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Tacx Neo - Ask me anything
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Hi guys,

I guess some of you are waiting for or thinking about buying the new Tacx Neo. Luckily for me, I managed to snap up one a week ago.

Since it seems hard to get first hand experience about the trainer: Feel free to ask me anything about it!
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [julesg88] [ In reply to ]
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I'm tempted to get into the "smart" trainer side of things, but am a bit ignorant as to exactly how they work.
For example, when people do "erg" workouts. Do they pre programme a series of intervals and then the trainer provides the right amount resistance regardless of cadence or bike gearing?

Also, how does the ride feel compared to:
a) Any previous trainers you've had (with examples)
b) TT efforts on the road

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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [julesg88] [ In reply to ]
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Where did you snap yours up from, you in the USA?
Is the Neo far better than any trainer you have used before, what trainers have you used?
I've heard bad things about Tacx software, how has your experince been thus far.
Is it making you "enjoy" indoor riding?

Thanks.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [julesg88] [ In reply to ]
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How much side to side motion does it provide?

WTB: TriRig Omega SV (not x). PM me if you have one :)
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [GreenPlease] [ In reply to ]
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Got mine in Germany from an online retailer where I live (last unit, he told me they are selling right as they come in).

Side to side movement: Just a bit, I wouldn't say that it is much more than my old Tacx Satori.

Software: So far only rode it on Zwift, which works really well. I'll try TrainerRoad + Sufferfest videos soon and report back, but I already heard that resistance onset is delayed in TR.

Comparison with my old trainer (Tacx Satori):
First of all: MUCH more quiet. I wouldn't say that it is "whisper silent" though, but the majority of the sound is the chain + some light humming from the device itself. Quiet enough to not have to turn up the TV volume.

It is my first smart trainer with automatic resistance control, which I really love.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [julesg88] [ In reply to ]
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julesg88 wrote:
Feel free to ask me anything about it!

Can you check if it runs ok with our software? We've tested it with other FE-C smart trainer from Tacx (iVortex Smart that works just fine) but we did not yet test it with NEO ourselves.

http://veloreality.com
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [julesg88] [ In reply to ]
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julesg88 wrote:
I'll try TrainerRoad + Sufferfest videos soon and report back, but I already heard that resistance onset is delayed in TR.

Can you elaborate on the resistance onset delay? Is this in issue with TrainerRoad or is the Neo just slow to change the resistance in Erg mode?
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [julesg88] [ In reply to ]
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Why is it so freaking huge?
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [GAUG3] [ In reply to ]
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GAUG3 wrote:
Why is it so freaking huge?



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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [julesg88] [ In reply to ]
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My main question would be around ease of setup. I avoided the old Tacx trainers because of lengthy setup and s/w reliability issues. I wound up purchasing a Kickr which I love but it is loud . . . or at least so my wife says. The second question would be really how loud it is. It is hard to measure this from the on the trainer. It would be interesting to hear from a third party (spouse, neighbor, etc.)


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Reading, PA
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [mcmetal] [ In reply to ]
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mcmetal wrote:
Can you elaborate on the resistance onset delay? Is this in issue with TrainerRoad or is the Neo just slow to change the resistance in Erg mode?
Although I don't yet own a Neo, posts from the Tacx user forums indicate that that issues exist in which resistance can take a long as 30-seconds to ramp/adjust/stabilize following a a change in a wattage segment. Tacx has acknowledged the issue with the resistance ramp taking longer than normal with their iOS cycling app and an update has been submitted to the Apple store. TrainerRoad has also indicated tweaks are required for its implementation of support for the Neo but will not be able to address the issue until they receive a Neo trainer from Tacx's US importer.

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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [Mr. October] [ In reply to ]
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Mr. October wrote:
My main question would be around ease of setup. I avoided the old Tacx trainers because of lengthy setup and s/w reliability issues. I wound up purchasing a Kickr which I love but it is loud . . . or at least so my wife says. The second question would be really how loud it is. It is hard to measure this from the on the trainer. It would be interesting to hear from a third party (spouse, neighbor, etc.)

Re: noise, check this out if you haven't already: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2iGV6VYBKY
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [ms6073] [ In reply to ]
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ms6073 wrote:
mcmetal wrote:
Can you elaborate on the resistance onset delay? Is this in issue with TrainerRoad or is the Neo just slow to change the resistance in Erg mode?

Although I don't yet own a Neo, posts from the Tacx user forums indicate that that issues exist in which resistance can take a long as 30-seconds to ramp/adjust/stabilize following a a change in a wattage segment. Tacx has acknowledged the issue with the resistance ramp taking longer than normal with their iOS cycling app and an update has been submitted to the Apple store. TrainerRoad has also indicated tweaks are required for its implementation of support for the Neo but will not be able to address the issue until they receive a Neo trainer from Tacx's US importer.

It's sounding like a software issue then and not a hardware limitation. Just odd then that both the iOS app and trainerroad suffer the same bug in their implementation.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [tgarson] [ In reply to ]
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tgarson wrote:
Mr. October wrote:
My main question would be around ease of setup. I avoided the old Tacx trainers because of lengthy setup and s/w reliability issues. I wound up purchasing a Kickr which I love but it is loud . . . or at least so my wife says. The second question would be really how loud it is. It is hard to measure this from the on the trainer. It would be interesting to hear from a third party (spouse, neighbor, etc.)


Re: noise, check this out if you haven't already: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2iGV6VYBKY

I did see that. It sounds almost as loud to me in that video although I know DC Rainmaker clarified that the iPad wasn't the best measuring device and he was in a bit of a sound chamber. That is why I'm curious about real-world results. It is really hard to tell how loud it is from the trainer.


