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I am on a budget, so unfortunately recovery boots such as Normatec are not an option. I found these on Amazon...do these seem like they can do a reasonable job with recovery? Thanks for your thoughts and opinions!

http://www.amazon.com/..._product_top?ie=UTF8

http://www.amazon.com/...ression+leg+recovery
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [mad] [ In reply to ]
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I have the orange Air Relax ones in my Amazon wish list for the same reason as you. I can't afford (nor justify) the price of Normatecs. From my research, it seems that Podium Legs went out of business & either reformed as, or was bought out by Unix & they renamed the product the Air Relax. See the link below for a relatively recent review of several recovery systems.

http://obstacleracingmedia.com/gear/the-best-compression-recovery-boots/

A few people in my tri club have tried the Podium Legs/Air Relax and also the Normatecs. While they all prefer the Normatecs, they also say that for the price, the Air Relax does pretty much the same thing & are just as effective.


It seems that the biggest strike against the Air Relax is that it is the noisiest of the bunch. It's also a bit more bulky than the Normatec, but for $1,000 less, I can live with both. $400 is still a good chunk of change, so this is low on the priority list, but if someone wants to get me one, or if I receive an amazon gift cart to defer the cost, I may pick one up.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [Meathead] [ In reply to ]
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Thank you for this informative response!
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [Meathead] [ In reply to ]
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check out recovery edge
i heard good things about them

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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [Meathead] [ In reply to ]
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I have the 2nd (Air Relax) also in my wishlist but haven't pulled the trigger yet, glad you have some good feedback about the system because it seems like most of the Amazon reviews (while positive) aren't in reference to sports recovery and more related to edema and other medical problems.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [mad] [ In reply to ]
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I have an earlier generation of these. They are perfect! Yes of course the bigger name has more programs. but you need to compress from the feet to the top and repeat. simple. (yes I know more technical stuff can happen/help) but these are great! I use them after big days for about 30-40min and I think they work/help just fine. you'd be very happy with them. mine came in a little zippered suitcase and I take them on the road very easily as well.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [ck21trhc] [ In reply to ]
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ck21trhc wrote:
check out recovery edge
i heard good things about them

I just looked through their site. At $539 for the cheapest option, they are $140 more than the Air Relax & from what I can tell, the Recovery Edge doesn't have different compression programs like the Air Relax has. Still, it's better than the Normatecs.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [Meathead] [ In reply to ]
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excellent and thank you so sharing that I did not realize you can program it!!! Makes them much better. I wonder how noisy they actually are.
Let me know if you get them, curious about more feedback

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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [ck21trhc] [ In reply to ]
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To be clear, the Air Relax isn't custom programmable. It has 3 pre-programmed settings. From their site FAQ page:

3. How many modes does Air Relax Compressible Massager have?
You can choose "A", "B", "C" mode. Press the "MODE" button once to change the mode. "A" mode inflates the chambers from the bottom up, one at a time. " B" mode also inflates the chambers from the bottom up, but maintains the pressure in the lowers chambers as it works its way to the top. "C" mode maintains pressure in all chambers at once, and then releases. Pressure area is changed whenever the button is pressed.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [Meathead] [ In reply to ]
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thanks you beat me to start researching it

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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [Meathead] [ In reply to ]
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There is actually a 4th mode .
There is an Auto button somewhere on the unit. It is a mix of a, b and also will do some things like chamber 1 and 3, or chamber 2 and 4.

I use that mode the most. (I have a set of podium legs)
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [dcohen24] [ In reply to ]
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Do you like them & would you recommend them? Ever tried the Normatec & if so, how did they compare?
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [mad] [ In reply to ]
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I am on a budget, ...do these seem like they can do a reasonable job with recovery?

From the research I've seen, it seems like these things don't do any job w/regards to recovery...but hey, your money.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [Meathead] [ In reply to ]
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I definitely think they help recovery.
Every year I got to training camp with about 6-10 friends in NC. I bring them along, and pretty much every day there is a line of my friends wanting to use them. These are not "slowtwtichers" They're there to have a good time and it seems to help their legs and be able to go ride another 70 the next day.

My brother borrowed them for the last time he did a nyc marathon... same deal, not super fast, but thought it helped.

I like them, but I obviously can't speak to them scientifically.

The normatecs are nice. I think one thing I remember someone from normatec telling me is they essentially calibrate at the beginning, figuring out how big your leg is so it can figure out the amount of pressure needed at different intensity levels. On the podium legs there is 1-4... and its more of a psi setting. so someone who is smaller 4 will be lighter than someone bigger.

The normatec also does these , like micropulses at times. Those also are not present. Each segment is either filling, deflating, on or off. Those are the only states the cuffs are in.

For me, I really liked the normatecs, and I spend somewhat freely, but cant justify the upspend.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [dcohen24] [ In reply to ]
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Great feedback. I figured the Normatecs had to have more features to justify their price. Like you though, I think that's not enough to justify the price tag.

I'm sold on the Air Relax/Poduim Legs. It will still stay in my wish list as a nice to have if I come across some cash or if someone is feeling generous at Christmas or my birthday. :)
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [mad] [ In reply to ]
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So-called 'recovery boots' are for the most part an additional sales channel for a product that has existed for decades: sequential circulator to treat lymphedema. These supposedly medical-grade systems sell for thousands of $s, and require a prescription. By changing the range of available compression the prescription requirement is by-passed, and voila, a product for the masses exists. Most name-brand so-called recovery systems are an off-spring of a medical device parent: for Normatec Recovery, see http://www.normatecusa.com/. For SportPump http://www.sportpump.com/, see http://biocompression.com/. Etc. Even visually, it's easy to see the similarities. The so-called 'recovery' system is merely a re-badged version of the medical one. Of course the manufacturers don't tell you that, and they also don't tell you that via e.g. craigslist you can find the medical version for pennies on the dollar.

For example, the SportPump SP4 pump retails on their site for $1199. Two leg sleeves will set you back another $300+ (depending on size). The medical version (BioCompression) does not list a price, from what I have seen they sell for 2x or more. Funny thing is, in my local craigslist I see a full BioCompression system (pump and two leg sleeves) for $240. They keep coming up, frequently and regularly. The difference? Branding, and the 'medical' version does not have any flashy logo with the term 'sport' in them.

A couple years ago when I became interested in these systems I called SportPump, chatted a while with a rep, and he basically told me that yes, they are selling technically identical and merely re-badged product.

Disclaimer: I am no medical professional or anywhere close, the above is based on personal research from a couple of years ago, and may or may not be considering all applicable details. That said, the BioCompression pump I bought for a couple hundred $$s off craigslist a couple years ago still pumps strong, and has the desired effect. YMMV.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [mad] [ In reply to ]
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I have a Normatec and also a Compex and honestly, I think the Compex Active Recovery is more effective. My legs feel noticeably better after sessions on the Compex vs the Normatec. On to of that the Compex is so much less intrusive. Sitting on the couch or in bed with the boots is quite a bit of a hassle, with the Compex its much easier to go about other things while still getting the benefit.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [mad] [ In reply to ]
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I am also an owner of the previously mentioned Podium Legs. I used them a ton in the beginning but not as much now. I am just lazy. I do enjoy taking them to tri camps and times of high volume.

I have also used Normatecs in the past. It's kinda like comparing a sports car to a sedan. They both have four wheels and get you from A to B. But one is nice and has a few extra features. I personally couldn't justify the price of the normatecs.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [Trispoke] [ In reply to ]
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I have the orange pair. They are awesome. I cannot tell a difference between them and Normatec (i tried them at an expo). Also these have higher mmHg than the Normatec. I don't know what they do physiologically, but they feel awesome after a hard workout. My only complaint is that they turn off after 10 or 15 minutes and you have to restart. It's easy to restart, but it interrupts my nap.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [mad] [ In reply to ]
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I know Unix has a standard and an XL boot, but I have yet to see the XL boots on sale. Anyone have a link or any information?
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [stephanl] [ In reply to ]
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I'll admit that when I first read your reply, it came off as very snarky. Then I actually looked into it a bit & you're dead on. I clicked the links you posted & also did a search for Lymphedema pumps. Sure enough, the medical grade systems can be found on Craigslist (though not in my local area) & eBay. I assume they are systems that were procured via insurance at full price & people are just dumping them off after not being used anymore. The medical ones I have looked at this morning lack selective modes that the slick marketed ones have and simply have on/off & pressure selectors, but if you can get one for next to nothing, it may be worth it.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [mad] [ In reply to ]
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My birthday was yesterday & a generous family member bought me the Air Relax system off my Amazon wish list. The timing could not be better because I am in the middle of training for the Chicago Marathon & my run volume has been really high. It's scheduled to be delivered today, so after I use it a few times, I will report back with my review.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [kdw] [ In reply to ]
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kdw wrote:
I am on a budget, ...do these seem like they can do a reasonable job with recovery?

From the research I've seen, it seems like these things don't do any job w/regards to recovery...but hey, your money.

Could you please link us to that research you have seen.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [RBR] [ In reply to ]
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I have the orange version. They are awesome. Do they help with recovery....don't think so....but they feel awesome after a long work out. They do the same thing as Normatec, but not as many options. Only complaint is that they shut off after 15 minutes, so right when I am falling asleep I have to start the program over. Normatec's are little beefier and the material is thicker....it is a better product, just don't think the cost difference is justifiable. Word of caution....they sell a 220 volt and 110 volt option. Make sure you pay attention to what you are getting.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [RBR] [ In reply to ]
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"Could you please link us to that research you have seen. "


I'm not sure exactly what research I'd seen back when I made the post, but a quick google:


http://journals.lww.com/nsca-jscr/Abstract/2016/02000/Vascular_Occlusion_and_Sequential_Compression_for.30.aspx


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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [Meathead] [ In reply to ]
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Any update/review?
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [instigator] [ In reply to ]
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instigator wrote:
Any update/review?

Sorry I never reported back. I'm actually sitting on the sofa in my basement right now with the Air Relax boots on. I use these things every day and they have been amazing. I highly recommend them. I've been training for the Chicago Marathon all summer & putting in high miles every week. Since I have had these, I will say that my legs feel refreshed & my recovery times are lower. I'm able to do runs and not feel fatigued after a long run or hard interval workout.

I would buy these again and I have recommended them to my tri club. Several people have bought them & their feelings are the same as mine. If you have any specific questions, let me know.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [instigator] [ In reply to ]
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instigator wrote:
Any update/review?


