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College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships
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Remarkably, all ten #1 seeds are undefeated. Nobody seems to know if that has ever happened before.

Nobody else in the tournament is undefeated. 174 has three others with only one loss (Epperly, BoJo by one point to #2 Realbuto, Realbuto by one point to the #1 Valencia). 184 came close to having two undefeateds, but Martin beat then-undefeated Nickal in the B1G championships last week. 285 had undefeateds until again at B1G #1 Synder beat then-undefeated Medbery in the final.

Gabe Dean at 184 is 31-0, and has given up exactly two points that weren't escape points (a last second takedown by Martin when Dean was going for a risky move to try for a major decision); that's why he's been nicknamed "Destroyer of Worlds". That and he led the country with 20 pins. Snyder at 285 also has given up only one takedown (AFAIK), but he's only 12-0.

Brackets: http://i.turner.ncaa.com/...7/03/08/brackets.pdf

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I'm betting Nick Suriano beats Thomas Gilman at 125.
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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [Sanuk] [ In reply to ]
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Sanuk wrote:
I'm betting Nick Suriano beats Thomas Gilman at 125.

Suriano was on crutches days ago. Pulled the "walk on the mat, injury default at :01" at B1G so that he'd be eligible for NCAAs. Apparently, limped off the mat Major sprained ankle a couple of weeks ago. He might not get past the Lizard if he isn't fully healed.

A lot of people would like to see Gilman lose.

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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [Sanuk] [ In reply to ]
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Suriano will be lucky to be able to walk into the arena. He looked terrible just getting to weigh ins last weekend.

IF he wrestles, his path to the finals is hard. Lizak/Terao in the quarters (both are crazy dangerous), Joey Dance in the semis will exploit any weakness.

I would be surprised if we get to see Gilman v Suriano. But, if we do, great. I like our odds.



133 is crazy -- 1,2,3,4,7,8 are all champ material.


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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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Should be good fun. Kind of hard to believe you can be hurt and go 2 and out at your conference tournament and still get a 3 seed.

Would be pretty sweet to see McKee pull out a few upsets and have an All Minnesota semifinal with him and Gross and 133.

The guys you highlighted do seem almost untouchable at this point, but crazy happens this time of year.
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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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Kevin Jack from NC State for the upset at 141.
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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [dogchili94] [ In reply to ]
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Kevin Jack from NC State for the upset at 141.

Heil may be the most uninspiring and boring undefeated wrestler in the tourney, so that won't be a disappointment.

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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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Do you watch it through NCAA.com? or is there a better site?
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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [schroeder] [ In reply to ]
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schroeder wrote:
Do you watch it through NCAA.com? or is there a better site?

ESPN will be streaming all matches on all mats for the first five sessions (through semifinals), on ESPNU (I think this is TV, but it isn't one of the mat cameras) and ESPN3. ESPN will broadcast the finals Saturday night.

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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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Saw reports this morning that Suriano is out of the tournament.
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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [Runningwithbees] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah, that's a shame for him and a big blow to Penn State's chances for the team title.



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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [Runningwithbees] [ In reply to ]
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Runningwithbees wrote:
Saw reports this morning that Suriano is out of the tournament.

It also sucks for the guy who likely would have been in had Suriano been pulled before the deadline (that
person would probably have been Baughman from Cornell). Not to mention the fact that they can't reseed, so
the #4 will still have to wrestle the #1, instead of the #2 (who the #4 beat this year).

Cael Sanderson said, just a few days ago, that Suriano was in, and wrestling at that very moment. Then he decides that, no, after almost four weeks since the injury, that Suriano is not in. So Buffalo takes an early three point lead in the team standings.

Also just announced that Michigan's 149er, Zach Hall, is not in. No reason given.

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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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I didn't even think about the cluster that causes with bracketing. Yeah that blows for the last man out.

Bored at work this morning so I did a little research. The 133# bracket contains 11 MN State Championships between Gross, Mckee, and Sykora.
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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [Runningwithbees] [ In reply to ]
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Gophers are in 2nd! Look out world!!
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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [Runningwithbees] [ In reply to ]
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And the 174 bracket contains 6 MN State Champions between Mark Hall and... Mark Hall.



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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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That does suck for your guy from Cornell, Ken. I would like to think that Sanderson really thought Suriano might be able to go. I can't imagine that he was trying to screw anyone intentionally.

I would have liked to watch Suriano and Gillman again, if that would have happened.