Pete Githens
Reading, PA
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [Mr. October] [ In reply to ]
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Gotcha, here's another impression from a separate thread that discusses the noise in practice. I have not ridden the Neo, but it seems obvious from the first impressions, videos and common sense that of course it is not a "silent" trainer. There is no belt noise like the KICKR and there may be lower overall noise, but there will certainly still be noise from the chain, cassette, flywheel and I'm sure some amount of noise and vibration from the Neo itself.

It seems to be a big improvement but as with any product I would try to keep my expectations somewhat grounded.


va1210 wrote:
I got the Neo last week and have gotten in a few short rides on it. Some initial impressions:

Assembly:

- Make sure you have a chain-whip and a Campagnolo cassette nut handy. Link
- The manual is very very short, and could have been slightly more elaborate regarding the cassette assembly part, as I wasn't able to find any mention of the extra spacer needed to mount a 10 spd cassette. Perhaps it's something obvious for the more experienced mechanic.
- Apart from that, everything else was self explanatory, and I was able to start riding right away.

Initial impressions while riding:

- The ride feel is very good, much better than my old Tacx Flow.
- The freewheel is ridiculously loud. I find it weird that a trainer this silent can sound like one of those ratchet noisemaker toys when coasting. Here's what someone wrote on the Tacx Forum. "The freewheel is the loudest sound the Neo makes. It's music to Campa-wheel-owners' ears. Note to others: Campa freewheels double as bicycle bell." Link Additional note to others: While you may be able to ride the neo without waking up your family, the ratcheting sound will definitely wake them up when you stop.
- While I don't have a separate power meter and can't really comment on accuracy, the power readings are in line with what I was expecting (I've ridden with a Stages meter a few times, so I have a good idea of where my wattage was supposed to be).
- While riding, the trainer is much more silent than any trainer I've seen/ridden before. When starting with low watts and gradually increasing power you sometimes feel like you're in ERG mode with constant power, as you can't really hear the added speed. After my regular trainer rides with increasing intensity I've had to double check on Garmin Connect that both speed and power were actually going up during the ride, as I just didn't feel like I was increasing my effort during the ride.
- My first ride was on the Zwift Richmond course, really hammering away on the hill sections, and afterwards my wife complained to me that she could hear the trainer resonating downstairs. This was a real disappointment, as the main reason for buying the Neo was its lack of noise. However, when I was riding in normal trainer mode the next few times (0 gradient) at steady 200ish watts she told me she couldn't hear a thing downstairs. So perhaps the tough hill sections (=high wattage) caused some additional structural vibration, who knows. I did, however, add extra rubber feet under the trainer after my first ride, so those might have made the difference. I still intend to do additional sound testing later.
- I wasn't really able to ride out of the saddle on the Zwift Richmond hills, it felt almost like the wheel was slipping. I noted that someone on the Tacx forum had a similar experience: "When climbing (>5%) it feels as if the back wheel is slipping." Link However, I might have been in the wrong gears or something, didn't really have a chance to do any thorough testing/optimization.
- When riding the Zwift Worlds course, I simultaneously recorded my effort with a 920XT. After the ride I was astonished to find that the 920XT was showing 15.34 km, while Zwift claimed 18.07 km! The average and max speeds were equally much off. Not sure what's going on here, as I expected the motor to accurately simulate the downhill sections, hence having both the transmitted ANT+ and Zwift speeds being more aligned. Perhaps someone with more Smart/FE-C experience can comment on this discrepancy?
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [tgarson] [ In reply to ]
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Hi

We have:
a KICKR
a SRM Trainer
a proprietary Trainer with a induction brake from a Daum 8008 and a big flywheel
and since 2 weeks a Neo

Noise:
Proprietary Trainer < SRM Trainer < Neo << KICKR
We setted up the Neo with a "dedicated" bike, the Neo is louder than the chain above some power

Feel:
Proprietary Trainer = SRM Trainer = Kickr > Neo
Nothing beats a high inertia flywheel

Software:
Use the Neo up to now with the Tacx App, the App has some minor bugs and the control in erg modus is verry conservative i.e. it takes long time

Pros of Neo:
Not as loud as the Kickr and as most trainers out there
Works without connection to the electric net

Cons of Neo:
Is louder than we hoped
Software can be improved
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [BergHügi] [ In reply to ]
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Are you using the Neo in ERG mode yet??

I am very interested to see if the power numbers are accurate as compared to an external power meter.

I have a KICKR and use my SRM to control it (which is now working well).

If the NEO proves to be accurate I might consider jumping on board so I would not need my SRM to control the KICKR.

Noise in not an issue for me... as my Pain Cave is in the basement.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [mcmetal] [ In reply to ]
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As some of you alluded to, we're currently having some challenges with how we receive/interpret data from the Neo. We're working with Tacx to get a unit so that our developers can get this resolved as quickly as possible. Stay tuned!

Professional Mountain Biker and Community Manager at TrainerRoad - Cycling's Most Effective Training Tool
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [Donzo98] [ In reply to ]
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Donzo98 wrote:
Are you using the Neo in ERG mode yet??

I am very interested to see if the power numbers are accurate as compared to an external power meter.

I have a KICKR and use my SRM to control it (which is now working well).

If the NEO proves to be accurate I might consider jumping on board so I would not need my SRM to control the KICKR.

Noise in not an issue for me... as my Pain Cave is in the basement.


From my experience riding in Zwift (Neo Power displayed on Zwift, Stages Power displayed on Garmin): Neo reads about 20W higher than my stages - consistently.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [BergHügi] [ In reply to ]
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BergHügi wrote:

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What I notice on my unit: On low cadence, I can feel some sort of "vibration" on the pedals - the resistance is not entirely smooth then.
Do you get the same?
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [julesg88] [ In reply to ]
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julesg88 wrote:
Donzo98 wrote:
Are you using the Neo in ERG mode yet??

I am very interested to see if the power numbers are accurate as compared to an external power meter.

I have a KICKR and use my SRM to control it (which is now working well).

If the NEO proves to be accurate I might consider jumping on board so I would not need my SRM to control the KICKR.

