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AlaskaMan 140.6
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Hate the name but just saw this

http://www.active.com/...treme-triathlon-2017

Since so many said they wanted an Ironman Alaska this should fill fast, oh wait its not Mdot

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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [FF Boots] [ In reply to ]
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Is it wetsuit legal?

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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [FF Boots] [ In reply to ]
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Looks awesome. Thanks for the heads up.
You could warm up with Mount Marathon 11 days before. That would be a great double for an Alaskan Vacation.
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [oprfcc] [ In reply to ]
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that would be a brutal double, epic though

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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [FF Boots] [ In reply to ]
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Is that by the same folks that do Norseman?
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [fishgo] [ In reply to ]
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I know nothing about the event or who is putting it on, just saw this and thought some might be interested

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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [fishgo] [ In reply to ]
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looks like it

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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [FF Boots] [ In reply to ]
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You get 18 hours to finish, so it's not a real Ironman.
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [Sweeney] [ In reply to ]
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Sweeney wrote:
Is it wetsuit legal?
Is that in pink? :) Water temps would be in the mid 50s. Pacific ocean in the summer is barely at mid 60s 1500 miles south in Seattle area.

Full wetsuit, neoprene caps, and booties if they are allowed.
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [FF Boots] [ In reply to ]
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Someone from Texas...
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [fishgo] [ In reply to ]
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The production company, OnUrMark, is top notch. They produce some of the best races in Houston and the guy at the helm is a good cat.
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [SummitAK] [ In reply to ]
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I'm surprised they would put it out there without any fanfare on allxtri.com, but they also don't seem to be corporate heavy...

From Allxtri - "three events together are the allXtri Trilogy and support each other in friendship." - not sure what that means in corporate speak...
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [Dilbert] [ In reply to ]
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Dilbert wrote:
Sweeney wrote:
Is it wetsuit legal?

Is that in pink? :) Water temps would be in the mid 50s. Pacific ocean in the summer is barely at mid 60s 1500 miles south in Seattle area.

Full wetsuit, neoprene caps, and booties if they are allowed.

From the rules:

  • Full wetsuits are mandatory as the swim course water temperature averages about 55°F/13°C in July. Neoprene swim caps, swim booties, earplugs, and Vasoline for your face and hands are highly recommended while in the water. Full swim hoods to protect your neck and head are also permitted. Swim gloves are not permitted at any time.

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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [FF Boots] [ In reply to ]
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This is very relevant to my interests. Hopefully this runs for a few years and I can get in shape to do this "race". I would be happy with finishing in last place.
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [renorider] [ In reply to ]
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renorider wrote:
looks like it

Doesn't look like it at all. It's more like a starter race due to the legit run course. Total elevation gain for the bike/run legs is not even half that of Swissman. And a pile of WTC Ironman races have more bike elevation... many substantially more. But the scenery is certainly spectacular.
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [FF Boots] [ In reply to ]
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Glad I don't do fulls!!

Funny thing about this for me: it would cost me basically the same to travel instate to do this race, as it would for me to participate in one outside...in warmer water...and warmer air...and warmer...

Although the, if it was a half...I'd do it for shits and giggles...but fuck that full nonsense!
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [FF Boots] [ In reply to ]
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The name is what it is because out of respect for the gracious state and those coming in internationally we named it after Alaska. Instantly everyone knows where it's at. Eliminates some questions and people having to look it up.

Wetsuits are mandatory. Temp hovers around 55 degrees most years but has dipped to low 50's in the past.

Bike course has less climbing than a handful of IMs and the extreme tris but 1) there aren't a lot of options in Alaska and 2) the winds and weather will more than make up for it. 3) scenery is unmatched.

Run course is far more challenging than IM. 5,000' with 4,000 in the last 10k up a mountain (dirt/Rock trails).

Nothing but respect for Norseman and X-Tri. I've done Norseman and am doing Celtman this year with Swissman to follow. They are all top notch. Looking to bring some of that challenge to The US.

Addressing the guy talking about temps... The other extreme tris say the same temp averages as us.... Keep in mind that's average. We are same latitude as Norseman and weather rolls in the same. Clouds, drizzle, cold temps and wind just as possible as Scotland and Norway. It has even been known to snow in July. Since it's unpredictable and first year, we put the averages.

Thanks everyone, let me know if you have any other questions.
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [Culley22] [ In reply to ]
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Also I'm not sure where you're traveling from but what my wife and I spent to go to Norway and what we have already spent to go to Scotland is already double what Alaska costs, at least from within the US. Totally worth the trip to Europe but Alaska is definately much cheaper. Especially on food and rental cars.
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [arpalaian] [ In reply to ]
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Don't get me wrong. I would have named it Alaska Extreme Triathlon, adding Man to the end is just cliché at this point, but that's just me. I'm old and grumpy

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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [FF Boots] [ In reply to ]
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Hahaha fair enough but keep in mind if someone was talking about it it doesn't make a lot of sense when someone says "I did Alaska" unless they say it all. They can say "I did Alaskaman" and leave the other words out. Although.... That just sounds dirty now that I say it. 😳😂
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [arpalaian] [ In reply to ]
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or if someone googles alaskaman the first thing that comes up is match.com and the second is a site (alaskamen.com) for Alaskan men looking for brides

no disrespect I think the event looks awesome it's just a peeve of mine as so many tris just drop -man on the end instead of being creative

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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [arpalaian] [ In reply to ]
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I think this is great.
The goal with this types of triathlon should be to give the athletes a unique experience in fabulous nature.

