think my problem is that I get bored with too much of anything.

Yeah my Dad and brother love the slots. I don't get gambling, it does nothing for me. When I've gone with them I don't enjoy myself in the least. I find Casinos especially outside of Vegas to be some of the most depressing places on earth.
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Duffy wrote:
BLeP wrote:
Duffy wrote:
BLeP wrote:
Duffy wrote:
BLeP wrote:
tigerchik wrote:
For me it's mostly sports that I don't get - football, hockey, ... wrestling... golf...


Serious question... what's not to get about hockey? Put puck past goalie into net. That's called a goal. Most goals wins.


Well what's with the skates?


It's easier to move around on the ice in skates.


Curlers don't need no stinking skates.


No sir. They also walk.


Well, duh. If they ran they'd probably fall and hurt themselves. Ice is slippery.



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Just so you know I am one of those Northern guys from Ontario. Nothing worse than someone thinking you are someone you are not and feeling somewhat betrayed later when they find out different. Although not that Northern I grew up 30 miles north of Toronto. Actually I think there is a bit of a disconnect. I think my Northern Brothers are thinking about folks like the preppers who are sensing the apocalypse is coming or preparing for a home invasion. I did have an uncle who was gunsmith. He used to load his own rounds and build his own guns carve the stocks etc. It started from being in the army I think. He mostly gave that up after he had a very bad experience when he botching shooting his dog which gave him an aversion to guns I think. The dog had bit his kid quite badly so it had to be put down. Anyway the plane thing sounds cool.

Steve Hawley wrote:
well i envy you that--as at that time hunting an fishing was very important to me. Regardless of 'hard on' comments from our northern brothers

So i would have greatly enjoyed spending time with my Dad on trapping lines as you enjoyed. Wow!

Not appreciated at the time but i did spend multitudinous hours helping him build his various airplanes--i think i've posted here on them before but here is one where i rode m moto over to visit. Dad me and his restored Austrian Jung Meister



They constantly try to escape from the darkness outside and within
Dreaming of systems so perfect that no one will need to be good T.S. Eliot

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JSA wrote:
BCtriguy1 wrote:
The hard on some posters here have over guns is a bit of a head scratcher for me.


In what way? A gun is a tool. Shooting is a skill. Honing a skill and seeing progress is exciting. People geek out over high quality tools all the time. People (like BarryP) geek out over medieval replica swords.

I don't enjoy woodworking, but I have discovery I really enjoy building guns. I find it enjoyable to study and learn everything I can about gun parts, searching for and selecting those parts, then putting them together. I found the same enjoyment in building my own bikes when I was doing tris.


While I agree a gun is a tool, I view them in a different light then I would woodworking tools, where the tools help you create or build something. A gun is a tool like a lawnmower. I don't know about you, but I don't spend hours on mowertwitch.com researching customized mowers, despite my appreciation for a smooth running Honda.

How about archery? How about fencing? Many tend to look at both activities with a certain sense of romanticism. Hell, even skeet shooting is an Olympic sport. But, for some reason, spending time with a Glock 9mm at a range honing one's skills is looked down upon by the "cluck-cluck" crowd.

BCtriguy1 wrote:
That, and some gun enthusiasts seem to take the home defence fantasy to strange heights.
Small segment, most of which are really not "gun enthusiasts" and, like anything else, are not large in numbers, simply loud in volume.

BCtriguy1 wrote:
When you refer to building a gun, do you mean assembling parts that need no modification? When I think of building something, I think of taking raw materials and turning that in to some finished part or whole product. I think of machining, milling, drilling, cutting, boring, taping, sanding, finishing, etc. Would that be gun smithing? I don't think I had ever heard of 'building' something refer to the assembly of pre-made parts until I got in to cycling.

When I refer to it, I refer to it like a person who "builds" a custom car. Did that person forge in fire any of the parts? Of course not. They assembled parts. But, it is still referred to as a "custom built" car.

Now, my buddies at Roberts Defense make some of the finest custom 1911s on the planet and they do, in fact, forge their own parts. When they say they "build" custom 1911s, they do so from scratch.