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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [teekona] [ In reply to ]
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Hahahaha too true. Gophers are now down to 4th... maybe next year?
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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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Nickal must have had somewhere to be this afternoon. TF in 3:21
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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [teekona] [ In reply to ]
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I would have liked to watch Suriano and Gillman again, if that would have happened.

I picked Suriano to beat Gilman earlier in the threat. I knew he had an injury but after the injury Sanderson kind of shrugged it off as not being serious. There are other really good wrestlers there but I think Suriano was the biggest threat to Gilman. Now I don't see anyone beating him. Gilman had a wild match with Ethan Lizak of Minnesota, pinning him after trailing 0-8 but if they meet, Gilman's going to be ready for him.

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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [Sanuk] [ In reply to ]
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I would pay good money to see a Lizak Gillman match.

I was joking about the Gophers doing anything in the team competition this year, but I just watched Brett Pfarr's opening match and he worked his ass off to get the major late in the 3rd. I still don't think they have the team to do anything major this year, but that effort is inspiring.
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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [Runningwithbees] [ In reply to ]
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In case you didn't see it. This was the match where Gilman was trailing 8-0.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoZ7FGc4dD4
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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [Sanuk] [ In reply to ]
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Day 1 in the books. Penn state already looks to be running away with it, but there are 4 teams within touching distance.



Tommy Thorn(14) upsetting Mckenna(3) at 41 or Theobold (15) upsetting Collica (2) at 49 are the two big upsets of the day.
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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [Runningwithbees] [ In reply to ]
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I'm surprised Penn State is in this position without Suriano wrestling. Their guys came through with lots of bonus points and no one got upset. Martin losing for OSU will hurt the Buckeyes. He beat Hall in the Big 10 tourney.



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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [teekona] [ In reply to ]
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Some moving and shaking already this morning. Iowa off to a tremendous start on the day.

10 seed from Wyoming upsets the 2 seed to get in to the semis. Damn I wish I didn't have to work today.
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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [Runningwithbees] [ In reply to ]
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Day 1 in the books. Penn state already looks to be running away with it, but there are 4 teams within touching distance.

It looks like the top seeds got through but there is no stopping Penn State, barring some major upsets. Iowa and OSU have to be happy with their performance but they just don't have the firepower to stop Penn.

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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [Sanuk] [ In reply to ]
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OSU also just had Collica at 149 who was the 2 seed got eliminated this morning after getting upset last night. Ouch.
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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [Runningwithbees] [ In reply to ]
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# 2 seed Kemerer from Iowa was pinned...
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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [Sanuk] [ In reply to ]
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"It looks like the top seeds got through but there is no stopping Penn State, barring some major upsets. Iowa and OSU have to be happy with their performance but they just don't have the firepower to stop Penn."

No to put too fine of a point on it, but Penn is an Ivy League school in Philadelphia (and Trump's alma mater) and Penn State is a sports factory in the middle of the state. Anyway, carry on...

Edit: Before the giant alumni base of PSU starts roaring, Penn State is also a fine university.






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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [teekona] [ In reply to ]
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I am going to go ahead and say that of the three of us commenting on this thread, nobody is going to nit pick that too much.
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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [Runningwithbees] [ In reply to ]
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Good point.



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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [teekona] [ In reply to ]
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No to put too fine of a point on it, but Penn is an Ivy League school in Philadelphia (and Trump's alma mater) and Penn State is a sports factory in the middle of the state. Anyway, carry on...

To be honest I didn't know that.

I guess it's safer to say PSU (unless there are more schools that can't think of a unique name...)


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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [teekona] [ In reply to ]
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Quarterfinals looked like a fun round. Glancing through the brackets I am noticing that it doesn't look like there will be many big team match ups in the semis and finals. I see two Iowa-Penn State matches in the Semis, but other than that there isn't much. I don't know if it would matter when Penn State already has a 14 point lead though.
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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [Sanuk] [ In reply to ]
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Yes, Penn is the University of Pennsylvania and Penn State is Pennsylvania State University.



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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [Sanuk] [ In reply to ]
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# 2 seed Kemerer from Iowa was pinned...

Cornell had four wins today in their last matches: two Peterson pins, a straight fall, and an OT decision.

Crazy that the OT win was their undefeated #1!