Glad to see something like this in the USA.
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [arpalaian] [ In reply to ]
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arpalaian wrote:
Bike course has less climbing than a handful of IMs and the extreme tris but 1) there aren't a lot of options in Alaska and 2) the winds and weather will more than make up for it. 3) scenery is unmatched.

It would be AWESOME if the Turnagain Arm winds crank up on race day and have racers either going 30 or 10 at IM effort! Most miserable rides I've ever had ended coming back from Turnagain Pass to ANC!
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [FF Boots] [ In reply to ]
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Interesting that the active.com link shows that AlaskaMan is trademarked, but a data search of trademarks shows it's not. But AlaskaMen is, it's a magazine that highlights Alaskan Men.
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [thisgirl] [ In reply to ]
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FYI trademarks take 1-2 years to go through AND a TM is basically a placeholder until then and becomes a R when it's officially registered. What you speak of isn't correct and the magazine is not triathlon or even close to the same business so odds are it will not be taken into an account when the trademark is under review. Thanks.
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [AKCrafty] [ In reply to ]
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Agreed, either way it would be epic. Super fast or super grueling, and it doesn't really matter. Everyone will get their fill on the run.
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [arpalaian] [ In reply to ]
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arpalaian wrote:
Also I'm not sure where you're traveling from but what my wife and I spent to go to Norway and what we have already spent to go to Scotland is already double what Alaska costs, at least from within the US. Totally worth the trip to Europe but Alaska is definately much cheaper. Especially on food and rental cars.
I live IN Alaska...granted in the North Western portion of it. Instate travel would be around $400 RT from Nome to Anchorage. Top it off that July is TOURIST TIME and the cost of everything goes through the roof. I can't even imagine what the lodging would be like down in Seward for this as the town doesn't have that many places and still costs a pretty penny.

For people wanting to see Alaska, this is a destination race. BEAUTIFUL time of year, and beautiful area to be doing it in. But it WON'T be cheap, and logistics will be a pain in the ass.

All that being said, if you had a half I'd do it. I think fulls are for crazy people. Lol
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [FF Boots] [ In reply to ]
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At least nobody is going to overheat
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [TriTamp] [ In reply to ]
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Not so sure about that. Having the sun up all the times means it gets hot up there. No time for the atmosphere to cool off.
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [thisgirl] [ In reply to ]
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Lol. No. Heat won't be a problem.
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [arpalaian] [ In reply to ]
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I am so on board with this. I have been hoping for more races like this. I am trying for the Norseman lottery again for 2017 (4th time trying to get in). If I get denied again I would seriously consider this. I look forward to more info... Best of luck with this race!!
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [FF Boots] [ In reply to ]
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Just some facts about the race director in case someone thinks this might be some fly-by-night operation:

Aaron owns two tris that typically have around 2,000 (with sprint and Olympic)entries, the largest single event sprint in the country, a 5k/10k run race series that has over 10,000 entries, a half marathon series at 6,000 and a kids tri that sold out (a week maybe) at 1,200 entries.

This event will be spectacular.
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [Culley22] [ In reply to ]
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Just bought a round trip ticket for this July from Houston for $600. 2 nights in Seward and one in anchorage for under $200 per night per location. Rental car was about $300 for 3 nights. So flight hotel and car for 3 days was just over $1,000. Just FYI.

Logistics are easy if they follow the bike, flight and hotel info I have on the site while working with our local bike shop and choosing from the numerous hotels we have listed. In the next couple weeks we will go a step further and try and get discount event rates in room blocks. Registration will go on sale and sellout in July of this year 1 year in advance, so we will strongly urge and remind all athletes to make reservations ASAP or risk having to drive further. Even if someone didn't get a room in Girdwood after, the drive to anchorage is 40 min and there's plenty of rooms there. Already working with Millers Landing in Seward to arrange bookings to accommodate everyone. We have thought it out and done the research.
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [thisgirl] [ In reply to ]
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Not true
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [tonyalta] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you : )
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [arpalaian] [ In reply to ]
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Showed this to the wife and we will be registering. Always great to see another independant race starting up!

Seems like a perfect combo for destination vaca and race.

Will we be allowed to carry a gun for bear encounters? (Sort of pink). Orcas?
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [davejustdave] [ In reply to ]
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No gun but you will be provided with a small little bell to tie to one of your shoes for part of or possibly the entire run. Something locals do and recommend as to not startle the wildlife just in case and even more so to alert other runners and even bikes on some of the trails. Plenty of room but some of the turns are tight. Better safe than sorry.

As for the orcas. More humpback sightings than orcas and I'm not aware of any whale attacks, well, ever.... but the humpbacks are known for cruising the coast and checking out the fishing boats and we will have some as rescue boats that morning so you never know what you'll see. An orca swam under some of us (deep) at Norseman last year, one of the coolest things ever!
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [FF Boots] [ In reply to ]
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What a rad looking race! Love the race awards: you'll be getting a finisher shirt (colour depends on your finishing time), some Ulu knife and the three winners will get awarded mining pans. This year's schedule is full, but next year I guess this would be a great reason for the first time Alaska visit.
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [kgro] [ In reply to ]
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kgro wrote:
What a rad looking race! Love the race awards: you'll be getting a finisher shirt (colour depends on your finishing time), some Ulu knife and the three winners will get awarded mining pans. This year's schedule is full, but next year I guess this would be a great reason for the first time Alaska visit.