I was waiting to do a full review with the new Grey version, that I now have, in comparison to Normatec Pulse which I also have.

In short, I live in boots these days and I love them both. Here is a quick comparison. There is a discount code that knocks another 7% off AirRelax when purchased thru their website instead of Amazon. The Amazon seller is the same seller (Orange Tree Trade) as the Air Relax site.


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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
instigator wrote:
Any update/review?

I was waiting to do a full review with the new Grey version, that I now have, in comparison to Normatec Pulse which I also have.
In short, I live in boots these days and I love them both. Here is a quick comparison. There is a discount code that knocks another 7% off AirRelax when purchased thru their website instead of Amazon. The Amazon seller is the same seller (Orange Tree Trade) as the Air Relax site.

A few months ago, I watched a short "day in the life" of top OW swimmer Alex Meyer, who swims 5K, 10K, 15K, and even 25K OW events. In fact, he won the 25K world championship in 2010. The interesting thing is that he uses the Normatec boots for recovery at the end of his day, which I was surprised at since distance swimming, espec at 5K and up, is primarily an upper body-dominated sport. Idk, maybe Normatec gave them to him for free on the condition that he promote them as much as possible but in any case, it is kind of interesting that a guy like him uses these boots.


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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [ericmulk] [ In reply to ]
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I am not sure of his situation. I know that Normatec does a meaningful sponsorship with only a few pro triathletes.

Fwiw, I have a friend that IS sponsored by Normatec and I went to her to ask her about buying a set of boots from her. This was after I had already fallen in love with boots. I was surprised to hear that she had a single pair that were busted and she never used them. She said she could get another pair no problem but they were too much of a hassle to get in to and wasn't that big of a fan of them. I was very surprised as for me they have been a godsend.

They are great for the regular person too. You can see that Air Relax isn't targeted at athletes. I am on flight home today and will use them on the layover in Dallas. Regardless of who you are, do a lot of sitting and you legs will swell. These really help with removal of the fluid just as compression socks would do. Perfect for travel.


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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [Mike Alexander] [ In reply to ]
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Is orange an older version? All I can find is black legs...
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Just ordered my set with Thomas' Coupon Code. Demo'd the NormaTecs at MOO this year and they really felt great but at that price point it was out of the question for me right now. Being a 49 YO MOP'er I do notice that I do recover a bit slower every year although I am still getting faster and training better every year. Doing LOU also this year I wish I had known that the price difference between theAir Relax and the NormaTecs was this dramatic. My legs are still feeling sluggish and would have loved to see how I felt if I had been using the recovery boots all along. I will def have them when LOU is over and I will report back how I like them then and how they helped or didn't help in my recovery.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [Mike Alexander] [ In reply to ]
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Mike Alexander wrote:
I have the orange version. They are awesome. Do they help with recovery....don't think so....but they feel awesome after a long work out. They do the same thing as Normatec, but not as many options. Only complaint is that they shut off after 15 minutes, so right when I am falling asleep I have to start the program over. Normatec's are little beefier and the material is thicker....it is a better product, just don't think the cost difference is justifiable. Word of caution....they sell a 220 volt and 110 volt option. Make sure you pay attention to what you are getting.

This is pretty much my experience too. I've had the orange Podium Legs for 4 years now. They are in my tv room and I just use them when I'm lazy and on the couch. I don't think they are a magic pill at all and I would pick a TP roller over them any day if recovery was the main goal. Mine have worked flawless though after about 1,000 15 minute cycles. I bought mine for about $400 back then and my unit has about 4-5 settings to choose from.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [beercity] [ In reply to ]
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beercity wrote:
Is orange an older version? All I can find is black legs...

The new version is actually a very dark bluish gray but I am colorblind so who knows, but yes Orange is older. The newer one has minor changes, like the Normatec, instead of the tubes sticking out they are threaded thru an additional piece of fabric on the top and are not visible in the new version. That is really only the noticeable difference to me. They are supposed to be a little wider in the cuff too and some minor other changes that you won't really notice.


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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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I also bought a pair of the Air Relax boots about 6 weeks ago and love them. I use them daily (in them now) because they feel so good.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [JackStraw13] [ In reply to ]
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I also bought a pair of the Air Relax boots about 6 weeks ago and love them. I use them daily (in them now) because they feel so good.

Good to hear. Will be interesting to hear reliability feedback over time. I have noticed that my Normatec seem to be expanding a bit because of use and pressure. I had Normatec first and was only using those so they have way more hours than my Air Relax. I try to split time between the two now but will be interesting to see if the Air Relax expand as well.

Fwiw, that tab on the air relax at the top that stretches across I thought was worthless, but after having my Normatecs bust open at the zipper a few times I now understand its purpose.


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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Has anyone had any success getting these covered by insurance? Might take a shot with my PT.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [mad] [ In reply to ]
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I have a pair in the original box for sale for $300.00 I am just under 6' tall and wanted something longer like the Normatecs They work great, let me know if you are interested.

marq
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [raceboy] [ In reply to ]
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How short we're they on you? Inseam?
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [commendatore] [ In reply to ]
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I have a game ready.... but damn the boot wraps are $$$ and I would still need to add hip to get the full effect.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [commendatore] [ In reply to ]
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my inseam is a 32 and they came up about 3-4" from my groin.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [commendatore] [ In reply to ]
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the other thing I forgot to mention is that you can pull them up higher to reach your ischium (hamstring insertion point) if need be. the air relax are more powerful than the normatec boots but I wanted the full length for my hamstring injury.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [beercity] [ In reply to ]
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beercity wrote:
Has anyone had any success getting these covered by insurance? Might take a shot with my PT.

Sorry for late reply, been travelin', anyway I seem to remember this coming up in maybe another thread and someone was able to get some sort of reimbursement or thru HSA. The original Normatec boots started go as a medical device with needed prescription so I would assume insurance would cover it under the right diagnosis from a physician but I didn't go that route so can't speak directly to it.


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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [commendatore] [ In reply to ]
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commendatore wrote:
How short we're they on you? Inseam?

They are definitely a couple of inches shorter than the Normatecs. For me, I have to remember to lift the old boys out of place in the Normatecs otherwise the boys can get pinched off and that does not feel good. The Air Relax are long enough to cover pretty much everything that you need ie all the way up the quads and hamstrings.


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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Thomas,

I picked up the Air Recovery per your recommendation (and code, thanks!). They should be arriving any day now.

I was curious what you do for timing. I thought I read on the website that they recommended not surpassing 3x15min /day. This seems pretty short.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
commendatore wrote:
How short we're they on you? Inseam?


They are definitely a couple of inches shorter than the Normatecs. For me, I have to remember to lift the old boys out of place in the Normatecs otherwise the boys can get pinched off and that does not feel good. The Air Relax are long enough to cover pretty much everything that you need ie all the way up the quads and hamstrings.

The air relax are a little short on me. I need hike them up or else the lower section of the upper leg pushes into the knee. I'm not a tall guy (6' 32" inseam), so I can't imagine how these would fit on the 6'+ crowd.

In any case, just make sure the middle seam sits squarely on your kneecap. As long as I do that, its great.

Also, I asked them if they'd be covered by HSA. Here was the question/response:

Does your air boot system qualify as a medical device that can use HSA money? Does that require a prescription?

Thank you very much for your question.

Air Relax is the medical device class II, however it doesn't qualify for HSA.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [f_herman] [ In reply to ]
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f_herman wrote:
Thomas,

I picked up the Air Recovery per your recommendation (and code, thanks!). They should be arriving any day now.

I was curious what you do for timing. I thought I read on the website that they recommended not surpassing 3x15min /day. This seems pretty short.


The Air Relax is a qualified medical device so there is probably something to the recommendation for legal reasons. I'm not going to advocate any specific prescription, nor am I qualified to do so. The Air Relax does go up to 240 mmhg versus 100 for normatec. Obviously right there there is a huge difference. If you ran Air Relax at 40 (~level 1) versus 240 that is a huge difference right there IMO.

As for me, I have my Normatec set on 45 min session, and when I do Air Relax I just do the 3x15min. But I do it on average 2x times a day. So 1hr 30 in general. I do often go longer than 45 mins and shorter as well.

I had been doing more of start on 4-5 on Norma and increase every 15 minutes or so to 7, but it seems like maybe my Normatecs have stretched or something else has happened and the pressure doesn't feel the same as originally. Part of that is my legs getting use to it, but part of it seems like the Normatec itself.

My Air Relax, the new dark-blue-gray unit is relatively new. I usually will do a pre-workout on 1 maybe. Usually use 2 as recovery. I don't really use 3 or 4 at all.

I realize you only asked about Air Relax, but If figured I would include the Normatec usage as well for a more complete comparison.


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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
f_herman wrote:
Thomas,

I picked up the Air Recovery per your recommendation (and code, thanks!). They should be arriving any day now.

I was curious what you do for timing. I thought I read on the website that they recommended not surpassing 3x15min /day. This seems pretty short.


The Air Relax is a qualified medical device so there is probably something to the recommendation for legal reasons. I'm not going to advocate any specific prescription, nor am I qualified to do so. The Air Relax does go up to 240 mmhg versus 100 for normatec. Obviously right there there is a huge difference. If you ran Air Relax at 40 (~level 1) versus 240 that is a huge difference right there IMO.

As for me, I have my Normatec set on 45 min session, and when I do Air Relax I just do the 3x15min. But I do it on average 2x times a day. So 1hr 30 in general. I do often go longer than 45 mins and shorter as well.

I had been doing more of start on 4-5 on Norma and increase every 15 minutes or so to 7, but it seems like maybe my Normatecs have stretched or something else has happened and the pressure doesn't feel the same as originally. Part of that is my legs getting use to it, but part of it seems like the Normatec itself.

My Air Relax, the new dark-blue-gray unit is relatively new. I usually will do a pre-workout on 1 maybe. Usually use 2 as recovery. I don't really use 3 or 4 at all.

I realize you only asked about Air Relax, but If figured I would include the Normatec usage as well for a more complete comparison.

Thanks so much for the information! I'll use this as a starting point for some experimentation.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
My Air Relax, the new dark-blue-gray unit is relatively new.

Thomas, can you measure the length (height?) of yours? At 6' the orange boots are as short as I'd want to go. Just curious.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [JASpencer] [ In reply to ]
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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
My Air Relax, the new dark-blue-gray unit is relatively new.

Thomas, can you measure the length (height?) of yours? At 6' the orange boots are as short as I'd want to go. Just curious.