Noise in not an issue for me... as my Pain Cave is in the basement.



From my experience riding in Zwift (Neo Power displayed on Zwift, Stages Power displayed on Garmin): Neo reads about 20W higher than my stages - consistently.

OH man... here we go again :)
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [julesg88] [ In reply to ]
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julesg88 wrote:
Hi guys,

I guess some of you are waiting for or thinking about buying the new Tacx Neo. Luckily for me, I managed to snap up one a week ago.

Since it seems hard to get first hand experience about the trainer: Feel free to ask me anything about it!

Havey you tried the Tacx software? I know you have used Zwift, but are you going to try to interface with Perfpro or Trainerroad?
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [julesg88] [ In reply to ]
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Makes sense that would be the case.

How low of cadence?
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [zachboring] [ In reply to ]
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I'll try TrainerRoad this weekend, but didn't use it so far since I heard about the software issues.

@Zach: Regarding cadence: Around 50-60 rpm
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [julesg88] [ In reply to ]
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Okay. Not too horrible, but not great. Was hoping that was more towards the 40-50 range.

Since the magnetic field isn't 100% uniform, you are feeling small little jumps as you cycle. More magnets would solve this, but there a restrictions based off dimensional constraints. Or there could be a heavy flywheel to help "carry" the motion during these low cadence sections to avoid this issue. Either way, it's hardware based.

I'm sure this issue has been seen ok other magnetic resistance trainers as well
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [zachboring] [ In reply to ]
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zachboring wrote:
Okay. Not too horrible, but not great. Was hoping that was more towards the 40-50 range.

Since the magnetic field isn't 100% uniform, you are feeling small little jumps as you cycle. More magnets would solve this, but there a restrictions based off dimensional constraints. Or there could be a heavy flywheel to help "carry" the motion during these low cadence sections to avoid this issue. Either way, it's hardware based.

I'm sure this issue has been seen ok other magnetic resistance trainers as well

Holy shit... you sound smart :)

I know better though... you did sell me the S5 frame... :)
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [julesg88] [ In reply to ]
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julesg88 wrote:
BergHügi wrote:

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What I notice on my unit: On low cadence, I can feel some sort of "vibration" on the pedals - the resistance is not entirely smooth then.
Do you get the same?

No, not really. There is some vibration coming from the flywheel area but nothing special at the pedals.

My wife and I do not train seriously at the moment thus we do not have lot experience with the Neo. At the end it is just a trainer which works!

Watts feel harder on the Neo than with our powermeters. Maybe I check the Tacx against SRM this weekend. Our Kickr is consistent with calibrated SRMs after warm up of 20 minutes and following spin down.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [Donzo98] [ In reply to ]
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Don't count on me being smart to often.

Still regret that too :( being put to good use though
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [zachboring] [ In reply to ]
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zachboring wrote:
...More magnets would solve this, but there a restrictions based off dimensional constraints. Or there could be a heavy flywheel to help "carry" the motion during these low cadence sections to avoid this issue.

Or they could use sine PWM control of their motor instead of trapezoidal. This way it will not feel as stepper motor at low RPM.

http://veloreality.com
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [kostya416] [ In reply to ]
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True.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [kostya416] [ In reply to ]
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kostya416 wrote:
zachboring wrote:
...More magnets would solve this, but there a restrictions based off dimensional constraints. Or there could be a heavy flywheel to help "carry" the motion during these low cadence sections to avoid this issue.


Or they could use sine PWM control of their motor instead of trapezoidal. This way it will not feel as stepper motor at low RPM.

This could be changed by software modification, right?
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [julesg88] [ In reply to ]
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julesg88 wrote:
...This could be changed by software modification, right?...

Not software, but firmware update. That is if they're lucky of course. There quite a few factors involved and the stars should line up properly ;)

http://veloreality.com
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [BergHügi] [ In reply to ]
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Hi,

For me road-feel is everything and on 27th place noise, software not important at all as long you can adjust resistance.

If you have time please elaborate about Kickr having better road-feel than Neo. Ramp-up time for Kickr I see as none-issue, mostly due to I rarely do that kind of training and the "problem" is easily solved by shifting to front big-ring.


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Feel:
Proprietary Trainer = SRM Trainer = Kickr > Neo
Nothing beats a high inertia flywheel

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BR David

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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [TriDave79] [ In reply to ]
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What happened to all the people who were updating where these neo's are on a boat? I got an email saying that ship is delayed until late November. :(
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [TriDave79] [ In reply to ]
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TriDave79 wrote:
Hi,

For me road-feel is everything and on 27th place noise, software not important at all as long you can adjust resistance.

If you have time please elaborate about Kickr having better road-feel than Neo. Ramp-up time for Kickr I see as none-issue, mostly due to I rarely do that kind of training and the "problem" is easily solved by shifting to front big-ring.


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Feel:
Proprietary Trainer = SRM Trainer = Kickr > Neo
Nothing beats a high inertia flywheel

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BR David

If road feel is the most important feature you might want to check out the Lynx: https://veloreality.com/products/lynx-trainer/

Disclaimer, I've never ridden one and it's expensive.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [Donzo98] [ In reply to ]
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Donzo98 wrote:
julesg88 wrote:
Donzo98 wrote:
Are you using the Neo in ERG mode yet??

I am very interested to see if the power numbers are accurate as compared to an external power meter.

I have a KICKR and use my SRM to control it (which is now working well).

If the NEO proves to be accurate I might consider jumping on board so I would not need my SRM to control the KICKR.

Noise in not an issue for me... as my Pain Cave is in the basement.



From my experience riding in Zwift (Neo Power displayed on Zwift, Stages Power displayed on Garmin): Neo reads about 20W higher than my stages - consistently.


OH man... here we go again :)

but i thought total power and estimated power were the same thing
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [racehd] [ In reply to ]
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racehd wrote:
Donzo98 wrote:
julesg88 wrote:
Donzo98 wrote:
Are you using the Neo in ERG mode yet??

