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OK, first post edited to show the details for the 2009-2010 100 runs in 100 days challenge with a few edits from last year on instructions.

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THIS IS THE OFFICIAL 100/100 THREAD. RULES AND OTHER IMPORTANT DETAILS POSTED HERE. USE THIS THREAD TO POST YOUR SMACKTALK FOR THE REST OF THE WINTER. and motivate your training partners

Thanks to Slowman, Rappstar, Herbert for accomodating us and hosting this virtual training camp on their website at no cost to us!!! Last year worked well using the ST training log, so its back this year.

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On Dec 15th we'll start the 2009-10 edition of the 100 runs in 100 day challenge, commonly known as 100/100. The thing has evolved somewhat over the past few years, due to and contrary to popular demand. The basic unit that counts as a run is 30 minutes.

The goal of this entire thing is to lay down a solid run base by doing volume through frequency. The goal of the challenge actually is not to randomly be doing a whole whack of short runs, although some in the past may have chosen to. The goal really is to increase your overall mileage which will result in better performances next year. Frequency is the carrot to get you there.


The runs can be outdoors or on a treadmill, but it must be running (no water running, no elliptical trainer...). Walking does not count...there must be 2 feet off the ground at some point in every stride (the difference between race walking and running) and there must be forward motion so 30 minutes of jumping jacks will not count either :-) :-) :-).

DOS AND DONTS
  1. You can take days off
  2. You can do days with more than one run (doubles)
  3. You can and likely should take rest days
  4. You get no credit for going longer than 30 minute wrt number of runs, however it will help your distance totals
  5. If you go fast, it will show up in your total distance over the challenge in less time and the speedsters get to beat the crap out of each other.
  6. You can go as slow as you want provided both feet leave the ground on every stride
  7. Listen to your body if you need to take a day offdont get too sucked into what the other geeks on the standings are doing (who am I kidding.talking to a bunch a type A tri geeks)
  8. By all means, use the overall standing as a motivator to push you up a level, but dont put yourself in the injury/hurt locker in the middle of winter
  9. Don't sprint out of the gate in the first 3 weeks....easiest way to get injured...
  10. If you make it through 10 weeks (70 days), pour it on in the final month when your body and mind can take it.


WHAT COUNTS AS A DOUBLE RUN?

For a run to count as a double, it must be separated by at least 1 hour. I have to pick a duration to separate 2 runs and it can't be 1 minute or 5 minutes, and putting 1 hour in between means that I will allow you to count a run-swim-run, run-bike-run, run-wts-run, run-XC ski-run, run-McDonalds-run as 2 sessions as long as the thing in between lasts for at least 1 hour (be it 40K on the bike, or a session at the donut shop).

Three years ago _EH_, Jana and I put down 100 days in a row of running 30 min or more with ZERO rest days. Not really recommended. The last few years we have had approximately 50 or more hit 100 runs in 100 days, but that's really not for everyone (nor should it be)

WHAT ARE THE VARIOUS LEVELS

While some might go for 100 runs, the reality is that unless you are already running 4-6 hours per week, this is not a realistic goal. If you did over 2500K of running last year, you're probably goo to go to attack the full 100 (assuming you have no injuries)

For most a realistic goal is to start at Bronze club pace (or less) and then see how things go.
  1. Platinum Club = 100 runs in 100 days (March 24th)
  2. Gold Club = 90 runs in 100 runs in days
  3. Silver Club = 80 runs in 100 runs in days
  4. Bronze = 70 runs in 100 runs in days

It is great training for anyone doing a spring marathon or an early season triathlon, and you'll be shocked by how quickly you accumulate mileage, all without getting injured...because the focus is keeping them short and aerobic. By all means feel free to run longer than 30 minutes, but the main goal here is to get you out the door, 5-7 times per week, especially given that the weather is generally shitty for riding in many parts of the Northern Hemisphere.

QUESTION ABOUT RUNS SHORTER THAN 30 MINUTES

The goal is to encourage people to run as much as possible. Sometimes, life gets in the way. We have lives outside sport. Something is better than nothing. So if you do 2 runs shorter than 30 minutes in one day (ex 20+15), you can count the total as 1 run, but beyond that, you cant keep adding up incremental amounts to count for additional runs. For example, a 50 minute run and 10 minute run in one day wont count as 2 runs and nor will 20+20+20. They will both count as one 60 minute run (you can add your short run amount to your large run amount to get full mileage credit).
So basically let's say you do a 15 minute run covering 3K. You can't enter this as a "complete run" for your "club status", however, if you do many of these over the winter, they all add up to more base, so what you CAN do is add these 15 minutes in your entry for your previous run...so if your previous run was 45 minutes, and 9K, just put it in as 60 minutes and 12K and take some partial credit for it.


SIGN UP AND USING THE SLOWTWITCH.COM TRAINING LOG
1. Go to training.slowtwitch.com
2. Sign up for a training log account if you dont already have one
3. Then go to training.slowtwitch.com/challenges
4. Look for the 100 runs/100 days challenge and sign up for it
5. Now start entering your runs in the slowtwitch log. Make sure you only enter runs >30 minutes as one entity. If you have a 20+15 day, enter it as one workout of 35 minute or it will not get rolled into the results sheet
6. Please ensure that you log a distance along with the time. If you don't know the distance, please try to estimate...this will also get you finely tuned to your pace at various times/distances...great for racing
7. Your runs will automatically get entered into the challenge results sheet with everyone else
8. From the challenges home page, click on the link to go to the 100/100 challenge, which will allow you to view the results
9. Once click on this link you will end up at the results page. You can click on any of the column headers, and it will sort the sheet based on that category (frequency, time, distance, aerobic points.
10. Please note that you must be logged in to actually enter your data. You cant enter data without logging into your account (seems obvious...)

Ill update this post as other questions come up.

And as was the case in previous years, don't expect any love around here (there is lots of tough love). If you think I might be hard nosed, let me just say, that offlin, I get beaten up by even more hard core guys accusing me of making the challenge too "soft". So the rules are the rules. They've been refined over the past few years and love them or hate them, they kind of work.

OK, safe training and don't do anything crazy to put yourself in the hurt locker (like break your leg skiing as I did last year or slipping on ice). See you at the races in 2010.....PB's to all! For me, its base time to see if I can do 36.xx and 1:20.xx in the 10K and half marathon next year....this year I came up short by 10 and 15 seconds respectively....I'm shooting for 80 runs and 800K over the period.

Dev
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Great quote!
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [trvfsub2] [ In reply to ]
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Out of curiosity, if I don't plan on doing 100 runs in 100 days can I still sign up? My training has me doing 6 runs a week so I'd fall a bit short (mid-80's) but it'd still be a great way to keep me motivated during these winter months (today's 20 degree, 30mph wind session wasn't too much fun and there'll be alot more where that came from).
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [Brownie28] [ In reply to ]
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Be patient....all details coming....you can do anything between 1 run and 100 runs....the idea is to get a solid run base (aggregate mileage) through frequency. Frequency is the carrot to getting you guys out to and get the miles in! While some treat frequency as the ultimate goal, (which by the way is fine), it is really my secret way of getting you guys to actually do more run mileage when you really would rather not in the depth of winter. Days off are a good thing, permitted and recommended....6x per week is plenty.

The start date of Dec 15th is to help you guys burn the Xmas Turkey, the Black Forest Cake and the New Year's fermented Maltodextrin and grapes....

Dev
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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The 100/100 starting next week was my excuse for sleeping in today...thanks Dev :-)
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [Brownie28] [ In reply to ]
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Out of curiosity, if I don't plan on doing 100 runs in 100 days can I still sign up? My training has me doing 6 runs a week so I'd fall a bit short (mid-80's) but it'd still be a great way to keep me motivated during these winter months (today's 20 degree, 30mph wind session wasn't too much fun and there'll be alot more where that came from).



I would KILL for that weather... in ND it's been roughly -20 with wind chill all week. Makes running a drag but this competetion might be what I need.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [Chris G] [ In reply to ]
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Chris, I have only run once this week. Was still running way too much through the end of Nov and early Dec (force of habit and I can run whenever I want, making it the easy choice when I want to train). Anyway, I figure I needed a solid 10 day break before resuming run training. My goal this year is silver club (80 runs and cover 800K ). I want more off days for flexibility to ski and ride (indoors).
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Dev,
I went through the same thing with running a bit more in November than I probably wanted to. Looking to try to get 90/ 9000 k in during the challenge that worked great last year. Frequency is the key and I can not say enough about the importance of that extra( 1-2) 30 minute runs have on your season. it not only helps the good days become better days but helps on those days when things are going a bit rougher. I have over 40 years of running and went years without missing a day of running but really saw great results from last seasons challenge. I would advise newcomers to do what you can safely and watch your results because this challenge pays off.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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sounds like fun =D
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [missinglink] [ In reply to ]
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BRING IT!!!!!! WOOOOOHOOOOOO!!!!!!

lets do this!!!!!
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [IRONwolf] [ In reply to ]
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Plan formulated ready to go !!

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [Chris G] [ In reply to ]
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I've been tapering for the 100/100.

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [gamebofh] [ In reply to ]
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Me too, very well rested........i'm ready to shoot for 80-90 runs.

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [trvfsub2] [ In reply to ]
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I'm up for this, will be waiting and ready too go.

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [mck414] [ In reply to ]
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motivated by this thread enough to go for a 6 miler after work at 10pm last night in the rain :)
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [Scot] [ In reply to ]
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Scott...all tapered up now (from a run perspective). I actually broke down and ran today.....8Krun+25K XC ski. I'll get around to posting details later tonite.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in again this year.

In anticipation, I've been working on BarryP's 1:2:3 formula since October JUST to get ready!

Last year I started too hard, and by Day 60 or so had to bail due to a balky achilles tendon. Played it smart this year by ramping up the frequency.

Yeah! Go Dev!
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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According to my buddy Daniels light running every day is no more stressful for a trained athlete than sitting on the couch is for a sedentary person...my plan is to be totally lazy this winter yet knock out the 100/100 again :-)
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks Dev. I think I'll miss the 15th but am excited for the next 99 days.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in!
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I might as well!

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Ok, I'm in
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [dshaw101] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in for sure! This sounds awesome. I need to train up for outdoor track and this could keep the motivation alive.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [UMDRunner] [ In reply to ]
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I have no time but i'm doing it anyway.

Please, no points for anything but running. Remember the name of the challenge....:-)

Thank God for Dev and the 100/100 Challenge!
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I know I won't possibly do 100 runs, but with a half in March and full marathon in April I might as well give it a shot!
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I am in, good motivation to get back at it from some recovery time off!
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I'm so in it's weird... I started a week ago - but I'll still take my official start from the 15th. Being a new dad, I need something to hold back the battle of the bulge. Great idea - thanks Dev man!

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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How rough is this challenge on your body? I've never done it before, but I'd like to give it a shot. But I also know the dangers of increasing running volume too quickly.

I typically do four runs per week, three of them being around 45" to an hour, with one longer one usually at 75"-90". Would adding another two or three runs, even if I kept them around half an hour (and maybe even took some minutes off of my current runs to reduce the added mileage) be very difficult? How does frequency compare with mileage when it comes to stress/injury/etc (i.e. running 50 miles in three runs or running 50 miles in six runs, same thing?) Is it something I should prepare for more before considering doing it, and maybe hold off until next year?
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [dougl122] [ In reply to ]
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Get out on the trails. It's much easier on your body and so much more fun.

What's unclear? Even I understand it.

30 min. minimum at one time. 1 hr. between runs. You can run 4 times in a day if you as stupid as me or you can run no runs in one day if your tired or need to go to work.

Stop whinning too. Dev won't put up with any of that crap.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Cool, thanks Dev! I've got BCN marathon in 85 days, so I'm in!
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [Lilac J] [ In reply to ]
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Count me in.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [Mars11] [ In reply to ]
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Count me in as well!
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [homey130] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in!!! 100/100 will fit perfectly with my goal of improving my run this year. Thanks Dev!

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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OK Dev, I'm in...work has kept me from setting any goals for the next year, but 100/100 is a decent goal....buddy
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [jime] [ In reply to ]
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"30 min. minimum at one time."

So if I run 4 miles in 28 minutes it doesn't count. that does sound stupid.

Just saying, being that I'm coming back from injury none of my three runs in the last week would count. all were under 25 minutes but I guess I wasn't running.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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The Long Island Marathon is coming up in May so the timing for this is perfect!
Count me in too!
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [bpcbuilder] [ In reply to ]
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"30 min. minimum at one time."

So if I run 4 miles in 28 minutes it doesn't count. that does sound stupid.

Just saying, being that I'm coming back from injury none of my three runs in the last week would count. all were under 25 minutes but I guess I wasn't running.


Stupid? Really?

Start your own challenge and make the rules whatever you choose.

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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"30 min. minimum at one time."

So if I run 4 miles in 28 minutes it doesn't count. that does sound stupid.

Just saying, being that I'm coming back from injury none of my three runs in the last week would count. all were under 25 minutes but I guess I wasn't running.


Stupid? Really?

Start your own challenge and make the rules whatever you choose.

Agreed, I know this challenge has happened for at least the last two winters with this coming episode being my 3rd attempt. The rules are basic and simple, if you don't like them then don't play. I've never made the 100 mark and don't plan on it this year, but just try to do better from year to year. Looking forward to the motivation this provides and force me out into the cold and snow.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [bpcbuilder] [ In reply to ]
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Minimum run will remain 30 minutes as stupid as it might be to some. We could chose 65 min, 39.45 min , or 28.00001 min or 10*pi or the arcsin of 0.49876...if you are fast guy, you just have to run further in 30 minutes, or you can run slower if you only want to cover 4 miles and stretch it out over 30 minutes.....life is rough.

Jime the aerobic points have nothing to do with the 100/100 challenge. It is a field that slowman tracks in the training log for all challenges on ST (his theory being that this is a triathlon forrum, so we want to see some version of the total training load of participants). If you don't like it, don't look at it. The feature was introduced last year as part of the challenge that slowman ran for USAT duathlon nationals in April and was overlayed on all challenges....no biggie

All the details will be posted tonite with no changes to last year's rules. They are what they are, so save the whining, bitching and complaining for the day when you pull in from a 90 minute run in freezing rain and torrential winds....that will get some sympathy, or Jenhs will have to come in and give out a few HTFU "rewards" :-)

Dev
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [bpcbuilder] [ In reply to ]
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Waa waa
start your own!
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I won't look at the skiing points, that's the one that gets me the most....:-)

By the way, I do think I got screwed last year for the HTFU award when I ran in that blizzard ( w/pics ) and Jen gave it to the guy for running in smog. WTF? I'm from Jersey, I run in smog every day.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in.

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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You have any epic plans for the spring ? I need a good read.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [jime] [ In reply to ]
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Should I call you a waaaaaaaambulance? Tongue

I'm in this year. The boss gave me "permission." We'll need to find another judge unless you, Dev, are comfortable with me giving myself the award because I WILL kick ass.