Palacio (over Kemerer) is one of the most entertaining wrestlers around. He doesn't dominate like Retherford, Nolf, or Nickal, but he manages to create crazy situations that he always takes advantage of. He is a killer on bottom, nobody can out scramble him in neutral. You gotta hit a blast double to take him down. He is his own worst enemy at times.

Realbuto looks as good as he has ever: two 2nd period TFs and a 1st period fall in the quarters.

Dean looks uncharacteristically sloppy. Dechow has always wrestled him tough.

Womack ("Bama") is a calmer version of Palacio.

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No to put too fine of a point on it, but Penn is an Ivy League school in Philadelphia (and Trump's alma mater) and Penn State is a sports factory in the middle of the state. Anyway, carry on...

To be honest I didn't know that.

I guess it's safer to say PSU (unless there are more schools that can't think of a unique name...)


Some call it "State Pen[n]".

When I was in college, the Philly school was always called "Penn", but I hear more people call it "UPenn" these days.

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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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Maybe they're trying to distance themselves from their Alumni President...



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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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Gilman loses at 125 semis in sudden death. Former hawkeye turned SDSU jackrabbit (my wife cheered for them in the 90's) SETH gross wins and advances to finals. I hate Iowa. Now if Duke could also lose in The tourney...
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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [ChrisT] [ In reply to ]
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I said this in a different thread, but I am a HUGE fan of Gross. Having wrestled him before will do that. His story is interesting too. Did some stupid things his freshman year at Iowa and got kicked out. Told Bruno at SDSU that it wouldn't happen again and I think he has redeemed himself to some degree.

My Gophers have shown pretty well. Lizak dominated that match, and with Gilman losing, I would think he has a great chance to be a national champion now.
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Runningwithbees wrote:
I said this in a different thread, but I am a HUGE fan of Gross. Having wrestled him before will do that. His story is interesting too. Did some stupid things his freshman year at Iowa and got kicked out. Told Bruno at SDSU that it wouldn't happen again and I think he has redeemed himself to some degree.

My Gophers have shown pretty well. Lizak dominated that match, and with Gilman losing, I would think he has a great chance to be a national champion now.

So how did you do against him?
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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [ChrisT] [ In reply to ]
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I wanted to wait until tomorrow so I could humble brag haha. I won 11-10. I was senior and I think he was a freshman at the time.
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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [klehner] [ In reply to ]
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MIZ----------ZOU
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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [Runningwithbees] [ In reply to ]
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Great match but a tough loss for Gross today. Must have been how he felt back in HS against you.
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Edit: Before the giant alumni base of PSU starts roaring, Penn State is also a fine university.

Mrs sphere and I are both surrounded by Penn State grads at work. The cult-like adoration for all things PSU is a little unsettling. Multiple PSU-themed weddings already, and a PSU themed baby name to boot.

We call them Liontologists. Seems fitting.

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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [ChrisT] [ In reply to ]
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HAHA. He was also pretty undersized then too. I think he would kick my ass up and down the floor now if we were to rematch.

I was dissappointed with Lizak's match at 125. Didn't do a whole lot and never really took any chances to try to win the match.

Wow did Penn State dominate. 5 titles is incredible.
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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [Runningwithbees] [ In reply to ]
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And Duke loses in basketball. My weekend is complete
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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [ChrisT] [ In reply to ]
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Take that shit to the March Madness thread!!


Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [ChrisT] [ In reply to ]
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Iowa still produced the best moment of the tourney when Cory Clark threw Terry to the mat after he won.
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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [saltman] [ In reply to ]
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Meh- I suppose, but Clark didn't want to do it. If you watched the replay, Brands says "Throw me" and Clark says no, but he tells him again, and he does it. Trying to show that they are as fun as PSU? :-)



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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [sphere] [ In reply to ]
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I feel your pain. I know a couple who are good friends and both graduated from PSU. They're not obnoxious like some folks I see who have their cars plastered with decals and stickers, but when they get together with their old college chums, it's like they are back at Happy Valley again.

I told one of them once that I never really cared for Paterno (this was pre Sandusky scandal) and Penn State's program, and they looked at me like I had two heads.

BTW, Liontologists is awesome.



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If you know Terry that is what makes it fantastic.
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Re: College wrestling: 2017 NCAA Championships [saltman] [ In reply to ]
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Well, I don't know him, so I guess I'm missing what makes it so fantastic. I know that they were both great wrestlers and I watch them on TV at Big 10 and NCAA tourneys once a year, so to me they seem at times to be (very passionate) lunatics.



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