The first race is next year.

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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [arpalaian] [ In reply to ]
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Looks pretty awesome. I am coincidentally going on vacation next week and two of our stops are spending 3 nights at the Aleyska resort and 3 nights in Seward. The website for the race gave me some great ideas for workouts to do while I am there. Anybody familiar with this part of Alaska have some other great hikes / bike rides / trail runs / or kayaks to recommend? We are going to spend some days in Anchorage, Aleyska resort, Homer, and Seward and we are renting a car. Thanks!
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [arpalaian] [ In reply to ]
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Doing a quick check, it looks like it is better (cheaper) to fly in to Anchorage and then drive to the venue as opposed to flying directly to Seward?

(probably easier for car rentals too.)
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [FF Boots] [ In reply to ]
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I've driven that route. That would be epic as hell. Alaska is home to the toughest and most insane people I've ever met. Makes Texans look like little babies.

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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [Ironfan] [ In reply to ]
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Ironfan wrote:
Doing a quick check, it looks like it is better (cheaper) to fly in to Anchorage and then drive to the venue as opposed to flying directly to Seward?

(probably easier for car rentals too.)

Definitely, AND you won't regret the drive down!!! That is a beautiful stretch of road right there!!

As I said earlier, this will be Tourist season up here, so the road traffic has great potential to be "not fun", but still worthy of the drive. Rental cars are available right there in the airport (real easy to get to) and driving from the AP to Seward is real easy as well. But AGAIN, it's tourist season, so book early!! I can't stress that enough.

For those that race (or do) fulls, and have wanted to come to Alaska...this is perfect for you!!
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [Jon] [ In reply to ]
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Jon wrote:
Looks pretty awesome. I am coincidentally going on vacation next week and two of our stops are spending 3 nights at the Aleyska resort and 3 nights in Seward. The website for the race gave me some great ideas for workouts to do while I am there. Anybody familiar with this part of Alaska have some other great hikes / bike rides / trail runs / or kayaks to recommend? We are going to spend some days in Anchorage, Aleyska resort, Homer, and Seward and we are renting a car. Thanks!

I don't live down there anymore, but I will say there are TONS of options for you. Seward has MANY (Mt. Marathon being a fun one), as well as kayaking, and lots of trails. Girdwood (Alyeska) also will have a full trail system. You won't be without options. Hopefully someone will chime in and point you in a few good directions. I will remind you that this IS Alaska, and bears are plentiful so if you go for hikes and such make sure to be prepared (firearm, bears pray, slower running partner, etc...)
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [Culley22] [ In reply to ]
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+1. The drive from Anchorage to Seward is gorgeous, not to be missed.
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [Ironfan] [ In reply to ]
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FOR SURE fly into Anchorage and drive down. It is a couple hours but a beautiful drive and worth every second. Plus there's our official bike shop "Chain Reaction Cycles" in Anchorage, on the way. That's the last one you'll see. Rental cars aren't too bad. Should be plenty of accommodations as long as people book 9-12 months in advance. If you wait it will fill up.



Ironfan wrote:
Doing a quick check, it looks like it is better (cheaper) to fly in to Anchorage and then drive to the venue as opposed to flying directly to Seward?

(probably easier for car rentals too.)
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [FF Boots] [ In reply to ]
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I drove all those roads when there for a work trip and I WILL wow this might be the prettiest ironman in the world. I would not think it would be very hilly. There are not many roads around there and it would be mostly rollers with good pavement. Only thing I would be worried about would be the bugs and cruise ship people..... both tend to show up in july
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [FF Boots] [ In reply to ]
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Wrote a little piece about it on the front page - http://www.slowtwitch.com/...treme_Tri_j5780.html

I have to agree, Norseman, Celtman, Alaskaman, Swissman all get a failing grade in the name department. On the other hand, Inferno gets an A+. I feel like these races should all be named something out of Dante...

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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [Rappstar] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for the writeup Jordan!
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [arpalaian] [ In reply to ]
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Hi,

I PMed you so sorry if this is a duplicate, but will there be an age limit on the support runner for the last 6 miles?
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [Rappstar] [ In reply to ]
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Midnight Sun Triathlon...Last Frontier Triathlon...

Although from a marketing perspective, just having the name Alaska in something brings it value. Just look at all the wild salmon products and tv reality shows that are out there.

On a side note, here's a video from the Alaska Women's Gold Nugget Triathlon that took place in Anchorage last week...http://www.ktuu.com/...thlon-380017351.html
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [AKCrafty] [ In reply to ]
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Holy shit. How did she not shit her shorts?
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [spasmus] [ In reply to ]
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18 & over


spasmus wrote:
Hi,

I PMed you so sorry if this is a duplicate, but will there be an age limit on the support runner for the last 6 miles?
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [AKCrafty] [ In reply to ]
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All about the marketing. 1) Having Alaska in the name instantly tells people where it's at 2) Everyone is in love with IM so having man on the end helps tell the distance almost instantly and relate it to the 140.6 distance. Although it's totally different from IM in pretty much every way it can be while remaining long course and a triathlon, it still helps with marketing.

