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Lets talk Time Machine!!

Last season I bought and built up my TMO1 with Ultegra. I race with Bontrager Aeolus 9's. Its super clean bike although I didnt care for the aerobar setup. I set the bike fit up from my other bikes coordinates so it wasnt a fit issue. I just didnt like the look of the front end. I wanted it to be clean and it was kinda clunky looking. So after the two final races in the season, 70.3's in Weisbaden and Ireland, I changed from the stock Profile Design cockpit to a 3T Aura Pro setup. The front end on the TM01 has a ton of different combinations with the stem. My fit coordinates dicated that the stem needed to be in one of the highest sitting positions and along with the aerobars set up it added to the clunkiness I didnt like. The goal was to drop the front end and allow it to go along with the lines of the rest of the frame without messing with my fit. I knew I could get the bars down at about frame level Id just have to get the risers for the arm pads and the right extensions. I figured it all out and the fit is within a few miilimeters of where I was. The stem made it so easy! Those guys were thinking!!! While I was at it, I swopped out for some white cable housing too. Sure the only place you see it is at the front as it goes into the steertube cap/ cable organizer, and at the rear of the bike, but along with the white on the frame seat and on the 3T bar, its pretty much like money in the bank!


Clunky version


New cockpit

Now, does anyone have any questions about this bike?

I have a few issues with the brakes and really they are the only thing I have come across with it.

I am also a bike mechanic. I found that the only thing on the bike that will give you fuss while building it is the brakes. The rest is pretty straight forward. Sure the internal cables can be fussy but it wasnt bad. Whats bad about the brakes involves the cables. As with any V-brake they use a brake noodle, a TINY one. I personally think the brakes feel like garbage because of the really tight bend in the noodle. I replaced my noodles with the noodles that are flexible, I cut it to length and it changed the entire way the brakes feel. Also, when cutting the housing, you have to cut it so that the noodle rests on it inside the frame, so short that the housing disappears inside of the frame. Its not so bad on the back but in the front fork, lets just say its a pain in the butt to get the cable out whe the housing is inside the fork. The hole is very small. Another thing that takes a bit of time is setting the brakes up for your rim width. Its not done with a spring tension adjustment at all. it differs from normal Vbrakes because normal v brakes open. Normally, once you use the correct pad spacers you just adjust it so you get the desired amount of play; close or not as close, depending on how you want your brake lever positioned on lock. With the BMC brakes, there are stops that do not allow the brake arms to open past a specific point. NOTE these brakes play an aerodynamic role along with the frame so they have to line up with the lines of it. In limiting the distance of which the arms can open, you limit how space you can have once the pads and the pads spacers are on. With this bike, you use extra spacers and combinations of them to dictate the distance between rim and pad. That dictates how far your brake levers go in. But really. This is a bike of extreme precision, once its set up, you dont have to change it much if any. Taking the time to set up the brakes is something we all must do, it just takes a bit more time on this bike. Now that the brakes are set up, and feel better than they did with the stock brake noodle, we can talk about the feel of their engagement. On a normal V-brake, like on a mountain bike, we use spring tension to not only adjust how much force we have to use to close the brake but also to balance out each arm as to make the pads hit the braking surface simolatinioulsy. This is the BIGGEST gripe I have about my Time Machine's brakes!!!! There is no way to adjust the balance of the arms. The frame is narrow so there is only so much space for a cable to bend basically 90 degrees as they have to with a v-brake. I say that because the tight internal spacing puts the housing to one side of the frame, the cable bends through the noodle, and gets hooked to the brake arm. Its a small space for all of that to be going on in and the tightness puts a limit on the housing's movement. THAT limits one of the brake arm's movement. The small amount of extra pressure on the cable housing could be overpowered by either increasing the opposing arm's spring tension or by decreasing the tension in the arm the cable is hooked to. The BMC does not have that option though!!! On both brakes, one of the pads hits the rim before the other. When your used to brake perfection things like that might bother you for a bit as it did me. Im over it as in im used to it so I dont cry when it happens on a ride but I still want to find a solution!

The other issue with the brake is a small one. I fixed it on my bike but it may be an issue on other bikes depending on the rim and tire width differences. As most road brakes have a a release to use when taking the wheel off the TM does not. you cant even open the v-brake due to reasons I mentioned above. The front wheel, on mine, isnt an issue at all but the rear wheel is. I cut a small portion of housing out of the way on the tiny length of the cable that is visible between the aerobar and the frame and put a cable adjuster on. No, when I get a flat I can just follow the steps in changing it without having to change when I inflate the tire. Not sure if every raody does this but, I inflate the tire while off the bike, then put it back on. I wouldnt have been able to do that without that little barrel adjuster on the cable. Sure I have to remember to loosen the cable before I take the wheel off or put it back on but thats better than changing up a process I have done for years, agree? with the adjuster, I think there is enough range to even put other, thinner or wider, wheels on it. But, the front is another issue. My rims are very close to the same width for both the Bontrager and the Mavics that came on it. So, theres that. Now there is this. IF you plan to train on one set of wheels and then change it up on race day to a race wheel, be ready to mess around with the pad spacers. Hopefully you dont have to mess with anything to do with cables, especially the front one. The front brake has a plastic cover that hides the noodle/cable connection area. The hole on the brake arm is TINY. Its the width of a cable. You HAVE to cut the remainder of the calbe off once its tightened. Anything that hangs out of the arm will hit the plastic cover and it would just make the cover stick out off the line of the fork. Kinda shitty! I suppose you could drill a tiny hole on the plastic piece so that you could have about 5-10mm of cable remaining once it exits the arm, but hopefully you never have to change that when it comes to wheels. Also, the tiny screw that tightens the cable to the arm is of the crushing type. Once tightened it just smooshes the cable to the point of no return. Meaning, even with the fastener completely loose, and even out of its hole, the cable with still take a hefty amount of pulling to get it out of the arm. The hole in the arm is so small that the expanded/crushed cable cant fit through it to well. If you have to adjust a cable, just make sure you have a new one on hand and at the ready.

Does anyone know if any of these issues have been fixed for 2013, prolly not but hey. anyone?

While asking questions, I thought of this. Are tri brake levers all the same in the way that they pull, distance in particular? Let me elaborate. I know on nice MNT bike brake levers, both cable and hyrdo, have adjustments for both engagement and lever position. For angle of attack and modulation. Im sure its just a matter of pivot point and leverage on the lever itself. I ask bc I would like my to tweek my levers. At full engagement they are farely close to the bar and Im not a fan of it. This is NOT a matter of pad distance either. I have no experience in tri/tt brake levers other than what I have and the few I have adjusted for others. None of them had any adjustments on the lever itself.

Lets see your Time Machines!
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [fabricatedyou] [ In reply to ]
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I am looking at a TM01 or TM02. The price difference for me is about $700NZD (US$630). It seems like the benefits of integration of the TM01's front end may not be benefits at all, and that it would be far better to save the difference and go for the TM02, possible running a fast bar and front brake which is much simpler to live with (TriRig Omega).

Would you agree with that?
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [fabricatedyou] [ In reply to ]
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Just finished building up a Di2 version and it now fits just right BUT brakes have been my issue as well.

I have Firecrest racing wheels and they are wide and I am training on Mavics. The problem is not being able to go wide enough as you can remove various brake stops it is finding that happy middle ground to being able to go narrow enough to fit the mavics in and get a good functioning brake. I have put in barrell adjusters and it isnt quite right yet. I am changing a part of the brake system that should do the trick.

I have had to cut an allen key down so as it can reach the drive side rear calliper which is tucked away nice and neatly behind the chainring which is a pain. Needless to say a quick change come race morning is not really on the cards.

In the process of contacting distributor to work out a solution as they sell the bike with fire crests on so I am assuming this issue would have well and truely raised its head before.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [fabricatedyou] [ In reply to ]
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I have Enve 6.7's on mine. I had to use older, worn down brake pads, but I don't have to release them with 22 or 23 mm tires. Maybe with 25's but I haven't tried it.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [fabricatedyou] [ In reply to ]
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I'm just finishing up my BMC Time Machine with Ultegra Di2, just waiting for the U Di2 tt shifters to arrive. I found that the brakes are very sensative to the length of the housing but if I get the housing the length just right, I have really good braking with equal pull to the rim and plenty of space. One of my favorite features is how clean the frame is to include internal storage of the battery. Looking forward to getting some miles on it.



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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [harts] [ In reply to ]
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What about shaving the brake pads down a little? Wouldn't that be just as simple? I have a tm01 but haven't had my race wheels on it yet.

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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [fabricatedyou] [ In reply to ]
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Sweet ride fabricatedyou! Great thread idea - arguably one of the most beautiful TT bikes available today. Simple, clean, sharp, industrial lines which aren't blemished by having the manufacturer's logo plastered 15 times on each side. As I'm on a TM02, can't comment on the TM01's front brake - which was one reason I went for the TM02 instead of the TM01, the other reason being the price differential.

Here's my virgin TM02 Ultegra Di2 which I've only just picked up this week:





Since someone's bound to ask this eventually: no, the Torhans VR bottle cage doesn't fit flush onto the frame - see below.



I'd actually like to get the bottle cage lower down, but the point where the E-tube wire for the front derailleur exits the frame prevents me from doing so. Anyone have any ideas or workarounds?
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [fabricatedyou] [ In reply to ]
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I like your color choice. I'll play ball. You should have gotten that Aura bar in red like my Brezza

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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [fabricatedyou] [ In reply to ]
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I'm also building a TM01 with Ultegra Di2, waiting for Dura-Ace Di2 9071 shifters and brake levers plus the five-port front junction to finish it up. No issues so far. Here's the current situation:


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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [mattharrop] [ In reply to ]
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mattharrop wrote:
I am looking at a TM01 or TM02. The price difference for me is about $700NZD (US$630). It seems like the benefits of integration of the TM01's front end may not be benefits at all, and that it would be far better to save the difference and go for the TM02, possible running a fast bar and front brake which is much simpler to live with (TriRig Omega).

Would you agree with that?

Aside from really liking the color silver, I'd still get a TM01if I had to buy another one. This time I would get hop on the 2013 model with the white/silverish stripe! I might custom paint it before the season anyway. Oh, and nothing over the too. I like the bike bc its simple looking, I would never ruin that! :)

Besides the fronts inability to adapt to some wheels, they still work as stoppers, I'm just trying to let ppl know the details and hopefully we can work through them all. Really once you have it set up O bet you'll rarely mess with it. The spacers sure, but more than likely not the cable. Those TriRig guys are thinkers, I really like that in a company. If you do end up going with the TM02 def set it up with there cockpit and brake!
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [harts] [ In reply to ]
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harts wrote:
Just finished building up a Di2 version and it now fits just right BUT brakes have been my issue as well.

I have Firecrest racing wheels and they are wide and I am training on Mavics. The problem is not being able to go wide enough as you can remove various brake stops it is finding that happy middle ground to being able to go narrow enough to fit the mavics in and get a good functioning brake. I have put in barrell adjusters and it isnt quite right yet. I am changing a part of the brake system that should do the trick.

I have had to cut an allen key down so as it can reach the drive side rear calliper which is tucked away nice and neatly behind the chainring which is a pain. Needless to say a quick change come race morning is not really on the cards.

In the process of contacting distributor to work out a solution as they sell the bike with fire crests on so I am assuming this issue would have well and truely raised its head before.

Soooo, what part are trying to replace in the brake system?
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Zoom_zoom_Ben] [ In reply to ]
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How did you get the Torhans bottle so low, ie how many/what screws did you use ? If I want to get it there I can only use 1 seatpost screw and I guess I could drill another in the holder to be able to attach to the downtube holder. Without modification my bottle is higher, like branmg in the post a few above above

thanks
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  • Frame: BMC TM01 / size medium/short
  • Fork: BMC Carbon Integrated Aero Hinge
  • Crankset: Rotor 3D 175mm with Power2max powermeter
  • BB box: Parlee cups with CeramicSpeed bearings
  • TT chainring: O.Symetric 54t / 44t
  • Handelbar: Pro Missile EVO aero
  • Stem: BMC P2P Tri Angle Concept Stem
  • Headset: FSA Orbit IS Carbon
  • Seatpost: BMC P2P 21_21 Offset Carbon Post
  • Brakes caliper: BMC integrated brake system, Front & Rear
  • Brakes levels: Campagnolo TT
  • Front derailleur: Campagnolo Super Record 11 speed
  • Rear derailleur: Campagnolo Super Record 11 speed
  • Pedal: Time RXS Carbon
  • Chain: KMC X11SL gold
  • Sadel: ProLogo Nago EVO HB w/carbon rails
  • Wire: Gore Ride-On
  • Cable housing: Gore Ride-On
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  • Front Wheel: ZIPP 808
  • Disk Wheel: Lightweight AutoBahn
  • Tubulars: Continental Podium TT 19
  • Cassette: Campagnolo Super Record 11-23T
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  • Front Wheel: Mavic IO
  • Disk Wheel: Lightweight AutoBahn
  • Tubulars: Continental Podium TT 19
  • Cassette: Campagnolo Super Record 11-23T


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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Tillquist] [ In reply to ]
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Looks good. Brakes are horrible. Front brake kind of 'chucks'.. its not smooth at all.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Cake] [ In reply to ]
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Great thread all! I just took receipt of my TM02 yesterday and stuck a set of 404s on it. Looking good so far, but I will be going the Ui2 route next month. I noticed that it is a bit on the stodgy side, so I'll be swapping out some of the heavier bits for some carbon bling. Any advice on a quick win?

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Ironrav wrote:
I noticed that it is a bit on the stodgy side
My current build is 7300 g and I estimate that the final bike will be about 8400 to 8500 grams.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [fabricatedyou] [ In reply to ]
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I have the same issue with the front end of mine. Right now I am using all the risers to get my pro missile at the right height. Looking at replacing it this year with possibly the EVO version or get the new TriRig aero bar when it comes out and get the front cleaned up like you did.

As for the brakes, they are a PITA. I got the bontrager RXXXL Aero levers and they seem to work ok to adjust the brakes when switching wheels.

One question about your first photo, how are you holding the flask in there?


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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [marcag] [ In reply to ]
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It just has one screw in it. My frame is a M/L and it fits really well. I know on the Small frames it cant get down so far though.

Ive never had any issues with that bottle though, and the one screw works well still.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [fabricatedyou] [ In reply to ]
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Photos of my TM02: http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...string=tm02;#4253029


Regarding the common break pad issue. I run standard training rims and race with Firecrest 808. My solution is as follows. Two sets of pads, do not use the pad lock screws, and pull slight tension on the cable with the training wheels.

Bike setup for training: I have the pad holders set all the way out with no inner spacers (all the spacers are on the outside). I bought the thickest (deepest) pads I could find and slid them into the pad holders, and do not use the pad holder screws (the brake action naturally slides the pads into the holder). I then pull slight tension on the cable to pull the arms off the stop pins and then tighten the cable screw. The arms do not sit on the brake arm stop pins, but they center fine (this is opposed to what BMC says to do). I guess the other option is to use a barrel adjuster.

Bike setup for racing: I loosen the brake cable screw so the cable and arms release back to the arm stop pins, I remove the training brake pads (they slide right out since no set screw), slide in filed down carbon brake pads, pull the brake cable tight and tighten the cable screw. Done, and ready to race. Takes less then 2-3 minutes.


Btw, there are some great looking bikes on this thread. I love the Lightweight disc.

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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [fabricatedyou] [ In reply to ]
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Btw, if anybody wants to buy any 3T bars for their TM01/02, I have 2 brand new sets.

Brezza: red stripe, alloy s-bend extensions, carbon cups, basic mounting hardware. (would look great on a black/red TM01)

Ventus: silver stripe, carbon straight extensions, large comfort carbon cups, extra risers and hardware. (would look great on a silver TM02)

---PM me if interested. I won't post prices or reply to questions on this thread because it's not the classifieds and I don't want to hijack the thread.---


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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Zoom_zoom_Ben] [ In reply to ]
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Zoom_zoom_Ben wrote:
It just has one screw in it. My frame is a M/L and it fits really well. I know on the Small frames it cant get down so far though.

Ive never had any issues with that bottle though, and the one screw works well still.

Cool, thanks
Mine is a M/L and I can get it down to where you are, but then I can only use one screw to the seat tube.
But if I could drill a small hole in the bottle to line up with the hole on the downtube if I really wanted 2 screws. But if 1 works, good enough.

Do you use it for drink or flat kit ? If flat kit, I have seen people cut the bottom of the bottle and some the back (along the seat tube). Not sure which is better.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [marcag] [ In reply to ]
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I used mine as a watered down gel flask for IMSG and Leadman 250.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [3Dealz] [ In reply to ]
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I hooked the flask to the cables that exit the extensions. The upper Velcro strap is on the cables and the lower is around the stem.

On pulling tension on the brake cable. I did the same thing. But, one of the springs is just too strong to make a difference.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Zoom_zoom_Ben] [ In reply to ]
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Does it rattle at all with only one screw?

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Not at all. It doesnt twist either. The mount actually fits the tripwire grooves on the frame really well and gets held in place. My GF has the TM02 in small and we put it on hers as well and it worked great. So n=2 for it working!

The only special thing I had to do was on hers I drilled a new bolt hole to mount it as low as I could.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [fabricatedyou] [ In reply to ]
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I have a 2012 TM01 (purchased last year before joining the Wattie Ink Team).



The bike is a MS with SRAM Red, R2C shifters, and 167.5mm crank arms. The saddle is an ISM Adamo TT.

The aerobar is a 3T Aura. The red highlight color is available as a special Cervelo OEM and really matches the bike's graphics. 3T has a Stealth model available this year, which is made for di2 and routes the brake cables out the rear of the base bar, which should make cleaner cable routing. The plain black graphics should match any BMC Time Machine model you choose to get. Part of the reason I chose this bar was because it would allow me enough extension length for a BTA bottle and a computer. I use an X-Lab Torpedo and a Profile Design Universal Computer Mount.

I use Fulcrum Racing Ts for training and Hed C2s for racing. I also use the Bontrager RXXXL brake levers with built-in barrel adjusters. Joe Santos, of Davis Wheelworks, did a great job setting up the bike and the brakes in particular. Once the brakes were set up and dialed in, swapping wheels with the barrel adjusters was a breeze. The Bontrager RXXXL brake levers, IMO, are a must with this bike.

The one thing I have not done, and will probably ask about when I next have the bike tuned up, is replace the drive side brake pad bolt with a hex head bolt. Damon Rinard once recommended this for the P5. It should make changing brake pads easier.

I am also racing IMTX this year. I would like to carry a bottle behind the saddle. The X-Lab Delta would be great, but I'm not sure where I would put my flat kit.

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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [fabricatedyou] [ In reply to ]
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Nice bikes everyone. Here was mine from IM Louisville last summer:



Regarding the brakes, after the first set-up, I never had to adjust anything other than the spacer washers all year when going from training to race wheels. For the front, I went from the DT Swiss to an 808FC, which was simply sliding out the stock pads in inserting the cork pads. Quick and easy. For the rear I had to move 1 washer from outside to inside when going from DT Swiss to Zipp Clincher disc. This was a little more involved since I had to pull the crank off to access the drive side pad. This took about 15-20 minutes from start to finish. A quicker way to do this would be nice, and something I want to figure out for this year.


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3Dealz wrote:
I have the same issue with the front end of mine. Right now I am using all the risers to get my pro missile at the right height. Looking at replacing it this year with possibly the EVO version or get the new TriRig aero bar when it comes out and get the front cleaned up like you did.
As for the brakes, they are a PITA. I got the bontrager RXXXL Aero levers and they seem to work ok to adjust the brakes when switching wheels.

One question about your first photo, how are you holding the flask in there?

I managed to sort out the risers on my Pro missile bar by using some risers to get it up 40mm. I needed to get the elbow pads up but not the base bar as that would have effected the steering. You will be hard pushed to find pro missle evo bars without having to pay upwards of $1K as I had recently churned through various websites to no avail. The other advantage with Pro Missile is you can put in Ski bends extension bars to get the right height as well.