Where do you want measurements from. The tip of the toes to the top? The back of the foot to the top? I will do this when I get home and find the tape measure (just moved).


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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
My Air Relax, the new dark-blue-gray unit is relatively new.


Thomas, can you measure the length (height?) of yours? At 6' the orange boots are as short as I'd want to go. Just curious.

So the boots slope front to back, a little longer in front than back. Measuring from the back of the heel to the top is 30 inches, measuring from the front of the bottom of the foot to the front of the top measures 38 inches.


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"Could you please link us to that research you have seen. "


I'm not sure exactly what research I'd seen back when I made the post, but a quick google:


http://journals.lww.com/nsca-jscr/Abstract/2016/02000/Vascular_Occlusion_and_Sequential_Compression_for.30.aspx


That isn't a good study with respect to endurance exercise recovery.

If you burn out your muscles doing the exercises listed in that study I don't think even drugs would have an appreciable difference in 1 hour, 24 hours or even 48 hours for that matter.
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Just received the Air Relax system yesterday, they are pretty sweet and for the price the can't be beat. Boots seem pretty durable, time will tell how well they hold up.
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Thomas,
Have you clicked on your air-relax link lately? Gives me an error instead of going to their site. Wondering if it works OK for you?
Kevin

http://www.air-relax.com/shop-air-relax


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Thomas,
Have you clicked on your air-relax link lately? Gives me an error instead of going to their site. Wondering if it works OK for you?
Kevin

http://www.air-relax.com/shop-air-relax

Lol, great. Was working fine yesterday. Hope it's just a tech prob and they didn't stop selling.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for the info and the discount. Had the boots for 3 weeks, no serious complaints. At first it was annoying to keep turning them on after they auto shutdown, but I got used to it. Still think they could do something else (stop and alert? just pause?) instead of switching off the power, but I can deal with that given the savings. They advertise that the boots shut down after 15 mins - mine go more like 13-14, but again, not a huge deal.
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Thanks for the info and the discount. Had the boots for 3 weeks, no serious complaints. At first it was annoying to keep turning them on after they auto shutdown, but I got used to it. Still think they could do something else (stop and alert? just pause?) instead of switching off the power, but I can deal with that given the savings. They advertise that the boots shut down after 15 mins - mine go more like 13-14, but again, not a huge deal.

Yeah, I am not sure if the 15 mins might be a requirement or something for that particular medical device stamp


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Thomas,
Have you clicked on your air-relax link lately? Gives me an error instead of going to their site. Wondering if it works OK for you?
Kevin

http://www.air-relax.com/shop-air-relax

Not working for me either. Not sure what is going on. I know they were at Interbike and are looking to expand and might be working on a new website. They are just the NA distributor and do a lot else besides just Air Relax. It is the same seller that is on Amazon. I can follow up with them and see what it is up though. Hopefully just a temporary glitch.


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Yes, it worked early in the day but not last evening. I did notice that on Amazon they raised their price from $399 to $417 by the evening too. Interesting to say the least. Thanks.


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Does anyone have any comparison with just elevating your legs up on a wall? I've been told by multiple people that elevating your legs and letting the blood flow back down has nearly the same effects. I understand that with boots you can sit on the couch or wherever and relax instead of your back on the floor. But I was wondering if anyone has done one then switched to the other and noticed a difference.
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I'd say the biggest difference is the massage like effect it gives. I can't say that from a physiological perspective that it does more or is better than just raising your legs, but my legs do feel better than if I just raised them or did nothing. Best way to describe the sensation of these things, is it feels like a blood pressure cuff.
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Does anyone have any comparison with just elevating your legs up on a wall? I've been told by multiple people that elevating your legs and letting the blood flow back down has nearly the same effects. I understand that with boots you can sit on the couch or wherever and relax instead of your back on the floor. But I was wondering if anyone has done one then switched to the other and noticed a difference.

I am all for elevating the legs up a wall (I am a huge yogi) or using compression socks. Elevating the legs might have some effect as well but it is probably much less effective than the boots. The boots are actively using higher pressures to force the blood and fluids around, that just isn't going to happen as effectively without actively squeezing. I should try using the boots sometime and standing up side down though just to see what happens.


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Also, any comparison of this vs E-Stim? I've heard a lot of people feel that is more effective than the boots, but I was wondering if there have been any studies?

tcaldwell369 wrote:
Does anyone have any comparison with just elevating your legs up on a wall? I've been told by multiple people that elevating your legs and letting the blood flow back down has nearly the same effects. I understand that with boots you can sit on the couch or wherever and relax instead of your back on the floor. But I was wondering if anyone has done one then switched to the other and noticed a difference.
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Thomas,
Have you clicked on your air-relax link lately? Gives me an error instead of going to their site. Wondering if it works OK for you?
Kevin

http://www.air-relax.com/shop-air-relax

Kevin,

So I sent them an email this morning and they did let me know that their IT department was working on something and the regular site will be down for a few days. They gave me another address to use, no idea if they are moving everything of to this permanently or what as I didn't ask.


http://www.airrelaxrecovery.com/


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In mine right now. Had them about 3 months. Average probably an hour a day and still loving them.
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Thanks Thomas.


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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [JackStraw13] [ In reply to ]
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Had mine for about two weeks now, like them but not sure how big of a difference they make. Definitely wouldn't splurge on NormaTecs but these may be worth it. Sitting in them right now for a few minutes with Great Floridian 140.6 in about 2 hours. If it goes poorly ill blame the boots ;)
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Had mine for about two weeks now, like them but not sure how big of a difference they make. Definitely wouldn't splurge on NormaTecs but these may be worth it. Sitting in them right now for a few minutes with Great Floridian 140.6 in about 2 hours. If it goes poorly ill blame the boots ;)

You were up quite early using the boots before the race. I hope the race is going well, I am looking outside my window in Clermont and I see a breeze and not a cloud in the sky - should be a challenging day.


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It was a beautiful day for lounging by the lake but definitely tough conditions for a full. Water temp was perfect but surface was super super choppy in all three directions and the sun made sighting really tough the first stretch all three loops. Bike course was no joke, hills galore!! Run course was 3 loops along lake Minneola which got to be utterly boring, not to mention the HEAT! Still a bit new to the distance with this being my second 140.6 but overall it went pretty well (despite a crash on the bike thanks to a police officer sitting in his car talking on the phone as opposed to directing traffic). Finished fourth overall and never had any GI issues which is great. Thanks for the Air Relax promo code, i'll give them (and you) some of the credit for the successful race ;)
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It was a beautiful day for lounging by the lake but definitely tough conditions for a full. Water temp was perfect but surface was super super choppy in all three directions and the sun made sighting really tough the first stretch all three loops. Bike course was no joke, hills galore!! Run course was 3 loops along lake Minneola which got to be utterly boring, not to mention the HEAT! Still a bit new to the distance with this being my second 140.6 but overall it went pretty well (despite a crash on the bike thanks to a police officer sitting in his car talking on the phone as opposed to directing traffic). Finished fourth overall and never had any GI issues which is great. Thanks for the Air Relax promo code, i'll give them (and you) some of the credit for the successful race ;)

Congrats on the finish!!! Saturday, was actually the first cool day since I have been back in Florida. Could have been way worse in regards to heat + humidity, but it did seem to be a bit windy so that probably really helped slow things back down.


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Has anyone used their Air Relax boots by running them on an inverter in a car?
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Has anyone used their Air Relax boots by running them on an inverter in a car?

I have not. I need to buy a kill-a-watt power meter and see how much power they draw. I can't imagine it is that much but who knows. The Pulse battery life is a little disappointing and sometimes only last 45 mins so maybe it is more draw than I think.


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Decided to check out the website again through your link Thomas, but the deal they were offering for Black Friday was slightly better. $50 off, so it was $350 shipped.
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Decided to check out the website again through your link Thomas, but the deal they were offering for Black Friday was slightly better. $50 off, so it was $350 shipped.

Yep it is a few dollars cheaper. Depending on the price, the code in the link takes it down to about $352. Enjoy the boots :)


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Has anyone used their Air Relax boots by running them on an inverter in a car?

I have not. I need to buy a kill-a-watt power meter and see how much power they draw. I can't imagine it is that much but who knows. The Pulse battery life is a little disappointing and sometimes only last 45 mins so maybe it is more draw than I think.

They work fine with an inverter in a car. They only draw 30 watts. Using mine now coming back from marathon in Baton Rouge.
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I have to assume someone else was driving? Did u lay down in the backseat or just recline the front? Wonder whose legs were more swollen at the end of the drive.?


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I have to assume someone else was driving? Did u lay down in the backseat or just recline the front? Wonder whose legs were more swollen at the end of the drive.?

Reclined in the front. Dad was driving.
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that's cool they can work in the car. I just got mine yesterday and tried them out. They worked great and felt just like the Normatec boots. I only tried the Normatec boots once at IM expo and they were nice but so expensive. It sounds like Normatec may have more program modes but I'm fine with the Air Relax. I don't remember what the Normatec system noise was like. It was loud in the expo so hard to say. The Air Relax wasn't loud enough to force me to turn up the tv.
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They are definitely a couple of inches shorter than the Normatecs. For me, I have to remember to lift the old boys out of place in the Normatecs otherwise the boys can get pinched off and that does not feel good. The Air Relax are long enough to cover pretty much everything that you need ie all the way up the quads and hamstrings.

Just had my first go with the air relax, if I leave my foot in what looks like a foot/ankle section they're a good few inches from the top of my legs, with the 3rd chamber around the knee.

I can pop my foot out the bottom though and then get them all the way up to the top of my legs, then the top chamber gets some nice compression on the top of the quads.

Anyone else tried sticking their foot completely out the bottom? (Nb. Boots are the dark blue ones)
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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
They are definitely a couple of inches shorter than the Normatecs. For me, I have to remember to lift the old boys out of place in the Normatecs otherwise the boys can get pinched off and that does not feel good. The Air Relax are long enough to cover pretty much everything that you need ie all the way up the quads and hamstrings.


Just had my first go with the air relax, if I leave my foot in what looks like a foot/ankle section they're a good few inches from the top of my legs, with the 3rd chamber around the knee.

I can pop my foot out the bottom though and then get them all the way up to the top of my legs, then the top chamber gets some nice compression on the top of the quads.

Anyone else tried sticking their foot completely out the bottom? (Nb. Boots are the dark blue ones)


Yes they are a good couple of inches depending on your height. They are going to be coming out with longer boots at some point for those people who want them. I will say, that, when I do sit in my Normatec, I have to remember to lift the boys out of the way, or spread the legs pretty fair apart. I don't like to talk about my boys too often, but if I don't keep the legs apart, or left them up, they can get pinched quite easily.