As for the bears... It's Alaska. There's also moose and whales and other animals out there. It's part of the experience. Odds are you're not going to run into any of them but we will have the parks service talk and give tips on it prior to the race. We will make sure to give all tips and advice we can to keep everyone as safe as possible.

People should use common sense and if they do encounter any wildlife, stay away, don't panic, and obviously don't get closer. Surprised these women kept moving forward instead of completely stopping and even moving back.

Respect Wildlife
  • Give wildlife plenty of space
  • Do not approach or provoke wildlife
  • Do not feed wildlife or leave food out
  • Be aware and respectful of animal denning areas
  • Leave "orphaned" or sick animals alone

Respect the Environment
  • Pack it in, pack it out
  • Do not leave food in your car
  • Tread lightly in sensitive habitats



Outdoor Safety Tips
  • Buddy up: you are safer in a group
  • Make noise: this will prevent you from surprising wildlife
  • Use your senses: stay aware of your surroundings (headphones not recommended)
  • Carry Bear Spray: have it accessible and know how to use it
  • Back away from wildlife slowly, never run from a bear
  • Handle food, trash, fish and other attractants responsibly




AKCrafty wrote:
Midnight Sun Triathlon...Last Frontier Triathlon...

Although from a marketing perspective, just having the name Alaska in something brings it value. Just look at all the wild salmon products and tv reality shows that are out there.

On a side note, here's a video from the Alaska Women's Gold Nugget Triathlon that took place in Anchorage last week...http://www.ktuu.com/...thlon-380017351.html
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [arpalaian] [ In reply to ]
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arpalaian wrote:
Surprised these women kept moving forward instead of completely stopping and even moving back.

They're Alaskan!... and that scene is fairly common along the foothills area in Anchorage.

And totally not trying to rag on the name AlaskaMan. I totally get it. From a business perspective, it's spot on for triathletes.
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [Rappstar] [ In reply to ]
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Rappstar wrote:
Wrote a little piece about it on the front page - http://www.slowtwitch.com/...treme_Tri_j5780.html

I have to agree, Norseman, Celtman, Alaskaman, Swissman all get a failing grade in the name department. On the other hand, Inferno gets an A+. I feel like these races should all be named something out of Dante...

Like "LimboMan", where everyone is already dressed in their wetsuit, just waiting for the rolling start, but it just never comes?

Sorry, as a Dante enthusiast myself, I simply couldn't resist.
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [arpalaian] [ In reply to ]
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Not that some common sense doesn't apply, but except for the last miles of the run which climb Alyeska Ski Resort trails, the entire course is within the highway ROW. So backcountry tips aren't all that applicable. In the summer along the Seward Highway I would suggest a lot of tips about being prepared for traffic - recreational vehicles, trucks with boat trailers, tour buses, etc. Since the ROW traverses USFS areas there may be additional stipulations, but if a participant can make it out of Resurrection Bay safely, their biggest animal risk will be of the two-legged variety.

The Bird Creek to Girdwood Trail also has plenty of bear traffic traversing it and not much available for detours once south of Bird Point so participants that have to reverse direction won't have any real options until the wildlife is cleared or moves on.

arpalaian wrote:

People should use common sense and if they do encounter any wildlife, stay away, don't panic, and obviously don't get closer. Surprised these women kept moving forward instead of completely stopping and even moving back.

Respect Wildlife
  • Give wildlife plenty of space
  • Do not approach or provoke wildlife
  • Do not feed wildlife or leave food out
  • Be aware and respectful of animal denning areas
  • Leave "orphaned" or sick animals alone

Respect the Environment
  • Pack it in, pack it out
  • Do not leave food in your car
  • Tread lightly in sensitive habitats
Outdoor Safety Tips
  • Buddy up: you are safer in a group
  • Make noise: this will prevent you from surprising wildlife
  • Use your senses: stay aware of your surroundings (headphones not recommended)
  • Carry Bear Spray: have it accessible and know how to use it
  • Back away from wildlife slowly, never run from a bear
  • Handle food, trash, fish and other attractants responsibly
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [SummitAK] [ In reply to ]
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Again, "Extreme Tri." You're in Alaska doing a long course Tri. Elements, wildlife and traffic will be things you come across. It's 140.6 miles, no way to eliminate it. Heck there's been bears at IMCA.

We will educate everyone to our best ability and they will finish and have the time of their lives.

I'm pretty sure that there's very few doing this race that are concerned about their finish time being anything close to a PR. If they are, they may want to look elsewhere. The extreme tris are about the experience. If I had to wait 5 min for a bear to cross at a safe distance I wouldn't be too upset about it.

True that 2 legged creatures are probably the biggest issue, that's the case with most races. That's also why it's on a Saturday as every Alaskan resident and official I've spoken with says traffic is worse heading north on Sun than Sat. So we switched to the better day. Also why we are starting at 5am.


SummitAK wrote:
Not that some common sense doesn't apply, but except for the last miles of the run which climb Alyeska Ski Resort trails, the entire course is within the highway ROW. So backcountry tips aren't all that applicable. In the summer along the Seward Highway I would suggest a lot of tips about being prepared for traffic - recreational vehicles, trucks with boat trailers, tour buses, etc. Since the ROW traverses USFS areas there may be additional stipulations, but if a participant can make it out of Resurrection Bay safely, their biggest animal risk will be of the two-legged variety.