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [JenHS] [ In reply to ]
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Oh, hi Jen. Glad to see your joining the festivities. Remember, you can only count an Ultra as one run.

Ahh....just kidding about the HTFU award......really......waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa............
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [cheyou] [ In reply to ]
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I have epic plans, And you?

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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yes really. I used that word because jime described himself as such in his post of the rule. I knew I would need some flame retardent with that post.

It's a great rule.It is best to keep up the elite ST standards.

IF the rest you need to call me a whiner to feel manly. grab your strength where you can.

Seriously I like these challenges.They are great motivation tools. Heck I liked the autumn run challenge so much I ran myself into the injury of the month club. I'm not joining this challenge at this time.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in. We'll see if I can stick to it this year.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [jime] [ In reply to ]
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Jime, FYI, I asked Rappstar and Slowman to derate the points for that sport multiple times, but their view was that it reflected the level of difficulty for most and frankly it does. I just happen to have better technique than 95% of the people (or higher) on this forum. It's like comparing the technique of a 45 min IM swimmer vs a 90 min IM swimmer. The aerobic points just happen to go by how much distance you cover and a strong athlete with good technique in a technical sport can cover a shitload, get up the next day and do it again and again and again.

Regardless, don't get too bent out of joint, cause if you really want, have a look at my sport breakdown in the training log...if you looked at most of the challenges all year the guys near the top on aerobic points were the same guys whether winter sports were part or not

Anyway, don't worry about what other people do....focus on yourself and how you feel. All the best.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [bpcbuilder] [ In reply to ]
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You have serious issues if you consider a 30 minute run to be elitest. It's elitest only if you cover approximately 10.5K in 30 minutes. Any less and 30 minutes is just an "also ran run" which pretty well includes every poster on ST. I'm not aware of any guys around here running 28 minutes flat. Probably the best thing we have is Mr. SQW and if I recall, he just gets 10K done in 30 minutes while fresh :-) :-) :-)
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Hahaha...you know I love you Dev.....in a platonic way.......

The last time and only time, I skied, I thought it was like water skiing and I went straight down the black diamond hill without having the ability to stop or turn very well. Not very smart, but I was young and dumb and pretty drunk.

I woke up and the guys with the red crosses were standing over me. I made it down to the refreshment area and stayed there the rest of the weekend.

I'll stick to SBR, thank you.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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This is where the hilarity begins. "What about xxxxx? Does it count? What about only running 29:30, does that count? If I wear purple, can I get double?"

Straightforward:
  • Minimum 30 minutes consecutive running.
  • Not 29 minutes, not 28 minutes, 30
  • Doesn't matter how many miles that equals.
  • Both feet need to be in the air mid-stride.
  • You can run more than once a day but there must be a hour between runs.
  • Not 58 minutes, one hour.


How is this hard?

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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Yes
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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i'm in, glad i am well rested...
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [JenHS] [ In reply to ]
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Instructions updated in post 1 of this thread.

If anyone does any crazy runs, please feel free to submit it to Jen for the ridiculous run reward!
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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This past year I've run approx. 320 days out of the past 346. No injuries cuz I took it slow when I got started. I hadn't run consistanly in months so pretty much started from nothing. I've come up with a rough average of 25 miles a week for 50 weeks which means I've run from Seattle to just north of Encinitas, CA. Set 10k, 50k and 50 mile PRs.

I just had to do some shameless bragging. Sorry, but I know you can appreciate this. I've gotten it out of my system.

I might not make the full 100 runs because I have a couple races on my schedule that will require a rest day or two to recover from. The boss might end up doubling me up a couple days to make up for them though :-)

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [JenHS] [ In reply to ]
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That is very cool. 25 miles per week people may consider "low". But if you look at the ST logs very few people AVERAGE 25 miles per week. I'm "high mileage" averaging just a touch over 30 miles per week. The key is not 5 weeks of 50-60 miles per week, getting injured and 12 weeks of zero.....
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I'm averaging 30+ now, but started much lower. I was conservative with that 25 number but I'd rather not over-inflate the mileage and look like a total tool. I just want to look like a partial tool. :-)

It really is about getting the work done day after day, not just for 100 days and not running again for several weeks. That's the lesson IMO, not that people have to run every day but you gotta run consistantly.

Hopefully people will develop a love for the daily run. I know I have. I miss it when I don't get it in. Thankfully I have a treadmill which makes it easier this time of year :-)

I look forward to the stories and hearing about everyone's progress.

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  • Both feet need to be in the air mid-stride.

Elitist!
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This is where the hilarity begins. "What about xxxxx? Does it count? What about only running 29:30, does that count? If I wear purple, can I get double?"

Straightforward:
  • Minimum 30 minutes consecutive running.
  • Not 29 minutes, not 28 minutes, 30
  • Doesn't matter how many miles that equals.
  • Both feet need to be in the air mid-stride.
  • You can run more than once a day but there must be a hour between runs.
  • Not 58 minutes, one hour.



How is this hard?


I'll go first ...

Does snowshoeing count?
If I wear ankle weights can I count more time based on the added percentage of weight?
If I am running from the cops after a shootout at the donut shop can I count that time in my daily distance?
I do most of my tmill running at 5200 feet above sea level. Shouldn't that count for extra?


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this is gonna be sweet. i'm using 100/100 as an excuse to get a new pair of running shoes a bit early - thanks for the justification!

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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If I am running from the cops after a shootout at the donut shop can I count that time in my daily distance?

If it is 30 minutes or longer, yes.

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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dev,

I'm not saying a 30 minute run is elitist. What I mean is if someone has 20 minutes free time at lunch to go for a run say they run only two miles.really the distance doesn't matter, I think it is elitist to belittle that persons effort as not worthy enough to count in this challenge . You didn't have any thing like this in the autumn challenge. Look at how many 1 mile entries there were. probably 10 minutes or less but you didn't diminish the value of those as not runs.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [bpcbuilder] [ In reply to ]
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I think the point of going for 30 minutes is that it takes a bigger commitment than 10 minutes does. 10 or 20 minutes barely gets most people even warmed up.

I think if you want to run 100 times in 100 days you should go for it. No reason why you have to be a part of the official challenge.

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [bpcbuilder] [ In reply to ]
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Give it up pilgrim....30 mins or it doesn't exist. Go to Beginner Tri. I think it will count over there.

wee...wee...wee......
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [JenHS] [ In reply to ]
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I can see that you are an ultra runner. but do you think it really takes "most people" 30 minutes of running to get warmed up. I know it takes me at least 5min for my knees not to hurt then I can run:)I think" most people" would break a sweat if they had to run one minute probably most here at ST it might take ten. Unless they were walking but I thought we were talking about running. I have read a few articles on this forum about the importance of shorter 2-3 mile runs in ones training schedule.

The challenges are all honor system anyway. .During the autumn run challenge my wife asked me what i would get for reaching each level. I told her ,it was knowing that I did it. So why limit people? It couldn't be that awful "E" word I used earlier.It just seems silly.

I do plan on getting my running back to 6 days a week but I will count them all Even if its just the three miles to the end of the road and back.
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Around here, 30 minutes is very far from elite. Very far. And I'm also very far from elite too.

Maybe it is my age but it takes about 20 minutes for me to get into a good rhythm where my legs are warmed up and I feel good to go. 10 minutes isn't worth the effort to me.

I think it is great you want to run 100/100 but these are the rules for the official challenge. This is my first year because last year I wasn't running 30 minutes a day.

Start a new thread and set up your own challenge. People do it here all the time. TC used to do monthly swim challenges. I've seen cycling challenges as well. I've never done those because I don't do enough volume for either of them. And, I can't commit to their rules.

I'm sure you'd get people who would be up for it but not able to commit to 30 minutes.

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [jime] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks nothing I could write would validate my statements more than your latest comment.

BTW, four 30 minute+ runs with at least an hour in between in one day I am impressed There no way I am that good at managing my time. I am jealous. do you shower after each run or do you like hanging out in sweaty clothes?
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Dev, I'm in again, although it'll be more like 70/100 instead of 100/100. Just the motivation I need to get out the door, and, I'm well tapered too ;-)

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [KS] [ In reply to ]
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Ken, glad to hear. How is the economy doing in Japan. On my 44th birthday, I woke up after a week of rain and saw Mount Fuji from my hotel window....then I ran to the track at Yoyogi stadium and wanted to do a birthday set, so I thought of 44x200 but went instead for 22x400. Then drove up to Saitama and the prospective customer I spent the better chunk of the day with got their program approved and finally signed up with us. That was the evening that I was supposed to have dinner with you in Tokyo, but I only got back really late! I'm in for 80/100...glad to see you are in. Are you doing IM Japan? I hear there are three different Fuji Mountain Hillclimb bike races in April, May, June!
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [bpcbuilder] [ In reply to ]
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I'll agree with you that there are some days that I HATE the 30 minute minimum but because of the challenge I:
  1. make time to find 30 minutes. Anyone who tells me that they cannot make 40 minutes (30 min run, 10 min shower and change) for a run is either disorganized or is not making the run a priority....the latter is acceptable, but then you don't get credit for a full run. The former is also acceptable, but don't complain about the minimum when other do get themselves organized
  2. get more mileage in. 30 minutes is ~6-7k at my running pace. If I do 3 more of those per week, suddenly I have 20 K of additional mileage that I would not have if I did not make the time

I differentiate between the phrases:
  1. "have time" and
  2. "make time"

A triathlete trying to squeeze the most possible training in never "has time". We "make time". So please don't use the excuse of not having time, at least not in this challenge. Last year we had over 500 people making time to make it happen. There is never "no time"....there are just "different priorities".

thanks

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I noticed this thread posted yesterday, which linked to a scientific study:

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...;;page=unread#unread

From the article:

Frankfurt, Germany, December 6 -- A rather bizarre study carried out by German researchers suggests that staring at women's breasts is good for men's health and increases their life expectancy.

According to Dr. Karen Weatherby, a gerontologist and author of the study, gawking at womens breasts is a healthy practice, almost at par with an intense exercise regime, that prolongs the lifespan of a man by five years.

She added, "Just 10 minutes of staring at the charms of a well-endowed female, is roughly equivalent to a 30-minute aerobics work-out."

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So I would like to kick off this season's pestering of Dev with questions on the rules by asking the following:

If I run 30 minutes with a female training partner and stare at her boobs the entire time, can I count it as two runs?

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [bpcbuilder] [ In reply to ]
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[do you shower after each run or do you like hanging out in sweaty clothes? ]
Who has time to shower seriously?
:)

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Hmmm... what's really cool about the 100 in 100 is that I didn't know the ST training log program existed. BONUS!

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I am in, but not to go for 100/100 as my year is farther along with IM Utah not too far off. I think 90/100 will be close to my training plan...



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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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With Boston and Triple-T Ohio looming, it's the kick in the pants I need to get it going again. Me and my dog are in!
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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for a strange reason it reminds me of the joke:
if you drive in pitch balck road and see two lights coming in front of you how do you know if it's two motorcycles or a truck?
Answer: you just keep driving. If you passed by the 2lights then it's two motorcycles. But what if I don't pass by??? Then it's a truck!

Thank god for this challenge. I will try not to imploy this mentality on the challenge this year and stay injury free.
GS
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I am in! 14 hours to the first run!
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I'm on board. Shooting for a solid silver, around 85/100, but the occasional 2x a day should get me closer to gold.

Is it safe to assume that showshoeing qualifies under the prescribed rules, namely both feet off the ground at all times?
At least 2/3 of my 1-hour loop is flat singletrack - great for opening up, and a hell of a lot better than the dreadmill.

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [bpcbuilder] [ In reply to ]
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What I suggest is this: talk to Rappstar, and tell him that it's not 0 or 1. It's not, you did a run, or you didn't if you run 29.30...Tell him there are degrees of having done the run.
From 30 and on, it's 1.
29, maybe it's .95...
In other words decide why your membership function is...then you implement it, write a little piece of code and a nice GUI, that way when someone ran 25, he/she can select 'I did a something that was nearly a run'...
Of course, you have to set a cut off somehwere...maybe 15min...but then someone will come and say 'hey that's stupid, I ran 14.30, it should be a .01 run'...so you can now implement a 2nd order fuzzy set approach (you have fuzziness on the bounds)...

Deal?

Dev is doing this for fun...if you ran 28min, just say you ran 30min and the problem is fixed.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [Francois] [ In reply to ]
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What I suggest is this: talk to Rappstar, and tell him that it's not 0 or 1. It's not, you did a run, or you didn't if you run 29.30...Tell him there are degrees of having done the run.
From 30 and on, it's 1.
29, maybe it's .95...
In other words decide why your membership function is...then you implement it, write a little piece of code and a nice GUI, that way when someone ran 25, he/she can select 'I did a something that was nearly a run'...
Of course, you have to set a cut off somehwere...maybe 15min...but then someone will come and say 'hey that's stupid, I ran 14.30, it should be a .01 run'...so you can now implement a 2nd order fuzzy set approach (you have fuzziness on the bounds)...

Deal?


Hold on...is this a serious suggestion? Why does a simple, straightforward challenge have to turn into complicated GUI implementation and code development just because someone can't/doesn't want to follow the parameters?

You wanna participate in the challenge? Great, then run 30+ minutes for all your runs. You can't do that? Fine, then work toward that as a goal this year and participate next year.

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Dev is doing this for fun...if you ran 28min, just say you ran 30min and the problem is fixed.


No, if you ran 28 minutes then why the hell didn't you run 2 more minutes? Seriously, this thing is not complicated: 30+ minutes? Log it. Less than 30, but paired with another <30 run? log it. Less than 30 by itself? Don't log it. Done.

If this was a sarcastic post then I apologize, but stuff like this pisses me off. Why make Rappstar/Dev/whoever bend over backwards to cater to people who can't make the distances? Not every challenge--on this board and in general--is going to cater to everyone, if you can't do it then work toward it. Just don't bitch and whine about how unfair something like this is, it's pathetic.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [Brownie28] [ In reply to ]
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Please go read http://www.slowtwitch.com/...-is-how-we-do.it.pdf

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Please go read http://www.slowtwitch.com/...-is-how-we-do.it.pdf

Written all in pink.


If this was a sarcastic post then I apologize,

Sometimes it's hard to tell, sorry. Most of my point still stands though: this thing is simple and is designed to get people running during the winter, it should be a fun challenge, there's no reason to bitch about parameters. If you haven't worked up enough base to do it this year then set it as a goal next year.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [Brownie28] [ In reply to ]
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Well, if you'd read all my previous posts, you'd know! (ok, this was sarcastic too...sorry...it's Xmas, I won't do it for 1hr as a punishment)...
;-)
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [Brownie28] [ In reply to ]
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Not sure why the rules of participation are interfering with people's ability to undertake sub-0:30 runs ... as if the existence of a challenge is some sort of binary ultimatum. Seems that anyone desparate enough for the acknowledgement should have no moral issue with tacking on a couple minutes of their walking cooldown to reach the minimum time. Of course, I'm not advocating, just speculating.