I just had a nearly 3 hour call with Normatec the other day and learned a lot about the company in the process. The pair I got in May is going back for an evaluation.

Regardless, probably the best time of the year to pick up them. I know the price of Air Relax will be going up by about $25 sometime early next year. In addition, Normatec has had some aggressive pricing too offering $200 off. I can imagine their promotion might come to an end as well. When I looked into boots last year, heavy in training in late spring, the best deal I could muster was the typical $100 off.


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SteveM wrote:
Thomas Gerlach wrote:
They are definitely a couple of inches shorter than the Normatecs. For me, I have to remember to lift the old boys out of place in the Normatecs otherwise the boys can get pinched off and that does not feel good. The Air Relax are long enough to cover pretty much everything that you need ie all the way up the quads and hamstrings.


Just had my first go with the air relax, if I leave my foot in what looks like a foot/ankle section they're a good few inches from the top of my legs, with the 3rd chamber around the knee.

I can pop my foot out the bottom though and then get them all the way up to the top of my legs, then the top chamber gets some nice compression on the top of the quads.

Anyone else tried sticking their foot completely out the bottom? (Nb. Boots are the dark blue ones)


Yes they are a good couple of inches depending on your height. They are going to be coming out with longer boots at some point for those people who want them. I will say, that, when I do sit in my Normatec, I have to remember to lift the boys out of the way, or spread the legs pretty fair apart. I don't like to talk about my boys too often, but if I don't keep the legs apart, or left them up, they can get pinched quite easily.

I just had a nearly 3 hour call with Normatec the other day and learned a lot about the company in the process. The pair I got in May is going back for an evaluation.

Regardless, probably the best time of the year to pick up them. I know the price of Air Relax will be going up by about $25 sometime early next year. In addition, Normatec has had some aggressive pricing too offering $200 off. I can imagine their promotion might come to an end as well. When I looked into boots last year, heavy in training in late spring, the best deal I could muster was the typical $100 off.

Got a pair of Air Relax for Christmas (thanks Santa) and love them... used the discount code and have to say that these with compression tights are really helping !!

Best regards.
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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
My Air Relax, the new dark-blue-gray unit is relatively new.


Thomas, can you measure the length (height?) of yours? At 6' the orange boots are as short as I'd want to go. Just curious.

Just an FYI, Air Relax just got in their tall version yesterday. They are stated as for people 6' 1" and taller. In addition, the price is going up sometime this weekend as well by about $20 and then will go up another 2% from there on Feb 1st.


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I know Unix has a standard and an XL boot, but I have yet to see the XL boots on sale. Anyone have a link or any information?

Just an FYI, Air Relax just got in their tall version yesterday. They are stated as for people 6' 1" and taller. In addition, the price is going up sometime this weekend as well by about $20 and then will go up another 2% from there on Feb 1st.


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Magic, might be able to stop pulling the foot section up onto my lower calf!

Any idea when they'll be shipping (& if a recent purchase/code discount is on the cards)
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Magic, might be able to stop pulling the foot section up onto my lower calf!

Any idea when they'll be shipping (& if a recent purchase/code discount is on the cards)

I sent them a message last night and they got back to me around 11:20 eastern. They said they would be immediate but they only had about 15 pairs in stock at the moment. Part of their supply went to the their overseas distributors, but they want to get feedback from customers as well. It is possible they will make some more tweaks to the size based on a feedback.


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Ordered a tall pair this morning... I've been contemplating ordering for a while, getting them in the tall size and before the price hike sold me. $414 shipped after Gerlach's discount code. Thanks Thomas
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Ordered a tall pair this morning... I've been contemplating ordering for a while, getting them in the tall size and before the price hike sold me. $414 shipped after Gerlach's discount code. Thanks Thomas

Very nice. You will have to let me know how the longer legs workout. I am also getting a pair of the longer legs. I am not the 6 1+ but my inseam is very long for someone who is 5 feet 9 at 33.63. I also got a new Normatec Pulse Pro system as well so I can start a new long-term comparison for durability.


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I'll be seeing how their customer service is now - the seam on my right boot split by the foot cuff. They have a process, but the instructions say you have to ship it back in the original box. I don't have the original box, so we will see what they say.
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What's the best way to go about ordering just the longer boots.
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What's the best way to go about ordering just the longer boots.

I will check. I know they only got in a very small run of the larger boots.


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What's the best way to go about ordering just the longer boots.


I will check. I know they only got in a very small run of the larger boots.

Thanks. I'm highly interested in two pairs of the larger boots.
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cabdoctor wrote:
What's the best way to go about ordering just the longer boots.


I will check. I know they only got in a very small run of the larger boots.


Thanks. I'm highly interested in two pairs of the larger boots.

Ok and I assume you already have one of the newer dark Air Relax units?


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cabdoctor wrote:
What's the best way to go about ordering just the longer boots.


I will check. I know they only got in a very small run of the larger boots.


Thanks. I'm highly interested in two pairs of the larger boots.

CabDoctor sorry for the late reply. I did check with Air Relax and they are not listed on the site as they have very few for purchase. If you are interested in the longer boots all you have to do is send an email to: sales@air-relax.com and they will get you all setup. Code to save 5% changes every month. For Feb it is: BESTOM02


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Thank you very much I appreciate it
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Thank you very much I appreciate it

If you do end up getting a pair I would appreciate some feedback. I just got a pair myself for testing, but they are likely going to be too long for me to test. They are a couple of inches longer than my Normatec regular size. I thought maybe giving my really long inseam that I might be able to give them a shot but it is doubtful at 5 feet 9 inches.


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I've been using the long pair for a week and a half now... I'm 6'2" and yes they most certainly are long! If I were any shorter they would be too long, as it is they come all the way up to the boys and my toes are a good 2-3 inches away from the edge of the boot.
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Could I ask where does the third chamber sit on the long ones? Above or on the knee?

With the shorty's I stick my foot all the way through getting two chambers on the calf & two on the quad (knee between 2 & 3)
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I've been using the long pair for a week and a half now... I'm 6'2" and yes they most certainly are long! If I were any shorter they would be too long, as it is they come all the way up to the boys and my toes are a good 2-3 inches away from the edge of the boot.

What kind of leg/torso ratio do you have, or inseam for that matter. I realize height guidelines are to make it simpler for the user but total height only shows part of the story.


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So-called 'recovery boots' are for the most part an additional sales channel for a product that has existed for decades: sequential circulator to treat lymphedema. These supposedly medical-grade systems sell for thousands of $s, and require a prescription. By changing the range of available compression the prescription requirement is by-passed, and voila, a product for the masses exists. Most name-brand so-called recovery systems are an off-spring of a medical device parent: for Normatec Recovery, see http://www.normatecusa.com/. For SportPump http://www.sportpump.com/, see http://biocompression.com/. Etc. Even visually, it's easy to see the similarities. The so-called 'recovery' system is merely a re-badged version of the medical one. Of course the manufacturers don't tell you that, and they also don't tell you that via e.g. craigslist you can find the medical version for pennies on the dollar.

For example, the SportPump SP4 pump retails on their site for $1199. Two leg sleeves will set you back another $300+ (depending on size). The medical version (BioCompression) does not list a price, from what I have seen they sell for 2x or more. Funny thing is, in my local craigslist I see a full BioCompression system (pump and two leg sleeves) for $240. They keep coming up, frequently and regularly. The difference? Branding, and the 'medical' version does not have any flashy logo with the term 'sport' in them.

A couple years ago when I became interested in these systems I called SportPump, chatted a while with a rep, and he basically told me that yes, they are selling technically identical and merely re-badged product.

Disclaimer: I am no medical professional or anywhere close, the above is based on personal research from a couple of years ago, and may or may not be considering all applicable details. That said, the BioCompression pump I bought for a couple hundred $$s off craigslist a couple years ago still pumps strong, and has the desired effect. YMMV.

Most of those devices are saying:

Venous insufficiency, that means compression socks or stockings work exactly the same, the difference is probably in pressure, having said that, boots will apply higher pressure Normatec 50-250mmHg and release in series of intervals vs stockings 50-60mmHg constant pressure.

What is better ? Who knows? someone would have to do some research, for sure one look more "pro" in the pump up shoes, but while wearing the stockings you can do a lot of other things while you recover, and you are always running the risk of being taken as cross dresser but hey...it might be fun :)

Constant pressure of the stocking my be better than higher but pulsation based pressure of the pump shoes, I'm sure both sides will argue, and both sides are right wrong.

Simplest way to recover, just lift your legs up on the wall. Traveling with huge shoes and the box is just PITA, I have seen somewhere pic of the guy that puts those on on the plane....Can you imagine distraction he creates, he is THE Athlete for entire flight BSing about his shoes and how fast he is. Instead of wearing special flight compression stockings, but then nobody would see it and ask questions....He would not be "The Flight Athlete", but simple guy in stockings :)
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Steve-
Chamber one is the foot and Achilles
Chamber two gets the rest of the calf, up to the very bottom of the knee cap
Chamber three does cover the knee, but also comes up the quad ~ 5"
And Chamber four gets up the rest of the quad.
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Thomas,
I have a 35" inseam.
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Most of those devices are saying:

Venous insufficiency, that means compression socks or stockings work exactly the same, the difference is probably in pressure, having said that, boots will apply higher pressure Normatec 50-250mmHg and release in series of intervals vs stockings 50-60mmHg constant pressure.

What is better ? Who knows? someone would have to do some research, for sure one look more "pro" in the pump up shoes, but while wearing the stockings you can do a lot of other things while you recover, and you are always running the risk of being taken as cross dresser but hey...it might be fun :)

Constant pressure of the stocking my be better than higher but pulsation based pressure of the pump shoes, I'm sure both sides will argue, and both sides are right wrong.

Simplest way to recover, just lift your legs up on the wall. Traveling with huge shoes and the box is just PITA, I have seen somewhere pic of the guy that puts those on on the plane....Can you imagine distraction he creates, he is THE Athlete for entire flight BSing about his shoes and how fast he is. Instead of wearing special flight compression stockings, but then nobody would see it and ask questions....He would not be "The Flight Athlete", but simple guy in stockings :)

I took the Norma boots on every trip I took last year except for the one trip where my homestay said he would bring his set of podium legs. Amazing the stuff I am willing NOT to pack just to pack the boots. For the record, I had been wearing compression socks for a good 12+ years on flights. There is really no comparison in terms of effectiveness between the two, but I will admit, with the boots you get a lot of questions in the airport from on-lookers and occasionally security comes over and checks on you, both of these really eat into productivity.