The Bird Creek to Girdwood Trail also has plenty of bear traffic traversing it and not much available for detours once south of Bird Point so participants that have to reverse direction won't have any real options until the wildlife is cleared or moves on.

arpalaian wrote:

People should use common sense and if they do encounter any wildlife, stay away, don't panic, and obviously don't get closer. Surprised these women kept moving forward instead of completely stopping and even moving back.

Respect Wildlife
  • Give wildlife plenty of space
  • Do not approach or provoke wildlife
  • Do not feed wildlife or leave food out
  • Be aware and respectful of animal denning areas
  • Leave "orphaned" or sick animals alone

Respect the Environment
  • Pack it in, pack it out
  • Do not leave food in your car
  • Tread lightly in sensitive habitats
Outdoor Safety Tips
  • Buddy up: you are safer in a group
  • Make noise: this will prevent you from surprising wildlife
  • Use your senses: stay aware of your surroundings (headphones not recommended)
  • Carry Bear Spray: have it accessible and know how to use it
  • Back away from wildlife slowly, never run from a bear
  • Handle food, trash, fish and other attractants responsibly
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [arpalaian] [ In reply to ]
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Planning a guy trip with race as the centerpiece. Where is the awards ceremony on Sunday? ie...Are we back down in Seward, or would it make more sense to stay in Anchorage or otherwise after the race. Really looking forward to this race...I love me some epic!
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [markwhickman] [ In reply to ]
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As of now they are at Alyeska Resort in Girdwood, the finish. If that changes they will be in Anchorage. Not Seward. Remember only top 3 m/f get actual awards. The rest are finisher's shirts and knives. Plus the group photo. More to come.

markwhickman wrote:
Planning a guy trip with race as the centerpiece. Where is the awards ceremony on Sunday? ie...Are we back down in Seward, or would it make more sense to stay in Anchorage or otherwise after the race. Really looking forward to this race...I love me some epic!
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [kgro] [ In reply to ]
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kgro wrote:
Rappstar wrote:
Wrote a little piece about it on the front page - http://www.slowtwitch.com/...treme_Tri_j5780.html

I have to agree, Norseman, Celtman, Alaskaman, Swissman all get a failing grade in the name department. On the other hand, Inferno gets an A+. I feel like these races should all be named something out of Dante...

Like "LimboMan", where everyone is already dressed in their wetsuit, just waiting for the rolling start, but it just never comes?

Sorry, as a Dante enthusiast myself, I simply couldn't resist.

I nominate this for a contender as post of the year. Bravo.

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The reference to IM Whistler is right on point. Except for the exposed ocean swim and mountain running segment, your course will be very similar, except with much less vertical bike climbing and no closure of a very busy highway.

The IM Whistler run course was also in a ski resort community. I was on course at Whistler for the bears. There were multiple points of ingress and egress for that situation. PR and course time wasn't the consideration in my post. It was addressing access and safety. The run segment I mentioned is 5-6 miles (longer if avoiding railroad track crossing shorter if an emergency dictates a crossing) with a single maintenance access about halfway. It runs cliffside along the toe of the mountains along Turnagain Arm.

I wouldn't even have commented, but your wildlife tips read like they came out of a park brochure and I think participants in this event deserve spot-on information, that is applicable to what they can expect on race day. Do you really intend to allow participants to use headphones? Or carry bear spray?

Traffic will always be a crapshoot. This is the only road for access to Whittier, Seward and the Kenai peninsula. It is the busiest road in the state during the summer. Fishing, tourism and recreation boost traffic a huge amount. With the variable salmon run openings you can have people trying to pad their quota by spanning midnight which makes for strange traffic hours. I think there is sometimes a dipnet opening that time of year too, which brings out all kinds of interesting characters. There is an on-again, off-again cycling TT between ANC and SWD that typically alternates direction by season. It is held on a Sunday morning and now requires a good taillight for participants (also disallows discs, but that is another story).

You mention having a ticket and accommodations, but it sounds like this is for 2017. Are you going to pre-drive, pre-swim, pre-bike or pre-run any of the course in Summer 2016 for an idea of conditions for next summer?

Your statement about everyone finishing can't be guaranteed. The weather alone will dictate much of the day as it does at any triathlon. Though I agree, many will have the time of their lives.


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Again, "Extreme Tri." You're in Alaska doing a long course Tri. Elements, wildlife and traffic will be things you come across. It's 140.6 miles, no way to eliminate it. Heck there's been bears at IMCA.

We will educate everyone to our best ability and they will finish and have the time of their lives.

I'm pretty sure that there's very few doing this race that are concerned about their finish time being anything close to a PR. If they are, they may want to look elsewhere. The extreme tris are about the experience. If I had to wait 5 min for a bear to cross at a safe distance I wouldn't be too upset about it.

True that 2 legged creatures are probably the biggest issue, that's the case with most races. That's also why it's on a Saturday as every Alaskan resident and official I've spoken with says traffic is worse heading north on Sun than Sat. So we switched to the better day. Also why we are starting at 5am.
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Is it wetsuit legal?
I think I read somewhere that it's actually Dry Suit required. ;)

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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [arpalaian] [ In reply to ]
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It looks like an incredibly stupid race. Thus very appealing! One of my colleagues is from Seward. Said the whole area is spectacular.