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Hey, where is the love for the defending champ, I expected my name in big shiny flashing letters! ;-)

I will do this again because well ... I kinda can't stop these things!
I won't be going crazy like last year, I am planning a more swim, bike focused winter this year and no spring marathon. Running will be secondary, having said that I should still have a pretty high frequency as I run to work (every day), I just won't have the long runs on the weekends and the triple run days like last year.

Thanks for organizing this again.

Good luck to all and one final piece of advice: re-read # 9 on Dev's list of Do's and Don'ts, in this case slow and steady will win your race.

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [burnman] [ In reply to ]
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Is it safe to assume that showshoeing qualifies under the prescribed rules, namely both feet off the ground at all times?

Both feet off the ground at all times? Levitating should gain you extra credit in my opinion.

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [burnman] [ In reply to ]
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Burnman...when you are running with both feet off the ground on every stride and have achieved "lift off" how you choose to penalize yourself by a variety of appendages, be they snowshoes, Newtons, Saunconys, Fins or ankle weights is none of the concern of the challenge. If you achieve flight on every stride, you're good to go and count that time/distance :-)
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I was pretty excited about doing this until this weekend when my gigantic friend Tonye landed on my foot playing basketball and ruined my left big toe...

I've got another "Can this count?" question though. So what if I go for a 2 hour run, can that count as a two since you have a 30 minute run, 60 minute spent doing some running, then another 30 minute run? Its better than McDonalds...
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [sevans] [ In reply to ]
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Is it safe to assume that showshoeing qualifies under the prescribed rules, namely both feet off the ground at all times?

Both feet off the ground at all times? Levitating should gain you extra credit in my opinion.

Nice catch .... or maybe I just know something that you don't :)

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [_EH_] [ In reply to ]
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Eh does 30 mins on his way to the bathroom. He's a running machine. ( How's that? )
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [jime] [ In reply to ]
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It is a long way to the bathroom here... you just gave me a idea ;-)

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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 I am in

This will be good and Hard for me since I am a plus-size 40 yr old woman.. BUT I have been consistently doing a push-walk-run for 3 months now... so I just need to make sure 30 minutes is non-stop running.. no walking.. This will be the hard part.. but maybe I have been babying myself.. or as a friend says teaching my body to be endurable & training it to go slow... I'll be noting my daily runs on twitter under the same name. Thanks for the challenge!!
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in! This will be my first challenge - I've only been running for about 4 months now, so I'm certainly not aiming for 100. I'm just hoping this will help keep me motivated to stay consistent with it when I start my medicine residency in 3 weeks. Like Dev said, it's all about making time, even during my 80hr work weeks - at least that's the goal!
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in. Hope to get to 90/100.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in for my first 100/100. It's been 3 very lazy weeks since IMAZ, so I'm not going to rush into it. Shooting for 85-90.
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Hey, where is the love for the defending champ, I expected my name in big shiny flashing letters! ;-)


I think you were the frequency champ. I was the mileage champ, beeeyotch.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [JoeO] [ In reply to ]
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a mere formality, oh and you did to many treadmill runs so your mileage should be cut by 1/3 ;-)
How you like them apples!

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [_EH_] [ In reply to ]
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:-)
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [JoeO] [ In reply to ]
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Joe
Are you prepping for Boston again?
If so I think you will get that "weak" mileage trophy again :-)

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [_EH_] [ In reply to ]
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Yeah I'm running Boston. Mostly because I live in the area and it's there. I try to do lots of mileage in the winter regardless though.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [JoeO] [ In reply to ]
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Running an early season Marathon: how does it effect your bike training? I guess Boston is early enough that you can catch up on your bike mileage in late April and May.
The problem I had the last couple of years is: my marathon is last week of May, so that really threw a wrench in my bike training. I felt like come tri season I was always trying to catch up on the bike training.

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [_EH_] [ In reply to ]
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Before last year, I never biked at all in the winter. I just ran. So the one day of cycling a week I did last winter was a huge improvement over nothing. As soon as Boston was over, I really cranked up the cycling. But even so, I played catchup all summer last year. It wasn't until July that I really rounded into good cycling shape.

This winter I'm aiming for 3 days a week. So it's should not be that hard to fit in the running. It's just the swimming that tends to suffer.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Glad that you did not mess with the rules with regard to treadmills as that would have made it more difficult for me when I am on the road. Going for 100. Think I was 96 last year and 117 the year before. As I plan on taking days off and at least one ski trip with no running I will do some doubles.

I like your comments about not starting off too fast. Always fun to watch people go out huge and then disappear in early January. Similar to watching people go out really hard on the bike in an IM ;-)
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [Chris G] [ In reply to ]
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This will be my first shot at 100 in 100. Just curious to see if I will be ridiculed for 6 KM double runs to/fro work at 5 times per week (plus my longer run on the weekend). Is this acceptable to the ranks or am I just a fake already??! Looking forward to the replies.
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I'd say that if you really do 2x6k runs 5 days a week and then run longer every weekend you will be studly in my book
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This will be my first shot at 100 in 100. Just curious to see if I will be ridiculed for 6 KM double runs to/fro work at 5 times per week (plus my longer run on the weekend). Is this acceptable to the ranks or am I just a fake already??! Looking forward to the replies.

Slow your commutes down to just over 8:00/mile, and you'll be on pace for sure victory in the 150/100. Unfortunately, that doesn't start until April so you'll have to do it all over again :)

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [burnman] [ In reply to ]
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Let's see if I can get this 100 in 100 under my belt before thinking about the 150 in 100 ;-)

Thanks for the great replies already!
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Just curious to see if I will be ridiculed for 6 KM double runs to/fro work at 5 times per week (plus my longer run on the weekend). Is this acceptable to the ranks or am I just a fake already??!
that is exactly what I did last year and will do again this year, so no ridicule from me :-)
As the weather got better, I added a medium 17-20km run on Wednesdays.
Got an 8min PB on my marathon following that plan as well :-)
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Dev, kudos to you (and those you thank) for setting this up, very cool. Just what I need to get myself back in gear.

Happy Holidays everyone!
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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fuck it...I'm in. No idea what to shoot for, but I have been running frequently 5-6 days per week, for the last 8 weeks. Had been building really really slow with lots of 15-20 minute runs and just stretched a long run out to a measly 45 minutes last night. I will be slow as shit for a long time, but I think I can sneak into Silver, it was already the plan anyway.

I think I will also plan to do the 100K/month swim challenge, 2500mi/month bike challenge and P90x (doubles) all at the same time.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [_EH_] [ In reply to ]
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I am out for the first week due to a litttle nagging left achilles. it should not be too serious expect to be running within the next week so I may adjust the goal slightly.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [Mike C] [ In reply to ]
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Wonderful timing. My heroin dealer just got punked so this OCD exercise thing times out well.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [Trihumor] [ In reply to ]
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Huey Lewis wrote a song about this a few years ago I think....
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [Mike C] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in. We'll see how many I make and actually log this year, last year I ran a lot more than I logged. It also ends two days before I need to be in Vegas for 4th degree testing, w00t!

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Ok, I'll try this again. I managed 100/100 last year, even went 1 or 2 over I think. I seem to be able to do the frequency but I'm slow and didn't get a lot of mileage out of it. Frequency is not my ultimate goal, just a route to getting more distance and time as Dev suggests. If I fall short of a lot of speed or distance increases though, like last year, I'll settle for some decent frequency and count it a personal success. Luckily, the rules of this challenge also call that a success. :) I did get some PB results this past racing season and I'm sure last year's challenge helped. Thanks again Dev.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I'll give it a shot. But only shooting for 70-80/100.
Last edited by: instigator: Dec 14, 09 15:15
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [instigator] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in, got 7 miles planned for tomorrow morning. I have a busy week and weekend ahead with it being opening weekend for wrestling so I want to get some miles in in case life gets in the way later this week.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [relic44] [ In reply to ]
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I think that is some solid running. O' course if you do it in, say, 28 minutes a run, you only get to count 1. :-)
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [_EH_] [ In reply to ]
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Oh baby, Joe and Ewan going at each other before the opening bell. This is gonna be brutal.

Is it tomorrow somewhere yet? Should I stay up till midnight and get#1 in? Nah, I'll get up early instead.

My only hope for fame is a blizzard with white-out conditions sometime in late January.

Have fun everybody. Be safe.
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There are a couple of folks with runs posted already. Bloody Aussies I bet. Dammit, looks like I'll have to run twice tomorrow.

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There are a couple of folks with runs posted already. Bloody Aussies I bet. Dammit, looks like I'll have to run twice tomorrow.

Not to worry. We in the west will get our revenge in late march when their 100th day ends and ours begins.

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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its 10:30 am here in asia the 15th LOL

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There are a couple of folks with runs posted already. Bloody Aussies I bet. Dammit, looks like I'll have to run twice tomorrow.


On the money, mate.
It's hot here. I was sweating before I ran.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [jime] [ In reply to ]
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This is like Ali and Foreman going at it (the heavyweights warming up before the rumble)!!!
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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There are two new members of the Slowtwitch family that I recruited for this challenge. One of them started today. She needs a bit of a lesson in how to read a calendar.

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [JenHS] [ In reply to ]
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someome (instigator) already has two runs in. WTF? I see how it is.... glad i tapered.

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in too then. My aim for the year is to humiliate you all through the year. I've started taking drinking classes. I'll kill you at that too.
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and they live in the US. Not possible. Here we go already.

Only enter runs after you have completed them!!!!!!

Ok!......Ok.....
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [JenHS] [ In reply to ]
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Wait, JEN! Are you talking about me? I just assumed that the program that Rappstar made would have not started to calculate time/miles until 12:01am on Dec 15th... so I started entering other workouts I did this week because I just discovered the training plan. DING DONG.

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [Francois] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in too then. My aim for the year is to humiliate you all through the year. I've started taking drinking classes. I'll kill you at that too.


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Re: Dec 15th: We're ON 100 Runs in Run Days Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Ok, I know I am not very bright, I need a little assistance. I can't seem to enter in my daily run data. I have joined the challenge and can see the daily log but canoot put my gouge in!

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Re: Dec 15th: We're ON 100 Runs in Run Days Challenge [mck414] [ In reply to ]
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Log Workout near the top
then enter info accordingly

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [JenHS] [ In reply to ]
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I've recruite my brother, his wife, my cousin, my fiance, and her sister-in-law for this challenge!

I made 88 last year, after getting over the flu and then having my wisdom teeth pulled, I am eager to begin. Can I win some sort of ridiculous-ness award based on the fact that I bumped of the surgery for my wisdom teeth extraction so as to be healed up in time to start this challenge? That's right, I scheduled surgery based on an anonymous internet running challenge!



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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [Tri N OC] [ In reply to ]
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LOL! Thanks, I will be sure to go slow then! It usually takes about 32-33 minutes so I am good. Speed work is for Sunday runs over the winter anyways - Hammertime lite for those Ottawans who are familiar with Rick Hellard's tri programs. This will make Monday runs in a lot slower.

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Re: Dec 15th: We're ON 100 Runs in Run Days Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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May I please join?
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [dennism] [ In reply to ]
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Darn - I was going to attempt the challenge this year, and woke up this morning with 102 fever :( Not a great way to start....
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Run 1 is in the books. 5 miles easy after a 2x20 on the trainer. 36 degrees with a nice drizzle. Progress...
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Wasn't there an average pace column last year? Any way to get that included?



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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [SwBkRn44] [ In reply to ]
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Ran 11.2 km this morning! I like this metric system thing, sounds much more impressive than saying 7ish miles!
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Re: Dec 15th: We're ON 100 Runs in Run Days Challenge [elund] [ In reply to ]
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elund,

by all means join in.

from the slow twitch main page, click on training log, from there click on challenges, under the 100/100 description click "join" inside the training log, you can log workouts and it will automatically put them in the 100/100 chart for you.
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Re: Dec 15th: We're ON 100 Runs in Run Days Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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First post and in!
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [Chris G] [ In reply to ]
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30 min bike + 60 min hard XC ski this morning...plan was to run at lunch time but just got yanked into a meeting (San Jose 9 am = noon in Ottawa)......seems like this happens daily....so will try to get the run done before dinner. Or I could just make a point and take a "rest day" on the first day of this thing.

I'm only 4 weeks away from "peak fitness" from Clearwater (1:28 half marathon off a 225W ave 90K ride) so I'm not feeling in a rush to 'whip myself into shape' as my fitness is way higher than normal for Dec 15th. If anything, I need to hold back on too much running and start slow.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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A rest day on 12/15 would be just plain weak. Taking it off will ensure that you have a crap season next year ;-)
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [Chris G] [ In reply to ]
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I am new to this 100 in 100 but what kind of leader takes the first day off??!!

Thought I would get a good start on the bantering as well ;-)
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Re: Dec 15th: We're ON 100 Runs in Run Days Challenge [magda] [ In reply to ]
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welcome mag.......enjoy the baloney.......
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Good Thinking Dev - Take the week off.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [Frank Ferrari] [ In reply to ]
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First run in 6.1 mils in 40 minutes. This evening 4 miles easy planned.

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [Frank Ferrari] [ In reply to ]
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Frank, If I take another week off running my FTP might go up to 310 (not quite ST 400, but up at 5W per kg) :-) :-) :-).....I think you really want me to start running soon, or I'll have a 20 minute lead on you out of T2 in a half IM, and then I can moonwalk the run to win the smackdown :-)
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Man I am going to enjoy having you in my age group!
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [ChristyTris] [ In reply to ]
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That was an error on logging date. I am just starting to use the log and accidently entered last Thursday's (Dec 10) runs under this Thurs (Dec 17). Its all fixed now so I am down to 0. Since I slept through this mornings run, I hope to log run 1 later tonight.
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Re: Dec 15th: We're ON 100 Runs in Run Days Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in, logged my lunch run, the plan is 5-6 days per week average. 1 deg C, light fluffy snow in the air, trails were like skating on mud, perfect.

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [bmanners] [ In reply to ]
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Logged my first run.

And now I've posted my first message.

This has turned into a big day!
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [Frank Ferrari] [ In reply to ]
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You just motivated me to train. I forgot for a moment that I am going from the slow 40-44 age group to the fast 45-49 on Jan 1.....can I slack off for 16 more days?
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [instigator] [ In reply to ]
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Mmmmhmmmm......

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [meganruns] [ In reply to ]
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I was calling out btmoney and happyfeet. They both confessed to their transgression on Facebook.

I've got a trail run on the schedule tonight. Should be wet and cold. Dark too. Great way to kick off the challenge!

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [SwBkRn44] [ In reply to ]
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Wasn't there an average pace column last year? Any way to get that included?


I think they took it out and replaced it with the points thing. I didn't really miss it but even if I did, trying to add it back in would make a page which already takes too long to load take all that much longer.
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You're right, the page does load VERY slowly.

I know the points thing is Slowman's thing, so it's cool. Just seems totally useless to most and it was cool to track progress over the months seeing your average pace fall.