With that being said, a nice solid walk after a long-flight is a very effective way to help freshen the legs.


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 Sounds as though size large maybe too big.
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Sounds as though size large maybe too big.

Frankly, I am not really sure. They are about 2 inches longer than my normal size Normatechs and are meant for people would opt for the large size of Normatecs. I have no idea how much larger the large Normatec are as I don't have a pair for comparison. The regular Normatec IMO are already on the verge of being too long for me even though I fall right in the middle of the size based on height, although using my inseam 33.63 would push even further to the other end of the range.

I think it is pretty fair to say that unless you are at least 6'1" or taller I would just go with the normal version.


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Well, the warranty experience so far has not been great. I'm back from a 10 day vacation and opened up the package from them. Turns out they fixed the T connector and not the seam that was coming apart on my right boot.. :-(
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Shoot me a message and I'll look into it. I did the same thing for a friend of mine who had a pair of Normatec's as well. Did the split occur right out of the box or after use? What was wrong with the T-adapter? Did you purchase on Amazon or direct from Air Relax? My experience with Amazon sellers lately is they are getting crazy good at customer service, at least the ones that want to be around and not the fly by night shops.


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I got it direct from Air-Relax. There was no issue with the T connector and I had sent them a picture of the seam on the right boot coming apart after ~1 month of daily use.
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Sounds as though size large maybe too big.

So I did get a chance to sit in the big boys. Again I am only 5 feet 9 but have a 33.63 inseam. They are a little long for but are totally good. Only slight issue is the same with the Normatec in that I have to lift the boys out of the way so they don't get pinched. They will work out for you at 35 inches


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Wife must really love me as she bought me a pair for my bday. Been fine so far for a few weeks.

Taking them in my carry on has been interesting. I finally learned to take them out at security.

What are you guys using as far as a case?
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Wife must really love me as she bought me a pair for my bday. Been fine so far for a few weeks.

Taking them in my carry on has been interesting. I finally learned to take them out at security.

What are you guys using as far as a case?

They are a little tough to get in the carry-on but you certainly could do it although a dedicated slim case would be nice. I traveled with the boots on every trip last year, but I ended up packing the Normatec for air travel as the Pulse head unit is a little smaller. I usually wrapped it in a t-shirt or two but that doesn't feel too secure. As I think about it, I have a small padded cooler that might offer some decent protection.


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What about a case just for regular storage and for transporting to races?
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What about a case just for regular storage and for transporting to races?

Are you asking me for recommendation on a case or why there isn't case for this device in the first place? Normatec does have a case for theirs but it is about the size of carry-on, it is quite bulky. I always just packed in the carry-on . The Air Relax was never really designed for the casual use and travel of athletes, it was originally designed much like the actual medical Normatec's, for medical reasons with a population that probably doesn't travel much.


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Looking for a recommendation. Preferably something not the size of a carry on.
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Looking for a recommendation. Preferably something not the size of a carry on.


Sorry for the late reply. In the end, I guess my recommendation would just be the Normatec case for an Air Relax. Here are some pictures I just took







There is top zippered compartment to add more stuff, and I am sure you can squeeze the boots down some more and pack more stuff but regardless, boots still take up a decent amount of room. There just isn't anyway of getting around that, and giving that they are somewhat delicate electronics you have to take care of them.I still like the idea of wrapping the head unit up in clothes, like jeans and t-shirts and skipping the case.


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Well that seemed like a nice protective transportation method until I saw the price. $160 - shit!
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Well that seemed like a nice protective transportation method until I saw the price. $160 - shit!

I sent a massage to Air Relax seeing if they had an ideas of anything in the works. I have not heard back yet.


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I sent a massage to Air Relax seeing if they had an ideas of anything in the works. I have not heard back yet.
Freudian slip or subliminal suggestion?

Brian

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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
I sent a massage to Air Relax seeing if they had an ideas of anything in the works. I have not heard back yet.

Freudian slip or subliminal suggestion?

Probably Freudian slip but I make so many grammar mistakes anyway on here. I'll admit I was in a bit of hurry this morning due to losing an hour.


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I messaged them months ago about a 230v version. Told me one was imminent. No dice!
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I messaged them months ago about a 230v version. Told me one was imminent. No dice!

Where are you located??? I don't do much international travel so I don't have a lot familiarity on the subject. Is 230 different than 220?


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UK. Sorry we natively run 230 but 220 does OK. Do they have a 220 version now? I couldn't find it recently.
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Great thanks for pointing these out to me will buy a pair now!
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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After reading this thread - i bought these using TG's code -- and received them last week. Since then, they have become a constant fixture of the living room floor, me, the wife, the kid are now at war on who gets to use these. So much goodness.
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they have become a constant fixture of the living room floor, me, the wife, the kid are now at war on who gets to use these. So much goodness.

Thanks for the feedback - it is great to hear. Maybe 2 more pairs are in store for Family Relax time ;)


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My $400 is long gone, but out of curiosity - what do you get for $60?

https://www.opensky.com/...p-e:20170315011847:s
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The second picture looks very similar to these: http://amzn.to/2nqHyBB

Regardless if they are different, I haven't tested them and don't plan to. Frankly the knee section is my favorite part if only to warm up the joints and ligaments a bit. I have an idea about what the parts inside these units cost and $400 is about the bottom line. Although Amazon reviews aren't really that great of system, 200 reviews of 1 star out of 472 isn't exactly a ringing endorsement. On second thought, maybe I will order a pair just to see what they are like. I am quite curious after reading some of the reviews.


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How noisy are those recovery boots ? Can you use them while watching TV ? while the wife is around ?
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How noisy are those recovery boots ? Can you use them while watching TV ? while the wife is around ?

I keep meaning to get a decibel meter to measure both Normatec and Air Relax. You should not have any problem watching TV and frankly, I don't even have a problem watching things with my tiny laptop speakers. The units use a compressor so there is some noise in the pumping and deflating.


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Since Jan about a dozen of my hockey buddies all bought the Air Relax boots after trying my Norma's using the discount code Thomas provided...they all love them and have been recommending them to others-
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zivp wrote:
How noisy are those recovery boots ? Can you use them while watching TV ? while the wife is around ?


I keep meaning to get a decibel meter to measure both Normatec and Air Relax. You should not have any problem watching TV and frankly, I don't even have a problem watching things with my tiny laptop speakers. The units use a compressor so there is some noise in the pumping and deflating.


There are some mobile phone decibel meter apps.

I have Air Relax. They are not that noisy. As you said, you shouldn't have any problem watching TV.

https://blogs.cdc.gov/...14/04/09/sound-apps/


https://www.cdc.gov/...opics/noise/app.html
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Had the chance to use the competing Dr. Air system post race in Texas as some buddies had them. I liked the fact the boots were a bit longer than the Air Relax - I am about 6'2" and my Air Relax boots only come up about 3/4 of the way up my thighs - the Dr. Air system were a fair bit taller. I thought the boot construction on Air Relax was nicer. The Dr. Air compression unit looked a little snazzier with the blue and green lights and did have a nice variable pressure dial, but I think the Air Relax does an overall better job. Absolutely love my system, with the small caveat that I wish the boots were a bit taller.

Great recommendation Thomas! Sorry I didn't say hi down in Texas, but I figured pre race you had better things to worry about.
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Looking at a pair of the Air Relax boots for my wife and I. Problem is I'm 6'3" and she's 5'3". What size would you recommend?
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Looking at a pair of the Air Relax boots for my wife and I. Problem is I'm 6'3" and she's 5'3". What size would you recommend?

My wife and I are the same - we bought the normal ones (the long was sold out), and they're a little short on me, but I don't think the longs would work for my wife. Not ideal, but I still find them very effective.
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I would suggest normal length. Frankly, I wasn't aware there was a variance in lengths available when I bought mine in 2016 - wonder if its possible just to order the boots if I didn't get teh right length,
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Had the chance to use the competing Dr. Air system post race in Texas as some buddies had them. I liked the fact the boots were a bit longer than the Air Relax - I am about 6'2" and my Air Relax boots only come up about 3/4 of the way up my thighs - the Dr. Air system were a fair bit taller. I thought the boot construction on Air Relax was nicer. The Dr. Air compression unit looked a little snazzier with the blue and green lights and did have a nice variable pressure dial, but I think the Air Relax does an overall better job. Absolutely love my system, with the small caveat that I wish the boots were a bit taller.


Great recommendation Thomas! Sorry I didn't say hi down in Texas, but I figured pre race you had better things to worry about.


Always feel ok to say hi. You didn't know this but I was just there going thru the motions on the day seeing where I am at post-mono so I would have been happy to chat even at length. Also, know that the Air Relax do now come in large version for people over 6 feet 2. The large is a tad bit longer than the regular Normatec. Not sure how long the large Normatec are. I have updated the original post to include that pertinent info about large now. You can buy just the long legs for $240 now too.


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Looking at a pair of the Air Relax boots for my wife and I. Problem is I'm 6'3" and she's 5'3". What size would you recommend?

My advice would be just to get two pairs of the actual boots. One short and one long. At first the only way you could long was to buy a system but now you can buy just the long legs. The long legs are $40 more than short. . You can get just the short legs on Amazon, but you can't buy the long legs on Amazon. Air Relax website is the only way as of now and you can use the coupon on just the legs.


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thanks....unfortunately the longer legs are out of stock for now.
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thanks....unfortunately the longer legs are out of stock for now.

Yeah I saw that. Looks like if people are just ordering a system new they can get the longer boots. But just the long boots by themselves are back to being "out of stock". I did send them an email last night about it. They said 2 weeks and they will have more.


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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
zivp wrote:
How noisy are those recovery boots ? Can you use them while watching TV ? while the wife is around ?


I keep meaning to get a decibel meter to measure both Normatec and Air Relax. You should not have any problem watching TV and frankly, I don't even have a problem watching things with my tiny laptop speakers. The units use a compressor so there is some noise in the pumping and deflating.


There are some mobile phone decibel meter apps.

I have Air Relax. They are not that noisy. As you said, you shouldn't have any problem watching TV.

https://blogs.cdc.gov/...14/04/09/sound-apps/


https://www.cdc.gov/...opics/noise/app.html

Thanks for that info. I guess I don't have any excuses now to actually do it. Plus it saves me from having to buy yet another 1-time use physical device.