Given the Leo movie, the bears, you could call it Revenant man though (even though it wasn't in AK) ;-) Or maybe that would be bad luck.
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [Rappstar] [ In reply to ]
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That was a nice write-up!
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [SummitAK] [ In reply to ]
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Again, we are putting on an extreme Tri. It is extreme because of many things, not just terrain and total elevation gain. Planning, weather conditions, water, open roads/highways, wildlife, and beyond.

The headphones reference of course is a typo and will be removed. I thought I eliminated it from everywhere. Obviously not but I will. Participants will be educated on ALL potential issues we can think of with Alaska State Parks during our athlete briefing.

I am aware of how tourist season works. I'm aware of weather, water temp, traffic patterns and wildlife. I am not from Alaska but my friends are and they've lived in that area a while. I have also done a year's worth of work on the race and talked with countless people in all cities. I don't claim to know it all and I certainly don't claim to know more than someone who lives there but I'm not totally ignorant to the things you speak of.

Front lights and rear blinking lights are required, as it states in the guide.

As for bears.... First, taking into account all the Alaskan residents and officials I've spoken with, a bear encounter is very rare and statistics support that. You never know though, right?

There are plenty of cases of spray making a bear situation MUCH worse. From the Alaskans I've spoken with a horn works better and bells sometimes work sometimes don't and typically are better to just make sure you don't startle anything. Seems as though every situation is different and common sense and awareness seems to be the best defense.

We are most likely not going to make it mandatory for an athlete to carry anything to do with bears. There's too much risk of self injury, injury to others, or it just not working in the situation. However, we will list out precautionary measures and products they can carry if they want and may even have them for purchase, at cost, during packet pickup.

Having MTB medical response that is trained with wildlife in those 5-6 miles and throughout the course will help if anything were to happen. Of course there will be a plan for everything you speak of. We run a tight ship and we are 13-14 months out. I'd say for being that far out considering all we have accomplished this far, we have done a pretty good job.

Myself, Tim DeBoom, and a friend are coming down this July and swimming the course, driving the bike course and running the run course there and back (52-miles) training for the Leadville 100. We would never put a race on blind. In over a decade of race directing and 60+ large scale events never once have we done that.

You also mentioned not every athlete will finish. Yes, of course, there will most likely be at least 1 if not many more, that, for whatever reason, don't make it to the line, as is the case with every race in the entire world. I simply meant that a bear on the trail will not stop everyone from finishing the race.

Feel free to email me at aaron@akxtri.com with any further issues you have. Also.... If you want to be part of the solution, let me know, we can always use more people on our team. Thanks. Have a great weekend.


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The reference to IM Whistler is right on point. Except for the exposed ocean swim and mountain running segment, your course will be very similar, except with much less vertical bike climbing and no closure of a very busy highway.

The IM Whistler run course was also in a ski resort community. I was on course at Whistler for the bears. There were multiple points of ingress and egress for that situation. PR and course time wasn't the consideration in my post. It was addressing access and safety. The run segment I mentioned is 5-6 miles (longer if avoiding railroad track crossing shorter if an emergency dictates a crossing) with a single maintenance access about halfway. It runs cliffside along the toe of the mountains along Turnagain Arm.

I wouldn't even have commented, but your wildlife tips read like they came out of a park brochure and I think participants in this event deserve spot-on information, that is applicable to what they can expect on race day. Do you really intend to allow participants to use headphones? Or carry bear spray?

Traffic will always be a crapshoot. This is the only road for access to Whittier, Seward and the Kenai peninsula. It is the busiest road in the state during the summer. Fishing, tourism and recreation boost traffic a huge amount. With the variable salmon run openings you can have people trying to pad their quota by spanning midnight which makes for strange traffic hours. I think there is sometimes a dipnet opening that time of year too, which brings out all kinds of interesting characters. There is an on-again, off-again cycling TT between ANC and SWD that typically alternates direction by season. It is held on a Sunday morning and now requires a good taillight for participants (also disallows discs, but that is another story).

You mention having a ticket and accommodations, but it sounds like this is for 2017. Are you going to pre-drive, pre-swim, pre-bike or pre-run any of the course in Summer 2016 for an idea of conditions for next summer?

Your statement about everyone finishing can't be guaranteed. The weather alone will dictate much of the day as it does at any triathlon. Though I agree, many will have the time of their lives.


arpalaian wrote:

Again, "Extreme Tri." You're in Alaska doing a long course Tri. Elements, wildlife and traffic will be things you come across. It's 140.6 miles, no way to eliminate it. Heck there's been bears at IMCA.

We will educate everyone to our best ability and they will finish and have the time of their lives.

I'm pretty sure that there's very few doing this race that are concerned about their finish time being anything close to a PR. If they are, they may want to look elsewhere. The extreme tris are about the experience. If I had to wait 5 min for a bear to cross at a safe distance I wouldn't be too upset about it.

True that 2 legged creatures are probably the biggest issue, that's the case with most races. That's also why it's on a Saturday as every Alaskan resident and official I've spoken with says traffic is worse heading north on Sun than Sat. So we switched to the better day. Also why we are starting at 5am.
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [CruseVegas] [ In reply to ]
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No. No dry suit required. It's 55 not 45. Wetsuit is required though.