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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [SwBkRn44] [ In reply to ]
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I think that the points thing is there to put overall training into perspective. When you look at challenges the cream rises to the top and makes the average joe look pretty ..... well ..... average. But when you consider overall points, a lot of the front runners in the challenge fall to MOP. So, in reality, it's just another one of Slowman's whiney, liberal, 'everybody's a winner' consolation prizes for the losers among us. :)

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So, in reality, it's just another one of Slowman's whiney, liberal, 'everybody's a winner' consolation prizes for the losers among us. :)

Damnit Slowman, quit this welfare system and bring back to pace column!



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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [SwBkRn44] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in for this game. I doub't I'll get to 100 runs; 70 may seem more manageable...

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [burnman] [ In reply to ]
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Personally I did like the average pace column, some days and other days I did not. I found that the average pace column could be a motivators on fast days but worked against me on easy days when I would intrisically start running faster than I should have....and frankly after 40 days your average pace is more or less locked down for the entire challenge....it takes a herculean effort to drop it in the second half by any reasonable amount.

"But when you consider overall points, a lot of the front runners in the challenge fall to MOP."

Actually this is untrue. I have participated in all of the ST challenges this year except for a few of the swim ones (kind of pointless when you swim 0-2x per week). What I have seen is that the front runners in every challenge be they run, bike or total points also happen to be the same guys doing the most overall training (aerobic points). Here is an example: http://training.slowtwitch.com/...allengeType=distance

You can also look at the May bike Challenge or June points challenge (well, that one is obvious) to see who did what.

They also happen to be the guys (relative to others in the challenges) finishing up near the front of actual races. Anyway, it is what it is.

I'm somewhat indifferent about the aerobic points thing. It clearly favours someone like me who happens to inherently train more than most of you guys, but I don't do these challenges to chase positions on a spreadsheet. I just do what I'd normally do to train for events or to enjoy the training aspect of my life and it is interesting to see what friends worldwide are up to, without physically having to be in Tokyo, Sydney, Columbo, Berlin, Rotterdam , DC, Boulder or Seattle on a given day :-).
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I actually think the average pace thing is possibly even counter productive for that reason. When the column was up there, I would always notice whenever my average pace dropped a bit due to a slow run or two. I would think about it. I don't think is too helpful because average weekly pace doesn't (in my opinion) mean a damn thing. It's particularly counter-productive if it starts makes you concerned with the pace of your every day runs or -- even worse -- motivating you to run them any faster. That's pointless in running outside of a speed workout.

When I first started training with a Garmin, I very quickly learned to set up a screen that did not show any pace or splits. Just distance, time of day, and possibly heart rate or GPS accuracy or some other such field. This is what I use for my everyday runs. It allows me to relax on a training run and just concentrate on form.

Whenever I used to have the "last lap" split on there, I would invariably start noticing it and pick up the pace without even realizing I was doing it. Perhaps the rest of you are immune to that but I am not.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [TX McLuvin] [ In reply to ]
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welcome to the PARTY!
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Speaking of 45-49 AG, I logged 2 runs today (and swam 2000 yards, which for me is A LOT, and still 2000 yards more than ML has swum since September).

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [JoeO] [ In reply to ]
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"....Perhaps the rest of you are immune to that but I am not...."

No they/we are not. You are 100% correct that the only time pace matters is during intervals (split times) or races. The rest of the time, it is meaningless.

Tetsuoni, both my swim speed and swim plan resemble ML's....did you see my pathetic Clearwater swim split?

OK, I ran today. Nice run 48 minutes 10K with some light snow coverage with 4x90 second "not so steep" hills (just took them steady).
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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You laid out the trap and I fell into it.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I am in and did an easy 6km run this morning after my swim,just as the sun was coming up. There was about 3 inches of fluffy snow on the trail and my dog had a blast. Picture perfect for the first run in the ....

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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Executed plan 6.1 miles this morning threshold run 4.25 mile recovery run tonight. First mile in 9min 30 sec and next 3.25 IDK had to be around 8 min or 8 fifteen min mile. Average HR was 136 bpm. Came home had a cup of coffee and ice cream cone with kiddies and wife. tommorow @ 5 a.m. 5-6 miles run and 1000 meters in pool then evening run. Anyway having fun if i could keep up for 2-3 weeks as planned will have my first 70 mile run weeks. Looks like I need to stock up on shoes.

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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After I posted, I actually looked back at two of the previous challenges and saw the same trend you pointed out - so I stand corrected. IMO, the pace chart could either be considered harmless or detrimental, but probably not highly beneficial. Once you mix in AR runs, high frequency, and eventually intervals/speedwork - then consider what kind of shape most folks are in at this time of year - the results could appear convoluted, leading some to respond by pushing too hard. For those in good form, it could be a periodic motivator, but probably wouldn't tell you much that you already didn't know from your own progress tracking. And as you said, once you're a few weeks in, the table is set, and it will take a herculian effort to drive the average pace lower.

First run of the challenge tonight ... easy 8:00 pace for 8.5 miles. Felt good and productive, but busted my ass on some black ice coming back into the neighborhood (still wondering why someone would hose down their driveway to clear snow in 20F weather). The slop on the shoulders and sidewalks will warrant the use of my trail runners from now on. Apparently, the slumping economy and dwindling DOT budget aren't conducive to plowing more than once a week. Winter is here, and I've embraced her.

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [JenHS] [ In reply to ]
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At the end of run 1 of 100 tonight I did something to my ankle and now I am limping like crazy. Maybe I'll only have 1 run in 100 days. :-(
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [Herbert] [ In reply to ]
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Run #1 I just ran for 32 mins, nice and easy. Feeling good after Cozumel. Here you go B.

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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SLOW AND STEADY MAN!
I already missed day one. Wtf. doubling up tomorrow so I'm back on track, but shiiiiiit that is not a good way to start the 100in100 challenge. Did you see the icon I made for my website? http://www.endurancemeg.com

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [Herbert] [ In reply to ]
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Ice, elevate, rest tomorrow then quit whining and get back out there. Wink

I got in my first run tonight. Pouring rain, night run on a local mountain. It was raining so hard I could barely see where I was going and mostly just crossed my fingers I wasn't going to trip over something. My breath was causing the light from my headlamp to bounce back into my face so really, I was running pretty blind for a while there. Managed not to fall though! 5 miles in around an hour. Didn't check my watch.

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [jime] [ In reply to ]
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Today has been an awesome day. Stayed up until midnight last night/this morning and started the first run at 12:20 in 10 degree F weather. Then this evening I got in run #2. Haven't run since it got cold last week, and this challenge is just what I needed. One year ago I signed up for this challenge but couldn't make it through the first week. This year 40 pounds lighter I am ready! 2 runs down, 98 to go!
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Woohoo in first for now. Ran a 21 min 5k this m0rning then finished 0ff run at 40 min 15 sec0nds @ 6.35 miles. Then went for swim felt great on legs. Only swam 15minutes sh0ulder feels g00d. Doubling up later tonight icing legs now.

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C0ngrats 0n b0th races great rep0rt 0n c0zemel.Dudeu haves0me ugly feet. N0 0h 0n my daughters c0mputer s0 s0rry ab0ut that. H0pe y0u were able t0 swim with family after in mexic0 and have a fun time.Have a Merry Chirstmas.

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Slack off? Not a chance mate! Today started with an EZ run to the pool, and this arvo has a track workout in a snow storm by the looks of it. Not fond of running the curve on a wet track!



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Re: Dec 15th: We're ON 100 Runs in Run Days Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Just a quick post to say hi and introduce myself ...

I'm a newbie to all this "serious" stuff, and was searching around for some way to maintain momentum and build up slowly. As I noticed the big 5 oh approaching, I decided that I needed to get going on something serious before it's "too late". Si I decided a couple of years ago to start with running by using my daily commute (about 3.5 hilly miles.)

Over the past year I've built up to 4 days per week and 2 weeks ago entered my first race: the Course de l'Escalade in Geneva (7.25 hilly kilometers) and pleased myself by beating my 35 minute target. I felt so much better after than I imagined I would, and came over all inspired ... and I decided to sign up for this challenge in the hope that it will keep me from giving up over the cold dark months (I ran in snow at 8am this morning.)

Assuming I survive the 100 in 100, I'd appreciate any tips from the many experienced folk out there on where I should aim next ... should I work next on increasing my mileage, my speed, should I add swimming (I already swim once per week) or cycling (I do own a bike ... I'm sure I've seen it somewhere) or something else?

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I would suggest picking a couple of races in the summer (5k & 10k perhaps or a sprint tri) and focusing on those events. Your running base should set you up for some decent speed work that will help your 5k/10k races, and if you decide to do a tri, a sprint does not require huge volume or base to prepare for unless you set a goal that is a huge step up from where you are now. I would suggest just picking some events you want to go hard, have fun and see what the output actually is. From there, add in the expectation of improving on those performances.

Welcome to the fun!



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Re: Dec 15th: We're ON 100 Runs in Run Days Challenge [madfuzu] [ In reply to ]
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Initially don't increase from 4x per week to any more than 5x per week...then in the second third of the challenge 6x per week. You might be able to get up to 7x per week with a double and a day off later in the challenge, but take is slow.

Lots of guys will start with a "sprint" and flame out before Jan 15th. We can pretty well assure you of that. The carrot of this challenge will put more people in the hurt locker and wreck their season than it will give PB's.

Thats not the fault of the challenge. Its the fault of the drivers driving the chassis harder than it is ready to be driven. Those that drive the chassis sensibly will end up with PB's next year. Only you know what that is and are the only one inside your body feeling the aches and pains in the morning when you walk downstairs.

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That was my fate in 2007, running well for 6 weeks, then going out like a flame. I plan to start slow this season and finish this challenge for once.

Although, I was clicking around yesterday and saw my ranking change from 11th to 10th. A thought came into my head that with not much work, I can actually lead the "race" and bask in internet glory for a few days...


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Re: Dec 15th: We're ON 100 Runs in Run Days Challenge [BottomFeeder] [ In reply to ]
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same here, even worst for me..strained my knee which made my first du for 2009(march) a walkfest and just stopped running in june and started 4 weeks back with 10min run/jogs to 20mins and the last two days have been great but legs are a little sore so will take it easy after work today and just ride.
Did make it to the 60 day mark before injuring myself...

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Re: Dec 15th: We're ON 100 Runs in Run Days Challenge [dennism] [ In reply to ]
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similiar here. Although I made it to 89 last year the price was too high. Had a case of ITB which althogh I was able to recover failrly quickly it did stop my momentum completely and had to skip my early spring matrathon. This combined with allergies I get each spring really limited me to indoor cycling (coud'nt get near a pool..).
Hope for better and more balanced winter this year. Good luck.
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Plan to just log in the workouts and not concentrate more on the standings...simple but hard to not be a bit obsessive :)

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Re: Dec 15th: We're ON 100 Runs in Run Days Challenge [dennism] [ In reply to ]
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I will try not to chase the spreadsheet as well but not sure....
My biggerst mistake last year that once I felt better I pushed harder than I should on tempo intervals and speed work. I do most of my euns on a treadmill (some trails too) and just need to be carefull and listen to the signs my body gives me.
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Can't help myself. Every time I look at that damn spreadsheet it insists on telling me I am 98 times behind. My OCD kicks in and I must run.

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This morning I was #1 now back down to 5. DAMN here comes my OCD fit. MUST GO RUN ! ! ! !

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Re: Dec 15th: We're ON 100 Runs in Run Days Challenge [bmanners] [ In reply to ]
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The folks in the eastern hemisphere have the daily advantage of logging their workouts first, but we in the western hemisphere have the advantage of seeing the landscape and knowing where the competition stands. Both have their own inherent benefits, but in the end I think that being able to size up your opponent before you go into battle is the ultimate upper hand. To me, personally, both are irrelevant as my sites are set somewhere around a top 25-30 finish.

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So I wanted to get a clear definition of OCD and here is what I found.

Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is an anxiety disorder characterized by uncontrollable, unwanted thoughts and repetitive, ritualized behaviors you feel compelled to perform. If you have OCD, you probably recognize that your obsessive thoughts and compulsive behaviors are irrational but even so, you feel unable to resist them and break free. Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) causes the brain to get stuck on a particular thought or urge.

I hope I didn't scare anyone, although there is definetly a little bit of relevance here.
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"....To me, personally, both are irrelevant as my sites are set somewhere around a top 25-30 finish...."

OK, I have to pick on you again and say this is silly. If the top 50 people happen to do 2000K of running each over 150 runs, are you going to automagically up your mileage and frequency to get into the top 25-30?

Maybe your post was in pink font, but people, please listen to me.
  1. Set your own goals based on the fitness and base you have and your desired racing goals.
  2. Use the challenge for motivation and execute on your plan.

Or as I say at work....focus on our own strategy, not the competition. If we focus on ourselves and our own execution we'll likely beat the competition anyway cause we focus on what we can do within our own capabilities, our control and strengths.....reactive behaviour to competitive actions usually is a failing strategy if you want to play offense.

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Thanks for the encouragement.

I found a 5/10k scheduled locally on March 21 to aim for. But how does one decide whether to go for the 5k or 10k?

I'm hoping to average 8 runs (there and back 4 days) per week which is at the top end of the range I've been doing for the last few months. With ice and snow (like this week) I'll sometimes do a slower 5th day ... rather than risk more serious injury by getting on the motorbike.

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Can't help myself. Every time I look at that damn spreadsheet it insists on telling me I am 98 times behind. My OCD kicks in and I must run.


I'm in. I too, am 98 times behind, why is that? I might end UP 98 times behind but right now it should be just 2 or 3.....

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Of course, I wouldn't recommend blindly attempting to outrun others, particularly if one is going to run oneself into the ground. But if it is silly to set his sights on a finishing place, it also kinda silly to rank people in the first place.

It's creating a competition and then saying, "don't compete".
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I totally agree with you. There are too many variables to consider then just have rankings. Since we have the total points, freq. and dist. columngs, a ranking is a personall thing, not a simple absulute figure (all think considered).
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Pink font wasn't intended, but the statement should have ended with "top 25-30 finish at best" signifying (for me) the irrelevance of who's on top today, yesterday, or tomorrow. Selecting the top 25-30 is arbitrary (since I can't predict the performance of any single participant) and much more an admission that I have no desire to jockey for a top position. I'm fully capable and intending to run a lot this winter, but I make no assumptions about whom or how many folks will come in ahead of (or behind) me on day 100. To train or race like that is a recipe for disaster. When I leave T1 in a race, the last thought on my mind is that 1/3 of the field is already on the bike, though that's usually the case. Instead, I forge ahead, at my pace, and take down whatever percentage of that 1/3 rides+runs slower than me. It's never 100%, but as long as it's greater than 0% I can probably live with myself.

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Say that again when it's the last day, you're in 6th place, and you know that a 23 mi run will put you in 3rd! Whatcha gonna do?!


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Of course, I wouldn't recommend blindly attempting to outrun others, particularly if one is going to run oneself into the ground. But if it is silly to set his sights on a finishing place, it also kinda silly to rank people in the first place.

It's creating a competition and then saying, "don't compete".