I am very interested to see if the power numbers are accurate as compared to an external power meter.

I have a KICKR and use my SRM to control it (which is now working well).

If the NEO proves to be accurate I might consider jumping on board so I would not need my SRM to control the KICKR.

Noise in not an issue for me... as my Pain Cave is in the basement.



From my experience riding in Zwift (Neo Power displayed on Zwift, Stages Power displayed on Garmin): Neo reads about 20W higher than my stages - consistently.


OH man... here we go again :)


but i thought total power and estimated power were the same thing

He is referring to the issues with the Kickr reading high. The Neo was supposed to be the ultimate of trainers, not requiring calibration, no temperature drift, so if this is true, then the Neo will also require a regular PM for controlling the load if you want an accurate and consistent workout .... just like the Kickr.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [mcmetal] [ In reply to ]
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mcmetal wrote:
racehd wrote:
but i thought total power and estimated power were the same thing


He is referring to the issues with the Kickr reading high. The Neo was supposed to be the ultimate of trainers, not requiring calibration, no temperature drift, so if this is true, then the Neo will also require a regular PM for controlling the load if you want an accurate and consistent workout .... just like the Kickr.

Or perhaps he knew plenty well about the issues reported against he KICKR but has the common sense to realize that it doesn't matter what effing trainer you have, if you are doing a single side estimation of total power with a possible imbalance then your trainer power is always going to be "off" relative.

But no, clearly if your power meter doesn't match your trainer it's definitely the trainers fault and not one of the other 20 possibilities.

F--k me, I quit these threads.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [tgarson] [ In reply to ]
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tgarson wrote:
mcmetal wrote:
racehd wrote:
but i thought total power and estimated power were the same thing


He is referring to the issues with the Kickr reading high. The Neo was supposed to be the ultimate of trainers, not requiring calibration, no temperature drift, so if this is true, then the Neo will also require a regular PM for controlling the load if you want an accurate and consistent workout .... just like the Kickr.


Or perhaps he knew plenty well about the issues reported against he KICKR but has the common sense to realize that it doesn't matter what effing trainer you have, if you are doing a single side estimation of total power with a possible imbalance then your trainer power is always going to be "off" relative.

But no, clearly if your power meter doesn't match your trainer it's definitely the trainers fault and not one of the other 20 possibilities.

F--k me, I quit these threads.


Your missing the history on this. Donzo in particular went through a lot to get things working correctly on his Kickr and finally has things working using his SRM to control the power. Basically it was pages and pages of folks with issues and solutions, hence the "here we go again" response he gave when someone mentioned the power was off.

See this thread:
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...t_reply;so=ASC;mh=25;

As to if his "stages" was correct, who knows. All I can say is I have 3 Quarqs, 3 Computrainers and a Velotron and they all match up and are consistent. So no it's not too much to expect for Quarqs and SRMs to be accurate and consistent.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [mcmetal] [ In reply to ]
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mcmetal wrote:
racehd wrote:
Donzo98 wrote:
julesg88 wrote:
Donzo98 wrote:
Are you using the Neo in ERG mode yet??

I am very interested to see if the power numbers are accurate as compared to an external power meter.

I have a KICKR and use my SRM to control it (which is now working well).

If the NEO proves to be accurate I might consider jumping on board so I would not need my SRM to control the KICKR.

Noise in not an issue for me... as my Pain Cave is in the basement.



From my experience riding in Zwift (Neo Power displayed on Zwift, Stages Power displayed on Garmin): Neo reads about 20W higher than my stages - consistently.


OH man... here we go again :)


but i thought total power and estimated power were the same thing


He is referring to the issues with the Kickr reading high. The Neo was supposed to be the ultimate of trainers, not requiring calibration, no temperature drift, so if this is true, then the Neo will also require a regular PM for controlling the load if you want an accurate and consistent workout .... just like the Kickr.


EXACTLY! If this is actually the case... other than less noise, the NEO is no better than the KICKR.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [Donzo98] [ In reply to ]
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My Powertap wheel always reads 5 to 10 watts higher than my Quarq. So I think you are asking too much from the Neo. Besides, the last powermeter I would base accuracy off of would be a Stages powermeter.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [tgarson] [ In reply to ]
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tgarson wrote:
TriDave79 wrote:
Hi,

For me road-feel is everything and on 27th place noise, software not important at all as long you can adjust resistance.

If you have time please elaborate about Kickr having better road-feel than Neo. Ramp-up time for Kickr I see as none-issue, mostly due to I rarely do that kind of training and the "problem" is easily solved by shifting to front big-ring.


>>
Feel:
Proprietary Trainer = SRM Trainer = Kickr > Neo
Nothing beats a high inertia flywheel

>>

BR David


If road feel is the most important feature you might want to check out the Lynx: https://veloreality.com/products/lynx-trainer/

Disclaimer, I've never ridden one and it's expensive.

Here is new model (Lynx II) for 2015: https://flic.kr/s/aHskiRkMAP

http://veloreality.com
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [tgarson] [ In reply to ]
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tgarson wrote:
But no, clearly if your power meter doesn't match your trainer it's definitely the trainers fault and not one of the other 20 possibilities.

#truth. People have made up more bs about the Kickr versus the Neo without trying either one (although that pales in comparison to the amount of annoying comments about power in general). Who even knows how many people have issues with power on the kickr, or even whether bike powermeters are accurate and precise, and every single thing that measures something else needs calibration all the time, every time...

...so many problems with the interpretation of gossip on here.

Hey BergHurl, you actually made me feel like the Neo is a frugal man's great deal! It's not even half the price of an SRM trainer or a proprietary trainer. I thought I was overspending but now I can safely say I saved thousands USD$.