CruseVegas wrote:
Sweeney wrote:
Is it wetsuit legal?
I think I read somewhere that it's actually Dry Suit required. ;)
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arpalaian wrote:
We would never put a race on blind. In over a decade of race directing and 60+ large scale events never once have we done that.

Some independent feedback about the planning skills of race director of AlaskaMan. He is the real deal and one of the best planners and anticipaters (might not be a real word) there are. I have participated in dozens of his races in the Greater Houston area and have yet to be disappointed. He found a solution for pretty much any problem years of race directing throws at you. I am sure an extreme event in nature's backyard will have it's own unique challenges but I am confident that he will continue to do a phenomenal job and have no doubt that he will perform at the same level for the AlaskaMan race.

Now, if I could just get my social coordinator to sign that permission slip (or travel along) for me racing AlaskaMan :P
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [arpalaian] [ In reply to ]
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Quick registration question: The banner on the website has an opening date / time of July 17, 3pm CST while Active (by clicking on registration link) has July 16, 12AM CDT. Which date should those of us planning to register online (i.e. me) mark on the calendar? I'm assuming the July 16 date is for the Moose Tooth kickoff party but want to make sure. Thanks!
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [FF Boots] [ In reply to ]
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COST???
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [ironmuffin] [ In reply to ]
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I'm not associated with the event but I saw the entry fee someplace on the website, maybe the guide book they posted.

I think it was $300 something

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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [arpalaian] [ In reply to ]
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So how did the race go? This is one race recap I'd love to read about from anyone that was there!
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So how did the race go? This is one race recap I'd love to read about from anyone that was there!

Looks like 1/3 of the field were DNS. Seems like a lot of people got caught up in the moment upon registration.

"I can't wait to do that!!!"

Then a couple of months later:
"No way I'm doing that!!!"

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The GMAN wrote:
exerciseaddict wrote:
So how did the race go? This is one race recap I'd love to read about from anyone that was there!


Looks like 1/3 of the field were DNS. Seems like a lot of people got caught up in the moment upon registration.

"I can't wait to do that!!!"

Then a couple of months later:
"No way I'm doing that!!!"

I know a few of the DNS, also some that pulled their name off the list so others could get in after it was sold out. Most of them have a strong enough resume of IM performances that they were well equipped to do the race. But when you need to sign up 365 days in advance for this to secure your spot...well life changes sometimes.

My fiancé helped crew the last 7 miles of the run on Alyeska for a friend. I was getting updates as they progressed. I've been on that mountain during the winter, but man some of those shots yesterday were unreal. A truly amazing setting for a great race.

I'm moving to Alaska next spring, definitely plan to be apart of this race next year as a crew member.

Hopefully this race brings attention to Alaska and everything that it has to offer endurance athletes, it's truly a massive playground for athletes. Then again, maybe it's best it stays a quiet secret.

Funny how Ironman cancels Racine's swim when temps were measured at 55 this morning for 1.2 miles, after Alaskaman starts at 4:30 in foggy conditions at 58 degrees for 2.7 miles.

These new type of races seem to really go back to the roots of the sport. My favorite race is still the now dead Leadman Bend Epic 250. I did it after doing an Ironman 2 weeks prior. It was amazing how different the energy and atmosphere were at each race.
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exerciseaddict wrote:
So how did the race go? This is one race recap I'd love to read about from anyone that was there!

from remote spectator perspective, they could have done much better.. no twitter feed or anything. They made participants use a cellphone tracking app after they swam instead of electronic chip timing. This means as a viewer you had to download the app too. But I found a link on their website to refresh their race results excel sheet. It looks like the winner finished in 11:18. I hope they got some good video clips, I saw a few pictures my wife posted of the athlete she assisted. Im wondering how it compared to norseman too, seems pretty similar of a course profile (if not a bit longer)
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [exerciseaddict] [ In reply to ]
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I will post a race recap soon. It was everything I thought it would be. Out of my comfort zone, brutal course, spectacular scenery, and a very well run race.

Very low key, no fluff, a nice change from what I'm use to racing. I hope it does well in the future.

310 registered, 198 starters, 147 finishers
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The GMAN wrote:
exerciseaddict wrote:
So how did the race go? This is one race recap I'd love to read about from anyone that was there!


Looks like 1/3 of the field were DNS. Seems like a lot of people got caught up in the moment upon registration.

"I can't wait to do that!!!"

Then a couple of months later:
"No way I'm doing that!!!"

55 degree water, 4:30 am swim....."I am instantly in the no way I am doing that camp"....same problem for Norseman, Swissman and the Austria Extreme Tri. I love the bike course options for these races, but the swims make them all a no go right from day 1. More power to all of you into those hard and cold races! I'd rather do events that have a chance to be over 30C and no wetsuit....so definitely prefer the other exteme end which is more in line with my tropical genetics.

Spasmus, looking forward to the report.
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I was one of those DNS'. Imagine every one has different reasons for not getting up there. For me, I would've loved to toe the line, but the costs just became way too much to justify the trip. Looked like it met the "epic" billing, and hope to be able to participate someday.
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [markwhickman] [ In reply to ]
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Hats off to Adam Feigh (Feighathlon) on finishing 5th.