I have mine in with my mechanic so when I get it back I shall post pics as to what I have sorted with the brakes.
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which risers did you use to get it up that much?
Would love to see photos when you get it back.


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Tom Maliszewski wrote:
Nice bikes everyone. Here was mine from IM Louisville last summer:



Regarding the brakes, after the first set-up, I never had to adjust anything other than the spacer washers all year when going from training to race wheels. For the front, I went from the DT Swiss to an 808FC, which was simply sliding out the stock pads in inserting the cork pads. Quick and easy. For the rear I had to move 1 washer from outside to inside when going from DT Swiss to Zipp Clincher disc. This was a little more involved since I had to pull the crank off to access the drive side pad. This took about 15-20 minutes from start to finish. A quicker way to do this would be nice, and something I want to figure out for this year.

Is that a Specialized bottle? It fills the frame very nicely. What size frame is that?

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here's my bike, i noted on the break issue, just use less break on tt :)
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My 2011 TT02 Time Machine!

Beautiful Time Machines you all have!
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Yes, the Specialized Virtue bottle. It mounts low with no modifications to the cage; just bolt it on.

The frame is size M-L.


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Nice TT02; here's mine. I have a new silver TM02 ready to build. I will check out the TriRig ideas for the cockpit.


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Amen to the bontrager RXXXL brake levers. They are crucial on this build especially for the front brake although they do limit your aerobar selection! I believe these brakes are really the only ones with integrated barrel adjusters...
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So match my name also the font on my BMC TM01 Smile

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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Tillquist] [ In reply to ]
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Do you make the name stickers yourself or do you order them from somewhere? Mine are from Flandria Bikes.
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VP wrote:
Do you make the name stickers yourself or do you order them from somewhere? Mine are from Flandria Bikes.

Mine are from VC Grafhix.com -great service.

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BMC TM01
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Thanks, ordered a set. I asked to have more space between the flag and name like this: http://www.tririg.com/...y_BMC_TM01&num=4

Let's see how they turn out.
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kenpetruzzelli wrote:
I am also racing IMTX this year. I would like to carry a bottle behind the saddle. The X-Lab Delta would be great, but I'm not sure where I would put my flat kit.

Ken - talk to Sherpa about the bottle behind the saddle…he's got a solution fabricated for this.



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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Joe Santos] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks Joe. Always appreciate your outside the box solutions.

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Hi,

Sorry to bring up this thread again. Is anyone using Xentis Mark1 or Mark2 on TM01? Will there by any issues like chain rubbing on seat stay and such? Thanks in advance.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Tamu8104] [ In reply to ]
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Finally finished my build after receiving my eTube TT junction box. Also ended up building a new wheelset for it. Very happy with how it turned out. Even with the heavier Ultegra Di2 (had a mix of SRAM Red/Force on the last TT bike), it's about 1 lb lighter then my old TT bike. Will add the Di2 brake levers when they come out.


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Nice looking ride!
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [fabricatedyou] [ In reply to ]
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My TM02: http://heartlegsandlungs.tumblr.com/image/43186454966

Will work out how to upload/embed the image later.

- SRAM Force groupset w R2C shifters
- SRAM Quarq powermeter
- Mavic Cosmic Carbone SLR
- Veloflex Corsa 23 clinchers
- Renn 575 clincher disc
- Profile Aeria bar
- Cobb SHC170
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VP wrote:
Let's see how they turn out.
The first batch had a flag that looked like it was drawn by a 4-year-old and there was way too much space between the flag and name, but the second version was much better.

Still waiting for the ST-9071 to be available before I can finish my TM01.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [mattharrop] [ In reply to ]
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Nice bike :-)



My TT bike
BMC TM01
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Tillquist] [ In reply to ]
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Agree with Tillquist, nice bike. Are you sure the rear derailleur cable isn't too long?

Tillquist wrote:
Nice bike :-)

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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [fabricatedyou] [ In reply to ]
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Hi guys,

I have a 2012 TM01, DI2, Black&Blue.

I need to take pics..

Here's the question : how do you feel about the aeroness of this bike relative to the P5, Shivs....of this world ?

it looks fast, it looks hot but in the absence of any data how do we really know ?
Anyone have experience measuring relative to other superbikes ?
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [marcag] [ In reply to ]
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The only inkling I've seen is from Damon who said that a Scott Plasma Premium is much faster than a TM01 but that he really couldn't divulge any more information. So theres that one tidbit...
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [marcag] [ In reply to ]
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I have a good idea, that based on *MY* set-up it is competitive in the aero department. In 2010, I rode a P3C, so that is my baseline bike. In 2011, I rode a nose-cone Shiv. I was consistently 3 min faster on a HIM and 6 in faster on an IM with the same power as the P3. I didn't measure this scientifically (I.e. I didn't calculate a CdA), but this was based on my general speed vs. power correlation for both training rides and race set-up. In 2012, I rode a BMC TM01. My times were consistent with the nose-cone Shiv with the same power.

So is it absolutely the fastest bike out there? I have no idea, but given my real world observations, it IS in the same ballpark as the other superbikes in aero-ness, and it is much more comfortable than the Shiv.


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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Tom Maliszewski] [ In reply to ]
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Tom Maliszewski wrote:
I have a good idea, that based on *MY* set-up it is competitive in the aero department. In 2010, I rode a P3C, so that is my baseline bike. In 2011, I rode a nose-cone Shiv. I was consistently 3 min faster on a HIM and 6 in faster on an IM with the same power as the P3. I didn't measure this scientifically (I.e. I didn't calculate a CdA), but this was based on my general speed vs. power correlation for both training rides and race set-up. In 2012, I rode a BMC TM01. My times were consistent with the nose-cone Shiv with the same power.


So is it absolutely the fastest bike out there? I have no idea, but given my real world observations, it IS in the same ballpark as the other superbikes in aero-ness, and it is much more comfortable than the Shiv.


Thanks. After I posted my question I got this by email from someone that has been doing some tunnel testing


"the new TM01 is pretty aero. We did not do any bike only testing though. Our aero guy says it is one of the best new bikes. In the same plane as the P5 Cervelo and the Specialized Shiv"

Seems to match your findings
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [marcag] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for sharing. Glad to see someone else found similar results.


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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [wasfast] [ In reply to ]
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Agree, it looks pretty ugly but it's only very slightly over SRAM's recommended length. Worth it for better shifting?

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Tom Maliszewski wrote:
I have a good idea, that based on *MY* set-up it is competitive in the aero department. In 2010, I rode a P3C, so that is my baseline bike. In 2011, I rode a nose-cone Shiv. I was consistently 3 min faster on a HIM and 6 in faster on an IM with the same power as the P3. I didn't measure this scientifically (I.e. I didn't calculate a CdA), but this was based on my general speed vs. power correlation for both training rides and race set-up. In 2012, I rode a BMC TM01. My times were consistent with the nose-cone Shiv with the same power.

So is it absolutely the fastest bike out there? I have no idea, but given my real world observations, it IS in the same ballpark as the other superbikes in aero-ness, and it is much more comfortable than the Shiv.

I've heard through the grapevine that the P5 isn't really that much faster than a P4. After seeing this comment I tried to find an old article from when the P4 came out about how many seconds it would save you in a 40k, Ironman, etc. The best I could find was Tom Demerly's old article. According to Tom Demerly's article, the theoretical difference between a P3 and a P4 in an Ironman would be about... 6 minutes.

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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [kenpetruzzelli] [ In reply to ]
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I am 5'9'' and i would like to know about the size. M-S or M-L for a TM 02? Thank you.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [LMB] [ In reply to ]
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check out the sizing tool. it's for the tm01 but they seem to be same geometry
http://www.bmc-racing.com/...g-tool.html?switch=1


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I'm 5'9" 160# and ride a M-S.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [LMB] [ In reply to ]
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I'm 5ft 11+ and ride a M-L.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [fabricatedyou] [ In reply to ]
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A query about getting access to the rear brake pad holder on the drive side.

I'm running a SRAM Quarq powermeter with Red rings, which means that the drive side brake pad holder bolt isn't accessible. I've tried filing down a 4mm allen key to slip in next to the chainstay and behind the big chainring, but it isn't easy to get proper leverage. My LBS suggested changing the big chainring for another type which is not "filled" in (e.g a round Rotor ring, SRAM Force ring or an early Red ring) in order to get access to the bolt. Has anyone tried this? Will it even work? Seems that the bolt is still right behind the teeth of the outer ring?

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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [mattharrop] [ In reply to ]
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I'm running the same crank and I just take the Quarq off to get to the brake. It's pretty quick and easy.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Tamu8104] [ In reply to ]
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Did you guys go the epoxy route for the magnets on your Quarq's?
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [RADCORE] [ In reply to ]
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Hello TM01's friends :-)
This is my first post on this great forum !
This is my bike for my 2013 Ironman Season. I'm Lucas, from Dijon, France.




https://www.facebook.com/...lice-RS/374476684664
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Welcome! Very nice.


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Nice bike :-)

My TT bike
BMC TM01
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Finally finished after 8 months and a week.

Frameset: BMC Timemachine TM01 M-L
Front wheel: FFWD F9R DT 240s
Rear wheel: FFWD Disc
Front derailleur: Shimano Ultegra Di2 FD-6770
Rear derailleus: Shimano Ultegra Di2 RD-6770
Shifters: Shimano Dura-Ace Di2 SW-9071
Brake levers: Shimano Dura-Ace Di2 ST-9071
Cables and housing: Gore RideOn Low Friction
Brake pads: SwissStop FlashPro Yellow King
Aerobars: PRO Missile Evo
Saddle: Prologo Nago EVO TTR
Crankset: Rotor 3D+ MAS 172.5 mm
Chainrings: Rotor Q-Rings Aero 55/42
Bottom bracket: Rotor BB30 Steel
Cassette: Shimano Ultegra 6700 11-23
Chain: Shimano Dura-Ace 7900
Tires: Veloflex Record
Pedals: Speedplay Zero SS
Bottle: Elite TT (not pictured)
Chain catcher: Rotor
Garmin mount: Custom
Sensor: Garmin GSC-10

8530 g without the Garmin.
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Wow!

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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [VP] [ In reply to ]
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Really nice build!! Where did you put the 5-port junction box?

I'm still waiting on my 9071 brake levers...
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [VP] [ In reply to ]
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Wow! Totally awesome looking rig.

Congrats!
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Tamu8104] [ In reply to ]
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Where did you put the 5-port junction box?
The 5-port junction SM-EW90-B was too bulky so I opted for a SM-EW67A-E and two extra SM-JC41's instead:



The SM-JC41's and all cables are stuffed inside the bars. You can see the SM-EW67A-E near the stem in the frontal photo.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [VP] [ In reply to ]
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Gotcha, thanks for sharing that.

I currently have the 5 port but I'm wondering if there is a cleaner way to run it. I may look at replicating your setup but then I loose the ability to charge the battery without removing the wheels.


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Visited where Time machine is made in Switerland. Very cool.

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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [VP] [ In reply to ]
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Gorgeous! She is beautiful!
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [kulcha] [ In reply to ]
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Does anybody ride a size small frame, and/or pictures of one? Been trying to decide between a M-L and Small frame size.

I'm 5'7 with about a 32.75 inch inseam.

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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [bigd] [ In reply to ]
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bigd wrote:
Does anybody ride a size small frame, and/or pictures of one? Been trying to decide between a M-L and Small frame size.

I'm 5'7 with about a 32.75 inch inseam.

I'm on S frame, here's my bike: http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?post=4214211

Our heights are quite the same, cheers :)
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [mattharrop] [ In reply to ]
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Matt, what Quarq BB did you install on your bike?
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [jhb1406] [ In reply to ]
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This is my new TM01
its name is KUTONG

http://db.tt/c8eI40Ps

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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [VP] [ In reply to ]
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Wow... Really nice and it can stand on its own!!!


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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [3Dealz] [ In reply to ]
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Hey Guys,

Any idea where I buy the rubber grommet by the seat post - the one that covers the seat post bolt. I lost mine at the last race I was at.

Thanks
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Hp17bii] [ In reply to ]
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Very nice. What is her weight?
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [BK1] [ In reply to ]
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BK1 wrote:
Hey Guys,

Any idea where I buy the rubber grommet by the seat post - the one that covers the seat post bolt. I lost mine at the last race I was at.

Thanks

I lost mine as well and found them at an auto parts store (repco in Oz)
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [beejay] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks! Much appreciated!
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [fabricatedyou] [ In reply to ]
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OK gang--I just picked up my new TM01. here is a pic of my old lady--the TT01 and the new baby. The new bike has quite a bit more aggressive geometry and I'm able to get a nicer, more aero position on it:


Here is the new bike--details include:

size ML which is around 56cm I think
Campy Super Record 11 drive chain (53/39 and 11/23 with 172.5mm crank arms)
SRM PM and Edge 800 head unit
Zipp Super 9 carbon clincher disc and Zipp FC 880s F/R--I'm moving the decals to the Black motif on the disc
3T Breeza II Ltd aerobars
Keo Blade Carbon TI 12NM pedals
Sella Italia XC Flow Saddle



Finally, here are head-on shots of both--note the more advanced front end of the TM01 (second pic):






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Nice duo!
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VP wrote:








How the fuck is the bike just standing on it's own
?!

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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [imjustin] [ In reply to ]
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The Swiss have always stood on their own!



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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [imjustin] [ In reply to ]
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people photoshop out the stand ;)
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imjustin wrote:
How the fuck is the bike just standing on it's own ?!
Photoshop magic. ;) Some small adjustments to the position since the photos. The extensions are now at their widest and the saddle is in the rear-most hole of the seatpost.

Some action photos:






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Look closely. Its there, just tucked next to the frame!

It is located in the right hole in the headtube just below the bar.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [snoop] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [fabricatedyou] [ In reply to ]
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Here my new Time Machine in action.

ITT 19km
BMC Time Machine TM01
Campy SR 11S crank 165mm
Enve tubular 6.7
3t auro pro (now swapped for a pro missile evo)

Sorry for the lack of skinsuit (i did however put on one of my girlfriend's jersey in order to get the tightest fit possible...) or aero lid.


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Keep posting pictures guys! I love the look of this bike. Jealous as hell of all you bastards who own one.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [JTK28] [ In reply to ]
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A heads up for Time Machine owners - I've just got back from Cairns 70.3 and had major drama before the race. The seatpost clamp parts (two wedges, allen bolt, and washer) which sit inside the frame disappeared. I couldn't tighten the seatpost at all. Cue stressful trip to the BMC distributor and negotiating to take the parts off another Time Machine so I could race. I was very lucky that the only BMC bike in the local store happened to be a Time Machine that I could take the parts off!

When packing my bike to fly home, I discovered that the seatpost clamp parts had fallen inside the frame and become wedged in the BB area. I could see them through the hole above the brake. They were stuck and not rattling so that's why I had no idea whether they'd fallen outside the frame and got lost, or had fallen inside it.

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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [mattharrop] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks. I always put it in a zip lock bag when packing up for traveling.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [snoop] [ In reply to ]
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For (primarily) curiosity, what weights are people running their TM01 and TM02's at with what setups? I know that aero trumps weight, but might as well try for both!
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Mine is 8.5 kg.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [mattharrop] [ In reply to ]
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hi there
How difficult is it to assemble / disassemble the TM 01 to get it ready for races? I have a Look 596 and the pedals are a pain to dismount / mount. Any issues with any part of the TM 01?
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [bigd] [ In reply to ]
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bigd wrote:
Does anybody ride a size small frame, and/or pictures of one? Been trying to decide between a M-L and Small frame size.

I'm 5'7 with about a 32.75 inch inseam.


Medium-Small would probably be perfect...(54cm with short top tube)
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [spikey69] [ In reply to ]
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Pretty easy. Just don't have the seat clamp fall into the frame as mentioned above. Brakes are the only difficult thing about the bike
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [maluminse] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for the quick reply. The local bike shop is selling the TM 01 frame alone (all black) at US$3595. Good deal?
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What year is the frame? That seems a little expensive for just the frame.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [maluminse] [ In reply to ]
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I don't know about you guys but up north in Canada, the frame alone retails for 5 500$ (full retail of course) so less than 4000 does not sound SO bad.

JD
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You can find new 2012 models with ultegra for about 1000 more...I would keep looking, but if you want it, get it
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I picked mine up with ultegra and a new saddle for a touch over 4k with tax included.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [maluminse] [ In reply to ]
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Does you bike shop ship overseas? A little over $4k usd sounds really good!
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [spikey69] [ In reply to ]
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Wasnt my shop, saw it online a month ago, just search around, its a good deal. $3500 for the frame is ok, but no crazy good deal, I would look for a complete bike and sell the parts you dont need
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [spikey69] [ In reply to ]
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No real issues. Pedal removal is as per any normal crankset. Only difference to bikes I've travelled with in the past is the front end. Because the fork doesn't turn 90 degrees to the left or right, you need to loosen the stem in order to be able to turn the bars hard up against the frame.

Matt Harrop
http://www.matt-harroptriathlete.com
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [bigd] [ In reply to ]
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bigd wrote:
Does anybody ride a size small frame, and/or pictures of one? Been trying to decide between a M-L and Small frame size.

I'm 5'7 with about a 32.75 inch inseam.

I race IM distance on a size S frame and I'm 175 cm ( 5'9"), 65 kgs (143 lbs). I love it. BMC have an online frame sizing section on their website which recommended either S or S-M for me after inputting my measurements. The guys at the shop suggested going with S which has turned out perfect.

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mattharrop wrote:
A heads up for Time Machine owners - I've just got back from Cairns 70.3 and had major drama before the race. The seatpost clamp parts (two wedges, allen bolt, and washer) which sit inside the frame disappeared. I couldn't tighten the seatpost at all. Cue stressful trip to the BMC distributor and negotiating to take the parts off another Time Machine so I could race. I was very lucky that the only BMC bike in the local store happened to be a Time Machine that I could take the parts off!

When packing my bike to fly home, I discovered that the seatpost clamp parts had fallen inside the frame and become wedged in the BB area. I could see them through the hole above the brake. They were stuck and not rattling so that's why I had no idea whether they'd fallen outside the frame and got lost, or had fallen inside it.

Yes that has happened to me several times too. Feels weird turning the frame upside down shaking it to get it out. Once i lost the nut at the hottom of the seat clamp (i think it might be trapped inside the frame somewhere. i was able to huy a replacement at a local hardware store to complete my trianing camp. I now tape the whole widget in the cavity, but now I think I'll remove it in a ziplock bag, and also buy a spare to travel with just in case....
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Yeah, very wise to have a spare I think. I've managed to extract the one lost inside my seat tube via the Di2 battery cover and so I've now got a spare!

Matt Harrop
http://www.matt-harroptriathlete.com
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [fabricatedyou] [ In reply to ]
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Hi mate,

Do you have any pics of your modified brake noodle setup? Based on your advice I have purchased some flexible noodles however with the stiff GORE outer cables it is a bit of a pain to fit.

fabricatedyou wrote:
Lets talk Time Machine!!

Last season I bought and built up my TMO1 with Ultegra. I race with Bontrager Aeolus 9's. Its super clean bike although I didnt care for the aerobar setup. I set the bike fit up from my other bikes coordinates so it wasnt a fit issue. I just didnt like the look of the front end. I wanted it to be clean and it was kinda clunky looking. So after the two final races in the season, 70.3's in Weisbaden and Ireland, I changed from the stock Profile Design cockpit to a 3T Aura Pro setup. The front end on the TM01 has a ton of different combinations with the stem. My fit coordinates dicated that the stem needed to be in one of the highest sitting positions and along with the aerobars set up it added to the clunkiness I didnt like. The goal was to drop the front end and allow it to go along with the lines of the rest of the frame without messing with my fit. I knew I could get the bars down at about frame level Id just have to get the risers for the arm pads and the right extensions. I figured it all out and the fit is within a few miilimeters of where I was. The stem made it so easy! Those guys were thinking!!! While I was at it, I swopped out for some white cable housing too. Sure the only place you see it is at the front as it goes into the steertube cap/ cable organizer, and at the rear of the bike, but along with the white on the frame seat and on the 3T bar, its pretty much like money in the bank!