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How the hell has no one mentioned watching reality TV????? Good lord that has to be the worst. Every time I see my wife watching the Krapdashians or the Fake Housewives of wherever I just shake my head.
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bloody ugly/creepy ceramic figurines, especially the 'cutesy/folksy' ones of little kids. people pay big money for this stuff and plunk it on a shelf to watch them while they eat, and i just don't get it:



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How the hell has no one mentioned watching reality TV????? Good lord that has to be the worst. Every time I see my wife watching the Krapdashians or the Fake Housewives of wherever I just shake my head.

It's the train wreck phenomenon, it's hard to look away. I don't generally watch TV other than soccer but my daughter does, so she often has something on when I'm sitting there.

The Long Island Medium and My 600lb Life are hard to not get sucked into. I think it's mostly about making watchers feel like at least they aren't as fucked up as those people.
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I don't understand people's fascination with their phones and how the world stops if their phone rings. In SE Asia, people literally walk around with their phones in their hand, 24 hours per day. If you go out to dinner with a group, the phones are out on the table in front of them and they are constantly looking down just in case someone, who they would rather be with, sends them a message. I would see a group of 8 people out to dinner, to be social, and then each of them is on their phones typing to someone else.

For the last year, I have a phone at work and a land line at home and have never once been outside and wished I had a phone in my hand to make sure I didn't miss a message.
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I don't get gambling, it does nothing for me.
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Or, by extension, people who watch gambling on TV.






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How about archery? How about fencing? Many tend to look at both activities with a certain sense of romanticism. Hell, even skeet shooting is an Olympic sport. But, for some reason, spending time with a Glock 9mm at a range honing one's skills is looked down upon by the "cluck-cluck" crowd.

Again, I meant no disrespect to most gun owners with my comment, and certainly don't look down at most people who go to the range. See the replies by me and another poster for clarification.


When I refer to it, I refer to it like a person who "builds" a custom car. Did that person forge in fire any of the parts? Of course not. They assembled parts. But, it is still referred to as a "custom built" car.

I don't know many custom car builders who haven't welded, ground, filled, filed cut or otherwise modified something. Sure they're not casting their own engine blocks but it seems most do at least some work that requires some kind of advanced hand skill and materials knowledge. Maybe gun building requires this type of work, I don't know, I've never built one, which is why I am asking.

Now, my buddies at Roberts Defense make some of the finest custom 1911s on the planet and they do, in fact, forge their own parts. When they say they "build" custom 1911s, they do so from scratch


That's pretty awesome.

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" I also have a couple pistols which aren't hunting guns, but I enjoy shooting them, plus they're something I can shoot indoors at the range during cold winter months."



The one time I shot guns it was with my nephew (who is into guns) at an outdoor range in Petawawa, ON, in February. I think it was -25C

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I don't understand people's fascination with their phones and how the world stops if their phone rings. In SE Asia, people literally walk around with their phones in their hand, 24 hours per day. If you go out to dinner with a group, the phones are out on the table in front of them and they are constantly looking down just in case someone, who they would rather be with, sends them a message. I would see a group of 8 people out to dinner, to be social, and then each of them is on their phones typing to someone else.

For the last year, I have a phone at work and a land line at home and have never once been outside and wished I had a phone in my hand to make sure I didn't miss a message.


I live near a city park where I walk my dog all the time. In the evenings it's common for local teens to park their cars on the edge of the park and hang out, drink, smoke weed, etc. What gets me is that they are always always always buried in their phones. There will be a car full of teens and they're all staring at their phones rather than interacting directly with people who are right next to them. They text and snapchat each other while they're sitting right next to each other.
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Roger that and thanks

i've tremendous respect for Canadians. Have served alongside some PPLI dudes that were just plain awesome. No problem with em here on this forum excepting one individual whom seems to go out of his way to be a dick--but that's just a person being a dick.

Some day I'm gonna ride my moto up to the Arctic Circle (if it hasn't melted). I plan to spend some time fly fishing and camping along the way through BC and Yukon territory. Looking forward to it.

take good care
/r

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over the years i've greatly enjoyed reading/learning about folks various hobbies on this forum. I'm never gonna buy a $5k watch but i really enjoyed Mophal's lecture on watch buying a few years ago; i had no interest/time/capability for woodworking but have enjoyed the hell out of jrosa's wood working posts over the years--to the point i've started to dabble myself; i will never knit a single stitch but i used to enjoy greatly ms kittie's posts about her knitting.