On another note, I figured the Iron Cowboy would do better than 34th.
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Pretty cool seeing Crowie run support for one of his guys.
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Mike Alexander wrote:
Hats off to Adam Feigh (Feighathlon) on finishing 5th.

On another note, I figured the Iron Cowboy would do better than 34th.

Thanks Mike. Had a couple low points in the race that took some rallying. Opened my eyes to both the distance and different demands of racing extreme tris. Plan on doing a race report in the next few days. Don't know if they want me to post it on here or not. Have a bit less footage than usual since my support team was using a camera the film crew gave us. They should have some great promotional footage for the race in the future.

As a note, James looked to be on a road bike with aero bars so I doubt he was going for speed. Though a tt bike would have definitely been the faster choice.

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Mike Alexander wrote:
On another note, I figured the Iron Cowboy would do better than 34th.

maybe his elliptical got stuck on the mountain pass

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robgray wrote:
Mike Alexander wrote:
On another note, I figured the Iron Cowboy would do better than 34th.


maybe his elliptical got stuck on the mountain pass

This guy is getting up the mountains just fine on his elliptical. I would expect nothing less from the Cowboy. He should smoke this guy:


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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [spasmus] [ In reply to ]
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Looking forward to the recap. Congratulations on the finish!! Probably not a PR :)
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [exerciseaddict] [ In reply to ]
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Ha, no PR. I finished in 13:43 good enough for 14th, but I never felt like this was a race. If my family said I was 100th I would not have known. I wanted something different and got it.

Dev, yes brutal swim. Foggy 55 degree water temp except where the mountain run off spilled into the bay. That water was 49 they said. I shut down after about 50 minutes, I was frozen. Basically doggie paddled to the exit and spent 16+ minutes in T1 while my support changed me into my bike kit. I really thought I was the last one out if the water.
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devashish_paul wrote:
robgray wrote:
Mike Alexander wrote:
On another note, I figured the Iron Cowboy would do better than 34th.


maybe his elliptical got stuck on the mountain pass


This guy is getting up the mountains just fine on his elliptical. I would expect nothing less from the Cowboy. He should smoke this guy:


H2ofun did this race???
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [spasmus] [ In reply to ]
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here is my wife' strava with some photos as she crewed one of the athletes (mandatory to have someone with you on second half of marathon)... nearly 5000' in elevation on second half: 1000' elevation gain in the last mile!

https://www.strava.com/activities/1087437110
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Pretty cool seeing Crowie run support for one of his guys.

Was definitely cool seeing this. The guy he crewed is a member of Sansego and is the owner of the Bravo Team, I think he finished 7th. Not bad.
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [FastFreddy] [ In reply to ]
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Here are some great images:


http://www.ericwynn.org/Alaskaman/
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [FF Boots] [ In reply to ]
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Jonathan Recchi

https://rustersports.com/...bove-jonathan-recchi

^^^This guy came in 22nd place^^^

it is worth the read...and maybe another write up here on ST.
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [spasmus] [ In reply to ]
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Ha, no PR. I finished in 13:43 good enough for 14th, but I never felt like this was a race. If my family said I was 100th I would not have known. I wanted something different and got it.

Dev, yes brutal swim. Foggy 55 degree water temp except where the mountain run off spilled into the bay. That water was 49 they said. I shut down after about 50 minutes, I was frozen. Basically doggie paddled to the exit and spent 16+ minutes in T1 while my support changed me into my bike kit. I really thought I was the last one out if the water.

Did you use neoprene gloves, socks and I assume a neoprene hood? Is this USAT sanctioned, and if not, could one use a water rover wetsuit with 10mm rubber to stay warmer?
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Yes to all. If I had a do over I would have ditched the gloves. My hands were freezing from the beginning and it felt like I was swimming with kitchen pot holders. I was going to take them off mid swim but didn't want to litter. The booties were good and the cap worked. I was just in there too long. It was billed a 2.67 mile swim, normal IM swim for me is 1:05-1:10, I was in there for 1:39!!!
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [spasmus] [ In reply to ]
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It was definitely more of a challenge than it looked on paper. I've finished my write up (two actually) on my blog. It's probably way too long to put here though unless it's asked for. Just such an adventure of a race.

Blog is feighathlon.com if anyone cares to read it. They had an awesome film crew there as well that will be releasing some promotional footage in the future.

Adam Feigh
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It was definitely more of a challenge than it looked on paper. I've finished my write up (two actually) on my blog. It's probably way too long to put here though unless it's asked for. Just such an adventure of a race.

Blog is feighathlon.com if anyone cares to read it. They had an awesome film crew there as well that will be releasing some promotional footage in the future.

Great write up man. Congrats on surviving a tough day.
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Great report - you should post it here.
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [Feighathlon] [ In reply to ]
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Awesome write up!! I got a good insight of how the race went. Thank you! and congratulations!!
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [exerciseaddict] [ In reply to ]
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another race report a bit late but why not...

https://coupleofathletes.wordpress.com/...skawoahman-the-race/
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Re: AlaskaMan 140.6 [synthetic] [ In reply to ]
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Great report - thanks for posting. I live nearby and was boat camping off Resurrection Bay night of race - can't imagine doing an IM distance swim in that chilly water. Awesome job!
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Awesome write up and photos!! That's one tough chick!!
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