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Any idea why they only recommend 15 minute sessions with the Air Relax but NormaTec says up to an hour for recovery?
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Any idea why they only recommend 15 minute sessions with the Air Relax but NormaTec says up to an hour for recovery?

don't know.. but i run the air relax 2/3x... so min 30min usually.
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Just curious if you knew anyone who tried to exchange a unit that came with regular boots for one with long boots and what their experience was like. I'm right on the edge of the 6' mark and I feel like I made a mistake going with the regular boots since they don't reach the top of my legs for upper hamstrings and quads. I'm hoping it's not too much of a pain to get the boots exchanged. I tried putting my foot through but it's tight and not exactly a pleasant experience.
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Just curious if you knew anyone who tried to exchange a unit that came with regular boots for one with long boots and what their experience was like. I'm right on the edge of the 6' mark and I feel like I made a mistake going with the regular boots since they don't reach the top of my legs for upper hamstrings and quads. I'm hoping it's not too much of a pain to get the boots exchanged. I tried putting my foot through but it's tight and not exactly a pleasant experience.

How big are your hamstring and quads? I have both the long and short version. The short version was the only available version when I got mine, the long version really just came out in January. I have an inseam of 33.63 so even though I am only 5 feet 9 my legs are long. The long version of Air Relax are a little bit longer than the regular Normatec. I do prefer the long version of Air Relax but if using them in a family, the spouse is probably not going to be able to fit into them so the short version works great for multiple people.

The long legs are in really short supply. Basically they can't keep them in stock. I was told on 4/7 that they would be in stock in two weeks, for leg only purchases, and after just checking the website it appears they made that happen and are back in stock but I have no idea how many they got in. So far now, all those that wanted long boots can purchase them, just the boots. Usually once the long legs sell out the only way to get the long legs is with a NEW system.


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I don't have a tape measure on me right now, but the regular version sit about 3 or 4 inches from my hip. I just got the new system yesterday. Hopefully I don't have to ship it back, pay the 10% restocking fee + shipping + new system + shipping. I guess I'm jumping the gun and should just wait for their reply.
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I don't have a tape measure on me right now, but the regular version sit about 3 or 4 inches from my hip. I just got the new system yesterday. Hopefully I don't have to ship it back, pay the 10% restocking fee + shipping + new system + shipping. I guess I'm jumping the gun and should just wait for their reply.

To me this is really being driven by consumers perceptions. The shorter boots hit all the critical areas for me. Sure they miss the very top for some but the reality is all the important areas for me including the foot, achilles, calf, knee area, quads and hamstrings are hit. This is where most of the fluid retention is IMO and what needs to be moved around. The reality is the longer boots cover a little more area for those that are tall but can also pinch the boys if you are a guy. This happens on both the Normatec and longer Air Relax for me.Your boys are right in there and you have to spread your legs apart and sometimes rearrange the boys. When you forget to get setup properly you quickly realize this when they get pinched so it isn't all positives.

The reality is I go with the longer boots but I am not sure how much benefit I am getting in that last couple of inches. I will say the longer boots are more expensive, they are about $40 more. I am always interested in hearing customer service stories but at the same time knowing some internals to the pricing and margins to the company I can say Air Relax isn't even making money at the current price point. They are trying to gain market share. Returns are expensive and shipping something both ways is expensive too. They are learning and growing but with choice creates confusion, buyers remorse etc. I believe that Air Relax is a reason Normatec recently reduced their price and that is a good thing. I see Air Relax continuing to get more and more expensive and Normatec coming down. I think in a year Air Relax will be $499 and Normatec will be closer to $999.

Fwiw, Normatec and Air Relax have both given me access to ask questions etc. I like both companies and the people at Air Relax do a really good job of getting back to me. If you have any issues, I will send them a message on your behalf.


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You make a good point about the last couple of inches probably being of marginal importance. For me, I'm usually sore there from riding in the aero position so I'd like to get the area covered. I'll post my customer service story after I get it sorted out. I'm hoping that it'll be as simple as just sending them the short boots and not having to package the whole unit, etc, etc. I know they're more expensive, I'm definitely not trying to get them for free or whatever. Thanks for your insights!
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jazzymusicman wrote:
You make a good point about the last couple of inches probably being of marginal importance. For me, I'm usually sore there from riding in the aero position so I'd like to get the area covered. I'll post my customer service story after I get it sorted out. I'm hoping that it'll be as simple as just sending them the short boots and not having to package the whole unit, etc, etc. I know they're more expensive, I'm definitely not trying to get them for free or whatever. Thanks for your insights!

No worries. I only mention because I am huge consumer advocate. Competition is great for consumers and Air Relax and their low price is not just a low price. It is low because they are keeping it low to gain market share. They also sell on Amazon and because of that they have to manage reputation. Your Amazon reputation is everything. They are the only seller on Amazon because it is their product, they are the sole US Distributor.


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Thanks TG! BTW my 75 year old dad has borrowed my boots to help with a pulled hamstring. He loves them and I may never get mine back!!
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Thanks TG! BTW my 75 year old dad has borrowed my boots to help with a pulled hamstring. He loves them and I may never get mine back!!

Yeah I was at BBQ, trying to stay fat, my weight is dropping like a rock, and a really large sedentary person with compression stockings came "walking" out and I was thinking I should mention to him. But yes lots of use-cases. I mean Normatec as we know it was designed for athletes but they have their own medical boots as well.

I also like to use them for this specific reason as your dad. For people that don't use boots they don't understand how warm the tissues get from all the squeezing + lack of ventilation and it can really help loosen up the stiff muscles.


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You make a good point about the last couple of inches probably being of marginal importance. For me, I'm usually sore there from riding in the aero position so I'd like to get the area covered. I'll post my customer service story after I get it sorted out. I'm hoping that it'll be as simple as just sending them the short boots and not having to package the whole unit, etc, etc. I know they're more expensive, I'm definitely not trying to get them for free or whatever. Thanks for your insights!

Circling back around on this. Did they get back to you? If so what was the end result?


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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
jazzymusicman wrote:
You make a good point about the last couple of inches probably being of marginal importance. For me, I'm usually sore there from riding in the aero position so I'd like to get the area covered. I'll post my customer service story after I get it sorted out. I'm hoping that it'll be as simple as just sending them the short boots and not having to package the whole unit, etc, etc. I know they're more expensive, I'm definitely not trying to get them for free or whatever. Thanks for your insights!


Circling back around on this. Did they get back to you? If so what was the end result?

Hey Thomas,

They reached out rather quickly and offered to send me out a pair of the longer boots for the difference + shipping so I could decide and then I could RMA whichever pair I didn't want. Overall pretty satisfied with the options. After thinking about what you said, I'm mulling it over before spending more money since my wife (who is short) is eyeing them and even though I do wish they came up higher, I can live with it if gets me off the hook for spending the money in the first place. Thanks for your advice and for following up.
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jazzymusicman wrote:
You make a good point about the last couple of inches probably being of marginal importance. For me, I'm usually sore there from riding in the aero position so I'd like to get the area covered. I'll post my customer service story after I get it sorted out. I'm hoping that it'll be as simple as just sending them the short boots and not having to package the whole unit, etc, etc. I know they're more expensive, I'm definitely not trying to get them for free or whatever. Thanks for your insights!


Circling back around on this. Did they get back to you? If so what was the end result?


Hey Thomas,

They reached out rather quickly and offered to send me out a pair of the longer boots for the difference + shipping so I could decide and then I could RMA whichever pair I didn't want. Overall pretty satisfied with the options. After thinking about what you said, I'm mulling it over before spending more money since my wife (who is short) is eyeing them and even though I do wish they came up higher, I can live with it if gets me off the hook for spending the money in the first place. Thanks for your advice and for following up.

Wow, that is actually a pretty nice option to allow you try out the long boots and decide for yourself. I guess nothing would be more frustrating than to go long and then realize you preferred short but this solves that problem. Now I really appreciate you sharing!!! Thanks.


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Just curious if you did ever try out the cheapo leg massager. I'm curious to try out recovery boots as I have started to encounter some ankle/leg issues in one leg after some hard runs but can't quite get a $400 (let alone a $1,300) purchase request approved by the CFO at the moment. I understand you rep the Air Relax boots (which I am saving up for) but wonder if a cheap alternative in the meantime would be beneficial or a waste of time.
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Just curious if you did ever try out the cheapo leg massager. I'm curious to try out recovery boots as I have started to encounter some ankle/leg issues in one leg after some hard runs but can't quite get a $400 (let alone a $1,300) purchase request approved by the CFO at the moment. I understand you rep the Air Relax boots (which I am saving up for) but wonder if a cheap alternative in the meantime would be beneficial or a waste of time.

I'm really diggin' the Air Relax boots, and while I feel a little fresher using them, they do nothing for tightness. I still have to foam roll with my rumble roller and trigger point ball. When I'm feeling lazy I still use a cheapo massager that's worked wonders for me I got a few years ago off Amazon. It just doesn't get very deep.
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HoustonTri(er) wrote:
Just curious if you did ever try out the cheapo leg massager. I'm curious to try out recovery boots as I have started to encounter some ankle/leg issues in one leg after some hard runs but can't quite get a $400 (let alone a $1,300) purchase request approved by the CFO at the moment. I understand you rep the Air Relax boots (which I am saving up for) but wonder if a cheap alternative in the meantime would be beneficial or a waste of time.

I haven't tried out those boots to be fair, and at this point I probably won't as I am just way to far behind on other stuff at the current moment. Happy to hear the thoughts of others but given just the manufacturing cost of both the boots from Air Relax and Normatec, I really question whether they can work effectively.


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HoustonTri(er) wrote:
Just curious if you did ever try out the cheapo leg massager. I'm curious to try out recovery boots as I have started to encounter some ankle/leg issues in one leg after some hard runs but can't quite get a $400 (let alone a $1,300) purchase request approved by the CFO at the moment. I understand you rep the Air Relax boots (which I am saving up for) but wonder if a cheap alternative in the meantime would be beneficial or a waste of time.


I'm really diggin' the Air Relax boots, and while I feel a little fresher using them, they do nothing for tightness. I still have to foam roll with my rumble roller and trigger point ball. When I'm feeling lazy I still use a cheapo massager that's worked wonders for me I got a few years ago off Amazon. It just doesn't get very deep.