/r

+1. I like to hear about others passions/hobbies/enthusiasms. 10 minutes of listening to others is 10 minutes of learning. And if you want to spend an enormous amount of money on it, that's fine with me. I admire the effort.

I guess the person who buys the outlandish (bicycle, motorcycle, wrist candy, boat, wine, etc.) and never bothers to learn about it or how to use it are the only people I might question. But really, these people are not following a passion or desire but instead are searching for an identity.
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How about archery? How about fencing? Many tend to look at both activities with a certain sense of romanticism. Hell, even skeet shooting is an Olympic sport. But, for some reason, spending time with a Glock 9mm at a range honing one's skills is looked down upon by the "cluck-cluck" crowd.

Again, I meant no disrespect to most gun owners with my comment, and certainly don't look down at most people who go to the range. See the replies by me and another poster for clarification.

Sorry, I did not mean to lump you into that crowd, but, upon review, I certainly appear to have done so.


BCtriguy1 wrote:
When I refer to it, I refer to it like a person who "builds" a custom car. Did that person forge in fire any of the parts? Of course not. They assembled parts. But, it is still referred to as a "custom built" car.

I don't know many custom car builders who haven't welded, ground, filled, filed cut or otherwise modified something. Sure they're not casting their own engine blocks but it seems most do at least some work that requires some kind of advanced hand skill and materials knowledge. Maybe gun building requires this type of work, I don't know, I've never built one, which is why I am asking.
I believe you are thinking more of car restoration guys. I was thinking more of "tuners" like the guy who works on my Golf .:R(ace car).

My AR and Glock "builds" would be better classified as gun "assembly." I'm not claiming some master skill on my part, just knowledge of how each part works and how to put them together.

Although my current Glock "build" does involve sanding and cutting to both the polymer lower and the metal slide. But, guys like vitus still don't consider that gunsmithing. However, he is in another type of "cluck-cluck" crowd ...

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Now, my buddies at Roberts Defense make some of the finest custom 1911s on the planet and they do, in fact, forge their own parts. When they say they "build" custom 1911s, they do so from scratch

That's pretty awesome.

It really is. They have someone else fabricate the barrels for them, but do the rest. I got to meet and chat with the owner. They keep dabbling in the barrels as well, but he finds it to be one of the few areas where a dedicated barrel manufacturer may be the best way to go. I'm pretty certain Wilson Combat is still buying there handgun barrels from a dedicated barrel manufacturer for the same reason. They make their own rifle barrels, but, at least since 2016, bought their handgun barrels. I don't think that has changed.

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" I also have a couple pistols which aren't hunting guns, but I enjoy shooting them, plus they're something I can shoot indoors at the range during cold winter months."



The one time I shot guns it was with my nephew (who is into guns) at an outdoor range in Petawawa, ON, in February. I think it was -25C

Jesus - no thank you. Like I said, I hunt deer so I'm used to being out in the cold with a gun, but if it's below -12C or so, I generally figure the deer have it bad enough and I don't need to add to their stress so I stay home :)

For pistols, part of what I like about shooting them is that it's almost meditative. There's a rhythm to it that can be strangely peaceful in a way. But that ain't happening if I'm shivering my arse off and trying to find the trigger through 3 layers of gloves.

Coldest run I ever did was a Christmas morning jog in Wisconsin when it was -30C. I made it just shy of 5 miles before I gave up. People complain here in Boston about the winters but they don't really know shit about it compared to January in Wisconsin or Minnesota.
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Some day I'm gonna ride my moto up to the Arctic Circle (if it hasn't melted). I plan to spend some time fly fishing and camping along the way through BC and Yukon territory. Looking forward to it.

I rode my bicycle from Inuvik, the most northern community with road access in Canada. Inuvik is above the Arctic Circle and in the Northwest Territories so biked south crossing into Yukon and then all the way through B.C and Alberta to the border. In the Yukon, there are far more bears than people and I saw about 10 black bears daily, eating on the side of the road. I saw a few grizzly cubs (a little nerve wrecking when you're on a bike and no one around) and a number of Moose. The bears would hang around the side of the road eating until the snow higher up melted. The route south on the Dempster Highway crosses a few rivers without bridges, you have to take a ferry and starting on June 3rd, I was one of the first crossing after the ice melted.