Clunky version


New cockpit

Now, does anyone have any questions about this bike?

I have a few issues with the brakes and really they are the only thing I have come across with it.

I am also a bike mechanic. I found that the only thing on the bike that will give you fuss while building it is the brakes. The rest is pretty straight forward. Sure the internal cables can be fussy but it wasnt bad. Whats bad about the brakes involves the cables. As with any V-brake they use a brake noodle, a TINY one. I personally think the brakes feel like garbage because of the really tight bend in the noodle. I replaced my noodles with the noodles that are flexible, I cut it to length and it changed the entire way the brakes feel. Also, when cutting the housing, you have to cut it so that the noodle rests on it inside the frame, so short that the housing disappears inside of the frame. Its not so bad on the back but in the front fork, lets just say its a pain in the butt to get the cable out whe the housing is inside the fork. The hole is very small. Another thing that takes a bit of time is setting the brakes up for your rim width. Its not done with a spring tension adjustment at all. it differs from normal Vbrakes because normal v brakes open. Normally, once you use the correct pad spacers you just adjust it so you get the desired amount of play; close or not as close, depending on how you want your brake lever positioned on lock. With the BMC brakes, there are stops that do not allow the brake arms to open past a specific point. NOTE these brakes play an aerodynamic role along with the frame so they have to line up with the lines of it. In limiting the distance of which the arms can open, you limit how space you can have once the pads and the pads spacers are on. With this bike, you use extra spacers and combinations of them to dictate the distance between rim and pad. That dictates how far your brake levers go in. But really. This is a bike of extreme precision, once its set up, you dont have to change it much if any. Taking the time to set up the brakes is something we all must do, it just takes a bit more time on this bike. Now that the brakes are set up, and feel better than they did with the stock brake noodle, we can talk about the feel of their engagement. On a normal V-brake, like on a mountain bike, we use spring tension to not only adjust how much force we have to use to close the brake but also to balance out each arm as to make the pads hit the braking surface simolatinioulsy. This is the BIGGEST gripe I have about my Time Machine's brakes!!!! There is no way to adjust the balance of the arms. The frame is narrow so there is only so much space for a cable to bend basically 90 degrees as they have to with a v-brake. I say that because the tight internal spacing puts the housing to one side of the frame, the cable bends through the noodle, and gets hooked to the brake arm. Its a small space for all of that to be going on in and the tightness puts a limit on the housing's movement. THAT limits one of the brake arm's movement. The small amount of extra pressure on the cable housing could be overpowered by either increasing the opposing arm's spring tension or by decreasing the tension in the arm the cable is hooked to. The BMC does not have that option though!!! On both brakes, one of the pads hits the rim before the other. When your used to brake perfection things like that might bother you for a bit as it did me. Im over it as in im used to it so I dont cry when it happens on a ride but I still want to find a solution!

The other issue with the brake is a small one. I fixed it on my bike but it may be an issue on other bikes depending on the rim and tire width differences. As most road brakes have a a release to use when taking the wheel off the TM does not. you cant even open the v-brake due to reasons I mentioned above. The front wheel, on mine, isnt an issue at all but the rear wheel is. I cut a small portion of housing out of the way on the tiny length of the cable that is visible between the aerobar and the frame and put a cable adjuster on. No, when I get a flat I can just follow the steps in changing it without having to change when I inflate the tire. Not sure if every raody does this but, I inflate the tire while off the bike, then put it back on. I wouldnt have been able to do that without that little barrel adjuster on the cable. Sure I have to remember to loosen the cable before I take the wheel off or put it back on but thats better than changing up a process I have done for years, agree? with the adjuster, I think there is enough range to even put other, thinner or wider, wheels on it. But, the front is another issue. My rims are very close to the same width for both the Bontrager and the Mavics that came on it. So, theres that. Now there is this. IF you plan to train on one set of wheels and then change it up on race day to a race wheel, be ready to mess around with the pad spacers. Hopefully you dont have to mess with anything to do with cables, especially the front one. The front brake has a plastic cover that hides the noodle/cable connection area. The hole on the brake arm is TINY. Its the width of a cable. You HAVE to cut the remainder of the calbe off once its tightened. Anything that hangs out of the arm will hit the plastic cover and it would just make the cover stick out off the line of the fork. Kinda shitty! I suppose you could drill a tiny hole on the plastic piece so that you could have about 5-10mm of cable remaining once it exits the arm, but hopefully you never have to change that when it comes to wheels. Also, the tiny screw that tightens the cable to the arm is of the crushing type. Once tightened it just smooshes the cable to the point of no return. Meaning, even with the fastener completely loose, and even out of its hole, the cable with still take a hefty amount of pulling to get it out of the arm. The hole in the arm is so small that the expanded/crushed cable cant fit through it to well. If you have to adjust a cable, just make sure you have a new one on hand and at the ready.

Does anyone know if any of these issues have been fixed for 2013, prolly not but hey. anyone?

While asking questions, I thought of this. Are tri brake levers all the same in the way that they pull, distance in particular? Let me elaborate. I know on nice MNT bike brake levers, both cable and hyrdo, have adjustments for both engagement and lever position. For angle of attack and modulation. Im sure its just a matter of pivot point and leverage on the lever itself. I ask bc I would like my to tweek my levers. At full engagement they are farely close to the bar and Im not a fan of it. This is NOT a matter of pad distance either. I have no experience in tri/tt brake levers other than what I have and the few I have adjusted for others. None of them had any adjustments on the lever itself.

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I just got a new car and will be switching from roof rack to rear rack. Does anybody have any problems with the racks that hang the bike from the top tube? The different shape of that tube has me a little worried about wear and tear. Or is it not a big issue? Any tips to protect the paint?


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New to the forums here but not new to the tri game. I will be picking up my TM01 Ultegra M-S on Friday after I get professionally fitted. So pumped and can't wait to get on it. I will be keeping it fairly stock unfortunately until next season when I'll upgrade the wheels (school loans just started kicking in). I will post pics soon; some really nice looking bikes on here I wish my budget could afford the Di2 but there's always a chance to upgrade in the future.
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Here's the new bike so pumped to have it. Ended up going with the Cobb Gen2 saddle fit the best. Future upgrades would be new wheels not sure which ones to go with yet, new base bar, and new hydration setup but for now this bike will be worlds better than my road bike.
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I upgraded the wheels on my TM last month. Front Hed 6 and Hed disc in the rear. Very happy.
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+1
brakes really suck and i tried with various noodles but didn't get anywhere
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Here are some 2014 color.......





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Posting on behalf of a local owner...




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Much as I love my TM01, I am going to have sell if I cannot get these brakes sorted. Have already had one accident due to brake fade and dont want another.

Main issues are caused by the positioning of the noodle - I cannot route front or back in a manner which has a smooth connection between noodle and brake outer. Have given up on rear brake, front brake will stop me using an aluminium rim but inadequate stopping power with a tri-spoke and I am only 71 kg.
If any of you guys have pics of your noodle set up, I would really appreciate a peek.

I really do not want to go down the road of selling my prized bike over this - it seems crazy.
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Tillquist wrote:
Here are some 2014 color.......




Are they speccing a 3T Brezza on the di2 version this year?

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Track Machine TR01 and TR02 in the background as well as TMR02 aero road bike, same as the TMR01 but with a standard front brake.
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Thanks. I did buy some flexy noodles but had no further success with them.
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Just curious for the mounting of the DA / VR bottle - do you use the DA-specific frame mount or the generic, and do you know which of the two fits best for the TM01 seat tube? Planning on doing the same setup. Thanks
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Honestly, I dont know which one is which. The one I use has a "U" shape that hugs the tube very nicely (I would guess its the Felt, but Id ask them just to be sure). I have another mount for the VR bottle that is more like a standard bottle mount that curves away from the tube. I use this one one the GF's size small TM01. The mounting position is a bit more forgiving.

Depending on the bike size you may need to make a new hole. Also depends on how low you want it to fit in there. On mine (size M/L) i made a new hole and only mount it with one screw. Its survived many a bumps without issue. I know on the size small the fit is a bit different in that the VR bottle is a bit too long to slide all the way down by the bottom bracket (it runs in to the down tube) so you are limited on how low it can be mounted.
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Hey guys, i need help.
I do not know how it happened, but the frame of my new BMC TM02 cracked.
There is a crack around 1cm on the bottom of the top tube, near the seat tube.Just below the screw which adjust the seat.
I am in doubt what to do. Is it necessary to fix? Is dangerous ride the bike with this?
Thank you.
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You over tightened the seat tube clamp. When you do the bolt pushes in to the bottom of the top tube near the joint with the seat tube. Im guessing there is a little bump on that diagonal piece at the joint right? How safe it is depends on how much the bolt caused a protrusion. Ive known another person who did the same thing and had a small pimple like bump, but it didnt break through the carbon. That bike is and continues to be fine. Its a redundant area thats really only there to accommodate the seat post clamp. That being said, it all depends how hard you pushed the bolt through... realistically you are fine though.

Lesson: Go buy a torque wrench. Torque specs are on there for a reason.
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Honestly, I dont know which one is which. The one I use has a "U" shape that hugs the tube very nicely (I would guess its the Felt, but Id ask them just to be sure). I have another mount for the VR bottle that is more like a standard bottle mount that curves away from the tube. I use this one one the GF's size small TM01. The mounting position is a bit more forgiving.

Depending on the bike size you may need to make a new hole. Also depends on how low you want it to fit in there. On mine (size M/L) i made a new hole and only mount it with one screw. Its survived many a bumps without issue. I know on the size small the fit is a bit different in that the VR bottle is a bit too long to slide all the way down by the bottom bracket (it runs in to the down tube) so you are limited on how low it can be mounted.

Before you go drilling holes in your frame, try the X-Lab Aero Optimizer. It will let you move the cage up or down about 1.75" for a better fit.

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You dont drill a hole in the frame. You drill the hole in the bottle cage. Adding that X-Lab thing will make the bottle further from the seat tube and not fit as low because it will run in the the down tube sooner (higher).
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Hey guys, i need help.

I do not know how it happened, but the frame of my new BMC TM02 cracked.
There is a crack around 1cm on the bottom of the top tube, near the seat tube.Just below the screw which adjust the seat.
I am in doubt what to do. Is it necessary to fix? Is dangerous ride the bike with this?
Thank you.


After reading time posts, so check out my TM01 and found out what the problem was / is.

The bolt that spans saddle pin solid is 2-3mm too long.

I have taken a picture into the saddle tube and you can see that the bolt just created a brand. And it's not too tight, I use the torque wrench and it is tight 7.5Nm

So I would suggest everyone who has a TM 01/02 to check it, so do not get ruined your frame.





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My frame is fortunately not broken.

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The tips on this thread have really helped me setup my bike . For starters I've ordered a torque wrench to do the seatpost!

The brakes were a total PITA but after a week of playing around and sandpapering brake pads for my 808 firecrest, they actually feel pretty good (I'm using the new swissstop black prince pads which feel even better than the yellow kings).

I'm running a rotor3d crank set with a power2max power meter (a company in Germany) which has been great and more importantly matches the colour scheme.

I like the stem system, but in my normal position the stem looked like it was a King Cobra about to strike. So i bought some ADR carbon ultra bars (a UK company) which have a but-load of stack and look cool (IMO!).

I have also put some heat lagging instead of bar tape to keep the clean look - its a building supply that contracts when you use a heat gun on it.

Di2 upgrade next season - I can't take any more bike building this year, I came close to throwing the time machine out of the window once or twice!




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my frame is ok as well, always torque properly.
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Super nice! I put my computer between my shifters so I don't have to look back too far. Very pretty bike!


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I have stripped the seatpost screw of my TM01. Any suggestions? I am somehow reluctant to use a drill to remove the screws' head as it is the screw inside the frame. I'm clueless....

Any suggestions veryvery welcome!
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Took out the seatpost of the TM01 this past weekend to check the seatclamp bolt and sure enough it hit into the frame but barely tiniest little nick so I'm good to go no cracks. Cut the bolt down then put the seatpost back in and torqued it back to spec. Can't wait to hop on it for the first race this weekend.
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Where did you get that aero bottle mount bracket? I've been looking for one



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@Jezza or anyone, where is you get that aero water bottle mount? I have been looking for one.



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@Jezza or anyone, where is you get that aero water bottle mount? I have been looking for one.
Try google seach the below brands:
Elite
Profile Design
Arundel

ps: I dont have any affiliation with them...
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If you're talking about the one on the frame it's an X-lab aero bottle and mount. They're sold together. If you're referring to the mount on the aero bars between the arms, it's an X-lab Gorilla cage and I use zip ties to attach it to the aero bars. I used an X-lab torpedo mount before but one of the velcro straps broke and I didn't need to be able to take it on and off so couldn't see the point in using velcro straps. Zip are cheap and easy to take on and off anyway and the bottle cage is held in place more firmly anyway. And no, I'm not sponsored by X-lab. Not sponsored by anyone!
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Where did you get that aero bottle mount bracket? I've been looking for one
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My new BMC TM02

Love this bike.
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I found a nice offer for a 2013 TM01 frameset. The shop has two sizes available M-S and M-L. According to the dealer I'm supposed to fit better on a M-L size (I'm 5'10, and currently riding on a 56cm road frame). I checked with another shop which recommend the M-S size. Now I'm confused, what are your experience with tm01 sizes?

Thank you!
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There's no way for anyone to really know which is better without your fit measurements. Assuming you have them, they have a fit tool on their website:

http://www.bmc-racing.com/us-en/sizing-tool.html

I would start with that and see what it gives you.

FWIW, I'm 6'-1" and ride a M-L.


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I found a nice offer for a 2013 TM01 frameset. The shop has two sizes available M-S and M-L. According to the dealer I'm supposed to fit better on a M-L size (I'm 5'10, and currently riding on a 56cm road frame). I checked with another shop which recommend the M-S size. Now I'm confused, what are your experience with tm01 sizes?quote]

I went through the same dilemma as you this summer. I thought for sure I'd be on a M-L but I ended up fitting a lot better on a M-S. For perspective I'm 5'10" with around a 33" inseam. Love the TM01.
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I'm 6'2" (189 cm) and can barely fit on the M-L size frame with the UCI morphological exemption. I would recommend the M-S for you.
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I am curious as to what size I would ride. I am 5'7 with 31"inseam. I can ride a small or medium speed concept and bit properly fit with Retul fitting. I am really looking in to a TM01, but not many dealers around.
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I bought a TM02 a month ago. I'm 5'11", and the shop recommended a M-S. Got a RETUL fit and it's perfect! Love it!

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Okay I will bite on this, now I will bring it back Old School. It's not all fancy like those other great Time Machines, its not even Carbon, but my TT03 holds a special place for me its has held be up even as a super fatty and is the main reason for me losing almost 100lbs so far. Working on saving up to upgrade the components etc, but I still love this bike.





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I'm 5'11 with 31/32 inseam and was fitted on a M-L. That was the most comfortable for me and it has worked out great so far.
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Thank you everyone, the M-S size seems the more appropriate to me, too!
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What model year is the all black TM01? I notice most of the pictures of the bike have a red or blue leading edge. The one I am looking at is all black carbon.
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What model year is the all black TM01? I notice most of the pictures of the bike have a red or blue leading edge. The one I am looking at is all black carbon.

For 2012, the TM01 Ultegra came in black with grey trim. Prototypes were all black with only the BMC logo in white.

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Thanks Ken. Its on sale in my size for $4600, originally priced at $6K. I would have to sell one of my bikes but it seems like a much better deal than before.
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That's a su-weet looking bike.
I'm loving the artfully understated "BMC" outlined logo, too.
You need to hedge your lawn, though.
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I thought I should post my BMC. This bad boy got me to 1st in the AG field for an hour or so and 2nd into T2 at IMC last week.

Absolutely love this bike. Have not had any issues with the brakes or cabling that others have expressed.

Got the custom BTA holder made. 3T Brezza Ltd bars go perfect for colour - almost like they were made for the bike. Changed the pads for the Ventus, and the extenders for the Blackweel research. Slowman approved this set up in person.

O'symetric 54/42 rings, and 165 SRM DA 7800s. Garmin 500 which is the perfect colour and size for the cockpit too.

Glad I went for the white saddle, bar tape and bidons as I think it made the bike pop a bit more.

And yes I know my brother-in-law's place needs some weeding blah blah blahzzzzzzzzzzz.


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It's beautiful, but I think you should work a little bit on the cockpit, the cables are supposed to be cleaner on this bike. Just my 2cents ;)
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Yes I agree. The problem is with the Brezza bars though. The cables exit the bars a bit earlier than they should.

On race day I tape them up to the bars, and pull the Di2 wires tighter behind the bottle cage.
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Yes I agree. The problem is with the Brezza bars though. The cables exit the bars a bit earlier than they should.

On race day I tape them up to the bars, and pull the Di2 wires tighter behind the bottle cage.

I have a similar issue with the 3T Aura bars on mine. The cables exit the bottom of the wing, which leaves a noticeable amount of front brake cable exposed, marring an otherwise clean build. Newer 3T bars look like their cable exit out the back of the wing, near the stem, which would make for cleaner cabling. However, the cost and hassle of a new bar, re-cabling the bike, and then getting the brakes dialed in again just hasn't been worth-it. It might be something to consider if I ever upgrade to di2 or SRAM 22.

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Very nice.
The white bar tape and the saddle really works.
Is yours a large? And how did you come to use a 165 crank, Retul fitting session?
I'm just a little freaked right now, because last week I went for a fitting and found out I do best on a 167.5. I've been on a 175 all my life!
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I'm a bike fitter so just worked it out for myself. Yes it's a large and I'm 6'3"".

Jump on board the short crank band wagon! Toot toot!
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Awesome looking bike! What was your bike split at whistler? And did you use those same Tri- spokes?

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Thanks mate I think I was 5.05.

And used the tri spoke front, Jet disc rear.
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I was waiting for the new TM01 Ultegra Di2 (6870) to be released, but look at that paint job:



I personnally think the previous one looked better (same thing for the dura ace version). Do you know if it's still possible to order the previous frameset?
Btw, the Dura ace version now has the brezza 2 bar from 3T, I like this change.
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Hey, everyone. I need some advice/second opinion from you guys.
I took delivery of my TM01 in size M-S almost two months ago.
I am completely in love with this bike! What a ride!!
(So much so that now riding my Cervelo roadie is, I hate to say this but, a total chore. My next regular road bike might have to be a TMR). But I digress.

Tuesday last week I went in for a Retul fitting and found out I would perform much better on a size large geometry (with 167.5 crank, not the 175 I have now. The small crank train is leaving the station, indeed). Wattage increased almost 20%, left leg/right leg power output went from 45/55 to almost 50/50, much easier on the neck...you get the idea.
My mind went completely white. 'I just got this bike...I need a new frame? WHAT!'

So, my bike fitter thinks I should just switch to a large frame, rather than getting a M-L and messing around with base bar risers, etc. That makes me a little nervous, because I notice most guys on a large are in the 6'3" neighborhood. I'm a fraction under 6' with 33.5 inseam and 165lbs. It might be difficult to control a much bigger bike. Especially, since, I like riding this bike in the hills. So, I'm wondering if M-L with risers stacked up 50-60mm might be a better way for me. (The stem position for the large frame would be around 11, 5, 6 and 18 area).

What do you think?
Insights from your experiences and knowledge would be greatly appreciated.

Julius
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I'm 6ft, 175lbs, have a 33' inseam and I'm on a large TM02 with 170mm cranks. FWIW, the large is a pretty big frameset in comparison the ML, and is certainly much larger than my previous ride, which was a 55cm Quintana Roo. I used the Competitive Cyclist fit calculator and was between sizes when looking at the ML and the L. I selected the L on the basis that I wanted more space when climbing and a little more space to stretch out during the IM ride. I was tired of having my knees hitting my arms on my previous ride and needed some space to sit back and climb in a more traditional road position on hilly courses.