Thanks!
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [tgarson] [ In reply to ]
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tgarson wrote:
mcmetal wrote:
racehd wrote:
but i thought total power and estimated power were the same thing


He is referring to the issues with the Kickr reading high. The Neo was supposed to be the ultimate of trainers, not requiring calibration, no temperature drift, so if this is true, then the Neo will also require a regular PM for controlling the load if you want an accurate and consistent workout .... just like the Kickr.

Or perhaps he knew plenty well about the issues reported against he KICKR but has the common sense to realize that it doesn't matter what effing trainer you have, if you are doing a single side estimation of total power with a possible imbalance then your trainer power is always going to be "off" relative.

But no, clearly if your power meter doesn't match your trainer it's definitely the trainers fault and not one of the other 20 possibilities.

F--k me, I quit these threads.

Don't discount those of us who KNOW our KICKRS are off...

It might be one of 20 possibilities... but it's not. It's the KICKR.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [TriDave79] [ In reply to ]
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TriDave79 wrote:
Hi,

For me road-feel is everything and on 27th place noise, software not important at all as long you can adjust resistance.

If you have time please elaborate about Kickr having better road-feel than Neo. Ramp-up time for Kickr I see as none-issue, mostly due to I rarely do that kind of training and the "problem" is easily solved by shifting to front big-ring.

Did 1h test with the Neo using Tacx app in ergo mode and a SRM on the bike.
Concerning "feel", simulation of inertia works resulting in a quite fluent pedalling, however there is some "vibration" in the drive train. The Kickr is more fluent, yes I would say the Kickr "feels" a little bit better.
Concerning power, the Neo gave somewhat lower Watts than SRM. At nominal 150W for the Neo the SRM gave around 155W. At 200W for the Neo the SRM measured 208W. If one accounts for drive train losses the Neo was spot on with SRM, in any case better than I expected. Also during this 1h test no hint for power drift. In this respect my Kickr is inferior.

By the way, I got the SRM trainer for 2000$ with a wireless SRM from ebay. Use the wireless SRM now on my road bike and bought a wired SRM for the trainer from ebay for 400$. And the "proprietary" trainer was cheap not accounting for the hours to design and construct it.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [BergHügi] [ In reply to ]
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Interesting info....

Were your comparisons based on 2 intervals at 150 and 200?

If so... how long were the intervals? You compared avg power for both I assume?
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [Donzo98] [ In reply to ]
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Donzo98 wrote:
Interesting info....

Were your comparisons based on 2 intervals at 150 and 200?

If so... how long were the intervals? You compared avg power for both I assume?

I apologize that fast first comparison was based just on "looking" at the SRM PowerControl and a Osynce Navi2Coach recording the ANT+ data from the Neo. Here now the mean values for the intervalls evaluating the fit files with GoldenCheetah. The NEO was controlled by the Tacx App in ergo mode via BT and an IPad:

Interval 1: ~10min; NEO: 150W 93rpm; SRM: 159W 93rpm
Interval 2: ~5min; NEO: 175W 93rpm; SRM: 182W 93rpm
Interval 3: ~5min; NEO: 175W 84rpm; SRM: 180W 85rpm
Interval 4: ~5min; NEO; 200W 84rpm; SRM: 204W 85rpm
Interval 5: ~5min; NEO: 200W 97rpm; SRM: 207W 97rpm
Interval 6: ~5min; NEO: 174W 94rpm; SRM: 183W 94rpm
Interval 7: ~5min; NEO; 175W 77rpm; SRM: 204W 85rpm
Interval 8: ~5min; NEO: 150W 83rpm; SRM: 157W 83rpm
Interval 9: ~5min; NEO: 150W 95rpm; SRM: 156W 85rpm

But bear in mind, this was just a simple fast an dirty test, nothing more! For example average power values were obtained just be marking regions on both fit file data in GoldenCheetah thus they can not match perfectly.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [BergHügi] [ In reply to ]
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Made a mistake:

Interval 7: ~5min; NEO; 175W 77rpm; SRM: 179W 85rpm
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [BergHügi] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for sharing

IMO - If my Kickr had been as close in relation with my power meter as your SRM and Neo I probably would have been content with using the Kickr's power. My Kickr is not quite as bad as Donzo's, but still over 15 watts off and sometimes worse. Plus there is a bit of a drift. Now that I have the Kickr being controlled by a Quarq ELSA I am pretty content.

I could probably mentally deal with about > 5 watts difference. Even now with the Quarq in control there is about that much still because the Kickr has a hard time adjusting resistance based on the continual variability of the Quarq. If I were like a machine with my pace that wouldn't happen :-)
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [Felt_Rider] [ In reply to ]
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Maybe I am just lucky, but my Kickr (got one of the first in Europe I guess) after a warm-up of 20 minutes is also quite consistent with our SRMs. I have no significant drift after 20 min war-up. In principle I like the Kickr, but we cannot use it in our flat, only in my office at the university.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [BergHügi] [ In reply to ]
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BergHügi wrote:
Maybe I am just lucky, but my Kickr (got one of the first in Europe I guess) after a warm-up of 20 minutes is also quite consistent with our SRMs. I have no significant drift after 20 min war-up. In principle I like the Kickr, but we cannot use it in our flat, only in my office at the university.

That must be the key. It seems like most that report good comparison between the Kickr and power meter were some of the first released units. Something must have happened a bit later in production. Whatever they were doing at first they should try to figure out and go back to that in production. I bought mine in August 2014 and noticed something was amiss after my CTL started rising rather fast in just a couple of weeks and L5 intervals felt more like L3 (because they were). :-)
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Thanks for sharing

IMO - If my Kickr had been as close in relation with my power meter as your SRM and Neo I probably would have been content with using the Kickr's power. My Kickr is not quite as bad as Donzo's, but still over 15 watts off and sometimes worse. Plus there is a bit of a drift. Now that I have the Kickr being controlled by a Quarq ELSA I am pretty content.