I started above the tree line, in the tundra, quite spectacular in it's own way. As you head south, you start running into mountains and then trees, and then greenery. To see the progression is incredible, particularly when you are moving slowly on a bicycle. There were a number of motorcyclists, particularly once you get down to the Alaska Highway, not as many on the Dempster because it's a gravel road.

Highly recommend the trip.

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i think you've more skill in your little finger then i've in my whole body when it comes to wood working.

i've recently embarked on an endeavor to "build" a flint lock 'Kentucky' rifle. So I ordered a custom kit from Tennessee Valley Muzzle Loaders. Sure--i am not forging the barrel from molten steel but to me it sure is enjoyable to 'build' this flinter. The added advantage is it's given me a whole new excuse for buying tools for my shop. If anyone has recently encountered any difficulties in purchasing any sanding, filing, grinding, sawing, or shaping tools it's because i've cornered the market. My wife just laughs when the FEDEX truck comes up to the door. Got a whole drill index (hobby grade) with metric, standard, numbered and lettered drills--how cool is that.

if i don't F'k this whole thing up i will post a thread on it in a few months. I've another Afghan tour to do but when i come back i will take a deer with this flint lock i've 'built'

here's a pic of a device i got for my drill press that will allow me to drill 'point to point' holes when it's time to drill the pins that will lock the barrel to the stock.



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How were the bugs?

Sanuk wrote:
Some day I'm gonna ride my moto up to the Arctic Circle (if it hasn't melted). I plan to spend some time fly fishing and camping along the way through BC and Yukon territory. Looking forward to it.

I rode my bicycle from Inuvik, the most northern community with road access in Canada. Inuvik is above the Arctic Circle and in the Northwest Territories so biked south crossing into Yukon and then all the way through B.C and Alberta to the border. In the Yukon, there are far more bears than people and I saw about 10 black bears daily, eating on the side of the road. I saw a few grizzly cubs (a little nerve wrecking when you're on a bike and no one around) and a number of Moose. The bears would hang around the side of the road eating until the snow higher up melted. The route south on the Dempster Highway crosses a few rivers without bridges, you have to take a ferry and starting on June 3rd, I was one of the first crossing after the ice melted.

I started above the tree line, in the tundra, quite spectacular in it's own way. As you head south, you start running into mountains and then trees, and then greenery. To see the progression is incredible, particularly when you are moving slowly on a bicycle. There were a number of motorcyclists, particularly once you get down to the Alaska Highway, not as many on the Dempster because it's a gravel road.

Highly recommend the trip.

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if you've pic's of this trip i would love to see them--i am serious as i'd like to see them. Riding my Bavarian Camping Tractor up to the arctic circle is a definite goal. So please post a TR of your cycling journey. that would be infinitely preferable to the usual bull shit trolling posts that seem to have become the norm. i believe you've also cycled across the middle east? Post a TR with pics of that with your commentary. I think all of us would enjoy that.

v/r

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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [Steve Hawley] [ In reply to ]
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Steve Hawley wrote:
if you've pic's of this trip i would love to see them--i am serious as i'd like to see them. Riding my Bavarian Camping Tractor up to the arctic circle is a definite goal. So please post a TR of your cycling journey. that would be infinitely preferable to the usual bull shit trolling posts that seem to have become the norm. i believe you've also cycled across the middle east? Post a TR with pics of that with your commentary. I think all of us would enjoy that.

v/r

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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [Tri-Banter] [ In reply to ]
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Tri-Banter wrote:
I don't get gambling, it does nothing for me.
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Or, by extension, people who watch gambling on TV.

Depends on the gambling. Poker is a game of skill. You are competing against the other people. I could play poker for skittles and have as much fun if the other people were taking it seriously (although I'd probably eat my stack).

Slots and straight games of chance are a different breed. I'm not sure what the thrill of those is.

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [j p o] [ In reply to ]
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Does that mean you're interested in watching people playing poker on tv for skittles?