Right yes, they are not a replacement for a really deep tissue massage or foam rolling. More to help promote circulation. The Rumble Roller is amazing. Have you tried a harder, larger spikey ball to work in the hip capsule or upper hamstrings. It is amazing. Definitely everyone needs one. This appears to be the exact same one I have and love. My regular source is out of stock of these.


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I got a pair from China for under $300 plus shipping. They work like a dream and saved me a helluva lot of cash. These systems are all the same. Let me know if you're interested in a pair, you won't regret this purchase but you will regret a $1500 Normatec purchase.
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I got a pair from China for under $300 plus shipping. They work like a dream and saved me a helluva lot of cash. These systems are all the same. Let me know if you're interested in a pair, you won't regret this purchase but you will regret a $1500 Normatec purchase.

you got a link please ?
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I got a pair from China for under $300 plus shipping. They work like a dream and saved me a helluva lot of cash. These systems are all the same. Let me know if you're interested in a pair, you won't regret this purchase but you will regret a $1500 Normatec purchase.

I still think the Normatec system is the premier system if you have the money. Yes it is a heck of a lot of money, with the recent $100 price drop and a easily found discount the price is now $1395. I would really like to see Normatec come with a 3-year warranty though for that price.

I agree that all the systems do the same basic function but they need to be able to last. At least for myself, someone who sits in them for hours a day they have to be able to handle many many cycles. I did have my original Normatec Pulse die after about 7 months, but they replaced it under warranty no problem. No long-term issues with the Air Relax and fwiw Air Relax is made in Korea.


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realtalk wrote:
I got a pair from China for under $300 plus shipping. They work like a dream and saved me a helluva lot of cash. These systems are all the same. Let me know if you're interested in a pair, you won't regret this purchase but you will regret a $1500 Normatec purchase.


you got a link please ?

You can get the Air Relax for ~$370 if you use the discount here. They have US models for US voltage so no need to worry about adapters. In addition, if you have a warranty issue you are sending back within the US. Shipping back to China is going to essentially kill warranty coverage as the units are heavy. Air Relax is made in the Korea, and the US Distributor (Orange Tree Trade), is in California.


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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
timujin wrote:
realtalk wrote:
I got a pair from China for under $300 plus shipping. They work like a dream and saved me a helluva lot of cash. These systems are all the same. Let me know if you're interested in a pair, you won't regret this purchase but you will regret a $1500 Normatec purchase.


you got a link please ?


You can get the Air Relax for ~$370 if you use the discount here. They have US models for US voltage so no need to worry about adapters. In addition, if you have a warranty issue you are sending back within the US. Shipping back to China is going to essentially kill warranty coverage as the units are heavy. Air Relax is made in the Korea, and the US Distributor (Orange Tree Trade), is in California.

hey thomas

im in the gibraltar, what shipping rates would be charged?
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timujin wrote:
realtalk wrote:
I got a pair from China for under $300 plus shipping. They work like a dream and saved me a helluva lot of cash. These systems are all the same. Let me know if you're interested in a pair, you won't regret this purchase but you will regret a $1500 Normatec purchase.


you got a link please ?


You can get the Air Relax for ~$370 if you use the discount here. They have US models for US voltage so no need to worry about adapters. In addition, if you have a warranty issue you are sending back within the US. Shipping back to China is going to essentially kill warranty coverage as the units are heavy. Air Relax is made in the Korea, and the US Distributor (Orange Tree Trade), is in California.


hey thomas

im in the gibraltar, what shipping rates would be charged?

Given that you are not in the US, then you would need the 220V version anyway. Air Relax does ship internationally but not to Gibraltar. I can check on who the European distributor might be though for you. That might be your best option.


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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
realtalk wrote:
I got a pair from China for under $300 plus shipping. They work like a dream and saved me a helluva lot of cash. These systems are all the same. Let me know if you're interested in a pair, you won't regret this purchase but you will regret a $1500 Normatec purchase.


I still think the Normatec system is the premier system if you have the money. Yes it is a heck of a lot of money, with the recent $100 price drop and a easily found discount the price is now $1395. I would really like to see Normatec come with a 3-year warranty though for that price.

I agree that all the systems do the same basic function but they need to be able to last. At least for myself, someone who sits in them for hours a day they have to be able to handle many many cycles. I did have my original Normatec Pulse die after about 7 months, but they replaced it under warranty no problem. No long-term issues with the Air Relax and fwiw Air Relax is made in Korea.


Thomas, thomas, thomass...you left out one important word that makes the AirRelax a deal breaker for most...made in NORTH Korea! #smh #normakim #swimbikekim
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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
realtalk wrote:
I got a pair from China for under $300 plus shipping. They work like a dream and saved me a helluva lot of cash. These systems are all the same. Let me know if you're interested in a pair, you won't regret this purchase but you will regret a $1500 Normatec purchase.


I still think the Normatec system is the premier system if you have the money. Yes it is a heck of a lot of money, with the recent $100 price drop and a easily found discount the price is now $1395. I would really like to see Normatec come with a 3-year warranty though for that price.

I agree that all the systems do the same basic function but they need to be able to last. At least for myself, someone who sits in them for hours a day they have to be able to handle many many cycles. I did have my original Normatec Pulse die after about 7 months, but they replaced it under warranty no problem. No long-term issues with the Air Relax and fwiw Air Relax is made in Korea.



Thomas, thomas, thomass...you left out one important word that makes the AirRelax a deal breaker for most...made in NORTH Korea! #smh #normakim #swimbikekim

LOL, actually when I first called the company they dropped the *North Korea* line and my heart fell into my stomach. They sounded super serious in the delivery and frankly it took me a half second to realize it was a joke. Definitely not enough caffeine that morning.


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Customer service reps with a sense of humor?! OMG I might buy a pair just because of that

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Customer service reps with a sense of humor?! OMG I might buy a pair just because of that

It is a smaller family-owned company which I am sure helps.


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I managed to get hold of a used clinical model sequential leg compression system to try out this recovery. You have mentioned in some of your posts about spending hours in your boots. As someone who doesn't have that amount of time to sit relaxing - work, wife, and kids won't allow that - do you have any advice as to amount of time to spend in the boots where you have seen a benefit? Or just a case of spend as much time as you can and see what results I get? Is there an amount of time below - say 15mins - that you might skip using them as there would be limited benefit?
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I managed to get hold of a used clinical model sequential leg compression system to try out this recovery. You have mentioned in some of your posts about spending hours in your boots. As someone who doesn't have that amount of time to sit relaxing - work, wife, and kids won't allow that - do you have any advice as to amount of time to spend in the boots where you have seen a benefit? Or just a case of spend as much time as you can and see what results I get? Is there an amount of time below - say 15mins - that you might skip using them as there would be limited benefit?

I haven't given it that much thought honestly as to what amount of time is necessary to get the most benefit. Ideally I don't think you need to go that long, just long enough to get the blood flowing thru the legs. It might only be necessary to do 15 mins but probably not less than that. Having watched roommates use the boots I am always amazed they just crank them up. For me, I like to work into the process and increment the pressure as I go. I would probably skip myself if I wasn't going to sit in for 15 minutes. There isn't a ton of overhead, but still overhead getting into the boots.


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I managed to get hold of a used clinical model sequential leg compression system to try out this recovery. You have mentioned in some of your posts about spending hours in your boots. As someone who doesn't have that amount of time to sit relaxing - work, wife, and kids won't allow that - do you have any advice as to amount of time to spend in the boots where you have seen a benefit? Or just a case of spend as much time as you can and see what results I get? Is there an amount of time below - say 15mins - that you might skip using them as there would be limited benefit?

15 minutes is enough. 30 is slightly better. Anything more than that and I really don't notice much difference.
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I have been trying to stick with 2 cycles when I have it but have done 1 a few times but never more. Maybe after a race I might go lighter but longer. But after a week my go to settings are "point" with all the legs and B. Very happy with them so far and if they can replace my massages they will pay for themselves within a year!

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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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For some great value recovery boots, check out ours:


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For some great value recovery boots, check out ours:


https://www.recoverysystemssport.com/products/pt1002-digital-controller



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Yeah but that is $500 more than the exact same Recovery Reboot system.


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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [greenlawnracing] [ In reply to ]
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Wife must really love me as she bought me a pair for my bday. Been fine so far for a few weeks.

Taking them in my carry on has been interesting. I finally learned to take them out at security.

What are you guys using as far as a case?

Did you ever sort out a case for your Air Relax? If so what are you using? I did get final confirmation that *official* cases are coming sometime in August. Could get delayed by customs/dock workers of course always but that is the timeline for now.


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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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greenlawnracing wrote:
Wife must really love me as she bought me a pair for my bday. Been fine so far for a few weeks.

Taking them in my carry on has been interesting. I finally learned to take them out at security.

What are you guys using as far as a case?

Did you ever sort out a case for your Air Relax? If so what are you using? I did get final confirmation that *official* cases are coming sometime in August. Could get delayed by customs/dock workers of course always but that is the timeline for now.

Did not - please let me know when they are available!

Any idea on price?
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [greenlawnracing] [ In reply to ]
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greenlawnracing wrote:
Thomas Gerlach wrote:
greenlawnracing wrote:
Wife must really love me as she bought me a pair for my bday. Been fine so far for a few weeks.

Taking them in my carry on has been interesting. I finally learned to take them out at security.

What are you guys using as far as a case?

Did you ever sort out a case for your Air Relax? If so what are you using? I did get final confirmation that *official* cases are coming sometime in August. Could get delayed by customs/dock workers of course always but that is the timeline for now.

Did not - please let me know when they are available!

Any idea on price?
I didn't even think to ask but I will.


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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Thomas Gerlach wrote:
greenlawnracing wrote:
Thomas Gerlach wrote:
greenlawnracing wrote:
Wife must really love me as she bought me a pair for my bday. Been fine so far for a few weeks.

Taking them in my carry on has been interesting. I finally learned to take them out at security.

What are you guys using as far as a case?

Did you ever sort out a case for your Air Relax? If so what are you using? I did get final confirmation that *official* cases are coming sometime in August. Could get delayed by customs/dock workers of course always but that is the timeline for now.

Did not - please let me know when they are available!

Any idea on price?
I didn't even think to ask but I will.


Tell them not to do the crazy Normatec pricing!
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [greenlawnracing] [ In reply to ]
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greenlawnracing wrote:
Thomas Gerlach wrote:
greenlawnracing wrote:
Thomas Gerlach wrote:
greenlawnracing wrote:
Wife must really love me as she bought me a pair for my bday. Been fine so far for a few weeks.