In terms of stability and being able to handle the bike-I've had no issues. I run a 404/808 wheel set and the bike is very comfortable and stable, even in the crosswinds on the Big Island. It's also a fast bike. I'm certainly not a weight weenie or an aero specialist, nor do I have a power meter, so this is no way "scientific evidence", but my IM bike times have improved quite substantially. My most recent IM bike split was 25 mins faster than my previous best and I shaved 35 mins off my average IM marathon time, which I attribute to being much more comfortable on the larger frame. Hope this helps.
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It does help! Thanks you.
Having similar measurements with you certainly is reassuring making this move.
I'm doing the knee kicking thing right now.
Btw, terrific improvements on your splits, congrats.
But I'm sure there was more to it than just getting a larger frame ;)
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FWIW, I thought the same thing and just ordered a 2013 TM01 with Ultegra Di2, so they are available and on sale as well.

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Similar measurments, an inch taller and 10# heavier... Taking delivery of my large TM02 this weekend, as recommended by Jim Manton at Ero Sports who fit me.
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fine looking machine!!
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I think the Brezza bars actually were made for the bike - it's so the BMC pro team can look, well, pro.

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Thanks, I've bit the bullet and have a large on hold.
I guess large isn't just for former basketball players!
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Picked mine up yesterday. From the pics I wasn't sure of the color scheme (2014 105 TM02) but damn, in person, that is an amazing looking bike.
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Congrats!
I've only seen it on the BMC site and ,ya, it's a wild color, but now that you mention it I can see it working. Could you put up a photo or two!
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Bike shop photos after the build.... unfortunately not my wheels :(






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Wait a second...Da-aang!
That is sweet!
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Man that's a sweet looking ride. I really like the simplicity of BMC. Question; I've been planning to get a Shiv but I really like the looks of these. How close is the geometry between the two. Comparing med. Shiv to M-L BMC. I've looked at the geometries but that's only comparing numbers to me. Anyone compared the two? Thoughts?
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OK this thread has me excited! I am getting my 2014 BMC TM02/Ultegra in October....
So in reading some of these posts here I am kind of getting nervous about the seat post issues....
What exactly do I need to be wary about???
Does anyone know if BMC has corrected this issue on the 2014's?
Thanks in advance....



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There's a thread re Should I Buy a Cervelo or a TM02, and someone mentions that BMC may have fixed the seat post bolt issue. I went out and bought a torque wrench just in case. Should have one anyway. You should also have the shop install a barrel adjuster for the rear brake, will make life easier. Also, appears you have to deflate the tire a little to get the rear wheel out, if you are runnign a 23mm. Uness there is an easy fix for that....

You will also need a 13mm crescent wrench to adjust the saddle, I bought a small one I can take on the road for initial adjustments on the fly.
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Very cool... ChrisM! Thanks for the update....... I appreciate it.....



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Regarding the rear tire, the easy fix is to run a tire that is not wider than the rim. For those with older narrow rim wheels (like me) this is not necessarily practical, since I don't want to run a 20 mm rear tire, but with wider rims this is easy.


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Tom Maliszewski wrote:
Regarding the rear tire, the easy fix is to run a tire that is not wider than the rim. For those with older narrow rim wheels (like me) this is not necessarily practical, since I don't want to run a 20 mm rear tire, but with wider rims this is easy.

True. I am running a DT swiss PT, wheelbuilder site says it's 19.4 mm wide. Looks like "modern" rims are 23 ish? What would you recommnend as narrowest rear tire?

I guess DT swiss is considered an older wheel?
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I just say "older" because it seems that within the past couple of years most wheel companies have made them wider.

Anyway, it's a matter of personal preference, narrow tires mean a harsher ride (due to higher pressures) and anecdotally a higher potential for flats. I've had good experience with a 21mm Zipp Tangente, but switched to a 23mm 4000S this year. As long as you remember to install the wheel BEFORE you inflate it, then it really doesn't matter if it's wider than the rim (in terms of ease of installation).


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Do you know what bb/adapter they are spec'ing the bike with to get the 105 crank into the BB30? I've got last years TM02 and would love to swap out the Vision TT crank.

Nate

P.S. I did the torque wrench and barrel adjuster upon purchase. Makes life MUCH easier.
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Is the front fork still made so that it only turns 45 degrees or so before hitting the frame? Hard to tell from the photos. That's my only gripe with mine.


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This is only true on the TM01

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The SHIV and the BMC TM0# are radically different bikes. Not just in geometry but in they way they ride. I won't say one is better or worse but it is comparing a Luxury cruiser (SHIV) to an all out no holds bar sprint bike (BMC). While one my be more efficient it is not as "comfy". Go ride them both and decide which you like. Both are great choices.

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Poseidon2600 wrote:
This is only true on the TM01

I don't know if it's 45 degrees, bt the LBS owner advised me that I won't be making any tight 180 degree turns, as there is a limit. My understanding is the TM02 is not as limtied as the TM01
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I bought a new 2012 TM01 a couple of weeks ago. I had been looking at Scott Plasma Premium, but was offered the BMC 25% off and could not pass it up especially since it was one of the bikes that matched my fit profile. Now it's time to pick up some wheels. Has anyone put Enve Smart System 8.9 carbon clinchers on their TM01? Since the front wheel is 26 mm wide I assume I have to remove a spacer on the brakes...true? What about the rear since it is only 24mm?
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I've got a 24.4 in the back with all the spacers as is. You're fine.
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I bought a new 2012 TM01 a couple of weeks ago. I had been looking at Scott Plasma Premium, but was offered the BMC 25% off and could not pass it up especially since it was one of the bikes that matched my fit profile. Now it's time to pick up some wheels. Has anyone put Enve Smart System 8.9 carbon clinchers on their TM01? Since the front wheel is 26 mm wide I assume I have to remove a spacer on the brakes...true? What about the rear since it is only 24mm?

According to the manual 26MM brake width will require all spacers removed and grinding down the brake pads. I can confirm this is correct on my 808's as well which are 26.2 MM. Manual is located her: http://www.bmc-racing.com/...and-guides-tm01.html and information is on page 27 in English.

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BTW, the 2014 105 build has a Tiagra front derailleur. Says it right there on the website specs, but I just assumed a 105 is a 105.

That said it doesn't give a lot to the wind :) (yes, it's leaning...)




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If that is an Adamo Attack, what did you use to mount the cage under it?
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HuffNPuff wrote:
If that is an Adamo Attack, what did you use to mount the cage under it?

It is, 4 zip ties. A little funky because the rail does not go back far enough, but the ties were long enough
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looks like changed the seatpost clamping mechanism. Is this their fix to prevent the frame from cracking? I wonder if that clamp is compatible to the 2012/13's
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Don't think you'll notice any difference between the Tiagra and 105 front (especially the 2013 versions - which are on that bike).

When I was bike shopping I witnessed firsthand each component being weighed (I'm waaaaaaaaay too anal for my own good). They were within .01 ounces of each other. The same weight.

Performance wise - I don't think there is a difference.

That said, my vanity had me going with a 105 regardless.
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I know practically, and at my speed, it's probably fine. But it's so..... Tiagra, you know?

I have DA front and rear DRs I will likely swap over anyway
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Hi all This is my 1st post. Glad to read all tm owners thread. It's really helpful.
My BMC TM01 Set up




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Nice!
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Never mind, figured it out
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doedoel wrote:
Hi all This is my 1st post. Glad to read all tm owners thread. It's really helpful.
My BMC TM01 Set up

Very nice. I noticed that your cadence / speed monitor has the arm down instead of up. Very good idea!

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Hi,

Do / did you have a Shiv?
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VP did you, or have you since encountered any problems with firmware integration using the old EW67-A-E junction? I'm considering doing something similar but have been cautioned by Shimano that the EW67-AE wont be getting firmware updates and is actually being discontinued.

Short of using the EW67, has anyone come up with a good way to hide the 5 port they'd be willing to share? I was a little disappointed that the new 2014's didn't make any attempt to address cleaning up the front Di2 junction, and in all their photos they just have it zip tied on the bottom of one of the aero extensions.


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Tamu8104 wrote:
Where did you put the 5-port junction box?

The 5-port junction SM-EW90-B was too bulky so I opted for a SM-EW67A-E and two extra SM-JC41's instead:



The SM-JC41's and all cables are stuffed inside the bars. You can see the SM-EW67A-E near the stem in the frontal photo.
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Still dialing in my fit so I haven't completely integrated the wiring in the cockpit. I'm also trying to find a good way to hide the 5 port junction box.


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astig wrote:
I'm also trying to find a good way to hide the 5 port junction box.

I have the 5-port junction piggy-backing on the stem cover. I have a good bit of stem rise, so this approach may not work as well on lower stack setups:




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BAG wrote:
VP did you, or have you since encountered any problems with firmware integration using the old EW67-A-E junction?
No problems with the firmware.
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Did any of you guys manage to place a Garmin 910 XT nicely while at the same time having a BTA bottle? I'm struggling with all sorts of zip ties etc across the stem spacers etc. but nothing seems to work right...
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albafar wrote:
Did any of you guys manage to place a Garmin 910 XT nicely while at the same time having a BTA bottle? I'm struggling with all sorts of zip ties etc across the stem spacers etc. but nothing seems to work right...


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ChrisM wrote:
albafar wrote:
Did any of you guys manage to place a Garmin 910 XT nicely while at the same time having a BTA bottle? I'm struggling with all sorts of zip ties etc across the stem spacers etc. but nothing seems to work right...

Speedfil z4

I concur with the Z4. Best solution out there and simple.

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Some pics from my TM-01 setup:

I am currently using a mix of Ultegra 6750 Di2 and Dura Ace. I have placed all the front cables inside the aerobar using 2 x SM-JC41 and a SM-EW67-A that I also managed to place inside the frame.






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Awesome - congrats on 1st place finish!

Would you mind telling me if you needed to do any mods to get the DI2 FD working with the QXL rings? I have had a heck of a time with the braze-on mount on the TM01 frame and my DI2 FD with QRings. I cannot even imagine how you got QXLs dialed in.
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Awesome - congrats on 1st place finish!

Would you mind telling me if you needed to do any mods to get the DI2 FD working with the QXL rings? I have had a heck of a time with the braze-on mount on the TM01 frame and my DI2 FD with QRings. I cannot even imagine how you got QXLs dialed in.

Thanks, that was a hard race.....

Rotor ships the QXL with an small adapter that replaces the fd in order to become compatible with the QXL. Its a very easy and fast setup to be honest. The hard part was to find the rings that were compatible with the DA 9000 cranks (I use a stages power meter so, could not go with ROTOR cranks). If you want I can take some pics latter of the adapter...
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Tgondii wrote:
multisport4me wrote:
Awesome - congrats on 1st place finish!

Would you mind telling me if you needed to do any mods to get the DI2 FD working with the QXL rings? I have had a heck of a time with the braze-on mount on the TM01 frame and my DI2 FD with QRings. I cannot even imagine how you got QXLs dialed in.


Thanks, that was a hard race.....

Rotor ships the QXL with an small adapter that replaces the fd in order to become compatible with the QXL. Its a very easy and fast setup to be honest. The hard part was to find the rings that were compatible with the DA 9000 cranks (I use a stages power meter so, could not go with ROTOR cranks). If you want I can take some pics latter of the adapter...

Thanks! I will contact Rotor to see if they'll sell the adapter.
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Completed my build. Tried my best to hide the Di2 box and wiring...at least from the drive side it looks clean.







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Thats a great and clean job Astig. When I was using the 5 way-junction, mine was prety much the same, but I decided to switch to the old external junction + 2 41's inside the Missile. Its a knightmare to mount the setup but it hides virtualy everything, including all junctions.

Some pics of the detailed setup + the adaptor from ROTOR in order to the fd becomes compatible with the QXL rings.

ps' sorry for the bad english guys, I am not a native speaker...





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Here is my new baby minus the trainer tire which is swapped for an 808 on race day. Not quite done yet but have been waiting to get this up here. The Quarq is coming off and being sold as I have PowerCranks and Vectors plus the fit isn't complete and hence the cables aren't hidden in the front yet.



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Has anyone been able to fit garmin vector pedals to a bmc timemachine tm02 (2012)? I have just got the pedals and they will not fit on the standard FSA Vision chainset.

I am thinking of changing the chainset, has anyone got any recommendations on what may work?

Thanks.

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jimmeebee wrote:
Has anyone been able to fit garmin vector pedals to a bmc timemachine tm02 (2012)? I have just got the pedals and they will not fit on the standard FSA Vision chainset.

I am thinking of changing the chainset, has anyone got any recommendations on what may work?

Thanks.

Jim

I have them even though they aren't shown in the picture above. Why don't they fit?

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The pod won't fit around the bottom of the crank as it is too wide. It looks like you have a different chainset. What type is it?
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It's a SRAM Red / Quarq (it is coming off as I have Power Cranks. I also have them on an FSA on my road bike. Did you watch the Garmin videos on Pod angle and spacers? Perhaps you could post a picture?

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Thanks for your help, I've sorted it now though. It appears that it doesn't actually matter which way the pod is connected to the crank (3 or 9 O'clock) . It will go on one way but not the other as the hole is not central on the crank.

Now to sort out what seems like a low reading. Having looked on the garmin forums, it looks like it's because I don't have the pedals torqued correctly.....
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Who makes that gear box on the seat tube? Or is that hydration?


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Torhans VR bottle, designed originally as hydration but modified for the flat kit
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Has anyone had an issue with their fork hitting the frame and chipping off paint? Mine has a pea sized spot on both sides with missing paint. I got it that way from the bike shop. It was new old stock and sold "as is". I have some white touch up paint from my talon that I think will match. Any thoughts on how to touch the spots up and keep it from happening again?
Thanks,
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My bmc tm02 in blue..

Thought I'd post a picture as there doesn't seem to be much on this colour scheme.
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Has anyone had an issue with their fork hitting the frame and chipping off paint? Mine has a pea sized spot on both sides with missing paint. I got it that way from the bike shop. It was new old stock and sold "as is". I have some white touch up paint from my talon that I think will match. Any thoughts on how to touch the spots up and keep it from happening again?
Thanks,
Ryan

I haven't had this issue. Do you have a picture?

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I've had the exact same happen to me. Interested to hear how you sort it.

P.
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I've had the exact same happen to me. Interested to hear how you sort it.

P.
I picked up a testors sanding kit. It comes with 5 sheets ranging from "fine" to like "ultra mega can't even tell its sand paper" fine. I sanded down the areas progressively getting finer. I finished up the areas with maguier's (sp) rubbing compound and polishing compound from the car wash drawer. I mixed some white gloss, clear enamel, and a drop of black gloss enamels to try and get as close as possible to the color. It's not exact but after a few hours of applying, wiping off and, remixing, I gave up on the perfect match and went with what I had. I picked up a very fine tipped paintbrush for the job... Like 000 or something. Also, krud cutter from hardware store is good to have because you can wipe off the paint even after is has dried for awhile. I figured it out on a whim when I realized that water wouldn't do the trick. Goo gone or something else might also work. It still needs to sit for about 48 hours to cure. It doesn't look so great right now as a blob of paint on the spots. But I think once it cures, and I sand it down and polish, I think it will look fine. I will probably cover the sites with some sort of low profile adhesive rubber disc or something I can repurpose from Home Depot.
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Can anyone tell me if this bike runs a size larger than normal? Seems to me that people around 5'10 are getting a M-L instead of a L.

Thanks.


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I would say the TM01 runs a little long. The TM02 may fit more like it should on paper, since it has a non-integrated stem/fork.

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Can anyone tell me if this bike runs a size larger than normal? Seems to me that people around 5'10 are getting a M-L instead of a L.

Thanks.

I am 6'2" and I run a ML, in fact right between and ML and an MS. I would say that the L is very big.

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That's odd because when I put my fit measurements into the BMC Sizing Tool, they have me dialed in as a L.


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I'm 6'3" and I just got a M-L. I'm hoping it's not too small. It's a year old and didn't come with the extra bar extensions. Any of you know where I can order a set?
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I'd be cautious with that size, I'm 5'11-6'0 and fit a M-L well. I've got space to tweak in all directions, but going by their fit coordinates grid, there's essentially no overlap between what the stem and extensions can achieve for a M-L vs a Large.
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6'2" and fitter put me on large. Fits beautifully.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [OZgriffiths] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in the same boat. I'm somewhere to the right of 3 or 4 in terms of stem positioning on their chart.


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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [OZgriffiths] [ In reply to ]
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But in terms of stack, you can use an aerobar riser to raise the extension bars and armrests (basebar, of course, doesn't move) to effectively fill the M-L/L gap. Profile Design bars, according to them, can be raised max. 40mm (I'm sure you can do more, at your own risk). 3t Brezza, I think, is 60mm. Hope that helps.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Moontimechaos] [ In reply to ]
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Moontimechaos wrote:
I'm 6'3" and I just got a M-L. I'm hoping it's not too small. It's a year old and didn't come with the extra bar extensions. Any of you know where I can order a set?

You can, the part numbers are in the manual. If you don't have the manual it is available via PDF on the BMC website. On other alternative. I bought two sets of stem extensions and some new bolts. I now have a stem that can extend 30 more CM if I need it!

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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Poseidon2600] [ In reply to ]
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I'm 6'2" and have a L and think it fits perfectly. In fact Slowman fitted me on a course and agreed. The trend to go on the smaller side was a furphy IMO.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Poseidon2600] [ In reply to ]
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Where can I order those stem extensions!
I'm maxed out on the reach.
Thanks
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Onpch1 wrote:
Where can I order those stem extensions!
I'm maxed out on the reach.
Thanks

Here http://www.evanscycles.com/...e-fork-tm01-ec033243

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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Tillquist] [ In reply to ]
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My local dealer was able to order them for me. Keep in mind you need to go get your own bolts as they won't come with bolts long enough.

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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [fabricatedyou] [ In reply to ]
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Is there any owner height around 5'4"? And Inseam 29"?
Is it still comfortable to adjust the TM01 for a short rider in aero position? Will a short crank at 16x mm help?

Thanks a lot, if any owner around this height could post photo of their bike would be so much appreciated.
Keen to ride on this machine, but afraid I am too short to fit with it.
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Thanks astig for the sharing. Our body size could be a lot different.

I think it might not be a proper place to ask for fitting issue with TM01. But I found that the sizing tool on BMC website is kind of difficult to use.
I have my body measured as:

Inseam
29"
Trunk
22.8"
Forearm
12.6"
Arm
24"
thigh
21.5"
Lower leg
19.1"
Sternal Notch
52.8"
Total height
5'4"

Would anyone be able to tell I still could fit in a proper aero position with this bike? Thank you a million. That would have saved me from mistake. TM01 is just too seducing and irresistible.
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I have a short torso so I have the stem at its shortest. Depending on your aerobars you can move the elbow pads back. With the pro missile evo , I was able to do that.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [astig] [ In reply to ]
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Wow, thanks for these great suggestion. I will post my bike once I could fit one nicely.
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eamonmikami wrote:
Wow, thanks for these great suggestion. I will post my bike once I could fit one nicely.

I would highly suggest you head to a reputable fitter perhaps someone who uses Guru to identify if you would fit this or any other bike. ST has some great suggestions for fitters. You can make a bike fit or you can buy a bike that fits. Your call :).

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eamonmikami wrote:
Thanks astig for the sharing. Our body size could be a lot different.

I think it might not be a proper place to ask for fitting issue with TM01. But I found that the sizing tool on BMC website is kind of difficult to use.
I have my body measured as:

Inseam
29"
Trunk
22.8"
Forearm
12.6"
Arm
24"
thigh
21.5"
Lower leg
19.1"
Sternal Notch
52.8"
Total height
5'4"

Would anyone be able to tell I still could fit in a proper aero position with this bike? Thank you a million. That would have saved me from mistake. TM01 is just too seducing and irresistible.