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Tri-Banter wrote:
Does that mean you're interested in watching people playing poker on tv for skittles?

Well no, TV poker is pretty boring, and if you watch it live so you get every hand it is worse than spectating at an Ironman. But now I want some skittles.

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [Steve Hawley] [ In reply to ]
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I made a journal of my trip starting in Bangkok but the Canadian portion starting in Inuvik is in June 2014. There are some pictures there.

My last post was when my trip ended but on the sidebar, click "June" that is the start of the portion of my trip in Inuvik.

http://bikefororphans.blogspot.ca/2014_06_01_archive.html
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [Sanuk] [ In reply to ]
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TYVM

Steve
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [Sanuk] [ In reply to ]
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having gone thru the photo journal

WOW!

thanks

Steve
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [Sanuk] [ In reply to ]
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firewall is blocking photos, I'll have a look tonight during my "me" time.

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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [Sanuk] [ In reply to ]
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Sanuk wrote:
I made a journal of my trip starting in Bangkok but the Canadian portion starting in Inuvik is in June 2014. There are some pictures there.

My last post was when my trip ended but on the sidebar, click "June" that is the start of the portion of my trip in Inuvik.

http://bikefororphans.blogspot.ca/2014_06_01_archive.html

Thanks for posting the link. I only had a few minutes to skim your blog but can't wait to read all the details. All I can say is WOW!
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [BCtriguy1] [ In reply to ]
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The hard on some posters here have over guns is a bit of a head scratcher for me.

I have no idea who you're referring to but a hard on for guns is easy to understand. They make some people feel powerful.

“Read the transcript.”
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [wimsey] [ In reply to ]
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The furry thing...I have never heard of it before till my friend mentioned it. There is a convention across the street from his office every year. Provides for some good workday entertainment looking out the windows.
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
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JasoninHalifax wrote:
firewall is blocking photos, I'll have a look tonight during my "me" time.

Dude, I doubt he wants you masturbating to his pictures.

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [j p o] [ In reply to ]
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j p o wrote:
JasoninHalifax wrote:
firewall is blocking photos, I'll have a look tonight during my "me" time.


Dude, I doubt he wants you masturbating to his pictures.

Why not?

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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [vitus979] [ In reply to ]
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I had to Google "cosplay." The things I learn here.
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
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JasoninHalifax wrote:
j p o wrote:
JasoninHalifax wrote:
firewall is blocking photos, I'll have a look tonight during my "me" time.


Dude, I doubt he wants you masturbating to his pictures.


Why not?

Re-read the subject line.
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [Rambler] [ In reply to ]
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Rambler wrote:
I had to Google "cosplay." The things I learn here.

So did I. That's some crazy shit. Clicked on 'Images'. Sheesh.

Greg

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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [Steve Hawley] [ In reply to ]
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Nice bike and nice plane. Like your Dad, I'd have to admit a long lasting infatuation with aviation. My Dad was a career pilot in the Air Force, retired and started an FBO, became a pilot examiner, and taught me to fly at an early age including issuing my pilot license to me. Last summer, he taught my son to fly in the very same airplane I learned in. I got chills when he sent me a text message with a video of my son landing at the end of his first solo. Dad is 86 now and is still instructing. Over the years, we flew various restored warbirds to airshows, I became obsessed with flying gliders and soon found myself on the national competition circuit travelling all over the country for contests. Dad crewed for me most of the time and enjoyed this niche of aviation that I found. It wasn't long before he went to the same gliderport as I went to for instruction and got his glider rating from the same instructor. Later, I bought a Cirrus SR22 and Dad taught me how to fly on instruments within a year after taking delivery. Now, my son is trying to decide which aviation college he will attend and how he will find his way to the cockpit of an airliner.

At various times, I have been completely taken by other hobbies as well. I raced sailboats extensively for 10 years including the Great Lakes, Puget Sound, Bay area, and the southeastern coast. For about 8-10 years, I got into racing cars from SCCA autocross events to Porsche and Ferrari club racing. Now, I'd say cycling is a passion. I get in about 3,500 to 4,000 miles per year and spend a lot of time mentoring new riders since I am 60YO and can't really compete with the A-riders anymore. Even with all of these extracurricular activities, aviation has always been a part of my life. Now, I really want to buy myself some sort of taildragger to putz around in on Saturday mornings going to pancake breakfast fly-ins.