I think you both make valid points, but at the end of the day I wasn't remotely implying that I've sized up the competition and I will end the challenge in position X. That's not to say that in 5-6 weeks one couldn't make those predictions since the positional 'noise' will be attenuated by long-term averaging. Once that time comes, I think it's reasonable for everyone to look at their condition/performance and set realistic goals about either maintaining their relative ranking or trying to move ahead by some attainable order. Now is not that time - though I do fully enjoy any and all smack talk that comes of individual predictions :)

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Without reservation, I would finish out my scheduled run, and celebrate the fact that I had successfully completed the challenge in pretty good form. I will make a definitive prediction and guarantee that you will not see a 23 mile run on any day of my log - much less the last day.

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"...That's not to say that in 5-6 weeks one couldn't make those predictions since the positional 'noise' will be attenuated by long-term averaging. Once that time comes, I think it's reasonable for everyone to look at their condition/performance and set realistic goals about either maintaining their relative ranking or trying to move ahead by some attainable order. Now is not that time - though I do fully enjoy any and all smack talk that comes of individual predictions :)...."

Yeah, that makes sense. In 6 weeks, you will actually know where your average weekly rates fit in with who has showed up to the challenge and then you can certainly feed off the guys running in the same volume range without doing yourself in. That's when you can use the challenge standings for motivation safely. I know many people who were in that boat last year. They ended up identifying the 10 folks around them in the category they cared about and would feed off the other person which can certainly be a good thing That's kind of the point of any training camp, except in a real training camp you end up pushing or being pushed by athletes of similar abilities. The spreadsheet will tell you who is similar, but only after several weeks :-)

Please note, all these warning and suggestions come after watching some pretty destructive behavior over the past few years. I'd rather table some of these thoughts now. Consider it like the track coach standing in the middle of the infield shouting at athletes doing dumb things taking it out too hard, too soon, too often.

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I am fully in tune with my body and am in full blown out self destruct mode. Fortunatly for me I am like Bruce Willis in the movie where he is a Penn state security guard "UNBREAKABLE". Just did my second run and lets see where it places me going to log right now. Keep in mind Dev i have worked this base non stop since last 100/100 and have done some 60 mile weeks already. So with the proper rest between run's and smart pacing I should be good to go with a few 70 mile weeks.


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just did a 19:11 5k, then jogged another mile really slowly for my 30 for the day.
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B is on fire already and it's only day #2. Dev is gonna get pissed if you don't calm down and train sensibly. lol.....

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I got a plan jim. One faster 10k or lil better in morning and 4 mile and change recovery run in evening for three weeks. This morning run I was kicking ass for me, first 5k was around 20 min. 48 secs and second 3.34 miles was done in 19 minutes 22 seconds. I broke 40 minute 10k barrier albiet it was on dreadmill but... Recovery run felt great in cold weather. Ran past my fav tomato pie place ( Delorenzo's) and saw all the neighb's fattening themselves up. Having fun !!

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My goal is simple. Run. Not worry about standings, speed, etc. Just go for a run, 100 times in 100 days.

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Uh oh, you are in 2nd now. Better go run again.

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Nope I have to stick to my plan. By any chance do you have a good recipe for banana's foster ? seriuosly my kid had it the other night and loved it.. How the new bike /I want pics ! !

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So I was really excited about starting this challenge after a long layoff due to the onset of some sedentary habits. I went for my first run after getting my left knee hyperextended in a freak accident and it felt alright - sore, but no more pain than standing still before the run. After that morning run, I went to see the doctor and was diagnosed with a medial meniscus tear. I'm waiting for a MRI to confirm (it could just be a bad strain) but what I'm wondering is if I can keep running. Walking doesn't really hurt, just straightening my leg completely and climbing up and down stairs.

I don't want to get "caught up in the challenge" but I was really enjoying the idea of going for maybe the silver or bronze with some strategic rest days. I can't bike because the 90 degree angle of the pedal stroke mimics the pain of climbing stairs.

Anyone have a similar knee issue and successfully run through it?

All opinions are appreciated.
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I say wait to see what your doc say's and then maybe go to a sports specialist and see what he say's.

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Tomato pie???? that dosent sound good, maybe im missing something, but im thinking of like an apple pie...but with tomatoes?????
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Think pizza .... undercooked and without cheese. Where I live it's apparently a local specialty, but really I think that people around here were just bad at making pizza and said "F*ck it, we'll stick with the part that even morons like us can't screw up. Dough and sauce."

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banana's forster? WTF? That's not a good training meal.

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hmmmmm, undercooked pizza with no cheese. dosent sound much better than what I was originally thinking. I guess i have to try it sometime, not many italians in my part of the country
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Does looking after my kids for a half hour count as a run? It should be worth double!

You and Cannonball are out of the blocks strong! I'm going for the slow and steady approach....starting with S L O W...but always steady:)

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Nope I have to stick to my plan. By any chance do you have a good recipe for banana's foster ? seriuosly my kid had it the other night and loved it.. How the new bike /I want pics ! !


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As for the bananas foster it is a pretty basic recipe. Keep it real simple. Melt some butter in a saute pan with brown sugar and cinnamon, cook until sugar dissolves, add bananas. Cook until they are soft and lightly browned, add some dark rum/ and or banana liqueur, flambee and serve over ice cream. Specific measurements are not my strong suit.

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The wrestling is going good I got my 5 yo old doing it now also. Though he his center of gravity is low and he has the balance of a Mtn. goat his attention and focus to a cordinated sport is not there. Funny enough at home if there is a problem with something he wont let anyone help him till he gets it on his own .Most of the time. As for my big grapevine champ 7 yo there is nobody his size there to wrestle in robbinsville. and he is intimidated in the fact he might hurt someone so he takes it to easy during wrestling practice. he probably has 6 inches and 15 pounds on every kid out there. Actually the banana fosters is for him. I have been working on getting faster and have been basically doing this same work out all year so I should be able o keep up doing it a 2 or three weeks then deflate back down and throw some nice slow long runs in. Todays 6.35 run was done at a medium tempo and recovery evening run will be just that basically 9 min per mile slow paced run. Hope you and your family are doing well also. Captain Canada thanks for the recipe i will try your way then try with a Jack Daniels your recipe jarred my memory of a banana flambe I used to make for the wife and i before children. They make a chain guide so you do not drop the chain with the rotor Q rings when going big ring to small ring. Not that we ever leave the big ring but you got some mountains around there it might be worth looking into. If i do not pepper mine it sometimes derails. I have the compact k force lights with the rotor Q rings on my steed.

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Tomato pie???? that dosent sound good, maybe im missing something, but im thinking of like an apple pie...but with tomatoes?????

When you come up I will treat you to some . It is basically a pizza very thin crust with all fresh ingrediants on it. My place here I can honestly say makes the best in the USA. They are even Zagat rated.

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OK, day 2 came and went and I took my first "rest day". This challenge is killing me. I'm on 50/100 pace right now so I have to live vcariously through all the stud already up at 4-5 runs!
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Can you tell me how to tell my wife I need to get out on Chistmas eve and christmas day to get double runs in each day? I think she knows I need at least one run each day.

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You do know that its the 100run/100day challenge, right? It's not the 250run/100day challenge!!!

Nice work! Are you running NJM or LBH this year? I'm doing NYC half and LBH.
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Dev, get out and do your run! IM France will haunt you if you don't do the work now... For me, I did an easy day...swim, core, easy bike and run. Nothing hard or fast, mostly drills in the pool, some strides on the run, but otherwise un remarkable.



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Same here. But for me it was a real rest day since I was a bit sick with a cold. no point to waste energy running or whatever.

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Same here. But for me it was a real rest day since I was a bit sick with a cold. no point to waste energy running or whatever.

Fred.

Given the state of mankind's descent into general lethargy, I would hardly qualify running as a waste of energy :) But if you're still feeling guilty about wasting energy running, I suggest that you buy a treadmill, convert the drive motor to an electric generator, and grind out some hard-earned joules. That way, no one can legitimately argue with your level of productivity.

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All the talk about not overdoing it makes me wonder ... I'm just doing my daily each way commute and finding myself near the top of this challenge at the moment (I'll slip back at the weekend because I don' t run, only swim at the weekend) but the talk is sensitizing me to the fact that perhaps I'm exposing myself to a risk that I'm unaware of.

Since I've never suffered a running injury (crosses fingers, touches wood, and sings a short mildly risqu sea shanty), I'm worried if my ignorance is making me too complacent about the risks. I've been focussing almost exclusively on building frequency over the last couple of years since I started running regularly. And with rare exceptions, I'm still doing one of my variations on the same 5.5km-ish commute between home and office. As my frequency approaches doing that consistently each way every single day, I find myself more often contemplating the need to focus elsewhere ... on upping the distance, the speed or trying another sport.

Where do folks find the greatest risks of running injury? Is it during competitions (I've only entered one race), or training? Is it with greater speed or distance, or is it usually due to "other" distractions ... for example: I ran into a chain strung across the entrance to a field at the end of road in the dark a couple of weeks ago ... it lifted me 3ft in the air and dumped me back on my feet ... winded me, but a slow jog home eased the lungs and aside from some small bruising around the rib cage I suffered no serious side effects. The cause was simply not paying attention. I run that route every day, so I know the chain is there! But in the dark, thinking of the words to my next sea shanty ...

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My plan is the same - RUN. Except I plan to run 70-80 out of the next 100 days. Well maybe 90 is things go well and it isn't too cold. All of this base will hopefully set me up for a strong run at the Clinton 30-miler in March and a 50 miler in the spring (when I find one that works with my schedule)>
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Yesterday I did a 85 min 1000 Kjoule CT ride. Today was 70 min 10x~3 min interval ride (CT Course intervals at 250-340W), averaging 233W (3.7W per kg) for the middle 50 minutes (includes rest interval). Got 900 KJ worth of work done in todays ride with warmup and cooldown (so approximately half of a half ironman bike effort) .

Since IM France is 4 weeks earlier than IMLP, and I have to race Desertdude at Wildflower in May, my plan is to keep working the bike through the winter. Frankly my running does not have that much upside in half Ironmans. My half IM's at the end of the year were 1:26 and 1:28. I'm not going to shave 5 minutes off those times, but I believe I can take 5 minutes off my half IM bike times compared to last year. My target is 800K over the 100 days. 10 down 790 to go :-) But you're right, that marathon on the promenade des Anglais will kill me if I don't do the run work now, so the work will happen. I'll run later today....currently minus 19 but brilliant sunshine!

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Where do folks find the greatest risks of running injury? Is it during competitions (I've only entered one race), or training? Is it with greater speed or distance, or is it usually due to "other" distractions ... for example: I ran into a chain strung across the entrance to a field at the end of road in the dark a couple of weeks ago ... it lifted me 3ft in the air and dumped me back on my feet ... winded me, but a slow jog home eased the lungs and aside from some small bruising around the rib cage I suffered no serious side effects. The cause was simply not paying attention. I run that route every day, so I know the chain is there! But in the dark, thinking of the words to my next sea shanty ...

Steve


The 1 or 2 days after a very hard running effort are the days which seem to present the biggest injury danger for me. It seems to be the time in which I am most susceptible to injury, You do a hard run, hard track workout or a race and it goes well. You feel like a million bucks. Even the next day you feel good. Tired maybe but tood. So maybe you don't run so easy on that easy day. Maybe the same thing the next day. Then you wake up and, "ouch", there's a minor pain in your achilles. Oh well, no problem. Just run through it. Then the next day, "ouch" again. Only it's a little worse. On and on. Now a day or two off doesn't seem to help. But you don't want to take longer than that. It gets worse and worse.

Also, on a longer run, the last 5 miles are another big danger or injury. Only you don't notice it then. You notice it the next day or two. You are tired. Your form might suffer a little without you even realizing it. But it's enough to start that same "ouch" cycle of a minor injury becoming a chronic one I just described.

The more mileage you do, the more letting your body go easy on easy days and take its sweet time to warm up become important.
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I ran this morning in Ottawa and it was -30'C with the windchill. Not that fun to start but loved it once the body started up as it was nice and sunny. Run home promises to be a little nicer - around 16'C - not including windchill! Oh the Canadian winter...
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Well, I don't know about you guys, but those seven miles I ran in the last two days just wore me right out. Also, it's cold out. So I'm taking a rest day.

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50 min at lunch today nice and steady, just feeling the aerobic points racking up. Even though it's overcast, it's still warm enough here to run without a shirt. I love soaking up sunlight, especially in winter.


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Wuss.

I'm actually on day 17 of a running streak. I'm headed back into the woods tonight. I'm sure it will be pouring rain and cold but it beats the treadmill. I did watch Julie/Julia last night while running my 50 minutes so it wasn't too bad.

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Tninking about the half put on by cgi at Rutgers campus and I am torn between the NJ state half and devilman half lite. Think the NJ state half is a week before or day before. Which one is the LBH is it Long branch ? and the date? Could be doable as I want to try to qualify for NYC and that is flat and fast on a windless day. So far I have only signed up for Philly oly distance tri and the NYC oly distance tri. Will definetly be doing NJ state tri spriny also. Want to nail down under 1hr 1min before moving to the oly there. Dont ask me why ,IDK... Also will do Hightstown sprint I have to defend my Ag win. LOL thinking also about the new sycuase half or rev in sandusky ohio. Depends if I can talk the wife into it. These tri's are starting to get exspensive on a firfighters salary. not to mention the 100.00 shoes I am going through every month to month in a half.

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Bottomfeeder.....Minus 18C for my run today...I get zero Vitamin D from the sun as there is about 10 square inches of skin exposed when bundled up for this. Definitely taking a Vitamin D supplement this winter. Any guys out there with recommendations? ..... (and please, no BALCO magic cream jokes :-) )
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Doesn't milk have Vitamin D?
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snuck out of the office at 3:45 to get an easy 30 minutes in....off to my christmas party. 30 minutes tomorrow might be a bit more difficult.
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I take 2000 milligrams a day. Dr said I have very low Vitamin D. I really notice the difference in my focus and energy when I take it.

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Rest day canceled due to temporary insanity. Will tentatively attempt to reschedule for sometime late March.

Short headlamp run after work. Wind chill of -6*F. (-21*C, for the metric types.)

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Rest day canceled due to temporary insanity. Will tentatively attempt to reschedule for sometime late March.

Short headlamp run after work. Wind chill of -6*F. (-21*C, for the metric types.)


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Did scheduled "recovery" run at High school track while son was at rastling practice. 4.30 miles at about a 830 minute pace. Boring as hell but done anyway. Going to be hard to get second run in 2morrow as I work nites. But where there is a type "A" there is a way :) Who is this plumb guy anyway that is making me look like a slouch. It was Plumb in the lavender room with a disc cover ?

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I don't use no disk covers. And I think I have only posted once in the Lavender Room. But I have been on here since the beginning.

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I would have used from conception myself but anyway. I am just having fun Mike. I know i am in over my head with gents of your caliber and its only a matter of time till I am swallowed up but i will not go with out a fight. LOL :) By the way have you ever played Clue ?

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I am so good at Clue that they named a character in the game after me ;-)

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This is pretty well as much "day 1" as you can get around the ST forum.