I could probably mentally deal with about > 5 watts difference. Even now with the Quarq in control there is about that much still because the Kickr has a hard time adjusting resistance based on the continual variability of the Quarq. If I were like a machine with my pace that wouldn't happen :-)

Are your longer intervals off by 5 watts average power??

My TARGET POWER and SRM POWER are generally the same with my intervals 1 minute and over.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [Donzo98] [ In reply to ]
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Donzo98 wrote:

Are your longer intervals off by 5 watts average power??

My TARGET POWER and SRM POWER are generally the same with my intervals 1 minute and over.

My last post wasn't clear and you have a good question.
My average power for intervals are typically within a watt or match exactly from the interval target in TR or PerfPro.

What I really intended was the following comparison. I thought I had a screenshot available and it would tell the story.
Using WKO 3.0 Multi File Range Analysis comparing workout sessions using Quarq / Kickr / PP or TR
Quarq recorded with Garmin Edge - the wattage line is very variable bouncing from 5+/- watts above or below the target.
Quarq recorded with TR or PP - the wattage line is somewhat smoothed. This line is just about down the middle of the Quarq / Edge recording.

However both end up showing almost the exact same interval AP and total workout AP.

The only time my legs can tell the difference is when the Kickr is trying to adjust quickly to an intensity change. It is at random times it may spike 20 to 30 watts higher than the target for a second or two before it settles into the interval target (those are discomforting). My remedy for those spikes has been to go back and add in a bit of a ramp between interval intensity changes in the workout. If the Kickr has a little more time to adjust with a ramp I've noticed a sharp reduction in those spikes. Otherwise, having the Kickr controlled by the power meter has worked out well.
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Felt_Rider wrote:
Donzo98 wrote:


Are your longer intervals off by 5 watts average power??

My TARGET POWER and SRM POWER are generally the same with my intervals 1 minute and over.


My last post wasn't clear and you have a good question.
My average power for intervals are typically within a watt or match exactly from the interval target in TR or PerfPro.

What I really intended was the following comparison. I thought I had a screenshot available and it would tell the story.
Using WKO 3.0 Multi File Range Analysis comparing workout sessions using Quarq / Kickr / PP or TR
Quarq recorded with Garmin Edge - the wattage line is very variable bouncing from 5+/- watts above or below the target.
Quarq recorded with TR or PP - the wattage line is somewhat smoothed. This line is just about down the middle of the Quarq / Edge recording.

However both end up showing almost the exact same interval AP and total workout AP.

The only time my legs can tell the difference is when the Kickr is trying to adjust quickly to an intensity change. It is at random times it may spike 20 to 30 watts higher than the target for a second or two before it settles into the interval target (those are discomforting). My remedy for those spikes has been to go back and add in a bit of a ramp between interval intensity changes in the workout. If the Kickr has a little more time to adjust with a ramp I've noticed a sharp reduction in those spikes. Otherwise, having the Kickr controlled by the power meter has worked out well.

That is exactly my experience as well... but I didn't bother to build in a ramp. As long as my AVG POWER is what it should be I don't stress about it any more.

I accept the fact that the shorter intervals won't be exactly right.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [nightfend] [ In reply to ]
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nightfend wrote:
My Powertap wheel always reads 5 to 10 watts higher than my Quarq. So I think you are asking too much from the Neo. Besides, the last powermeter I would base accuracy off of would be a Stages powermeter.

+1 to all that. Stages...lol...
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [BergHügi] [ In reply to ]
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BergHügi wrote:
By the way, I got the SRM trainer for 2000$ with a wireless SRM from ebay. Use the wireless SRM now on my road bike and bought a wired SRM for the trainer from ebay for 400$. And the "proprietary" trainer was cheap not accounting for the hours to design and construct it.

That is the deal of the century on the SRM. I've never even seen one or known anyone IRL who owns one. Anyways, thanks for updating the info!
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [julesg88] [ In reply to ]
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@julesg88, can you share the dimensions of the Neo when folded out? Also, if not too much trouble, the length to the front of your front tire (and your bike size)? Thanks.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [Sam Apoc] [ In reply to ]
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Sam Apoc wrote:
BergHügi wrote:
By the way, I got the SRM trainer for 2000$ with a wireless SRM from ebay. Use the wireless SRM now on my road bike and bought a wired SRM for the trainer from ebay for 400$. And the "proprietary" trainer was cheap not accounting for the hours to design and construct it.


That is the deal of the century on the SRM. I've never even seen one or known anyone IRL who owns one. Anyways, thanks for updating the info!

Yup... agree. That trainer has to be quite expensive.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [Donzo98] [ In reply to ]
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Looks like the trainer itself goes for 3,500 EUR, then you have to add your own SRM to the mix. So probably about 6,000 EUR for the complete system.


Would love to give one a ride to see what that kind of cash really gets you versus the more mass produced options. Same goes for a Velotron.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [tgarson] [ In reply to ]
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tgarson wrote:
Looks like the trainer itself goes for 3,500 EUR, then you have to add your own SRM to the mix. So probably about 6,000 EUR for the complete system.


Would love to give one a ride to see what that kind of cash really gets you versus the more mass produced options. Same goes for a Velotron.


I would like to try a Velotron too... I would be more enthusiastic if it was ANT/ BT compatible... and I could use Perf Pro control it.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [bmcguy] [ In reply to ]
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bmcguy wrote:
@julesg88, can you share the dimensions of the Neo when folded out? Also, if not too much trouble, the length to the front of your front tire (and your bike size)? Thanks.

Also, your social security number and inseam length.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [Sam Apoc] [ In reply to ]
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Sam Apoc wrote:
bmcguy wrote:
@julesg88, can you share the dimensions of the Neo when folded out? Also, if not too much trouble, the length to the front of your front tire (and your bike size)? Thanks.


Also, your social security number and inseam length.