Taking them in my carry on has been interesting. I finally learned to take them out at security.

What are you guys using as far as a case?

Did you ever sort out a case for your Air Relax? If so what are you using? I did get final confirmation that *official* cases are coming sometime in August. Could get delayed by customs/dock workers of course always but that is the timeline for now.

Did not - please let me know when they are available!

Any idea on price?
I didn't even think to ask but I will.


Tell them not to do the crazy Normatec pricing!

Was quoted $65-$75 with final determination based on import costs. Have a Happy 4th of July.


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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [mad] [ In reply to ]
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My opinion.... I purchased to air relax and returned them within a day. yes they are 400 dollars and way cheaper but they function like 400 dollar recovery boots. The unit itself is not the same, the features are different, it only gives 15min session and the compression does NOT feel remotely the same. You can get a pair of normatecs at a half or full ironman for a grand. For me, the extra 600 dollars was worth it.

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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [mtstanek] [ In reply to ]
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mtstanek wrote:
My opinion.... I purchased to air relax and returned them within a day. yes they are 400 dollars and way cheaper but they function like 400 dollar recovery boots. The unit itself is not the same, the features are different, it only gives 15min session and the compression does NOT feel remotely the same. You can get a pair of normatecs at a half or full ironman for a grand. For me, the extra 600 dollars was worth it.


If you are using boots for how they "feel" that is the wrong the approach IMHO . It isn't how they feel it is what they DO that matters.

As an emergency physician you should be somewhat familiar with the fact that there are some hoops and hurdles for being a FDA Class II Medical Device. My suspicion is the Class II Medical Device cert drives the 15 min session but it takes a 1/4 of a second to start another session and it really isn't an issue unless you happen to be one of the people with a very specific "use case". That "use case" is those that wish to fall asleep in the boots.

You have to remember too that when this thread started the Normatec was priced quite a bit higher. They were $1695. Now everyone can get Normatec for $1395 with the $100 coupon that is always floating around. In addition, I am not aware of Normatec being sold for the price you stated unless you are referring to the used demo boots that they sometimes sell. They aren't supposed to be selling new boots at that as then their dealers would be pissed. I am also not sure if the warranty applies in that case either, I need to check on that.

I can say as someone who switches, everyday, which boots he uses, I have no plans to discontinue switching. While the gap between the two is closing there is still a huge price difference. I talk to many users of boots who love Air Relax. Trying a pair for a day is NOT a test. It sounds like you might have significant bias to start with. In college I ate Qdobe at least 4-5x times a week. When I moved to Minneapolis there was a Chipotle across the street. At first I didn't think it was that great. I had significant bias in favor of Qdoba. Slowly but surely Chipotle grew on me. It grew on me so much that I would never choose Qdoba over Chipotle now. Although, I know it is too late now, I would have suggested using Air Relax for a month and then forming an opinion. A day is simply not long enough and I wonder if there is a break-in period for the boots as well.


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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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Holy shit gerlach you have a lot of time on your hands. NormaTecs for the win!!

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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [mtstanek] [ In reply to ]
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Air Relax is the smart choice!
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [TJ56] [ In reply to ]
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I'm very happy with Air Relax.... I use them after a few sessions of GameReady on my knees.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [spntrxi] [ In reply to ]
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i have been very happy with my air relax boots...def worth the price and the level 3-4 compression is quite intense. paid 325 on amazon. good value.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [mtstanek] [ In reply to ]
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Holy shit gerlach you have a lot of time on your hands. NormaTecs for the win!!

Always too much time on my hands :)

Btw, you never responded. I guess I didn't really phrase it as a direct question in my previous reply but do you know if the pair of boots you got from the expo used or new? And do you know if they still come with the warranty? If so are the warranty terms changed at all?


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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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They are the "demo boots" for the weekend that you are purchasing for a thousand (if you purchase them the first day of the expo they are never used). And yes, they do come with the warranty to the best of my knowledge.

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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [mtstanek] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for the follow-up. I'll have to keep a note on that as a good way to score a deal. Interesting loop hole but I assume you surely have to pay tax in that situation as well. And yes I realize that you have to pay the tax regardless with internet purchases but the reality is very few do and is a selling point to some. Is it $1,000 out the door or $1,000 plus tax?


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charlietris wrote:
i have been very happy with my air relax boots...def worth the price and the level 3-4 compression is quite intense. paid 325 on amazon. good value.
Did you get them new or used for that price? If so, may I ask how? (Special deal, coupon code, etc)
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [140.6sj] [ In reply to ]
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i bought the boots new on amazon.com, no coupon or anything. imlp is coming up and my legs have been feeling great:)
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charlietris wrote:
i have been very happy with my air relax boots...def worth the price and the level 3-4 compression is quite intense. paid 325 on amazon. good value.

Did you get them new or used for that price? If so, may I ask how? (Special deal, coupon code, etc)

The dark boots are more expensive than the orange. Not sure which ones CharlieTris got, but the price is pretty much the price these days. I know that AirRelax has a bunch of dealers out there but they started getting serious about controlling the price and don't let the Air Relax boots sold by dealers for less than $375. OrangeTreeTrade on Amazon is the official US Distributor. You can save a few bucks purchasing direct off their website with the code in my signature line below. If you have any other questions, happy to answer.


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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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I dont remember what I got them for... 20% off is all I remember. Left them in my cart at Air Relax and got a coupon code the next day... that tactic didn't work for Roka :(
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spntrxi wrote:
I dont remember what I got them for... 20% off is all I remember. Left them in my cart at Air Relax and got a coupon code the next day... that tactic didn't work for Roka :(

Sizing on these things: What size did any/everyone get on the Air relax? I'm 5'11" (and .75), so almost 6'. 32-34" inseam for jeans. Size 3 "says" it'll work...but should I just step up and get 4 since they size small?
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Culley22 wrote:
spntrxi wrote:
I dont remember what I got them for... 20% off is all I remember. Left them in my cart at Air Relax and got a coupon code the next day... that tactic didn't work for Roka :(


Sizing on these things: What size did any/everyone get on the Air relax? I'm 5'11" (and .75), so almost 6'. 32-34" inseam for jeans. Size 3 "says" it'll work...but should I just step up and get 4 since they size small?

I wouldn't hesitate to step up to size 4. I really need to do a side-by-side shot, but basically size 4 is just a tad longer than the regular Normatec boots.


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So I did replicate your experience. Just got the email now but it was only 5% although I did have a couple of pairs of boots in my cart, not sure if that matters or not. Curious when you bought your boots - if you can check the date I would appreciate it.


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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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So I did replicate your experience. Just got the email now but it was only 5% although I did have a couple of pairs of boots in my cart, not sure if that matters or not. Curious when you bought your boots - if you can check the date I would appreciate it.


back in January ... I tried this trick on another pair a couple months after ( was going to buy a set for my inlaws) and was only offered 6%. I've been offered 10% and 7% before too.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [greenlawnracing] [ In reply to ]
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greenlawnracing wrote:
Thomas Gerlach wrote:
greenlawnracing wrote:
Thomas Gerlach wrote:
greenlawnracing wrote:
Wife must really love me as she bought me a pair for my bday. Been fine so far for a few weeks.

Taking them in my carry on has been interesting. I finally learned to take them out at security.

What are you guys using as far as a case?


Did you ever sort out a case for your Air Relax? If so what are you using? I did get final confirmation that *official* cases are coming sometime in August. Could get delayed by customs/dock workers of course always but that is the timeline for now.


Did not - please let me know when they are available!

Any idea on price?
I didn't even think to ask but I will.



Tell them not to do the crazy Normatec pricing!

The case is now available. It has actually been available for a few weeks and I have one in my possession and traveling with it for the first time. I would like to do a quick review with some pictures but haven't gotten around to it yet. It is a high quality bag, even comes with a waterproof cover I guess so you can leave it out in the rain at the track / cc meet. $80 is the price. It is the about the same total size of the Normatec case but it is a longer and shorter


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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [Thomas Gerlach] [ In reply to ]
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nice looking case... I might use that instead of my Normatec case.. which I feel is on the small side.
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nice looking case... I might use that instead of my Normatec case.. which I feel is on the small side.

Plenty of room for sure. The Normatec case is a more hard shell case. If you anticipate anyone throwing around the bag like a rag doll that could be a positive.


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spntrxi wrote:
nice looking case... I might use that instead of my Normatec case.. which I feel is on the small side.


Plenty of room for sure. The Normatec case is a more hard shell case. If you anticipate anyone throwing around the bag like a rag doll that could be a positive.

do you continue to use both?.. I got the air relax first , then normatec. However I feel like the Air Relax is a great backup and maybe nice to keep around because it's pretty cheap afterall.
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Re: Affordable Recovery Boots from Amazon [spntrxi] [ In reply to ]
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spntrxi wrote:
Thomas Gerlach wrote:
spntrxi wrote:
nice looking case... I might use that instead of my Normatec case.. which I feel is on the small side.


Plenty of room for sure. The Normatec case is a more hard shell case. If you anticipate anyone throwing around the bag like a rag doll that could be a positive.


do you continue to use both?.. I got the air relax first , then normatec. However I feel like the Air Relax is a great backup and maybe nice to keep around because it's pretty cheap afterall.

Sorry for the late reply, I missed this while traveling for Ironman Wisconsin. I do use both and I will continue to use both. I don't want to end up pigeoned into one niche, but there are various changes, updates etc, from both brands, and people will continue to ask me questions and I want to make sure I can answer them. For instance, Air Relax has come out with 2 more boot sizes since I originally wrote up my piece way back in Aug of 2016. They have come out with a case because they realized that people who use them for sport actually travel with them as opposed to the medical need which tends to be for people who are NOT in great health.

One of my biggest disappointments with the first version of the Normatec Pulse was the battery was always draining when not plugged in, which means it could be dead when I ACTUALLY wanted to use it without the cord. Supposedly that has been fixed in the 2018 version but I would like to test it and make sure it does because that is a feature I use and I know others use it as well.

But you are right, either way two pairs makes a good backup. When I first got started in boots it was because a roommate had a pair. With 3 athletes in one roof and one pair of boots it always was a challenge to get some time in them when they weren't mine... but it was something I knew I needed so I started staying up a bit later so I could get quality time in them. Now when I think about them going bust it is not big deal because I have a couple of pairs, but the typical person doesn't and often times you don't realize how much you miss something until it is gone.

Either way the squeeze provided is different and a little variation never hurt anyone. I think of this in relationship to always keeping a couple of running shoes in the rotation.


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