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Slowman's first generation of the website was called triathlonlive.com and then it morphed into Slowtwitch sometime after the Sydney Olympics. I kept reading the articles on the front page that were actually much more frequent than they are today....then several months later, I believe the forum appeared. Anyway, way back when, Slowman created a ton of content himself and through a number of his writers.

Now the content on the main page is less dynamic, but the forum is infintely dynamic. It would be interesting to see where the traffic is (front page of forum), cause if forum has more traffic, then slowman is indeed a genius, cause he's having all of us wankers create constant new content for him for free!!!!
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actually the forum had been up for about 4 days before I officially registered on it. But Dan and I were already friends long before the forum and even Slowtwitch had even existed.

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Re: Dec 15th: We're ON 100 Runs in Run Days Challenge [Mike Plumb] [ In reply to ]
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i haven't been timing myself and don't know the mileage but yesterday i'd guess about ten miles all around and back and around again to more back tracking around flooded streets and paths throughout bear creek park/eldridge/patterson/clay/hwy 6 and today a few miles around the block, maybe four miles.

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Re: Dec 15th: We're ON 100 Runs in Run Days Challenge [Mike Plumb] [ In reply to ]
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 Mike I hope I can hang with you for a while in this challenge. I guess only time will tell, E ither way I have a game plan and I am sticking to it. It is a honor to be up there with such distinguished (competent) runners like yourself , Dev, JoeO and othrs.I could not hold a birthday candle to you guys Now no more ass kissing from me and on with the thouroghly planned and trained for non-injury running fun. woo ........hope that last part made Dev feel better :) He has counseled me ( in a good way. ) a few times already with my newbish questions the past year and a half.

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Re: Dec 15th: We're ON 100 Runs in Run Days Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Dev, I'd say go to a tanning salon maybe once a week for 10-15 minutes. But do some research first - I have no idea how potentially harmful such exposure can be.


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Re: Dec 15th: We're ON 100 Runs in Run Days Challenge [bmanners] [ In reply to ]
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I've done a whopping 2 runs covering 22 K. I don't think I am a threat to anyone in this challenge as I'll only do ~800K if all goes well over 70-80 runs. My eyes are set on not getting my ass handed to me by Desertdude at Wildflower, so I will be riding more (as well as XC skiing my usual amount) this winter.
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Re: Dec 15th: We're ON 100 Runs in Run Days Challenge [Mike Plumb] [ In reply to ]
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Hay easy up on us old guys Mike (-:
have a great Christmas to
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Re: Dec 15th: We're ON 100 Runs in Run Days Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Dev - this is irritating the hell out of me. The subject of this thread is wrong:

We're ON 100 Runs in Run Days Challenge

Should be

We're ON 100 Runs in 100 Days Challenge

I know it is petty but can you fx it?

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Re: Dec 15th: We're ON 100 Runs in Run Days Challenge [JenHS] [ In reply to ]
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Dev - this is irritating the hell out of me. The subject of this thread is wrong:

We're ON 100 Runs in Run Days Challenge

Should be

We're ON 100 Runs in 100 Days Challenge

I know it is petty but can you fx it?


a bit like asking the police to charge Tiger's wife with assault with a deadly weapon...

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Re: Dec 15th: We're ON 100 Runs in Run Days Challenge [roadhouse] [ In reply to ]
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Etiquette my man, etiquette. No stalking your Lavender Room fights into the Main forum.
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Re: Dec 15th: We're ON 100 Runs in Run Days Challenge [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Dev felt real good this morning ran 40 min 35 sec. for 6.41 miles. I had the 10 k in 38 min. 30 sec. Then brought it down slowly to a walk. To bad it was on a dreadmill I hope it equates to the field in the spring. Did it right after a hour and 5 minutes on the spin bike also so it was a nice brick workout. Average Hr was 165 bpm and Max Hr was 175 bpm. I need to learn to pace and push myself that hard when on solid ground. Not forgetting about the bike just mixind it in with a bit more swimming.

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Re: Dec 15th: We're ON 100 Runs in Run Days Challenge [bmanners] [ In reply to ]
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Talking of translating pace on a treadmill to the field ...

My PR for 4 miles on a (flat) treadmill is 27 mins, but in the field (my hilly routes) I can only manage 29 mins. I assumed that wind resistance at these speeds was negligible and I could attribute all 2 mins of that difference to the hills. Is that a good assumption? Or is there a percent I should allow for the difference between the surfaces (I run mostly on tarmac [aka blacktop?]).
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Re: Dec 15th: We're ON 100 Runs in Run Days Challenge [madfuzu] [ In reply to ]
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  would say so that difference is because of hills and wind. Remeber if it is out and back the wind helps you too. They say a 1 to 2% incline on treadmill mimics the conditions outside the best.

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Re: Dec 15th: We're ON 100 Runs in Run Days Challenge [Tri N OC] [ In reply to ]
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Etiquette my man, etiquette. No stalking your Lavender Room fights into the Main forum.


originally i was kidding by doing that. anywho, it's looking like a great day to run in the cold.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Hey what's the deal with the "Last Workout" column? It's always wrong. It always shows that I did the exact same 6.5 mile run.

When I click it, it does take me to the actual last run I did but the number in the column of the challenge always says "6.5 mi", regardless of how long that last run was.
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [JoeO] [ In reply to ]
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Hey, I noticed the same thing last nite when I entered my second workout. The last workout feature was working on all challenges through the year, so don't know what is going on. Will confirm with Rappstar.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Hey, I noticed the same thing last nite when I entered my second workout. The last workout feature was working on all challenges through the year, so don't know what is going on. Will confirm with Rappstar.

Dev

That's my fault. If you recall a couple days ago, the site was very slow. There were some problems with the query that fetched the last workout. So I modified it, so it is much faster, but it is apparently not correct. I will work on it today...


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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Rappstar] [ In reply to ]
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Being a newlywed and all that, I am sure there are more pressing things at the top of your priority list than fixing a field called last workout for a bunch of anonymous internet tri geeks doing a virtual training camp. While we greatly appreciate the support, do it when it works for you. We all know our last workout and if we actually want to see some other guy's last workout, it is as easy as clicking on his name and looking through his/her profile
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Rappstar] [ In reply to ]
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That's my fault. If you recall a couple days ago, the site was very slow. There were some problems with the query that fetched the last workout. So I modified it, so it is much faster, but it is apparently not correct. I will work on it today...


Actually it's fine with me if you get rid of the column altogether. I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't see the last workout anyone did as being something that illuminating.

And I should say that I did notice and appreciate how much faster that page is.
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [JoeO] [ In reply to ]
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"Actually it's fine with me if you get rid of the column altogether. I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't see the last workout anyone did as being something that illuminating. "

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Being a newlywed and all that, I am sure there are more pressing things at the top of your priority list than fixing a field called last workout for a bunch of anonymous internet tri geeks doing a virtual training camp. While we greatly appreciate the support, do it when it works for you. We all know our last workout and if we actually want to see some other guy's last workout, it is as easy as clicking on his name and looking through his/her profile

Okay, all fixed now. It was a good brain exercise. I feel very clever as a result. ;)

Still should be very fast (though marginally less fast than before).


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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Rappstar] [ In reply to ]
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day off running for me.
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [JoeO] [ In reply to ]
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Actually it's fine with me if you get rid of the column altogether. I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't see the last workout anyone did as being something that illuminating.

I'll be a vote for liking it. When things shake out a bit in a few weeks it lets me keep track of my competition;-) Now, I know you could reasonably respond that I should be running to my own plan but, it helps motivate me.
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks for fixing the title. :-)

Got in another trail run in the dark last night. Lots of fun but it leaves me pretty wiped out. Was 10 minutes late for my 9:00 am meeting this morning. DOH!

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [IRONwolf] [ In reply to ]
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day off running for me.

Same here. I was ahead by a day, so I figure I'll use my energy to wrestle down a tree and take it home for the kids to decorate. In about 5 minutes I'm walking out the door for 2 weeks of vacation. Two weeks of family fun, trail running, snow shoeing, and tequila hangovers.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [burnman] [ In reply to ]
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Im a day ahead also, Im going for probably 80/100 since my IMCDA training starts around feb 7. The problem with logging the runs is it makes me want to NOT take a rest day even though I know I should.
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [IRONwolf] [ In reply to ]
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Triple up now.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [bmanners] [ In reply to ]
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Can someone explain how the points system works? And for that matter, why is there a points system? This isn't a competition between others (even though I am sure some like to make it that ways!)
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [IRONwolf] [ In reply to ]
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I always want a rest day. I work outside . It was cold in N NY today. But I ain't got but 3 miles to run today
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [bmanners] [ In reply to ]
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triple up...no way, last thing I need is an injury, im planning to just keep it easy till february then start going fast, ive been trying hard to keep my pase fairly slow. I don want to burn out in a month.
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [skyman] [ In reply to ]
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Can someone explain how the points system works? And for that matter, why is there a points system? This isn't a competition between others (even though I am sure some like to make it that ways!)

I believe the points system is a way to compare running to biking to swimming. You get points for logging mileage (or yardage). You get 1 point for every 400m of running, 100m of swimming or 1 mile of biking. When determining total amount of work done, it is a better method than using total time since we all know 1hr on the bike is not equivalent to 1hr running.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Jason P] [ In reply to ]
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Can someone explain how the points system works? And for that matter, why is there a points system? This isn't a competition between others (even though I am sure some like to make it that ways!)


I believe the points system is a way to compare running to biking to swimming. You get points for logging mileage (or yardage). You get 1 point for every 400m of running, 100m of swimming or 1 mile of biking. When determining total amount of work done, it is a better method than using total time since we all know 1hr on the bike is not equivalent to 1hr running.

Correct. You can do swim, bike, run or points challenges. A points-based challenge is the most relevant way to compare for triathlon-training.


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Can someone explain how the points system works? And for that matter, why is there a points system? This isn't a competition between others (even though I am sure some like to make it that ways!)


I believe the points system is a way to compare running to biking to swimming. You get points for logging mileage (or yardage). You get 1 point for every 400m of running, 100m of swimming or 1 mile of biking. When determining total amount of work done, it is a better method than using total time since we all know 1hr on the bike is not equivalent to 1hr running.


Correct. You can do swim, bike, run or points challenges. A points-based challenge is the most relevant way to compare for triathlon-training.


Thanks! I just started using the training log for the 100 day challenge and was not familar with how the points system worked.
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Rappstar] [ In reply to ]
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I think the only points based Challenges were the April Du Nationals Challenge and the June Steve Larsen Challenge.

Jordan, we should have a March-April get your ass in gear for Du Nationals/American Zofingen/Wildflower/St. Croix challenge covering 6 weeks :-)
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Rappstar] [ In reply to ]
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I just joined the challenge. I actually expect to do around 70 days, but no harm in joining.



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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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You should! DD is going to need some pre Wildflower ass kicking so he can crush dreams on the course.

Got in a slow trail run tonight with a new running partner. Learned a lesson in being too trusting just because we work at the same company. No threat but it did get weird when he was talking about his psychological problems and not being able to afford meds. Dude's life is a wreck. I must remember Mace when I run.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [JenHS] [ In reply to ]
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No threat but it did get weird when he was talking about his psychological problems and not being able to afford meds. Dude's life is a wreck. I must remember Mace when I run.

Ha! That'll pick up your average pace.

P.S. Forget the mace, go straight for the Pepper Spray. My sister carries this stuff that is like naplam in that it sticks to you and dyes your face florescent pink.
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [JenHS] [ In reply to ]
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I'm on a mission for Wildflower this year. I'm treating this as my spring "A" event and will then work towards a second set of "A" events in the late summer/fall (likely Esprit Half IM or Timberman). I'm going to actually pass up some XC ski training so as to arrive at Wildflower with proper bike fitness, although last nite I was eyeing an XC ski race in France (if only I had infinite vacation time). Run should hopefully be there. Swim will need some work in Mar/Apr.
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Nice run this morning snowing outside did 6.45 miles .05 was walking.. LOL Will hit 54 miles today with 2nd run today by end of week it should be around 75 miles total for first week !! Most i have ever done in a week has been 62 miles and that was with 2 or three long slow runs. Suprisingly to me doing the 6 mile and change run in morning and the 4 and change run in the evening my legs feel fresh. The bit advice you had given me let my legs recoup very well. Upper legs were pretty sore on less mileage but now feel great. Go figure... I might back off a bit next week after I feel out legs and see how they feel . If it is the same I see no reason now to back off other then time restraints with the holiday's.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [bmanners] [ In reply to ]
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Every so often, some hero decides to enter something really funky....check this out (cut and paste from his profile is a bit weird, but you get the picture.....8 and 7 hour runs covering 6.1K each!!!!):
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Loading... Saturday, Dec 19, 2009 Run 8 hr, 6.1 km Friday, Dec 18, 2009 Run 7 hr, 6.1 km
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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This has been fun for me (so far). Yesterday was a 6 - http://dirtyrunning.blogspot.com/2009/12/6.html.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [dax] [ In reply to ]
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I gotta say, this is my first Running Challenge and I am extremely impressed with some of the numbers going up this first week. I knew I was nowhere near the level of some of you on here--30 miles a week isn't gonna win much--but some of you guys are doing some insane volume...who the hell does 10 runs in 5 days?!? Well done, I can't wait to see how this looks in 90+ days.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [pshyclo] [ In reply to ]
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With Boston and Triple-T Ohio looming, it's the kick in the pants I need to get it going again. Me and my dog are in!

I feel the same way... regarding the dog.
She drags me out the door for a run everyday anyway.
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Jordan, we should have a March-April get your ass in gear for Du Nationals/American Zofingen/Wildflower/St. Croix challenge covering 6 weeks :-)[/reply]
that is a great idea
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [Robroo] [ In reply to ]
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I feel the same way... regarding the dog.
She drags me out the door for a run everyday anyway.


My 1.5yr old lab, Gunner, is the perfect training partner. He's always ready and brings tons of positive energy to the workout. The 14 inches of snow in the NC mountains were fun for us yesterday. Only managed a snowshoe hike for me but he was trashed after a few hours of bounding through the white stuff. Hopefully they've scraped the road and we can put on the snow spikes and double up today.
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [pshyclo] [ In reply to ]
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This snow threw me off track, although if it hadn't snowed I'd have been coaching for 14 hours a day all weekend which also would have cut into my running. Oh well I have been averaging 30 miles a week before the challenge started. And my fiancee just informed me that her parents have a treadmill in the basement so I know where I will be before Sunday dinner and maybe afterwards.
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Man, I was soooo looking forward to the 100-100 challenge this year (seriously). Still battling hip bursitis, though. Going to try and do 15 to 20 minutes on my treadmill and see how it holds up. So far, my record is 12 minutes without pain....woo-hoo. Slowly, slowly trying to come back.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [spot] [ In reply to ]
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I was having so... so... much fun but..... I really am getting tired of doing laundry. Maybe I can get a discount on a 100 Zoot running shirts from the seller on St classified. Well 88 shirts now wait my bad, just threw in another load of laundry with 10 sweat wicking work out shirts in it. So...... lets say 77 shirts since I need to save a bit of money for a rear race wheel. I am in the 60's for miles now and should get into the 70's tommorow for first week which also gives me MY first EVER 70 mile week. But all I can think of now as I get near my goal is 100 is like only 25 miles away . How can I up the mileage to make that doable. Okay I am headed out the door to see a shrink. Guess I will run there. LOL

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [bmanners] [ In reply to ]
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I hear ya. After my long run this morning I went by the Running Center and picked up a new pair of shoes and figured I'd better add another pair of shorts and a 3 pack of socks.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [bmanners] [ In reply to ]
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I just skip the shirt and let the big ole belly hang out there. Of course you gotta be tough to do that here ;)

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Mike Plumb] [ In reply to ]
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Gettin new sneaks 2morrow. Snow must of knocked my foot pod around today. Did my usual 4.35 mile course and had to do a extra .60 to get 4.10 on watch. Just logging 4.10 miles Snowy icey but nice out there this afternoon. Ya I would go shirtles and use the old speedo but do not think the neighbs would appreciate. bananas foster came out good.