... and a naked pic of your wife/girlfriend :)
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [Donzo98] [ In reply to ]
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Donzo98 wrote:
Sam Apoc wrote:
bmcguy wrote:
@julesg88, can you share the dimensions of the Neo when folded out? Also, if not too much trouble, the length to the front of your front tire (and your bike size)? Thanks.


Also, your social security number and inseam length.


... and a naked pic of your wife/girlfriend :)

Well he did say "anything".. :D
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [Sam Apoc] [ In reply to ]
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Has anybody put a 51cm Cervelo p5 in one of these yet? The printed out template on tacxs site make it look like it isn't going to fit or would clear the stays by less than a mm which I'm not going to live with
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [julesg88] [ In reply to ]
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Any further updates on accuracy??

What software are you using to control it??
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [Donzo98] [ In reply to ]
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from my limited (aka n=5) usage neo vs quarq i see around 5% difference consistently

please note that i use q-rings; which wd affect quarq reading but not tacx
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [R2] [ In reply to ]
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When and where did you get your NEO?
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [Donzo98] [ In reply to ]
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got my unit (no 618) two weeks ago - got it from a german online store
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [R2] [ In reply to ]
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whereas erg mode is oki must say that the slope/ course mode is much more difficult than reality on the road
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [R2] [ In reply to ]
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R2 wrote:
from my limited (aka n=5) usage neo vs quarq i see around 5% difference consistently

please note that i use q-rings; which wd affect quarq reading but not tacx

I'm guessing the Quarq is 5% higher than the neo?

That could very well be 100% accurate as the Quarq is measuring at the chainrings and the Neo at the hub. I would expect at least a 3% difference and up to 5% is reasonable for drivetrain loss.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [julesg88] [ In reply to ]
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Received an email from Clever Training stating my Neo Smart has shipped. Should have it Thursday.

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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [GMAN19030] [ In reply to ]
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GMAN19030 wrote:
Received an email from Clever Training stating my Neo Smart has shipped. Should have it Thursday.

Very much looking forward to hearing your review...
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [Donzo98] [ In reply to ]
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Donzo98 wrote:
GMAN19030 wrote:
Received an email from Clever Training stating my Neo Smart has shipped. Should have it Thursday.


Very much looking forward to hearing your review...


I actually got it today. Went to set it up and found out I needed a Campy lockring tool to put on the f'n Shimano cassette because the Neo uses an Edco Campy hub. Damn Europeans!!! So make sure you got that tool. $10 for the Park Tool BBT-5/FR-11 tool. Thankfully my LBS had one (and just one) in stock.

EDIT: I see the Campy tool thing was mentioned in an early post on this thread. Obviously, I missed it. :-)
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i think tacx will sorely regret going with edco - already freehub problems being reported and we are only in what 3rd month of usage at the most!
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R2 wrote:
i think tacx will sorely regret going with edco - already freehub problems being reported and we are only in what 3rd month of usage at the most!

What problems?
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [Donzo98] [ In reply to ]
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Have a look at DCR blog post on NEO. Comment section is very good as think its the only place actually Tacx support replies. So problems with hub were:
1. seems internally it is not lubed properly so it is advised to lube by the user
2. that creats noise and in some cases hub seized and stopped freewheeling
3. there are problems with some campy casette alignment for 11t ring
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [R2] [ In reply to ]
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Hi, Im a NEO owner and the guy that was mentioning the 11T cog alignment...

Its a great trainer so far, I advise lubing the plastic sleeve... takes all of 1 minute to do it..

Campy 11s.. err well..... I had nothing but trouble.. not only with the 11T cog (problem is EDCO has the splines for the 2 small splines setup that you need to turn the cog back out of shifting ramp... it still shifted) if you have a 12T cog though, it will work..

The bigger problem I encountered was the fact that because Campy 11s rear derailleurs have an inherent "twist" to them.. by this I mean if you look at a campy rd from the back of the bike, the top pulley is in perfect alignment with the cog, but when you look at the bottom pulley, it is not in vertical alignment .. so if you are on the very top cog there is not enough clearance on the top end to clear the flywheel of the trainer, and the bottom back plate of the RD is resting against the bottom frame of the neo where it bulges out... I tired 3 different bikes on it and all do the same thing... I switched back to Campy 10s with a 12-26 block (I am doing tacx RLV and VR climbs at real gradient and need the granny gear) If you don't run the top cog with Campy 11s, you'll be fine...

The other thing I have noticed is going uphill in particular the gradient feels harder than my computrainer...
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [ParisCarbon] [ In reply to ]
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yeah i found that i had to reduce my weight to make it behave closer to the road feel
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [R2] [ In reply to ]
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How much did you reduce your weight?

I also notice with it on Zwift Watopia when you get into the rollers on the back of the course there is a steep downhill after an uphill.. it doesnt seem to react smooth to rather abrupt terrain change.. overall though I really like it...
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [ParisCarbon] [ In reply to ]
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well for tacx VIDEO i had reduced it by 7kg - still looking for the optimal one
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [julesg88] [ In reply to ]
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Does your unit hum when plugged in but not in use? I just got my Neo and was a bit surprised by the soft but noticeable hum.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [DCK27] [ In reply to ]
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I suspect the hum is a PC style cooling fan inside the housing that is used to vent warm air away from the PCB. Any ideas what that is in the upper right corner atop the black case (click here for a bigger image)?



The lack of an on/off switch is very surprising as up until the Neo, Tacx had always had a switch to power off the motorbrake for the powered trainers. In this case, Tacx recommends unplugging the trainer when not in use but I would imagine a better/preferable option would be to plug the Neo into a surge protector/power strip, and then turn off the power switch when finished.