I am your height and I have a pad stack height of 506mm. I do not think that I could get close to that on the TM01, it is just too big. If you are spending this kind of money on a bike, you should really get a good fit before you buy one to get the dimensions you need to determine if a bike would fit. Maybe you could get the TM01 to work, but I doubt you would get a very fast position on it. They do look awesome though.

If I was you I would look at the 650c Felt DA or Cervelo NP3, both of those have very low stack heights. The new Trek SC may work, especially without the tilt hardware installed. The cervelo P5-6 will probably not work, especially if they are not selling the X-low position anymore, but the P5-3 with the right stem and aerobars may work.
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Thank you for all your advices. I will definitely find the way for fitting first before making an order.
Had tried out Trek Speed Concept 9.9 XS size today and found it so fit with me. But still hope I could be a lucky short rider for TM01, haha.
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Have you purchased from Evan's Cycle's before? Do they ship to the US?

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Okay, as I'm building up my machine, I'm curious as to the necessity of the brake noodles, especially of the ones in the rear as the functionality of the brakes seems to be nominal despite not having one.


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Hey Moon, would you mind making an update of how the M-L fits once you get it. I was thinking of getting the 2014 TM02 L but was worried it may be too small for me. I'm 6'4"
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Rags wrote:
Hey Moon, would you mind making an update of how the M-L fits once you get it. I was thinking of getting the 2014 TM02 L but was worried it may be too small for me. I'm 6'4"
I am 6'2" and the M-L fits fine. However this has more to do with your stack and reach than anything. I have a very short torso but I am very flexible. I would use the numbers on the BMC website and the measurements off your current bike for an approximation. Better go see a great fitter.

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Rags, The M-L I have was a new BMC pro team bike for a rider that's 6'5". We clearly have a different stack and reach, but I'm slowly getting it dialed in. Ordering a few stem spacers to help out, as the Easton Attack TT bar it came with is not very adjustable. I'll post a photo if and when it fits the way I want it to.
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Moon, Poseidon, Thanks for the info. Much appreciated!
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What are the thoughts for group sets on the TM01, other than the Di2 stuff? Ideally I would like Di2, but it seems to be too pricey still. Looking to build on a 2012 frame.
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brian_j_smith wrote:
What are the thoughts for group sets on the TM01, other than the Di2 stuff? Ideally I would like Di2, but it seems to be too pricey still. Looking to build on a 2012 frame.

I got Campagnolo Super Record 11 speed on my TM01

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I have SRAM Red and it's dandy.
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brian_j_smith wrote:
What are the thoughts for group sets on the TM01, other than the Di2 stuff? Ideally I would like Di2, but it seems to be too pricey still. Looking to build on a 2012 frame.

I have SRAM Red as well and it is very nice. I also got the new Zipp shift extensions and they fit the RTC shifters beautifully. One note on Di2. If you go to Ultegra you can only go to a 52 T front chain ring, DuraAce supports 55. This is a distinct difference on SRAM RED (maybe campy too) that you can go to 55.

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Great thanks for the info so far, I will look into both Campy and Sram Red…
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Does anybody knows if the frameset comes with the BB ?? I just bought a New 2013 Frame, i want to use my Di2 from the previous bike but have the BB30 problem, if the BB comes with the frame i will have to use the hollowtech adaptors, if not i could buy the praxis Works BB30 conversión, someone has used the praxis conversión in a 2013 frame ?? the guys at praxis told me that some new BMC frames use a custom AL Shell with a machined lip instead of the spec BB30 C-clips, and this custom non removable lips prevents the installation of the conversión BB, anybody ????
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Poseidon2600 wrote:
One note on Di2. If you go to Ultegra you can only go to a 52 T front chain ring, DuraAce supports 55.
Huh? I have Ultegra Di2 6770 with Rotor 3D+ and 55/42 Q-Rings, works perfectly.
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ponzi54 wrote:
Does anybody knows if the frameset comes with the BB ?? I just bought a New 2013 Frame, i want to use my Di2 from the previous bike but have the BB30 problem, if the BB comes with the frame i will have to use the hollowtech adaptors, if not i could buy the praxis Works BB30 conversión, someone has used the praxis conversión in a 2013 frame ?? the guys at praxis told me that some new BMC frames use a custom AL Shell with a machined lip instead of the spec BB30 C-clips, and this custom non removable lips prevents the installation of the conversión BB, anybody ????

My 2012 frame did not com with BB30 bearings.

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VP wrote:
Poseidon2600 wrote:
One note on Di2. If you go to Ultegra you can only go to a 52 T front chain ring, DuraAce supports 55.

Huh? I have Ultegra Di2 6770 with Rotor 3D+ and 55/42 Q-Rings, works perfectly.

The 6870 according to Shimano's documentation can only support 53 T (corrected from 52). http://bike.shimano.com/...type-.fddi_road.html

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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [fabricatedyou] [ In reply to ]
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I just picked up my brand new 2013 BMC TM02 Ultegra.... I love the bike but I was really taken back by how small the turning radius is with the cockpit bars... I am coming from a Cervelo P2 where the cockpit bars do not have any limitations which result in the ability to make tight turns...

In contrast, the cockpit bars on the BMC are limited by little stops situated on the forks..... It seems like the bike will not have the ability to make tight tuns such as the Cervelo...

Has anyone noticed this or had any issues with this? Is there anyway to get more turning radius out of this cockpit?

Or is this something I will get accustomed to?

Thanks,



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You need to go faster ;)
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It is true that there are 2 small stop.

But it is not something that limits you when you cycle and turn around in everyday.

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I think what you mean is that the radius is large rather than small. Or, alternatively, the angle by wich you can turn your handlebars is small(er than usual).

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Yes that's exactly what I mean.....



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I've had no issues.

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Thanks for the feedback.....

I just picked it up yesterday and had it next to my Cervelo when I noticed the difference between the two....

I am not sure why BMC would limit the steering capability of the bike like this? Hopefully once I go for the first ride the issue will become a non-issue quickly......

If the weather permits, I am planning on the first ride Sunday morning.....

I am excited to have FINALLY received this bike -- I have been waiting for over 9 months -- the "Smalls" are really hard to find!



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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [broncotw] [ In reply to ]
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2013 tm02. No issues with turning radius for me.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [ChrisM] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks ChisM!

I am sure it will not be an issue with me either.... Just an observation.......



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broncotw wrote:
Thanks for the feedback.....

I just picked it up yesterday and had it next to my Cervelo when I noticed the difference between the two....

I am not sure why BMC would limit the steering capability of the bike like this? Hopefully once I go for the first ride the issue will become a non-issue quickly......

If the weather permits, I am planning on the first ride Sunday morning.....

I am excited to have FINALLY received this bike -- I have been waiting for over 9 months -- the "Smalls" are really hard to find!

They do this to keep you from pinching the cables going into the brakes and coming from the stem on the TM01. On the TM02 I am not sure why.

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Thanks Poseidon2600!

I will try and get some pictures up soon......



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Poseidon2600 wrote:

They do this to keep you from pinching the cables going into the brakes and coming from the stem on the TM01. On the TM02 I am not sure why.

I think it's because of the aerodynamics of the front
- the headtube, or rather the headtube cover (integrated into the fork), is rotating rather than fixed and the limiters are preventing it from banging against the junction of the downtube and the toptube.
- the gap between the front wheel/tire and the downtube is quite small - the limiters prevent the fork from banging into the downtube
On TM02 it's just the second factor



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Great write ups!!! I hope I can contribute with some useful stuff

Brakes issue resolved :-)
Got the TM01 frame just a few days ago and while waiting for the Di2 6870 pieces I slowly started putting things together
The brakes indeed would not allow for installation of anything with a wider profile. It did not take much time to discover that these were the damn pad fastening bolts that limited the outward movement of the calipers - these things were just humongous (though about filing them or removing all together but having some time available I started poking around).

Option 1 - replacing the pad holders with spare SRAM RED ones almost did the trick but the Super-9 would have only about 1mm clearance with super old and thin pads. Super-9 is super stiff but the brakes would engage with the slightest touch of the brake levers - not good enough.
It's great to have n+1 bikes and a quick scan through them pointed me to the ULTIMATE option 2 as in the name - Avid Shorty Ultimate. Here the pads are not fastened by the bolts pointing towards the fork\seatstays (or chainstays as in the TM01 case) but rather in the perpendicular direction as in the pix below (they work with standard brake pads)


The ultimate clearance. I used only Shorty's holder casing and the rest of the original TM01 pieces. I am still using slightly used pads (Reynolds Cryo blue) and now all wide rims fit with no issue. Pixs below with new '14 Rold Prima Ares6 (27mm wide Delta Profile) front and with no front wheel







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This is some of the best work on this in a while, well done!

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Here is a picture of my new ride!!!



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Nice!


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Happy to say I'll soon be the owner of a new TM01! I'm 5'9" and I ordered a M-S. I ordered the new set of ENVE aero bars. Any advice for fitting?
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [VP] [ In reply to ]
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Please get a new skin suit. If you can afford a $10K bike then afford the appropriate skin suit.
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I haven't been on Slowtwitch in quite a long time. Much of which was because I got tired of all the Shiv and Speed Concept crap going around. When I saw this thread I got thoroughly excited so I thought I would contribute. Here is some bike porn of my personal lineup of bikes:


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flipmypancake wrote:
Please get a new skin suit. If you can afford a $10K bike then afford the appropriate skin suit.
It's our club skin suit, same model since 2012.
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flipmypancake wrote:
I haven't been on Slowtwitch in quite a long time. Much of which was because I got tired of all the Shiv and Speed Concept crap going around. When I saw this thread I got thoroughly excited so I thought I would contribute.

Amen brotha! (I will get around to posting my TM02 when it is finished.)

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Hello chaps.

I'm thinking about getting one of these, could someone answer a few questions for me?

I am looking at the medium-small model. As I am 6'1, but have very long legs and a short reach. The reach does seem ridiculously short looking at the geometry, does anyone have a picture of one? But I only want 430mm from BB to pads, so I was thinking this sounded about right.
How long is the stem on the medium small?

How long is the seatpost, I need about 750mm from BB to saddle rails.

Also, how much can you set the seat back by? I have an adamo and want about 12cm of setback from the BB to the tip of the adamo.

Thanks!
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oh and I am getting the 2013 version, what BB does it have?
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2013 version has BB30
BB center to rails with max extended seatpost is 31" (787mm); you will have no problems with seat clamp fastened in any of the 4 positions
The stem has 32 different positions and allows for reach variation of almost 65mm and stack variation of almost 80mm in size M-S (see chart below for specifics). I placed on mine Priofile Design Aeria bars and possibilities at front setup are huge!!!





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Thanks, does it come with that seat post?
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man, look up the details of the frameset before asking these kind of question. But since I am writing already - yes, it does. The frameset comes with frame and fork, seatpost, stem modules, integrated front and rear brakes, and few bits and bolts :-)

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I meant, does it come with the 'extended seatpost' as standard that you mentioned.
Don't have a go at me for asking questions like that. I cannot find on the BMC website the length of the seatpost and sometimes its just easier to ask people who have it.
I have always had to buy an extra long seatpost for each frame I have bought and I am fed up of paying another 100-200 for it when it should come standard.
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Marcell_S wrote:
I meant, does it come with the 'extended seatpost' as standard that you mentioned.
31" mentioned earlier is achieved with the original seatpost extended to its maximum (highest) allowable position.

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Definitely usefull, thanks m8!
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Thank you for the reply.
Which BB30 is it? Is it regular BB30 or the pressfit/sram type?

If regular do I just get the Bearings and have them pressed in? Does it need an outer shell or anything?
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It is BB30. You can press two bearings or install a BB30 to 'whatever' adapter and appropriate crankset.

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Thanks mate, I have a rotor BB30 crank, so I should be able to just get it straight in.

So, I just get a set like these
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/...bly-kit/rp-prod40333

and just press them straight into the frame, no sleeve or anything?
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Marcell_S wrote:
Thanks mate, I have a rotor BB30 crank, so I should be able to just get it straight in.

So, I just get a set like these
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/...bly-kit/rp-prod40333

and just press them straight into the frame, no sleeve or anything?

Correct, I should get my 3D+ crank in few days too. Too bad it has a long shaft to accommodate BBRight - in BB30 it requires spacers on each side and I believe they come with the crankset. Happy New Year!!!

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The spacers didn't come with mine.

Yes I'm moving from a bbright frame. I was trying to work out how the stance width stays unchanged with that axle, it must be the straighter arms.i think I need to change to a chainset with a more curved arm as I toe in quite a bit and my foots hitting the crank arm!
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THAT is a beautiful bike. Just needs an aero front brake (TriRig Omega).
Very nice.



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Race ready at Miami 70.3. 2:26

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nilloc wrote:
THAT is a beautiful bike. Just needs an aero front brake (TriRig Omega).
Very nice.



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Race ready at Miami 70.3. 2:26


Thanks. I have an omega sitting on the shelf that I am putting on for next season
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Marcell_S wrote:
The spacers didn't come with mine.

Yes I'm moving from a bbright frame. I was trying to work out how the stance width stays unchanged with that axle, it must be the straighter arms.i think I need to change to a chainset with a more curved arm as I toe in quite a bit and my foots hitting the crank arm!

The Q-factor is the same on all of these cranksets. BB30/PF30 width cranksets have curved crank arms (like SRAM Red); ones with the wider shaft must have flat crank arms. This also might present a problem for me as the shoes I use and really like have a bit wide carbon heel box - Gaerne G Chrono

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Yeh, I know the q-factors are the same, but as I say the arms are different.
I think I need something that has slender arms so I can toe in a bit and still have my feet as close in as possible.

My knees track very close to the toptube so I think they would prefer to have my feet inbound as much as possible.
Problem is my rotor is my powermeter!
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Hello guys, 2013 TM01, M-S frameset is on the way. LBS will use my mostly 7900 drivetrain and Brezza II to build the bike. I will be parting ways with my trusty Quarq as it was on megaexo BB on my E112. So, I am looking for a new crank. Can you provide some suggestions, where would you look, here is what I have:

1. 7900 group
2. I will not use any adapters, so need BB30 crank
3. Will likely fit it with Vector, still looking into that as I have a road bike with BB30 SLK-light and Vector has clearance issue due to crank thickness
4. I do prefer mid compact 52/36, crank length can be 172.5(current) or 170mm

What I am arriving at is either Rotor or Sram. If that is the choice, I have a few questions:

1. Sram crank and rings, shifting quality with Shimano chain and 7900 FD?

2. Does Rotor offer round chainrings, I will not do any oval or other unconventional stuff, I am old school, if not oval chainrings, which ones would you use

Questions, questions, thank you. Any ideas are welcome.
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Hello guys, 2013 TM01, M-S frameset is on the way. LBS will use my mostly 7900 drivetrain and Brezza II to build the bike. I will be parting ways with my trusty Quarq as it was on megaexo BB on my E112. So, I am looking for a new crank. Can you provide some suggestions, where would you look, here is what I have:

1. 7900 group
2. I will not use any adapters, so need BB30 crank
3. Will likely fit it with Vector, still looking into that as I have a road bike with BB30 SLK-light and Vector has clearance issue due to crank thickness
4. I do prefer mid compact 52/36, crank length can be 172.5(current) or 170mm

What I am arriving at is either Rotor or Sram. If that is the choice, I have a few questions:

1. Sram crank and rings, shifting quality with Shimano chain and 7900 FD?

2. Does Rotor offer round chainrings, I will not do any oval or other unconventional stuff, I am old school, if not oval chainrings, which ones would you use

Questions, questions, thank you. Any ideas are welcome.

Hi, Good deal on the setup.
I've used SRAM Red cranks quite a bit and I think they are super solid - the only questionable thing will be the interesting look of combined SRAM and Shimano :-). I have always used them with KMC X10SL chains. I am now getting ROTOR 3D+ with oval rings (round rings are 100% available). The 3D+ has already arrived at my LBS and I'll be pickinng it up tomorrow. It will go straight on the ceramic BB30 bearings. I might post some pixs/comments within next few days.

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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Tiremaniacs] [ In reply to ]
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I am wanting to mount a BTA style cage on the TM01 stem and was wondering if anybody had any clever ideas how I can do this (other than cable ties which will mark the surface)?
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [ponzi54] [ In reply to ]
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I was able to fit a PraxisWorks conversion BB30 on my bike without any additional parts.


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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [corduroy] [ In reply to ]
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How ????? my 2013 Frame came with some non removable lips that avoid the installation of the conversión BB i had to buy some adaptors.
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You can use a rubber mallet to hammer the cup in.


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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Marcell_S] [ In reply to ]
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Am I right in thinking that with these BB30 bearings I just put the clips in then hammer the bearings straight into the frame?
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Am I right in thinking that with these BB30 bearings I just put the clips in then hammer the bearings straight into the frame?
Yes, with hammering part not taken literally :-)

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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Tiremaniacs] [ In reply to ]
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Really, thats normally how I put bearings in? piece of wood and a hammer!
Never had one go wrong yet! approx 10 done!
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I hear you. One might assume that they will line up against the spring rings perfectly and be all in-line - and perhaps it's not the assumption. Also that banging against the fragile carbon frame makes me nervous. Maybe I am too cautious but with 4 bikes (BB30 and PF30) and BB changed at least once per year in each - the cost of the tool is not that bad ($50 or so)

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Yeh, I should get a tool really, but to be honest I've raced for years on a carbon 29er off huge jumps and big crashes and I have no bother about a bit of banging on carbon!
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I hear you. In normal ops carbon is strong as it's designed for loads in these directions. But I've crashed at the races few times on carbons and all good so far - loads definitely in non standard directions :-). Two guys told me that the TM01 frames are especially fragile. One of them cracked the frame when tightening FD. Indeed, I did see the seattube carbon flexing when mounting the FD. Cheers

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I think it's when you start cutting into the carbon is when you'll encounter problems. The hammering shouldn't be an issue.


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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [corduroy] [ In reply to ]
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Does anyone know which 'version?' of DI2 Ultegra a 2012 BMC Race Machine RM01 has? IE 6700?
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [fabricatedyou] [ In reply to ]
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With the TM01 what angled spacers did you get?
I appear to have 2 that are the same, not sure which one its supposed to be 30 or 10 deg, but I want to get the bars lower and its not doing the job.
Its the less tall version if that makes sense!
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Are you referring to the stem?


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yep.
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I think there are three spacers. You can refer to the installation manual on their website for help.


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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [corduroy] [ In reply to ]
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Well there are supposed to be 2 angled 10 deg and 30 deg and 3 spacers.
I have 2 angled ones that are both the same! And I think I need the other one!
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Marcell_S] [ In reply to ]
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Meaning you don't have the 30 or the 10? Ask your dealer or go to a dealer and order the other one. The manuals are here: http://www.bmc-racing.com/...als-and-guides-tm01/, grab it identify which one you don't have and note the part number (page 30). Don't forget you can flip the stem. Page 6,7 and 8 are very helpful to see the different configurations possible.

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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [fabricatedyou] [ In reply to ]
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Anyone have issues with the bolt that holds the front cover for the brakes? Mine is too long and rubs against the front tire.


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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Zoom_zoom_Ben] [ In reply to ]
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I also have the BMC TM01 and I am having some fit issues, mostly on longer rides my lower back (mostly left side) starts hurting after 2:30 or 3:00 mostly with headwinds and not climbing rides. I am wondering how I can raise the aerobars/armpads up or back more, my bike seems to have the biggest spacer in the front headset and I also tried spacers below the armpads but that didn't work and my lower back still hurts. What about risers ? Has anyone had any luck with that?
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a lot of that depends on the aero bars you are using and how adjustable they are. Some allow more fore/aft adjustment. Some accommodate risers better than others. If youre at the minimum on fit, you may have needed a smaller size.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Zoom_zoom_Ben] [ In reply to ]
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I am on a small. I am 5'6" and have long legs and a short torso. I think it's the right size just that my front end is too far away and low down and I don't know how to bring it closer or higher. I have the T2 profile design cobrawing aero bars.
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Assuming you meant viper wing. The bracket for the armrests is integrated with the clamp on bracket. If you want your pads further back you could switch to this bracket to mount the armrests and bars more aft of the basebar. Then use these to raise the bars up. BMC TM01 are great as long as you arent on the ends of the fit spectrum for a size. They have a lot of fitting options in the mid range but not as much if you need more or less than originally intended.
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haven't been around the forum for a while. just dropped by and saw this thread, so here's some shots of my tm02. hasn't had a chance to hit the roads but i've been on the trainer for a month or so getting it dialed in...a big improvement over my tt02. btw, i'm 5'11" and opted for the size m/s. works fine for me.