Greg

If you are a Canuck that engages in gratuitous bashing of the US, you are probably on my Iggy List. So, save your self a bunch of typing a response unless you also feel the need to gratuitously bash me. If so, have fun.
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [wimsey] [ In reply to ]
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I don't get people who hang out in the LavRoom. Oh, wait...

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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [Steve Hawley] [ In reply to ]
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It's not so much I have tons of skills, I just have decades of experience. Put the time in I have I have no doubt your would be every bit as accomplished as I am.
Love the muzzle loader project. Do you get to carbs the stock or is that pre done? Of so, have you considered decorative carbon-based or wood burning. There is a cool technique using rope and burning the rope to make a faux tiger pattern.

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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [gregtryin] [ In reply to ]
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gregtryin wrote:
Rambler wrote:
I had to Google "cosplay." The things I learn here.


So did I. That's some crazy shit. Clicked on 'Images'. Sheesh.

Greg

Someday I may google cosplay and larping.

The one thing I don't get is Medieval Fighting.

(Well actually it makes much more sense to me than watching people play poker on TV, but I had to take a jab at one of our favorite fellows who is so far absent here.)

My weird hobby is collecting/fixing/trading/selling vintage stereo equipment. I listen too, but the equipment is a hobby in itself.

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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [wimsey] [ In reply to ]
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This reminds me of my college girlfriend.

We went to her grandmother's house for Christmas. It was full of ladybug stuff. Figurines, decorations, mats, rugs, plates...everything. We did a gift opening. She got nothing but ladybug stuff and acted like she was so excited about each thing.

Later in the day I found myself alone with her and she turned to me and said, "I mentioned that I like ladybugs once 30 years ago and every fucking gift I have gotten since is another fucking ladybug."

Andy
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [iron_mike] [ In reply to ]
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iron_mike wrote:
bloody ugly/creepy ceramic figurines, especially the 'cutesy/folksy' ones of little kids. people pay big money for this stuff and plunk it on a shelf to watch them while they eat, and i just don't get it:



-mike

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I soon came to find out that little old ladies put out tons of money for ANYTHING with those two little brats on it: calendars, plates, bowls, spoons, figurines, Xmas ornaments [of which I still happen to have from the years I was there (1985-1996)]

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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [iron_mike] [ In reply to ]
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bloody ugly/creepy ceramic figurines, especially the 'cutesy/folksy' ones of little kids. people pay big money for this stuff and plunk it on a shelf to watch them while they eat...



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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [Sanuk] [ In reply to ]
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Sanuk wrote:
I don't understand people's fascination with their phones and how the world stops if their phone rings. In SE Asia, people literally walk around with their phones in their hand, 24 hours per day. If you go out to dinner with a group, the phones are out on the table in front of them and they are constantly looking down just in case someone, who they would rather be with, sends them a message. I would see a group of 8 people out to dinner, to be social, and then each of them is on their phones typing to someone else.

For the last year, I have a phone at work and a land line at home and have never once been outside and wished I had a phone in my hand to make sure I didn't miss a message.
I completely agree. A few weeks back while on a flight to Portland I noticed the guy sitting across from me holding his phone as if he were about to lose his life. No games or music were being played, he just had to hold it.


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Sanuk wrote:
bloody ugly/creepy ceramic figurines, especially the 'cutesy/folksy' ones of little kids. people pay big money for this stuff and plunk it on a shelf to watch them while they eat...



Looks like Meryl Streep, as Julia Child



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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [ChiTownJack] [ In reply to ]
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Last I heard, Pyrex sold in Europe is still borosilicate glass. Corning explained that the European market is more quality oriented while the US market is more price sensitive. We get the crap, everyone else gets the good stuff.
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [Steve Hawley] [ In reply to ]
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That's really cool. You sound like a great Dad.
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [wimsey] [ In reply to ]
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I've seen a few of these "lip-synching battles" lately and I don't get the appeal at all.
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Re: Hobbies/collectibles/enthusiasms you just don't get [Sanuk] [ In reply to ]
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Tattoos.
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