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Mike any chance you and Joe are going to take a rest day...?

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [stbNJ] [ In reply to ]
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gorgeous weather, Im so depressed though, I havent gotten out today, who knows maybe it a bit.
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [bmanners] [ In reply to ]
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I took one last Monday, and only ran 4 miles (once) on Friday. That's two easy days in one week!
I still have another run to do this afternoon, once the Chargers finish kicking Cincy's butt.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Mike Plumb] [ In reply to ]
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 I dont have much left another slow 11miles 2morrow and hopefully tri to keep the doubles up till x-mas and use x-mas as a rest day. Have to get some swim time and bike time in there also.

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Christmas is going to throw a bit of a wrench in things. Girlfriend and I are doing a Christmas eve/day spa thing in San Diego. Will be lucky to get one run in each of those days.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Mike Plumb] [ In reply to ]
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Woo-hoo i found a hole in the armor. I am taking a run when the presents are snuck out under the tree , after they are open and after dinner..... I wish just hope to get one in also.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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Hi Vincent (Captain Canada) ... where in Canada can you run without shirt at this time of the year ... ?

Barely above 0 in Kelowna right ?

Good luck for the rest of the challenge !!

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Hi Vincent (Captain Canada) ... where in Canada can you run without shirt at this time of the year ... ?

Barely above 0 in Kelowna right ?

Good luck for the rest of the challenge !!

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Hehe ... it is nice and warm in my treadmill cave.

By the way I really dig the Sables, I can't wait to swim outside with them.

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That is cheating ! I live across the river from Kingston Ont. No shirtless runs for me. Today was very nice .
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2 hour snowshoe then my 30 min treadmill run has made me darn tired.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Mike Plumb] [ In reply to ]
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oooh wah, you are only ahead by about a hundred runs. :-D

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [meganruns] [ In reply to ]
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got out of the funk and got in a quick 30 min run. Glas I did.
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I think I am officially the slowest runner in the challenge. I don't really care as my slow shuffle is better than not doing anything. I am using the challenge to get myself into the groove of training on a regular basis. Thanks Paul for the motivating factor!!!
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Well, I'm out. My weekly run volume jumped from 197 minutes (week of 12/7), to 263 minutes (week of 12/14) thanks to the 8 runs in first 5 days of the challenge. On the 2nd run of Saturday, my achilles was sending me a very clear signal that my 100/100 was going to end, one way or another, so I took the smart way out, with no run Sunday and a return to my 5 runs per week training plan. Good luck to the rest of you sticking it out.

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [tetsuoni] [ In reply to ]
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You can still play and go 80 runs or so...
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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [fred_h] [ In reply to ]
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Fred, it's too tempting to overdo it, and also requires entering workouts twice. I'll lurk and cheer from the sidelines. Bon chance!

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Tetsuoni, I was looking at the results and noted your absence. I agree with you that it is easy to get sucked in. Why don't you do like me and try to target 70-80 runs this year.

OK, today was minus 14 and a huge wind. My house is on the 5K mark of this race course:

http://www.sportstats.ca/...g&racecode=45700

So I head out the front door, look at my watch and realize I have 50 minutes before my window of running opportunity ends, so I figure I'd head out on that course. 24 minutes into the run, I was at the "start line" (which is 5K from home) and before I knew it I hit the "START" button on the Chrono of my Timex. A few strides later, it's full out race pace. Well as good as you can get to race pace in minus 14 with a ton of layers, boat anchor training shoes and iffy footing. At least the perceived exertion was identical to race pace, except I'm having to run 5K into North West wind (at least 4k of it)....oh well. I actually hammered pretty hard and did the final 5K in 21.49. Funny thing is that is slower than my half Ironman run race speed (Clearwater was 4:10 per K). Goes to show the impact of really cold temps and a ton of clothing. I should have weighed all the clothing when I came home!
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Glad to hear that others are getting slowed down by the conditions, too. Have spent the last few days getting reacquainted with how much it takes out of you to run in a few inches of snow. Sidewalks and roads are sort of cleared, but lots of shallow drifts and snowbanks to contend with. Even trying to run easy, it's tough to keep my HR much lower than 10K pace at times.

Also am noticing the harsh ride of the screw shoes, especially on the bare patches of pavement. The gluteus medius is not amused. Still OK to run on, especially since I've discovered that resting it doesn't really make it get better much faster than not resting it.

BTW, like last year, my mileage seems to be right about at the median for the 1x day people.

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Re: 100 runs 100 days Starting Dec 15th [xraycharlie] [ In reply to ]
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Ran today in a warm gym on the treadmill. Planned on slow run but think I averaged around 7min 10 sec. mile for 7.3 miles treadmll actually read 7.49 miles but I am going with my watch. It's a little closer then yesterdays run where outside it measured .80 mile behind actual distance. Legs actually felt great to be stretched out running fast. Most miles were in the 6.35 mile per minute range as first mile was a 8 minute mile and second a 7 minute 24 sec mile. So I played catch up legs liked stretching. Will get my 4.70 mile recovery run in this evening. It is so hard to lay back on the treadmill at the gym feel like a slacker when doing 8- 8.30 minute miles. Well I am officially in the 70 mile range for the FIRST time !!!! and i feel good. Celebrated by having a dbl. cheeseburger and recovery smoothie ( mango, banana pineapple and whey) with my 5 yo at Mcd's while he ate his mcnuggets. Of course I took the top bun part off .

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [jpruneau] [ In reply to ]
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Uh, you have a serious challenger for slowest runner. Me. But, getting in the time on your feet will help quite a bit. Enjoy getting out there and do like me, don't worry about pace. I'm just thankful that I do this at all.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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OK, sucking up here for a mulligan - Day 1 of the challenge I felt something coming on, Day 2 starting to get sick too a day off to hope to fight it off to get back in on Day 3 but no luck, nasty cold through Day 5. I'm back, not 100% yet, but I have some catching up to do!

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [JenHS] [ In reply to ]
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Uh, you have a serious challenger for slowest runner. Me. But, getting in the time on your feet will help quite a bit. Enjoy getting out there and do like me, don't worry about pace. I'm just thankful that I do this at all.


don't count me out either . old age makes me a serious challenger . i ain't never won nothing this might be me big chance.


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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [cheyou] [ In reply to ]
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I was very disappointed last year to not be the slowest person to make the full 100. I think
I came in third.

Does anyone know how to view last year's challenge? I tried url munging but that didn't
get it.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [cheyou] [ In reply to ]
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Maybe that is a sub-challenge. Who has the slowest average pace? Still have to meet the criteria of the challenge and run at our typical pace.

Now that I think about it, I'm not sure that's a trophy I want on my bookshelf. Hrm...

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Maybe that is a sub-challenge. Who has the slowest average pace? Still have to meet the criteria of the challenge and run at our typical pace.

Now that I think about it, I'm not sure that's a trophy I want on my bookshelf. Hrm...


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You know me, CC. I finish what I start no matter how long it takes me :-)

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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You should look to quote popeye "I yam what I yam!!!"

So...you call her your "Little Sweet Potato(e)" ;)

I'm down one run right now. Trying to be careful as I ramp up. Can
feel PF trying to flair up on my left foot.

Of course the goal is doubles for the next two weeks. I think that means
I drink 2x as much beer, but I have a hard time remembering.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [gamebofh] [ In reply to ]
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Most stupid run to date. Took boys to rastling practice at high school . Track was half ass shoveled/plowed w/lawn tractor in a 42" wide lane. In fact 3/4 of lane on back end was snow drift covered and ice patches all over it running with little to no light. managed 16 laps without falling and wanted to get another .30 in so figured i would take parking lot with lights. Ran around parking lot went to make 2nd turn and saw some water. I did not feel like going around so I went right over it. And OVER did i go, right on my left side. Luckily nothing got hurt. Legs felt good whole time out there but I kept it real easy 9 minute miles. Wow........ 3 years ago it would be a stretch for me calling 10 minute miles easy.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [bmanners] [ In reply to ]
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Sticking to my plan. No run today. 2 hours on the CT with the middle 1:41 50K CT ride with 3000 ft climbing, 232 average watts (3.68W/Kg), 1450 KJoules. Desertdude better be scared about Wildflower :-)
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Hey Dev,

Thanks for starting up the challenge again this year. Taking part over the past two winters has immensely helped my running. Not sure I'll make it to 100 runs this time around, but I'll do what I can. I did the first six runs of the challenge in Cuba. The conditions were very Kona-like: windy, hot and humid. In fact, except for the '50s-era cars on the streets I could have imagined myself in Hawaii. I had one of the neatest runs of my life through the streets of Havana last Thursday. Started from my guest house, ran alongside the ocean on the Malecon sea-wall (similar to the sea-wall in Stanley Park, Vancouver), up the large pedestrian boulevard of the Prado to the Capitolio, (the White House lookalike seat of the Cuban government), then through the narrow streets of Havana Vieja, dodging horses, motorcycles, dogs and pedestrians. Finished back at my guest house in time for an awesome breakfast of pineapple, papaya, eggs, fresh bread, freshly squeezed orange juice and thick, black, strong Cuban coffee.

Kind of tough to go from running in 30 degree weather with 80 percent humidity to running in -20 degree weather back here at home, though!
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Rolldown] [ In reply to ]
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Morning run on treadmill after a hour five minutes of spin class. Actually 5 minute class I get there early and keep pedaling during their warm down. Yes I am in the aero position when they come in and when they leave.take for some self induced resistance climbs. They think I am nuts!! Did the usual 6.30 miles on treadmill at a fast pace for myself 40 min 38 sec. for a 6.32 mile total. max Hr was 169 bpm and average Hr was 162 bpm. Bike Hr was max 162 bpm and average was 128 bpm. Sure wish I could give a performance on bike where mmy average Hr. would be like my run Hr. . Probably equates to a 30 mph 40k average. LOL Something to shoot for. Is your guest house empty in Cuba ? Maybe we can do a N.J. - Cuba swap? You like the Jersey shore ? Just like Cuba this time of year only a little colder !

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [bmanners] [ In reply to ]
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Not "my" guest house, but the guest house in which I stayed, so sorry, can't swap! Back home in Ottawa now; I bet it's colder and windy here today than it is in NJ. Hmm, Cuba versus NJ (or Ottawa) in December; not much of a choice! This was my third trip to Cuba, but the first (and last) time I didn't take my bike. The cycling there is fantastic, and I'll try to get back there next year to do a cycle trip.
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Wish I could get a visa to go there looks like a beautiful place. Did Obama lift that trade - travel embargo thing been working out to much to take notice. I would say next time you go get me a Cohiba but I dont smoke that and the fact that I dont know you. LOL :)

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [bmanners] [ In reply to ]
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today has been kind of a lazy day, just didn't feel like getting outside. I know I am spoiled by our California weather, I admit that. Problem was it was real windy today and I do most of my runs along the pacific and the gusts were up to 25mph. So instead I headed over to the trails through the Eucalyptus Grove a mile away and did hill repeats instead. That worked out perfect, shielded from the wind and got a good workout in. 12 x 1 minute repeats, 1000ft total climbing for the run, but only 3 miles total covered in 36 minutes.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Mike Plumb] [ In reply to ]
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I hear you. My run today was really windy, and here in Arizona it was a blustery
65. With windchill the temps dropped down to 65.

I'm not sure I could keep this up if the weather stayed like this.

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My morning 14km was on an icy trail through Kelowna in minus 10C weather, so to both you and gameboth I say a very respectful "get bent"

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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Fun foot issues. Combination of new insoles and thick cold-weather socks have given me a matched set of heel blisters. Also, toenails have once again started to form miniature versions of these:



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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [gamebofh] [ In reply to ]
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Hey girls !!

I just ran twice by -4 Fahrenheit with windshield effect here in Ottawa over the last week ...
About -20 celsius ...
And so is Dev Paul, KonaExpress and a all bunch of us

you guys are funny ;) ... pfffff 65 !!

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Olivier Mouyau] [ In reply to ]
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Ran 6.35 miles on treadmill 45 minutes. Then did 1000 meters in pool 16 min.22 sec. Would have swam longer but have to work sometime. Last nites run almost got ran over by a suv (cj) that made a rolled through a stop sign. They got a nice slap on driver side rear window. Did not want to actually dent or break window. had front and rear blinking light and dressed with a neon yellow spongebob hat and canari neon bike jacket so no exscuse for not seeing me. Other then not to expect a runner in 22 degree weather at 7:30 p.m. on a tuesday nite on the street. On a brighter note this morning at 4:45 a.m. I found 2- $25 movie cards on ground at wawa parking lot. Gave to clerk and told him I fond on ground. Guess who is going to movies probably the clerk. Oh well I feel good.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Olivier Mouyau] [ In reply to ]
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Hey, I did not run in minus 20 C yesterday. I decided that I wanted to do a computrainer workout instead. Since I do several hard workouts in the cold over the winter, every now and then, doing something indoors seems to be good for my lungs and breathing in general....and as you know, my bike legs need to be ready early this year for the mountains of the Nice course. I think I already need a trip to Cuba like Rolldown, and we're only 2 weeks into the real cold ! Now trying to decide if I will ski first or run first today. The roads are all covered with snow, so I may just ski first and come around to running before dinner time. I am currently down at 175th place in the "standings" but am getting my target mileage in (56 K per week).

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I hear you. My run today was really windy, and here in Arizona it was a blustery
65. With windchill the temps dropped down to 65.

I'm not sure I could keep this up if the weather stayed like this.

-Jot


I'm not gonna mention the cold here in Boston, it's bad and there's a ton of snow on the ground but it still pales in comparison to some people. That said, it's amazing how perceptions change depending on the weather we encounter. If it were 65 today I'd be out in shorts and a tanktop and I consider that right on the verge of being hot for running--anything over 70 is warm for me. So while we northern folk have to deal with some brutal winters I'm sure the 100+ degree days in Arizona are no cakewalk either.