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you may have been better on the med/short. the odd sizing range on the time machines confuses a lot of people. the small is actually longer (more reach) than the med/short and has a shorter head tube (less stack). i was having trouble deciding between the small (it had the right reach for me) and the med/short (a little shorter but higher stack). the medium/long would have been too long. i went with the med/short and got a 120 stem to replace my 100. it worked out fine and i know i would have had trouble with the shorter head tube on the small. i would have had a shorter stem and a big stack of spacers under it.

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I know I was thinking the same thing and asked my LBS, but they insisted that I was a true small. I think I am going to need to fix the situation with risers/spacers or moving around the aerobars and fixing the positioning myself since Retul (20 times at least for my re-fitting) has been a waste of time.
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i was replying to aimee17, who stated that the size small put the put the bars too far away and too low. the med/short would bring the bars closer (shorter reach) and higher (taller stack), possibly solving the dilemma. if you (ahaftel7) are having the same issue (or are the same person), then the same applies. this is a quirk of the bmc sizing system...the small is actually a medium with a short head tube and the med/short is a small with a tall head tube. check the sizing chart and you'll see. retul is a measuring tool/ fitting system, so going through the process 20 times should produce the same result. not being able to achieve that fit on your bike indicates that the frame may not be one that can produce the proper fit. retul, like any tool, is only as good as the person using it.

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from an earlier post. using figure 1-4 will achieve the tallest, closest bar positions possible. looking at the chart, you can see that the med/short frame (pink) will give you a range of much higher stack and shorter reach than possible with the size small (green).



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Yes I have seen this chart with the appropriate spacers, I even requested BMC send me the additional spacers, but how do I know that my bike uses the #1 - #4? I think that I have it on the highest spacer setting, but how can I be sure?
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post a picture of your stem setup. the frameset includes two different angled spacers and two different thicknesses of neutral spacers. the pics on the supplied chart show the various combinations that can be used. #1-4 are the tallest/closest combinations that can be assembled. your frame can use any of these combinations, depending what you are trying to achieve. the other chart (with the colored dots) shows where the various combinations fall on a stack/reach chart (bb-bar clamp). a pic of your current setup, along with an explanation of what you are trying to do, would help.

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My problem is that after riding 2:30-3 hours my lower back (mostly left side) hurts, this only happens in aero position mostly on flats not climbs. I've tried adjusting a few things, RETUL at least 8x, moving my bike seat back and forth, up and down slightly.

I'm trying to put the spacers under the aero bars in order to make the aero bars either higher up or closer in reach to me. I will also take a picture of me on the bike so you can see my setup in another email.

ANY IDEAS of how to fix this?





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looking at your pics (from what i can tell on my phone), it appears you are using position #1. trying #2, 3, or 4 will raise your bars but also move them further away. it looks like you have lots of room to move your seat forward (also raise it slightly if you do this). that would open up your hip angle, reducing stress on your lower back, and move you closer to the bars. i'd also see if there is a way to move the elbow pads on your bars back. if so, you could move the extensions back the same amount. i repeat that you probably should be on the med/short instead of the small, but try these things to see if they help.

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If this doesn't work anyone willing to trade me a Medium/Short for my Small? I have a TM01
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Sounds like your core muscles are getting tired, I would do some core-specific excercise off the bike and see if that helps.
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Yes I've been doing lots of core exercises. I have a 12 pack now! It's not the core that's the weak link...I think it's the fit.
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Aimee I would echo the move the seat forward comment and go to a higher stem (2,3,4). You may also wish to go to a set of elbow pads that can come back further. Zipp Vuka are very good at this.

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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Poseidon2600] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for al if the suggestions. I put the spacer on the stem last night, the flat one that's not quite an inch in width, in addition to already having the 30 degree angle spacer. My back felt fantastic I was in Aero position for a shorter ride, 1:40. Not one back problem at all! We will see how it feels for my long ride this weekend. Now I can go ahead and tweak my seat position to be a bit closer to the front - aero bars.

Now I just have to figure out if this larger flat spacer works best or if the shorter one works.

What would your suggestions be? Trial and error? I can try to take a picture of my position on the bike although without a trainer it might be difficult ;)
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Just for reference My stem was in position #1, this position is the one where my lower back hurt for every ride over 2:30. Just moved the stem to #3 - rode today and my back felt great no problems whatsoever. I'm debating whether #2 will work better it's still more aggressive than #3.

Any ideas?
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You have to balance aero with race distance. I primarily do sprints so comfort is less important.

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don't make multiple changes at the same time when trying to solve fit problems. then you won't know what helped and what did not. ride for a week or so with stem set at #3. if pain doesn't return move seat forward 1cm and raise it .5cm. ride for a week. still feel good? try stem set #2 for a week. if back pain doesn't return try the seat forward another cm and up a bit. somewhere along the way you can check your elbow pads. those profile pads have multiple holes to adjust fore/aft. position them as far back as you can and move the extensions back the same amount. if any change results in more back pain go back to previous setting. it sounds like this will work out if you're patient and take it one step at a time.

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Makes sense to me, glad to find a position that works for my back after spending so much on my bike! I think the small is the right size too, idiots at the bike shop just didn't want to work with the spacers for some reason and kept moving my seat back and forth instead.
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Which saddle bags do you guys use? I have my seat (fizik arione) on the -21 offset and slammed forward. I find that none of my saddle bags have enough strap to attatch to the seat. There isn't enough room to shove a spare tube under the seat.
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Which saddle bags do you guys use? I have my seat (fizik arione) on the -21 offset and slammed forward. I find that none of my saddle bags have enough strap to attatch to the seat. There isn't enough room to shove a spare tube under the seat.

No bag. Torhans frame VR aero bottle cut down and tube etc in there.
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I just got a TM-01/Ultegra Mechanical as well. Here are my initial impressions:

Building this was incredibly difficult.
- First off, how the heck did you get that cover that goes over the front fork/head tube area around those cables? It seems to me that the only way to get the cables flexy enough is to upgrade to Nokon or Alligator or the new Jagwire.
- Secondly, I totally agree on the brakes. The front noodle was so dang tight. With the rear brakes, you have to remove the crankset to adjust the pads; let me say that again-you have to remove the GD crank to adjust the brakes! Thank goodness for Hollowtech cranks & how easy they are to remove. Regarding cable adjusters, they are a must or use a brake lever like the the Bontrager Race XXX Lite which has a built-in cable adjuster and a return spring.
- Thirdly, dialing in the dropouts is a PIA. On the first ride the wheel shifted to one side and was rubbing the whole time. I couldn't figure out why it took so much effort when out of the saddle. The fix was putting the dropouts in the minimum position, flush with the frame. Of course, this required re-aligning the brake pads, which meant removing the crank...(see #2)
- Finally, figuring out the friggin stem configurations was like doing origami. In the end, I appreciate the flexibility but, wow!
I spent 4 long nights putting this rig together.

11-speed/10-speed
This is a 2014 that came with 11-speed. My "stable" of bikes and bike crap, er, components, are a mix of 9- and 10-speed and I have a lot of $ invested in 10-speed cassettes and wheels. I like being able to swap components among the bikes so I wanted to convert this bike to 10 speed. To this end-I swapped the shifters for SRAM 10-speed and put on wheels with 10-speed cassettes. Meanwhile, kept the 11-speed front&rear derailleurs and the chain. I had to reduce the width adjustment on the rear D but, remarkably, it all works pretty flawlessly and is very silent. There is only a slight skipping on the 19 tooth cog. Yeah, yeah, I'll replace the chain with a 10-speed but I am amazed that it works at all in the first place. I also think the "big 3"-Shimano, Campy, SRAM, create artificial reasons to upgrade and make a big deal out of non-backwards-compatibility.

But it looks Cool!
This all said, at the risk of getting flamed, how f'ing cool does this bike look? Even though the design is in it's 3rd year it is still stunning.
It also feels very fast; it gives an effortless sensation of speed and is plenty stiff in the rear end for climbing.
I was riding with a friend this past weekend; he was on a Cervelo P2. He weighs 15 lbs more. We were going down a hill; I was coasting while he was continuing to pedal. We were at the same rate of speed. Wow.
The one irritant though-around 25 mph, it creates a whistling noise; have any of you experienced that?

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Great build!

No whistling here. Just go faster :)

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The one irritant though-around 25 mph, it creates a whistling noise; have any of you experienced that?

Happens on mine too. I noticed the other day there's a second hole right by the stem located on the head tube of the bike. I'm assuming that it is for Di2 since all the TM01 frames are set for both Di2 and mechanical. I put electrical tape over the hole and now there's no more whistle. I'll try to get a pic up if that explanation seems confusing at all.
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@subydude88-that would be sweet if you could put a pic up!
Thanks!
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Congrats, looks awesome! I am a new owner as well but I had bike shop do the build, it is mechanical 10sp DA. Regarding the cover you talk about, I will have pictures when I get home in 5 days, I have Brezza II, the shop left my 10mm pedestal for arm pads, that elevated pads higher and the extensions where cables exit, also, my extensions go further back and all this together makes a lot of bending in the cables so with intended openings in the stem for cables, shifting quality was poor. We opted for now to route the cables in a way to be able to cover them but hey had to cut a piece of cover off.......Pictures will show this way better.
I hope to drop pads lower, move extensions a bit forward and be able to use the intended holes for cable routing. Again will post pictures and have you all chime in with suggestions.
Love the bike, agree with all you described, I came off 2008 E112.
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Here's the pic. Sorry about the poor lighting and the flash. After looking at it more and more it looks like the hole is for the rear brake cable; on the other side I have the front cable. Who knows you can kinda see in the pic that I just have the rear brake cable going through the cover then down the down tube. Either way thats where I think the whistle comes from regardless of having cables in both of the holes or not.
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The hole is for the front brake. For those who prefer having their front brake on the right (motorcycle riders and Brits).
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You rock! Thanks for supplying the pic and clarifying. Strip of electric tape is now applied; can't wait to see if this solved it!
Thanks again.
Man, it takes a village to figure this stuff out, doesn't it?!
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Very nice build. I have a TM02 and am looking to replace the stock crank with an Ultegra. What bottom bracket/adapter did you use? Any creaking issues?

Thanks!
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It came stock with an FSA press-fit bottom bracket and Ultegra cranks. The Ultegras are beautiful.
The crank arms are 170 though; I prefer 175's so I swapped them for 10 speed version Dura Ace cranks.
They slip right in. No noise or anything.
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Question to those of you that have flown with a TM01.

What case did you use, and how did much dismantling/reassembling did you do?

After building one, I really don't want to have to go through all that brake business very often...
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I have flown with the TM01 using the Evoc Bike case. Removed the wheels, seatpost plus saddle and the aerobar. In the Evoc case its sufficient if the bar just hangs loose. Aerobar can be tricky if the cables are super short. Didnt tamper with the brakes at all.

Don't forget to bring a torque wrench, i forgot mine and bolted the seatpost with way to much torque, which resulted in the screw to be worn out.
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Really nice looking bike there, love the white accents with the white HED logos.

Here's mine, recently all dressed up for IM Melbourne.
Ultegra Di2 10sp. Stock in most ways eg bars / cables / etc, Ultegra pedals.
Torhans frame bottle for concentrated nutrition, Speedfil A2 for BTA hydration, salt stick next to the bars because it wouldn't fit inside
Poly pipe-based computer mount between the bars in front of the Speedfil.
Boyd front wheel, home made disc cover on a DA 7850 rear wheel (I realise the mismatch of a $$ bike with a $50 home made disc!) with skinny light weight QR's for bling / aero
Flat kit is CO2, chuck and spare tube crammed under the seat, with the Caffe Latex on the seat post.
I've got no idea how much it weighs, but I know its not winning any weight-weenie awards.



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Do tell how you made the custom disc wheel cover!
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Was pretty much the same as other folk have discussed on here, got some ABS sheeting from a local shop which cut it to the basic circle diameter and put one slit along the radius. Curve it to fit the cone shape, mark out how much of a wedge needs to be removed, then you can start cutting. Because the DA rear hubs have the lumpy flanges rather than circular, I removed bits of plastic to help it fit in closer and also stabilises the cover against rotation. What I worked out was attaching the cover sheets to the wheel while you're sorting out gluing it makes for a better and more stable fit. So just do that part one side at a time. I put little strips of off-cut plastic across the join line as reinforcement. This probably destabilises it a little, but not enough that I've noticed it. The glue is just from any big hardware store. The little gold things are post-screws, similar to the wheel-builder ones, available from craft stores, they're usually used for book binding. Double-sided tape at a few points on the rim to hold it down more securely since the shallow rim doesn't give space for any other tape. I've tried double-sided tape on the spokes and its very hit-and-miss.

I'm planning on trying to make another one from thin polypropylene sheets (can be got from craft stores, an A1 size sheet should be enough for one side of a 24-30mm deep rim) since it'll be much lighter, just will need to experiment with different glues and bonding. I'll let you know how that goes.
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Nice! Here's its little brother ready for 2014





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Very clean, very nice! Good luck for the season, that torhans bottle really is a great fit on the frame. Do you use it for a flat kit or nutrition?
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OZgriffiths wrote:
Very clean, very nice! Good luck for the season, that torhans bottle really is a great fit on the frame. Do you use it for a flat kit or nutrition?

Thanks. Torhans is for the flat kit, i don't like the look of stuff behind the saddle
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Here's an update:
- Combining 10 & 11 speed didn't fully work out. I ended up staying with 10-speed. SRAM shifters and SRAM Force rear derailleur, though kept 11-speed Ultegra front derailleur.
- Cried Uncle and had Palo Alto bikes wrench on it to dial in the brakes, add in-line brake cable adjusters, and, don't laugh, but install drop bars and first gen Ultegra brake levers. I am a pathetic descender and train in the coastal hills of the SF Bay Area; aero base bars just don't feel secure enough to me while descending. Plus, my two favorite races are Wildflower and Donner Lake, both of which have gnarly descents.
Regardless, PABikes did a sweet job and braking and shifting are excellent.
Additionally:
- Got a Hed Jet FR disc; it just arrived. I am amazed at how seamless the joint looks.
Finally figured out how to post picks with the new Flickr interaction






- Twain

PS: pretty cool that the Triathlete Buyer's Guide features the BMC TM-01 on the cover!
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First ride out.

Ultegra Di2 11speed
Power2max Rotor osymmetrics
Adamo Prologue
HED Corsair E
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Looks fantastic!
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Just taken delivery of new TM01 frameset and about to embark on a build. Looking through the manual there is ref to installation of rubber grommet (step 14 on cable routing in the manual) into the frame when routing the Di2 cableing for the front mech. Can anyone confirm if this should have been with the bits that came with the frame as I cannot see it, obviously the frame comes with rubber grommet in already but this has no hole for the cable.

Many Thanks
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Just picked up my '14 TM02. Still have some set up to do, but I'm racing it this weekend!
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Very nice & smart build! Good luck at the race!
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Did you watch the DVD install video? It's much more detailed than the paper manual.
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Thanks Twain I will do that as I had wrongly assumed it was just another copy of the manual !
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Hi all lurker for ages and finally pulled the trigger on a 2014 TM01 frameset. I have checked through the manual and watched the DVD cannot work out what the three rubber pipes and the long sticky back plastic strip are for (see attached picture below) . Any pointers would be much appreciated. The only clue I have managed to find thus far is on the BMC official website there is a picture of a frameset with one of the pipes looking like it is emerging from the cavity where the rear break cable emerges from the frame (http://www.bmc-racing.com/...e/tm01/dura_ace_di2/). but this only accounts for one ?? Any help would be very much appreciated.






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The teeth on the front are awesome.

Pics are great of everyone's bike. I LOVE this bike! Keep em coming
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I have to say, these are very difficult to build. I think it's time to go to a shop!
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Ok so I got a free chainstay protector but please please someone put me out of misery on where and how these three tubes are deployed .......... someone must have used them ??
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Check the DVD install video.
But they are likely the internal cable routing "holders" for the front & right derailleurs and rear brake.
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I've lost the rubber grommet that covers the seat post adjuster on my tm02. Does anyone know where to get a replacement in UK?

If someone could measure the grommet and let me know the dimensions (a, b and c in diagram below) it would be really helpful in finding a replacement. I wish I had measured mine before I lost it!




Edit: I've managed to get the measurements now. In case it's any use to anyone else they are: a: 14mm, b: 5mm, c: 10mm.

First question still stands though, anyone know where to get a replacement?!
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Hi, about to stick di2 onto a TT01. Don't have the frame yet, just trying to get prepared, so wondering if there is a way to mount the internal battery in the same space as the external one. I like the idea of not having to open the flap and get the battery out to charge it. It also seems to be easier to update firmware with the internal battery. (I think) thanks for your help!
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I have the TM01, I changed to an internal battery from the external type for the reason you mentioned. It just goes in the same opening towards the downtube. I just added some foam to keep the battery from moving around.
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Thanks for that. Another question. Would I have to remove the bottom bracket to do the wiring? Apologies if this is a dumb question!
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No need to remove the bottom bracket. The BB area is very accessible once you remove the battery compartment cover.
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Finally got good pictures now that the weather is good. Race wheels aren't on (808 tubular) but nice to finally have it outside!





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Hello BMC folk! Just wondering if i could get a bit of guidance. My Current bike is the 2012 P2 (stack of 512, reach of 418 in a 54) and unfortunately, i run all the spacers and the upturned stem. The only thing i have done is lopped off a spacer and put a riser kit under the pads. I am on the lookout for a new bike and came across an ultegra tmo1 2014 di2 in my price range when i thought it wasnt going to be. So my knowledge of BMC bikes is not great. My questions, i see the M/L is the same reach (i ride a 54 in the p2 and am all legs but i assume since i can ride the p2 i can ride a m/l) with minimal stack height difference (BMC = 515).
Based on all this, would i assume a BMC would only be made to fit with a very high front end? Im guessing the tm01 is a long and low type of bike, thus probably not a great fit for me since my p2 isnt ideal and has been made to fit somewhat? Im just curious as to how a bmc would look at 'full front end stack'. Apologies to the above person but i really dont want to be perched that high. Should i look elsewhere? The shop i was going to buy the bike from isnt local i would need it shipped so it would be bought sight unseen
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No idea how big your stem is or where your seat is in relation to things, but....


IMO, the M/L Time Machine is basically the same fit as a 54 Cervelo P*.

For the same reach and higher stack, a large Trek Speed Concept or large Specialized Shiv *might* be a better start.

It's not a good deal if it doesn't fit. The integrated stem of the TM01 will look like a cobra ready to strike once it's dialed in for the pad stack.
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yeh thought this might be the case....spewin, i love the look of them.
Interesting you say size large. I always thought being 178cm i would be on a medium on just about everything.
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Well, that's going solely off of frame stack and reach on an existing frame. If your reach is fine (with your seat where you want it and a reasonably sized stem) then it may be as simple as finding that similar frame reach with a higher stack and swapping over existing parts. Not many things are ever that simple though :-)

Those larges are a few mm longer, but their mediums are several more mm shorter. Again, that's just frame stack and reach. I have no idea where your pads and seat are and if your current setup is even a good one for you.

There's lot of good fitters using good fitting systems. It's better to pay one of them some money and find a bike you love and ride well. You might learn a bit about yourself too.