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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [GMAN19030] [ In reply to ]
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hi
should the neo take any shimano 10 speed

i got a shimano ultegra and cannot get it on - i am a bike dummy so i could be doing something wrong ?

how ridiculous you have to fit your own, many thanks

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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [ms6073] [ In reply to ]
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Fuse or thermal cutoff? Probably the former since it's not nestled up against something that could overheat.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [UKINNY] [ In reply to ]
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Take a look at Tacx's cassette compatibility chart: http://www.tacx.com/...ners/neo-smart#tab_4

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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [UKINNY] [ In reply to ]
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just discovered that the trainer is not compatible with my bike (FELT DA)

did not see anything on the site i bought it from

waited 6 weeks and now sending it back - bollox
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [ms6073] [ In reply to ]
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I expect you will find they are a couple of big resistors upper right. Good place for hot items.
There are two of those fans, one front which is not shown in the picture, and the one in the back. However I think they are not the cause of the humming. You can look through the grill and see if they are moving. I remember correctly the humming noise was still present when they were static.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [UKINNY] [ In reply to ]
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UKINNY wrote:
just discovered that the trainer is not compatible with my bike (FELT DA)

did not see anything on the site i bought it from

waited 6 weeks and now sending it back - bollox
Well I won't bother with the EDCO tips then. I had the same problem with bike fit.
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UKINNY wrote:
just discovered that the trainer is not compatible with my bike (FELT DA)

did not see anything on the site i bought it from

waited 6 weeks and now sending it back - bollox

What specifically about your bike is not compatible?
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [tgarson] [ In reply to ]
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Shape of the back fork , not wide enough

Their site does refer to it and those bikes with integrated brakes

They give you a laughable cut out shape to test it

Guess i should have looked at the Tacx site not just clever training who to be fair are paying shipping back , they responded within 30 mins
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [UKINNY] [ In reply to ]
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For Neo owners who do not have an iOS device, Tacx has published a new version of the Tacx Utility for Android devices.

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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [julesg88] [ In reply to ]
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Will the Tacx NEO fit a 2012 Cervelo P-3? I'm too lazy to cut out the template on their website.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [Nolegs] [ In reply to ]
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sorry if this was already posted

this is review from Titanium Geek.

his preview of Neo
http://www.titaniumgeek.com/...ws/tacx-neo-preview/

his comparison with Kickr. there is a nice video comparing the noise level and the Neo lateral movement
http://www.titaniumgeek.com/...-neo-vs-wahoo-kickr/

his long term review
http://www.titaniumgeek.com/...-term-review-update/
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [Nolegs] [ In reply to ]
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all i can tell u it fits my p5 size 54 but with very little space to spare
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DCR says it fits his Cervelo. I think he said it was a P3C. I wouldn't know what year it is, but must be close to 2012. He commented somewhere on his Neo page.
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Thank you sir.
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Anyone have Neo - TrainerRoad stories (or screenshots) to share. It sounds like the original firmware & TrainerRoad configuration resulted in a very slow ramp-up? Anyone have more recent info than this?

. http://forum.tacx.com/...php?f=60&t=25182
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R2 wrote:
all i can tell u it fits my p5 size 54 but with very little space to spare

what year p5? and it works fine?
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [ddave] [ In reply to ]
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In the cassette installation instructions for the Neo is talks about 9/10 speed Shimano and "pockets" - if ther is one use a 1m spacer and the EDCO 2mm spacer.

Whats a pocket in this context?

FYI The cassette now takes a Shimano tool. I'd even gone and bought a Campag one.
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [julesg88] [ In reply to ]
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I recently purchased a Tacx Neo and am pleased with it. I ordered the optional TTS4 advanced software package with the ant+ antenna for my PC and installed the software, but when it scans for my Neo devices, it doesn't find them so I have no way of pairing them to the software on the PC. I know the Neo is sending a signal because my Garmin Fenix 3 watch picks it up. What do I need to try to get the signal to be received by the PC?
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [Spokesman] [ In reply to ]
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Which Ant+ stick are you using? Also, as DCR notes, it takes a few tries to get the brake paired. Same problem with the Bushido 1980.

If you have gotten the TTS4 software working, what are your impressions?

Thanks,
Robert

"How wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single moment before starting to improve the world." ~Anne Frank
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [Spokesman] [ In reply to ]
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when it scans for my Neo devices, it doesn't find them
Typically the Ant+ antenna needs to be close to the device for the initial connection. I use a USB extension cord so that the antenna is within 12" of our Bushido motorbrake. Maybe way off base, but maybe your Fenix 3 is detecting the Neo via Bluetooth not Ant.

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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [julesg88] [ In reply to ]
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Are you still fielding questions about the tax neo?

If so, can you tell me if I can seamlessly run Sufferfest Rubber Glove/20 Min FTP test through TrainerRoad on the Tacx Neo? I only see two potential setting through the Ant stick: "ERG" and "Resistance". (I read somewhere the Kickr auto switches to "Standard" mode. What doe the neo do?

Should I set it to resistance? I tried this but the resistance didn't work.... I was spinning in my biggest gear.......

Please help.THX
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Re: Tacx Neo - Ask me anything [suewiedorn] [ In reply to ]
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Switching to "resistance" mode automatically in the middle of a workout is a Trainerroad feature, not a Neo feature. So what you need to know is whether or not the "rubber glove" workout on Trainerroad switches modes automatically. I don't know the answer, but I know the Trainerroad 20' FTP test does. So you just start the workout in erg mode, and it will automatically switche to resistance more for the 5' and 20' intervals (and then back to erg).
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Anyone else find slight bits of rust on the metal disc? A coat of lube help?
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try perf pro - u can switch to "slope mode"
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Has anyone tried the 2016 version of the Neo with a Felt DA frame? Apparently Tacx made it a bit wider to accommodate more frames but wondering about this problem since the old version didn't go together with the DA rear fork.
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hutchy_belfast wrote:
Has anybody put a 51cm Cervelo p5 in one of these yet? The printed out template on tacxs site make it look like it isn't going to fit or would clear the stays by less than a mm which I'm not going to live with

Old thread, I know, but yes a 51cm P5 fits the old Neo case just fine, so the new one (W2017) obviously fits too.

DM
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