Retul Frame Finder has a lot of the major brands' tri bikes in a little bit more easier to read format than the ST S&R database.
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I think a 54 P2 is closer to an "M" BMC.
I ride/rode a Scott Plasma, Fuji D6, and Cervelo R3, and Cervelo S3 in a 56. Using the BMC M/L.
The top tube is slightly longer with the BMC relative to the Fuji.

I'm 5'11 as well.

Hope that helps
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I'm on the fence about building up a Felt DA (2013) or TM01. Just wondering if anyone has considered the Felt and if they decided against for any specific reason?

#KISPERFORMANCE
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Hi guys,

some months ago I bought a second-hand 2012 TM01 black/blue. I am very happy with the bike but recently I have changed the set up of the front end and I have found this:



I am not sure whether the appearance of the bolts threads is normal or it has somehow be reworked by the original owner due to some problem. What I see is that when installing the angled spacer piece, it does not get in contact completely with the fork contact surface, and because of that the bolts loosen from time to time. Can you please confirm whether your TM01 fork contact surface is similar to the one of my photo?. I would appreciate some photos... Do you use thread locker like Loctite 242 for this bolts?.

I am thinking on removing all the material around the bolts threads so that there is no material standing out the fork contact surface, but first I want to be sure about how it is in other TM01s.

Thanks for your help.
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That looks dangerous; would not ride until that piece is replaced completely, it that is even possible.
It looks like they were over tightened and somehow were backed out a bit, then sheared off.
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I was considering a felt but got a great deal on the BMC so that pretty much shut out any other possibility. Had the BMC not been an option I would have gone with a felt.
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Finally got mine the way I want...

Race ready for St. George.

Regards,

CB
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ProudMOPer wrote:


Finally got mine the way I want...

Race ready for St. George.

Regards,

CB

How did you attach the Torhans bento box?

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Update to the bike for the 2014 race season. Picked up a good deal on a Reynolds 72/90 set from the forums.
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I used double sided tape. I have since removed it, because sweating on the trainer all winter lifted the tape.

The flat top allows for some creativity. I am going to try some aluminum tape with 2 screws pointing up to bolt into the bento. If it work, I will post pics.

CB
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Can somebody share the saddle clamp torque spec and can you even use a torque wrench of some kind to access below the saddle. Had to move the saddle and tightened it by feel, just want to know if torque wrench would be required here and if so how........It is metal on metal, clamp on rail, however the anchor for the bolt maybe inside the carbon seat post......Thanks.
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Hey guys and ladies. Has any one had any problems with 808s or a 900 disk on a TM01 or TM02? I am looking at a few options for my TM02.
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Finally was able to get some good pictures of the bike now that the weather has turned to summer.

Bike was originally spec'd with 105 but was able to negotiate some upgrades that include:
  • Ultegra front and rear derailleur
  • Trimax crank
  • Profile design T4+ aero extensions
  • Metro vision shifters
I also upgraded saddle to Specialized Sitero (which I have loved for the first 500+ miles).



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Hey man - this is what mine looks like. I'm not sure what's going on with yours. I suppose you actually have to get a new fork to remedy that bit... don't see how else that can be cleaned up. The key thing is if it holds the bolt. It sounds like you've been riding it for a while without knowing that it's there right?




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You are right azurebl911, I have probably been riding riding it as it is now for a while without noticing the problem. I ordered last week a new fork, and it will arrive to my local shop at the end of this week. It is the only way to be completely sure of riding safe again.

Thanks !
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Good! That definitely looked unsafe!
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Can I ask how much a fork goes for ?
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Around 400€
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Hopefully you haven't been asked about this later on in the thread, but I don't get how this works? The screws on the original pad holders don't seem to be getting in the way.
Are the pad holders a lower profile or something?
Hopefully I'm just missing the point and these are the best solution still?
Cheers.
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I am not sure of understanding you completely... As it is now it is not possible to get full contact between the angled spacer piece and the fork, and because of that the bolts loosens frequently. In my opinion, the original owner of the bike reworked the pad holders because he used too much torque to tighten the bolts, and now the reworked pad holders are not working as they should...
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VP wrote:

Finally finished after 8 months and a week.

Frameset: BMC Timemachine TM01 M-L
Front wheel: FFWD F9R DT 240s
Rear wheel: FFWD Disc
Front derailleur: Shimano Ultegra Di2 FD-6770
Rear derailleus: Shimano Ultegra Di2 RD-6770
Shifters: Shimano Dura-Ace Di2 SW-9071
Brake levers: Shimano Dura-Ace Di2 ST-9071
Cables and housing: Gore RideOn Low Friction
Brake pads: SwissStop FlashPro Yellow King
Aerobars: PRO Missile Evo
Saddle: Prologo Nago EVO TTR
Crankset: Rotor 3D+ MAS 172.5 mm
Chainrings: Rotor Q-Rings Aero 55/42
Bottom bracket: Rotor BB30 Steel
Cassette: Shimano Ultegra 6700 11-23
Chain: Shimano Dura-Ace 7900
Tires: Veloflex Record
Pedals: Speedplay Zero SS
Bottle: Elite TT (not pictured)
Chain catcher: Rotor
Garmin mount: Custom
Sensor: Garmin GSC-10

8530 g without the Garmin.

That's a beautiful build, mate! Do you by chance have advice for the length of wires needed for the frame? I'm specing out a Ui2 6870 build myself and would really appreciate the info!

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azurebl911 wrote:
Do you by chance have advice for the length of wires needed for the frame? I'm specing out a Ui2 6870 build myself and would really appreciate the info!
I used 1 x 1000 mm from stem to BB, 1 x 600 mm from BB to RD and 2 x 300 mm from BB to battery and BB to FD.
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Thank you so much, mate! From the front junction to the shifters you didn't need to buy separate wires, correct?

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azurebl911 wrote:
From the front junction to the shifters you didn't need to buy separate wires, correct?
No, those wires came with the shifters.
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jandercito wrote:
You are right azurebl911, I have probably been riding riding it as it is now for a while without noticing the problem. I ordered last week a new fork, and it will arrive to my local shop at the end of this week. It is the only way to be completely sure of riding safe again.

Thanks !

Hey man, just out of curiosity, how much did the new fork cost you?

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400€. Just received it today...
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Hi!

I am Stephan from Frankfurt, Germany.
My first post here, but this thread helped me to make the decision to switch from my Fuji D6 to a BMC machine, so I would like to share the result. It took a while until everything was set up, but now I am on the road with it and it'ss just great.
For this season I am set up, for winter I have to go more into details like stem position, aero bars, cabling at the front.


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Well done Stephan!

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You over tightened the seat tube clamp. When you do the bolt pushes in to the bottom of the top tube near the joint with the seat tube. Im guessing there is a little bump on that diagonal piece at the joint right? How safe it is depends on how much the bolt caused a protrusion. Ive known another person who did the same thing and had a small pimple like bump, but it didnt break through the carbon. That bike is and continues to be fine. Its a redundant area thats really only there to accommodate the seat post clamp. That being said, it all depends how hard you pushed the bolt through... realistically you are fine though.

Lesson: Go buy a torque wrench. Torque specs are on there for a reason.


Good info, but I promise my cracked (under the seatpost binder) frame has never been over 5nm because a Ritchey torque key is the only thing that fits in there properly.

Neither of my torque wrenches have a small enough head to go after the bolt straight on and I don't trust the ball head bits for that work. That being said, I didn't figure it would affect anything and have been riding it (with a smaller bolt) for the last year. After the steerer cracked at a race last weekend, I'm thinking I'm done with the 2012 Time Machine. I hope all of you have much better luck.
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"After the steerer cracked at a race last weekend, I'm thinking I'm done with the 2012 Time Machine. I hope all of you have much better luck. "

What happened and how?
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I just finished building up a 2013 thanks to all of you.

Can I safely fit 25mm tires? (specifically continental gp4000s clinchers)

The front looks fine, the rear is very tight.
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Hi TM. I really like your drop bar setup. You know your stuff and I still remember the Cervelo Diet features quite well.


twain wrote:


What happened and how?


Well, nothing happened and I thank God for that. Seriously. Think of the absolute worst place to have a frame/fork failure. It's right there. Since when does carbon crack at a high torque junction and not blow up completely?

After a local Oly, my front end felt like the headset somehow loosened up because I could move the stem/bars a little. I took off the stem and two spacers below to adjust the headset and thought I saw a crack at the front of the steerer. Raising the top cap confirmed that it was cracked most of the way across the front. There has never been a stem clamped within 2cm of that crack. The front seems kind of weird too because I would think the force would pull it down and forward and stress the back of the steerer more.


Anyhow, I flipped out for a while and took a picture with a cell phone and blue flashlight. Luckily I didn't eat pavement and a new frame is coming in. All is well. I'm pretty unsure about building or selling though.

It's kind of a bummer to be the guy that has read this entire thread multiple times, thought I came up with a cool rear brake solution that I needed to photograph and share, and then when I finally post to this thread it's pretty negative. Again, I hope any other owner has a completely difference experience.

Goodbye 2012 TM02

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"Luckily I didn't eat pavement and a new frame is coming in. All is well. I'm pretty unsure about building or selling though"

Man, that was a close one! But it looks like it is going to be warranty'd, right? That's sweet. Selling it, might be best to ask BMC or the LBS what to do. Sadly, might be safer to "throw it out".

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TM,

You're right, no trying to sell busted stuff. This warranty process involved sawing off a chainstay and submitting the picture. What a weird feeling sawing off part of a relatively high end frame! She will go in the trash shortly.
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That is sad. Carbon waste.

"thought I came up with a cool rear brake solution that I needed to photograph and share, and then when I finally post to this thread it's pretty negative."
- what does that mean?

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how are we dialing in our front brakes? Mine rub on one side and I can't get them off of that side. Also, when I tighten the caliper bolts down to the prescribed 4.5nm they won't move

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Take it to your LBS!
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My initial set up was done by my LBS. After that they always functioned fine. When switching rim widths I move the washers on the pad holders accordingly. If that's not an option, the first thing I would check is to be sure the cable is smooth with no kinks.

Since my bike is now in the overnight transition area I can't check, but I thought the front brake bolts were 4 Nm, not 4.5. I always set them to the torque printed on the fork and they worked fine.


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I meant that with everything I have learned from this thread, I should be contributing to it as well. Taking and not giving back is bad juju.
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I just got a new set of wheels - Vision Metron 81 tubulars. Switching from the Planet-X101/82 combo. I just got home from my first ride and to be honest I was a bit surprised that the difference from a budget and narrow carbon wheelset to an almost highend wider wheelset wasn't any bigger. Well - but let's talk TM01: The thing is that I mounted Conti Competition 25 mm tubulars (the old wheelset had 22 mm Sprinter Gatorskin). The front rim rubs slightly against the bolt holding the front brake cover if the wheel is installed fully in the fork. Have any of you guys experienced the same and maybe even come up with a solution other than lovering the wheel a tiny bit in the fork and tighten it really well!?
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I've never experienced this. Sounds like you need a smaller tire. If i understand your solution correctly, it sounds like you are saying to not install the wheel against the fork drop outs, but use the QR to hold it slightly away from the drop out to accommodate the tire. Is that right? If that's right, then you are absolutely nuts if you ride that way. Disaster waiting to happen.


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Yep - that was my 'solution' and I totally agree it's completely nuts. I tried to grind the cover a bit around its hole but its not enough. Thinking I should just wear the rim a bit on my road bike...
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I checked my fork and you are right, the torque if 4.5 Nm. I have no ideas on this one; I never had that issue.

As far as the brake pads rubbing, are the brake arms centered? If so, check the number of washers on the pad holders. Other than that, my guess is that it's linked to arms not freely moving when torqued.


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albafar wrote:
Yep - that was my 'solution' and I totally agree it's completely nuts. I tried to grind the cover a bit around its hole but its not enough. Thinking I should just wear the rim a bit on my road bike...


I am now wondering if my LBS used the original and correct bolt to mount the cover. Looking at the illustration in the manual it seems countersunk. But mine isn't. It's a regular flat torx 20 bolt. Normally I would have expected it to be a hex. Do yours look the same?






Update: the bolt was wrong. Got a new one - countersunk - and it fits perfectly. No more rubber rubbing ;-)
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Need your friendly advice guys:

My TM01 creaks very badly whenever turning in either direction. The LBS says that it is due to the way the cables are routed and is normal. Can anyone confirm this?

Thanks
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Check the wheel distance adjuster on rear drop out.

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the creaking is all definately coming from where the cabling runs out the top into the aerobar.
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I had a similar problem with my TM01. I greased all parts and tightened the headset, much better now.
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And here comes my 2013 TM01 Ultegra size L. Any suggestions on how to get the Torhans VR even more flush other than electrical tape? I'm still uncertain if it should be used for hydration or storage. Have some of you guys ever tried to fit a Tufo Elite Jet < 160 into the VR?
How come the TM01 size L is not UCI legal where as the other sizes seem to be??


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albafar wrote:
How come the TM01 sizeL is not UCI legal whereas the other sizes seem to be??

Just guessing: maybe the seat stays are more than 16 cm below the top tube?



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I know some athletes have used the Felt DA Vr holder on the BMC and it looks very good. Mounting it on the seat tube rather than the downtube will be better.
Not sure about fitting a Tufo....It might work but will be tight.

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albafar wrote:
And here comes my 2013 TM01 Ultegra size L. Any suggestions on how to get the Torhans VR even more flush other than electrical tape? I'm still uncertain if it should be uses hor hydration or storage. Have some of you guys ever tried to fit a Tufo Elite Jet < 160 into the VR?
How come the TM01 sizeL is not UCI legal whereas the other sizes seem to be??



I tried both the standard and Felt Torhans mount and was never happy enough to leave either on there. The Felt mount as low as possible on the seat tube or the standard mount as low as possible on the down tube (à la Starkey) were probably the best options. Didn't mess with tape. Not sure if they will fit the Tufo, but it sure fit sealant and CO2.

On the subject of carrying aerodynamic hydration, I found something I really like that works with the Time Machine seatpost and an Adamo saddle. I took apart a Profile Design seat rail mounted 2 bottle carrier, played with some zip ties and could not be any more happy with this solution. Two bottles securely behind the saddle, no movement and not in the way for a flying mount. (edit: added pics)




You could run longer bottles too if you can keep them in.


This would probably only work on an Adamo (or similar), otherwise you would be smacking the back of your thighs into it. I did have to move the cages up to the highest mounting slot to keep from hitting my legs. I use the same size rubber bands from attaching shoe loops to the skewer/derailleur to loop between the neck of the bottle and that black tab. Friction tape didn't seem to do enough. Haven't lost a bottle yet with the rubber bands and it's totally worth any extra hassle to keep from giving another rider something to hit. You can also loop extra rubber bands in the groove to tighten the cage all around. Now that I'm posting this, I feel like maybe I should do that instead. How did I forget that? I haven't actually tried using the bigger Polar bottles back there, it was just for a picture.

I'm curious if Damon hit it on the head with the UCI legal question. I never put any thought into it because I don't do anything UCI. The large is a pretty tall frame. ~40mm difference in stack between both mediums and the large sounds right.
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Ted Striker wrote:
I know some athletes have used the Felt DA Vr holder on the BMC and it looks very good. Mounting it on the seat tube rather than the downtube will be better.
Not sure about fitting a Tufo....It might work but will be tight.

Hans


Thanks Hans,

I took the chance and now we all know that the Tufo Elite Jet <160 tubular fits. But it couldn't be just 1 mm wider ;-) And there is still plenty of room for CO2 etc.




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Awesome! Thanks for sharing and glad it worked!

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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [fabricatedyou] [ In reply to ]
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so i have a TM01, i've had it over a year.

tonight as i pulled away from the start line at a time trial the drive side rear wheel adjuster for bringing the wheel forward and backwards failed.

anyone ever changed one? if so how?
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How did it fail? Could you share a picture?

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There's nothing to see. As I pulled off the line the wheel moved forwards on the drive side. I tried to remind the screw back to where it should have been but it won't move. The screw turns but the piece doesn't move backwards and forwards.

All the parts are still there. It looks fine but it doesn't work anymore.
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Hi,

Does anyone know the size of the headset bearings for a TM01? Mine are smoked & rusted out and I cant seem to find the sizing anywhere..

Thanks
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [BK1] [ In reply to ]
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Howdy all

So I'm in the process of trying to get myself a TT bike, I came across this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-BMC-TimeMachine-TM02-Triathlon-Bike-Full-Carbon-Shimano-105-Medium-Short-/321459317856?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item4ad877ec60


Unfortunately the closest BMC dealer is about 6 hours away. I attempted to utilize the BMC fitting tool online but it put me at a Large... Oddly enough.


Right now I'm riding a 54 Cervelo S2, but I have the saddle slammed forward to the max point that I can push it within the boundaries.


I've ridden a Cannondale Slice 54, however I felt it was a tad big as well. I'm 5 Ft 8", 31" inseam.


Am i going to set myself up for failure with this bike and will I essentially be "compromising" since it's available or do I really need a smaller size for this type of bike?
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I have finally located where all my creaks are coming from. The "top cap" (sorry I dont know the technical name) that covers cables running out the frame into the aerobar.

Any solutions? I have tried wrapping the cables with electrical tape but it is impossible to get the cap back on afterwards.
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Don't think a large is correct. This size sounds about right.
I am 5' 11 (and 3/4's, damnit). I have the M/L. The seat is jammed forward as much as possible and the stem as high and far back as possible.
It does fit pretty much perfect but, likely, with an M, it wouldn't be quite at the limit.
BTW, I also ride a Cervelo R3 and S3 in size 56.

Fair warning, though, highly recommended that you get a bike shop to dial you in. These bikes are not for the faint of heart--though they really deliver when dialed in.
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Hi,

I´m 5´10 and have a TM01 size ML. It fits like a glove. I have a long back and relatively short legs though.

I used to have a P2 size 54 and that was too small for me. I had to use oversize stem.
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It sounds like a M/S is right up my alley. I've heard nothing but amazing things from BMC, albeit they are hard to come by and you pay a bit more for what you get. Although after reading all 18 pages of this thread I don't think there is a single person unsatisfied with their bike
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i am 5'11" with 32" inseam and ride a m/s. it fits perfectly and feels very comfortable. the only change i made from my previous bike was a slightly longer stem. sizing on these frames is a bit odd. if i remember correctly, the s has a longer top tube than the m/s but a much lower head tube. one needs a pretty radical position for the s. the m/l is longer than the s and m/s but has the same head tube as the m/s. personally, i chose the shorter top tube paired witj a long stem over the long top tube with a shorter stem. the large, imho, would be very difficult for you to properly fit.

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I agree that the large is definitely not ideal for me. I ended up re-measuring and using the fit guide on bmc's website and ended up with a M/L. That being said I use my cervelo sizing and not a TT bike. I'm confident that a M/S will be ideal for me and my odd geometry
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Clarification from my last post. Stem cover is the "creaker" with all the cables coming out of it.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [bsramzy] [ In reply to ]
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Hi All,

Any BMC dealers out there that could get me a couple rear derailleur hangers for my TM-02? Mine got bent in transition, and I don't have a dealer close by.

Help would be appreciated.

Regards,

CB
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [ProudMOPer] [ In reply to ]
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I ordered a few spares from Evans Cycles in the UK. They arrived to the US in about a week. Cost is $17 plus $11 for shipping; $28 total for one. Easier than dealing with the US dealers.

I recommend every BMC owner carry a spare to races. Tri Bike Transport bent mine en route to IM Los Cabos. Fortunately, I had a spare with me because there wasn't a bike shop within hundreds of miles, let alone a BMC dealer with a spare hanger for a TM01.

http://www.evanscycles.com/.../dropout-36-ec041729


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Perfect!! Thanks so much!!

CB
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I just got a spare one a couple of weeks ago after 3 guys I know broke their hangers (not BMC) on their bikes.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [astig] [ In reply to ]
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I ended up not getting the 2013 TM02 as the bike was out of stock.

What I ended up doing was spending a couple hundred more and got myself a 2013 BMC TM01 with Ultegra build, no wheels/cassette.

Can I join the BMC club now?
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That is impressive drop!

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Nice!
Consider ditching the bottle and cage. Saves about 2.5 Watts...
Cheers,

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After a week of waiting, I am now the official owner of a 2013 BMC TM01 Ultegra build



Test rode it this morning after piecing it together and I'm absolutely sold on BMC. Never have I had a bike that fit me so right and felt so good.




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How did you get your Torhans to fit? Did you use the frame bolts?


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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [corduroy] [ In reply to ]
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I simple used one of The Torhans bolts on the seat tube only and a few skewers to make it as flush as possible. It sits rather tight with only one bolt. I Also predrilled a hole for the down tube but with a bolt mounted there the bottle doesnt fit right in. The bike is a size L btw.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [flipmypancake] [ In reply to ]
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I see you have the 404s and a super 9 clincher? Just wondering what you do with the brake width? I have a TM01 and just bought a super 9 but don't know what to do for training wheels. I was thinkings 404s but the width difference makes the rear a pain. Do you just deal with the width difference when you swap out? I was thinking of a barrel adjuster too, but i don't think you could even put one on with the integrated brakes. Thoughts?
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Finally finished building up my BMC TM01 -- bartape and all =)




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Hey guys - my TM01's headset bearings are starting to feel notchy and I'm thinking they need to be replaced. Any idea what kind of bearings they are and where I could get them? I couldn't find any info in the owners manual and even emailed BMC but did not receive a reply :-(.

I'm also looking for the rubber grommet that covers the hole where the FD Di2 wire exists. Also emailed BMC but no reply. Any help would be appreciated :-)

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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [onceatriathlet3] [ In reply to ]
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I use HED Ardennes + wheels to pair with my Super 9 and 808's makes width much easier. I also use Avid Shorty Ultimate brake shoes http://www.amazon.com/...avid+shorty+ultimate. Then for my brake levers I use SRAM 990 to make the width adjustable: https://www.sram.com/...990-aero-brake-lever.

I may switch to HED aero wheels so that I have a aluminum brake rim so that I don't need to change pads. The front is easy to change with the AVID shorty's because the screw holding the pad is on the side rather than the back. For the rear however the screw is facing the BB so it is very difficult to get out. I have moved to just a metal dowel without the screw so I can slide it in and out which works pretty well.

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Unfortunately I have VukaAero so not brake lever options for me. I may be misreading this, but you said you're switching to HED aero wheels so you don't have to switch pads; did you mean to say carbon brake rim?
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I have aluminum rims for both my aero wheels and training wheels, so no need to worry about changing out pads or adding spacers for that matter.


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No, my HED Ardennes + are Aluminum and the new HED aero rims are also.

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Do you order directly from BMC? I've been going through retailers.

Thanks.


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azurebl911 wrote:
Hey guys - my TM01's headset bearings are starting to feel notchy and I'm thinking they need to be replaced. Any idea what kind of bearings they are and where I could get them? I couldn't find any info in the owners manual and even emailed BMC but did not receive a reply :-(.

I'm also looking for the rubber grommet that covers the hole where the FD Di2 wire exists. Also emailed BMC but no reply. Any help would be appreciated :-)

Anyone have any advice/idea for this?

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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [fabricatedyou] [ In reply to ]
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anyone over 6'5" have a 2012 or newer TM01? I have the TT02 2011 model XL. I love it, but itching to turn it into a road bike project and get a new TM01 for TT bike. After going on BMC's website it appears they do not Will the large fit people from 6'2" to 6'7" etc.... I will worry about getting it dialed in after it arrives.
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I need some advice/help with my TM01. I have had my bike for 2 years now and have never had an issue with it. This past weekend the handlebar/headset started creaking. When I put preassure on the bars they creak when I am in the aero position. I have tightened all the bolts and none of them were loose.. My question is can I ride the bike this way until I take it to my lbs? I need to put in a 4 hour ride today and I do not have another bike but I am concerend with the noise.
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Mine did that within the first 500 miles I owned it. Ended up not having any grease in the headset.
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When mine got noisy (and had vertical movement), it turned out the steerer tube was cracked about 50% of the way around.

Stop "keep riding it" and take it to the LBS. At the very least, they will clean it, grease it and tighten it down for minimal cost. If your issues are worse than some dry or dirty bearings, they will know what to do.
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spintela wrote:
I need some advice/help with my TM01. I have had my bike for 2 years now and have never had an issue with it. This past weekend the handlebar/headset started creaking. When I put preassure on the bars they creak when I am in the aero position. I have tightened all the bolts and none of them were loose.. My question is can I ride the bike this way until I take it to my lbs? I need to put in a 4 hour ride today and I do not have another bike but I am concerend with the noise.

Don't be too alarmed but do check it out. I ended up putting grease between the joining pieces of the stem assembly and that was it.

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Is that an Arundel TT Mount you have behind the seat post


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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [corduroy] [ In reply to ]
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It's a beaker concept hydrotail. I don't think they are made any more but you can still find them on Amazon.
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Got the creaking noise on my bike fixed today. All it needed was grease between the stem parts. I was getting nrevouse with all the creaking going on. Thanks for the help.
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Wondering if someone could tell me what the seatpost length is on a M-L model.. I have a rather long inseam for my overall height and the top tube length of the large is too much for me...

Also just want to confirm that the bike is BB30... I will be installing my Cannondale Hollowgram SRM if I go this route...

Thanks
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Do you know if it was regular grease, eg green phil wood, or friction paste that was used? My new TM-02 is creaking like an old bed frame.

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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [ParisCarbon] [ In reply to ]
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PC,

I believe the seatpost is 385 on the ML and L. Plenty long enough for nearly anybody.

The bottom bracket is definitely a BB30.
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It was bike grease but did not ask the name it did look green. Today I used the bike again and it creaked! Not all the time but some. Will have to grease some more parts I guess. Aerobar and stem seem to be the problem
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I've just purchased a second hand TM02 and am having issues with the rear brake. I believe the previous owner has broken the pipe (noodle) holder per the pics below. As you can see the hole seems to have snapped so the wire can come out of it. Also the pipe can be pulled through it. The main issue I'm having though is that after I've pulled the brakes they don't spring back. I'm going to try replacing the pipe with a solid 90 degree one rather than the flexible one and re-grease the cables and brake springs.


Does anyone know where I could get a replacement?



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Hmm, that's a pretty nice hole. There has got to be a story behind it.

My only suggestion would be to find a BMC dealer and ask. I have had pretty poor luck finding small parts for my Time Machines otherwise.
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dangle wrote:
Hmm, that's a pretty nice hole. There has got to be a story behind it.

My only suggestion would be to find a BMC dealer and ask. I have had pretty poor luck finding small parts for my Time Machines otherwise.

I'm in the UK where Evans Cycles seem to be the main dealer and I've just arranged to get the part from them (£4 for the part plus £5 processing/postage). It looks like the previous owner has replaced the standard pipe with a flexible one, I can only assume he tried to widen the hole for some reason.

I've just ordered a generic 90 degree pipe from eBay for £2 as the official one costs £15. Do you think this will be ok, or should I stump up for the official one?
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Ah, somebody widened the hole. There's so little material around it that any more widening would have it killed it. Kind of silly for somebody (not you) to have rolled the dice on their brakes.

IMO, any generic brake noodle will work as long as it is small enough. There's not enough room in that area for a full size one. Maybe you could put a sideways bend in it, but I would be too afraid of crimping it completely. I think that's why the flexible brake noodle has been popular for the TM.

I started with a generic 90, bent it closer to 100-110, trimmed it down a bunch to fit, added a modified metal Yokozuna Reaction brake ferrule (the original ferrule was trimmed off) and put in some cable liner. No complaints here.
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dangle wrote:
Ah, somebody widened the hole. There's so little material around it that any more widening would have it killed it. Kind of silly for somebody (not you) to have rolled the dice on their brakes.

IMO, any generic brake noodle will work as long as it is small enough. There's not enough room in that area for a full size one. Maybe you could put a sideways bend in it, but I would be too afraid of crimping it completely. I think that's why the flexible brake noodle has been popular for the TM.

I started with a generic 90, bent it closer to 100-110, trimmed it down a bunch to fit, added a modified metal Yokozuna Reaction brake ferrule (the original ferrule was trimmed off) and put in some cable liner. No complaints here.

Well I assumed they made the hole wider so that the noodle could fit through it (as you can see in the picture that it does). But when this happens there is not enough room for the lever to move! But possibly it just broke due too pressure?!

What was the reason for you replacing the original noodle? From the sounds of if the generic one I've ordered is going to be too big. So I think I might just bite the bullet and buy the official one.
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BA,

I like to tinker. You'll be fine with the original one. Best of luck.
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Where are the brake stops? You can get brake noodles from nearly every online bike store. It's not proprietary to BMC.


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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [corduroy] [ In reply to ]
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The removable arm that the noodle connects to (routes through) are proprietary as far as I know of.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [dangle] [ In reply to ]
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TM02 owners - what do you use to prevent the fork from being damaged from the frame stop? I am currently using frame protector stick ons, but it seems that the turning lock rips right through the protective layer after 1 or 2 rides. It's been worse lately and has even worn a small hole in the fork paint. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers!
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [mplstri] [ In reply to ]
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Hi
New to this group
Questions about TM01 wheels and tyre selection
planning to put Bora Ultra 80 on the bike
tyre selection
Cont 4000S II or Cont Attrack and Force
Anyone try the rear tyre size with Force 24mm any problem ?
or just use 4000S II
or any other suggestion
Many thanks
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Bad Ash] [ In reply to ]
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I've been successful ordering small parts for my TM01 from http://www.evanscycles.com
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [mplstri] [ In reply to ]
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mplstri wrote:
TM02 owners - what do you use to prevent the fork from being damaged from the frame stop? I am currently using frame protector stick ons, but it seems that the turning lock rips right through the protective layer after 1 or 2 rides. It's been worse lately and has even worn a small hole in the fork paint. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers!

I just gave up on it. Adds character to the bike. Like how a truck isn't a truck unless it's got a few dents in it.


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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [texafornia] [ In reply to ]
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texafornia wrote:
mplstri wrote:
TM02 owners - what do you use to prevent the fork from being damaged from the frame stop? I am currently using frame protector stick ons, but it seems that the turning lock rips right through the protective layer after 1 or 2 rides. It's been worse lately and has even worn a small hole in the fork paint. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers!


I just gave up on it. Adds character to the bike. Like how a truck isn't a truck unless it's got a few dents in it.

+1

My 2012 had a bit of character. My 2014 has rubber bump stops on the fork to prevent it.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [mr.lai123] [ In reply to ]
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I use 25c's on a rim with a 15mm inner diameter and haven't had any issues. Not sure what the ID is on a Bora Ultra 80 though. If it has a wider ID like 17-18mm, a Force could be too wide though.

It's pretty hard to go wrong with the 4000s.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [dangle] [ In reply to ]
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Where can I get those? I'd like some!


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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [texafornia] [ In reply to ]
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You would need an entirely new fork. They are integrated.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [jdbyrnes] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks, I have already placed a 'special order' for the pipe holder with Evans as it's not one of their listed parts online. Hopefully it'll be here soon as I ordered it on the 8th and they said allow 10 working days, I guess it'll come directly from BMC. I also ordered the pipe which is a stocked part and I did receive swiftly.

Now I'm really itching to ride it!

I do also need to find a rubber bung to cover the hole on the top tube for the seat post adjustment.

In reply to the other poster, I do have the brake stops and they are now re-attached.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Bad Ash] [ In reply to ]
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I think I've figured out the answer here, but can anyone confirm that HED Stinger 7 and 9 wheels would fit on a BMC TM01?
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [island rider] [ In reply to ]
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Stinger 7 are fine for the bike. I had to remove the little screws which are supposed to hold the brake pads to allow the brakes to open more widely. Additionally I used sandpaper to grind down the brake pads a little. That's also what the manual suggests for wide wheels.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Bad Ash] [ In reply to ]
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Looking through the offerings of evans cycles, if saw this: http://www.evanscycles.com/...e-tm01-tm02-ec033226

This looks like what you might need, right?
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [noehry] [ In reply to ]
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noehry wrote:
Looking through the offerings of evans cycles, if saw this: http://www.evanscycles.com/...e-tm01-tm02-ec033226

This looks like what you might need, right?

That was indeed what I needed. At the time Evans didn't stock it and I had to place a special order costing £9. So looks like they now stock it as a standard part at a very reasonable £1.99!

After much fiddling I have eventually gotten the rear brake working reasonably well. However, to do so I've ended up using the slightly thinner gear cabling as the thicker brake cables just wouldn't move smoothly through the official noodle.
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Hi All,
I was wondering if any of you have fitted a set of SRMs to a TM02? If so, where did you place the magnet? There doesn't seem to be enough clearance to place the magnet on the chainstay. Thank you.

P.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [fabricatedyou] [ In reply to ]
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Just got a TM01 that I bought from a store that unfortunately are closing their doors… Was told that everything was included, but when I open up the box today, I only had one spacer and only one angles spacer.. Missing the 30 deg angled spacer and the 20mm spacer, plus the bolts for the 20mm and 10+20mm and of course for the 30mm… Plus then there's the rubber plugs that cover the bolt holes in the stem.

Anyone knows where these can be ordered? With the store closing their doors (and yes, they are/were BMC dealers, so no grey market stuff!), I can't expect much help from them...

"Suddenly the thought struck me. My floor is someone elses ceiling"-Nils Ferlin
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [audiojan] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [corduroy] [ In reply to ]
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corduroy wrote:
I got my spare parts from http://www.evanscycles.com

Thanks. I saw that Evans (bought stuff from then in the past), but they only have the silver colored pieces, none in black (which functionally doesn't make a difference, but with the rest of the stem in black, I kind of wish it can match…)

"Suddenly the thought struck me. My floor is someone elses ceiling"-Nils Ferlin
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [audiojan] [ In reply to ]
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Hi all

Quick question if that is ok, will the Large frame for a BMC TimeMachine TT03 accomodate someone of 6ft 3.5 in height? I'm only asking because the bike is not new, is only the frame and is far away, so I can't easily try it unfortunately. What do you think?

It would be my first time trial bike and seems a good frame to start off, if all goes well I'd like a TM02 later down the line.

Thanks
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [101001101] [ In reply to ]
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Need some advice on a possible TM02 purchase. Found a year-end closeout deal on a 2014 TM02 (my dream bike) for $2,250. I've always wanted to build up a TM02 with Di2 and the shop agreed to do it for very close to cost. I'm looking at about $3800 out the door...what do you guys think? The size is M-S. I've never ridden a BMC before but based on stack and reach, it SHOULD fit (I have a Felt B16 52cm that's slightly too long for me, so I'm looking for ~510 / 390mm).

What do you guys think? I'm about 5'6, 30" inseam if that helps.

Unfortunately, I'm on deployment and can't test-ride anything for at least 7 more months...but I really want to pull the trigger on my "welcome home" gift right now - and I don't think this deal is going to be around in the future.

Second question: would it be worth upgrading crankset and calipers to Ultegra for another $300?
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [tacetman] [ In reply to ]
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Hey man, I'm afraid to say but I think M-S is too large for you. The stack isn't an issue but the reach might be. I'm 5'9 w/ 31in inseem and I setup my TM01 with the saddle jammed all the way forward and shortest possible stem configuration to get low enough while still being able to rotate my hip properly. You might be able to get the stems even shorter on a TM02 but hard to imagine.

I considered going with a S myself but ended up getting a M-S and to be honest, I don't think I made the right choice. I know everyone's proportions are different so I can only offer anecdotal evidence based on myself.

*** Correction 12/26/2014 ***

I just realized that the Small TM01 has a longer reach than M-S and remembered that was the reason I decided to go with M-S, instead of S.

#KISPERFORMANCE
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [audiojan] [ In reply to ]
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audiojan wrote:
Just got a TM01 that I bought from a store that unfortunately are closing their doors… Was told that everything was included, but when I open up the box today, I only had one spacer and only one angles spacer.. Missing the 30 deg angled spacer and the 20mm spacer, plus the bolts for the 20mm and 10+20mm and of course for the 30mm… Plus then there's the rubber plugs that cover the bolt holes in the stem.

Anyone knows where these can be ordered? With the store closing their doors (and yes, they are/were BMC dealers, so no grey market stuff!), I can't expect much help from them...

I got in touch with BMC and I'm getting everything through R&A cycle. Awesome level of service!!!!

"Suddenly the thought struck me. My floor is someone elses ceiling"-Nils Ferlin
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Tillquist] [ In reply to ]
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Regarding wheels: I'm about to get a Lightweight Disc/ VR8 wheelset and wanted to make sure, they fit in the frame of a TM01. Anyone have experience with this set up?

I'll post pictures as soon as I have them :)
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [101001101] [ In reply to ]
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I'm exactly your height and this is a Large Frame...
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [noehry] [ In reply to ]
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noehry wrote:
Regarding wheels: I'm about to get a Lightweight Disc/ VR8 wheelset and wanted to make sure, they fit in the frame of a TM01. Anyone have experience with this set up?

I'll post pictures as soon as I have them :)




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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Tillquist] [ In reply to ]
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I'm looking at a TM01 and have a few questions -

First, I'm a little over 5'10 and had a retul fit which when I put the numbers into the BMC calculator has me on a M-L (this is a new position for me and pretty aggressive). My local retailer thinks I would be better off on a M-S. Reading this thread makes me think he might be right. (I currently ride a 56 road bike with a 130mm stem and bars with 80mm reach if that matters.) Thoughts?

Second, I'm looking at a used 2013 in good condition with UDi2. I think I can get it near $4k. That seems like a good price to me, I was wondering if anyone else had a different thought.

Third, I'll be riding it with HED Stinger wheels. I understand that the collective lessons learned from this board says that wheels that width can be made to fit and work well. Is my understanding correct?
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Tillquist] [ In reply to ]
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I can't see the picture, but I'm assuming, it's one of a nice looking TM01 with an Autobahn disc :)
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [noehry] [ In reply to ]
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My BMC TM 01


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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Sabella] [ In reply to ]
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My new 2015 TM02.


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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [island rider] [ In reply to ]
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island rider wrote:
First, I'm a little over 5'10 and had a retul fit which when I put the numbers into the BMC calculator has me on a M-L (this is a new position for me and pretty aggressive). My local retailer thinks I would be better off on a M-S. Reading this thread makes me think he might be right. (I currently ride a 56 road bike with a 130mm stem and bars with 80mm reach if that matters.) Thoughts?

I'm also 5'-10" and I went with the ML. The difference between the MS and ML is all in the reach (377 vs. 418) so if you know your reach from your fit that should give you a good indication. Did you get fit at the same retailer that's suggesting the MS? If so, did they give you a reason?

The aero position feels a little aggressive to me compared to what I was previously riding (road bike w/aero bars), but in a comfortable way. I think I would've been too upright on the MS. Good luck with it!
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Dgconner154] [ In reply to ]
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Hi guys,
just got a new tm01 and facing afew problems with the setup, which is a bitch cause I can't wait to take it out for a ride.

My LBS tells me that the rear brake can't really acccomodate a 23mm rim, as there's the brake pad fastening bolt that will push against the rim if the last spacer is taken out to increase the clearance.

Attached in the pics below are of the rear brake with a 21mm rim.
The clearance already is very little.

Any ideas as to how I can solve this? remove the fastening bolt?




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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [raptor03] [ In reply to ]
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Did you try a different brake pad by chance? My friend had the Zipp's brake pads but they were a little more thicker.... I had a spare set of Reynolds Blue pads and he was able to install his disc wheel with no issues at all...... Hope this helps you out.
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Re: Official BMC Time Machine Owners Thread [Jimster] [ In reply to ]
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don't have a different set of pads to switch with.. but yeah I hear the zipp cork ones are good though.

weird thing is the owner's manual states that it can handle a 23mm, but My rear brake's having issues with that.... so yeah was wondering if anyone else experienced this.
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I got a P5 and my friend has one like yours.... We both did the same Reynolds Pad and all work great for both of