All that said, though, I kinda agree with the other guy: 'get bent' ;)
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Brownie28] [ In reply to ]
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Around here we make sure to brag about this a lot in the winter.

Because we're never bragging about 110+ when we have to run in the summer. :)

-Jot
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"I'm not gonna mention the cold here in Boston, it's bad and there's a ton of snow on the ground but it still pales in comparison to some people."

Gotta say, they've been doing a much better job the last 2 years of clearing the Esplanade of snow here in Boston. I did Watertown/Museum of Science on Monday and while there were some drifty stuff in places it was pretty decent for the most part. Yesterday I did a few laps around Fresh Pond right at sunset and it was beautiful, really should start bringing a camera.

Here is some local knowledge for all you Boston peeps: If you are doing loops around the Charles, if you come across the Mass Ave Bridge from Boston to Cambridge, and take a right, the first building you come to on the water is MIT's sailing pavilion. Across Memorial Drive from that is a big building with columns that is open 24/7/365, and there are bathrooms in the basement. Here is a pic of the building:



Additionally, back up on the first floor is one of the best dive bars in Boston called the Muddy Charles, a great place for a post run beverage:

http://web.mit.edu/muddy/
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KDW, thanks for the heads up. I actually run the Charles all the time--I've been a baby recently, doing almost everything on the treadmill--but when I run outside it's Watertown down however many bridges I need to get my planned distance in. That's a great tip about the bathrooms, I'll definitely keep it in mind if I get into trouble on my longer runs.

Completely agreed about the clearing of snow, it's definitely noticeable how much better they've gotten over the past few years.
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Brownie28] [ In reply to ]
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Rest day today.

The Gluteus Medius has spoken.
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Perhaps the rolling through the stop sign was intentional upon viewing of the spongebpob hat?

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KDW, thanks for the heads up. I actually run the Charles all the time--I've been a baby recently, doing almost everything on the treadmill--but when I run outside it's Watertown down however many bridges I need to get my planned distance in. That's a great tip about the bathrooms, I'll definitely keep it in mind if I get into trouble on my longer runs.

Completely agreed about the clearing of snow, it's definitely noticeable how much better they've gotten over the past few years.


I just got back from a run around there. Went through Watertown Square and then up the Boston side of the river to Harvard Square. It wasn't good from Watertown to North Beacon street but after that it was very very good. I was just thinking how much better a job they seemed to have done for this storm.
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [CaptainCanada] [ In reply to ]
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Just might have been Vincent. After they kept going I noticed the brake lights come on two or three times for no reason. Think they thought about coming back. Either that or they thought I stuck my tongue out at them through my big buck teeth. Spongebobs of course. Even thought about catching up to them but it was a recovery run. LOL

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Run #8 done.

Run #23 of my current streak. Whoot!

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My current run streak sits at one run. Off to ski now, so we'll see if this streak get broken later today or not :-)
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Whoot! What is that for! (-:
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So, I do ~90% of my runs around the Charles Rivah. Figured I'd share some of what the poor souls from warmer climes are missing:



Oh, wait, wrong shot. Yesterday looked like:






At first, I thought maybe there weren't many people around because all the students have left the city, or maybe that it was 20 degrees with 25 mph winds, but then I looked over my shoulder and realized why people kept sprinting past me with terrified expressions on their faces:



On a positive note, 7 weeks 'til pitchers and catchers report...


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Nice pic . I live out in the country. On my run yesterday
I saw 2 cars and about 30 turkey. A red tail hawk got a nice size rabbit. I don't know how you run in the city.
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Xmas came early. I got my gift unplanned 50K XC ski and because of this challenge tacked on a 7K transition run. Original plan was to do 35+7, but met up with some old friends and kept going and going and going. Nice to be just a month+ out from race fitness (Clearwater) and be able to pull that workout off (3:40 total). Pretty cooked now, but should have pre burned the upcoming calorie intake from the next 36 hours!

Kdw, nice pics. You on deck for Mooseman?

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Very nice day! I'm looking at beautiful clear skys but a temp of 30*F. Brrr.....

I'll get out there, just waiting for it to go up another degree or two.

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Definitely a good day, especially when it was somewhat unplanned and I pretty well had carte blanche to train all morning and return home mid afternoon as my wife was picking up family members from the airport and then heading to lunch!

Can't believe Mike Plumb hit 20 runs today!!!!
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neither can I, and not be injured. BUt the legs are holding up well. Just getting ready to head downtown to a fnacy hotel for the night. Hopefully while the GF is getting the spa treatment this afternoon I can squeeze another run and maybe even a swim in.

Merry Christmas!!

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Mike Plumb] [ In reply to ]
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Incredible weather here in Santa Barbara: 63 F at 3 pm with plenty of sunshine. It's ridiculously nice for running. I ran 50 min down to the water with an extra spring in my step.


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Got mine in. Interval work in cold weather never really goes well. My legs just don't warm up. Here are a couple pics of where I like to run. I'm fiddling with my new camera, Nikon D5000. Tons of fun.











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Merry Christmas everyone.

Jenhs, with respect to hard training in the cold, for me its not just the legs, but the lungs too. FIS (ski federation) won't let a world cup happen unless it is above minus 20C cause it is so hard on the lungs. In the cold, it takes forever for my legs to warmup, so if I am running from home, I hit the rollers for 20 min first to work up a good sweat and then wipe down, put the running clothes on and within 100-400m, I'm running at full speed. I swear by the "warmup" ride for cold weather runs. Always works well, especially if I am sore from the previous day's training.

OK, everyone go out and burn off all those Xmas calories. Finally if I can wish anything for you, it is that you have a year of good health and no injuries. Hopefully this challenge works towards making both happen, which means you really have to pay attention to your body. If you feel anything walking downstairs first thing in the morning, that's your first inidication that something will "break" 10 days from now. Take care of that body part.

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2x dev... Merry X-mas to all and also to you Dev. Got out today for a nice little run outside. Streets were bare for the most part. Hope everyone elso is having a great Holiday and enjoying it also. Dev when I am driving is the back of thigh about four inches from back of knee supposed to twitch and burn a bit ? Feel good walking down stairs though. Slow 7.45 miles today

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30 mins 10 secs w/ the wrestler. He has to make weight tomorrow. I don't, but I ate enough to be 2 weight classes higher than I was yesterday and that was only breakfast! On our way to eat dinner now....oh boy. Maybe a double today and tomorrow and Sunday.

Have a great day everybody. Enjoy your family, they put up with us all year long. Peace.
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [jime] [ In reply to ]
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my man B in the lead holy moly................way to go Jersey!!!!!!!

hey Jen...beautiful pics thanks......

Have a great day.
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Not for long Jim After 2nd week going to be going long three days a week so I will only get 3 doubles in a week. I have to start taking a rest day in there where I do something else. Got to play it a bit smart so i do not ruin upcoming year. These other guys gor years of base over me.

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I'm enjoying the challenge so far. Even if the runs start out rough, they always smooth out within 15 minutes, and then I'm REALLY glad I'm out running.

I'll have to start carrying a camera with me on my runs on this break. I plan to hit the trails in the Monterrey Bay area this week: Point Lobos, Jack's Peak, Laguna Seca, etc. Should be awesome.


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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [BottomFeeder] [ In reply to ]
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where you been? stalking KGrog still?

good to see your handle pop up again...

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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"Kdw, nice pics. You on deck for Mooseman?"

Looking forward to it!

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Does anyone run regularly with a big dog? I am dogsitting my brother's 100lbs 3 year old German Shepard. My question is when to ease up on a run. The longest has been just under 6.5miles. I let him sniff the really interesting bushes (he lets me know when it is really interesting by stopping cold.)and take potty breaks whenever. Just when I start to think I am pushing him too hard and he is giving me the pitiful look, a rabbit will appear and he takes off. So, am I being con'd or is there a way to tell? Thanks.
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Excellent!

I got in my required 30 minutes. My dinner wasn't sitting well so I kept having to slow down the speed until I was just above walking speed. But, got it in.

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Headed out now for run 21. Think I am going to make it a 5+ miler do not know if I will be able to run again today. Its 40 degrees , overcast , very windy and spitting rain. Just plain miserable out. And I have nephews who slept over last night over getting into all kinds of presents. A good time tosneak out and deal with it when I get back.

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KDW, that should be good fun at Mooseman. I'll be racing in the 45-49 though!

Today is freezing rain and a skating rink everywhere. I only need 8K tomorrow to hit my 56 K per week target, so sounds like a good day to take off from running. Maybe a CT ride or nothing at all. Three runs of 12-16K (hills, tempo, or intervals) plus a couple of 30 min transition runs per week gets me there. I'll do some longer runs starting in March after XC ski race season is wrapping up.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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"KDW, that should be good fun at Mooseman. I'll be racing in the 45-49 though!"

Make no mistakes, you'll be racing in the ST smackdown division whether you like it or not...not to mention I'm sure a lot of your neighbors will be there since it seems half of Canada comes down for that race. Definitely my favorite race, and it seems all the ringers show up...4:30 last year didn't even get me a sniff of the 40-44 podium...

Which reminds me, I have to figure out where I put my swim goggles and bike trainer now that X-mas is gone...my personal 90/100 "run a lot, bike when I want, and swim if I fall off a boat" challenge runs from mid-September til January 1.

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 Jersey 40 dgrees rainy nice wind gust... Hah posted that already, well got near 7 miles in instead of 5 and change. I was slow but it felt good on legs think I need new runing shoes been saying that for week now. Clothes were so wet they weighed 20 pounds at end of run.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Well I went for a run today after 2 days 100% off (one planned, one unplanned due to going to bed @ 4:30AM Xmas night & wife asking me to stay in on Xmas day).
So I went expecting a crappy 30 mins run and I ended up doing a nice 56 mins run. Main roads were ok to good (living in countryside does help and there was not a lot of traffic). Some gusts of wind here and there but I did not notice the wind and it was not raining for the last 30+ mins. In addition the "warm" temperatues helped a lot. Nicer than running by -20...

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Beautiful 6 mile run today. Ran to In N Out Burger for lunch. My wife drove me home - no way I'm running back with a double double in my belly.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Tri N OC] [ In reply to ]
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"Does anyone run regularly with a big dog?"

I don't run with a big dog, but I have run with a couple of little yippers in the past. Mine don't get tired even up to 10 miles, but if it is over 70 deg they get hot and they just stop going. Just like a person, if they go from being sedentary to running a lot they are going to be sore, both muscles and paws. Pay attention to their gait both when they are running and for the rest of the day as well for signs for signs of a limp. Other than that, if anything it is probably pretty good for them. I wouldn't want to be attached to a 100 lb German Shepard when a bunny wandered onto the trail though...

Also, when your brother gets the dog back it is going to bring the leash over to him and give him the "Take me on a 6 mile run!" look...



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in addition to Mooseman, I think we should have an ST Smackdown at Wildflower. I am just about to pull the plug and enter the half for Wildflower and make a 1 week camping vacation out of it. When I say camping, I mean RV, I don't like to sleep on the ground before a race, especially at Wildflower. The last time I went (2003 I think) it poured rain all day Friday and Saturday. I was real glad I was in an RV that year.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [bmanners] [ In reply to ]
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I got my quick 5mi out in the rain today too. I actually saw a lot of college girls running when I was out. Nice change of scenery for me!
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [bryan913] [ In reply to ]
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I had one of those runs today that keeps me running every day. Beautiful weather, not a cloud in the sky. Met 6 horses on the trail, including a 5 month old filly, and a puppy. Seriously, can you ask for any more than that?

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [AndyPants] [ In reply to ]
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Hi AP, happy holidays. I need to be stalking KJGrog more. He lives only a few miles from him, but I see him rarely. It's a shame. I'm hoping to see him more often next year.

Tonight was a run in the hills of Fremont CA, overlooking the Berkeley hills. For a Florida boy, these hills are a treat!


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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [kdw] [ In reply to ]
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I wouldn't want to be attached to a 100 lb German Shepard when a bunny wandered onto the trail though...

LOL! That was tonight's adventure. We ran to a couple of schools to try a bit on the track and found lots of rabbits. Poor dog didn't know who to terrorize first.:-) After first trying to pull my arm off when one bolted across our path, I let him go nuts for a while. I don't think he knew what he would do if he actually caught one, but he wasn't even close to having the problem.


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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Mike Plumb] [ In reply to ]
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What am I....the magnate for Smackdowns....you guys set one of these up at every race where I show up. I'm not even King ML, the king of smackdowns....OK, I'm in for the Mooseman and Wildflower smackdowns.
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If a smackdown doesn't kill you, it will make you stronger. Don't you have a two race winning streak against ML after Whiteface and Timberman?
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [bryan913] [ In reply to ]
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4 mile n change run at work on dread mill last nite. Nice to get paid to run, guess you can call me a pro athlete :) LOL... Going to try a 8 miler n change in a bit after my lovely wife gets back from gym since the sun decided to come out. Lots of Smackdowns going on around here Bryan. I would start talking smack about War athe shore but I glanced at times last year. You dont have a chance ... I mean .... I dont have a chance. I was checking out last years race times and averages. I was suprised to see last years Bike average mph @ War at the shore thats going to be hard to beat this coming year. DUDE you averaged 24.5 mph to my 24 I am going to have to concentrate on some biking soon. Oh not to mention the 6 minute + change beating you gave me on run. Cannot wait till my new Sportscraft rollers come in.12 minutes is a lot of time to make up but I am willing to make a go at it. Think I can close the gap by 10 minutes now.


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don't forget to average in that 16 year age gap as well. That has to be worth something in your favor.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Mike Plumb] [ In reply to ]
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 I thought about that but I am in denial about age and it having a affect on my performance. I can only get faster at his agewhen Bryan has already peaked. Figure I have 5-8 more years of getting faster before I stat to slow or even out. Anyway age is irrelevant when it comes to a ST smackdown as per Dev. I have to admit on run today I did stop for 20 seconds to tie my left sneaker. I did however forget to turn polar watch on till about .15 a mile into run and did not log.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [kdw] [ In reply to ]
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The current smackdown winning streak vs ML is three in a row: Whiteface, Tupper, Timberman....in all cases, ML has either mechanical issues, nutritional issues or back issues. There is no honour in defeating a man who is "limp"...every time ML beats me, we both bring our A game and the best man wins (that would be him).

The only time I seem to defeat ML or Desertdude is when they show up with the B/C/DNS/DNF games.

OK, today 90 min hard CT ride (middle hour ave 231W) followed by a steady 61 min 13K run. I am a few K ahead of my desired 56 K per week average (800K/8K per day).
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Interestingly, I have the fewest hours running of anyone in the top 125 (based on frequency) after yet another 30 minute run today. Taking it very easy, doing the bare minimum for the runs to count for the challenge and minimizing the injury risk.
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [saltman] [ In reply to ]
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Is there something wrong wth me that I am more excited about a 2 hour run on my schedule than 30 minutes or even a rest day?

Had another sunny, fantastic day for a run. Solid 2 hours. 40 miles this week.

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Absolutely not, nothing wrong with you at all.
Second run today was a bit short due to time constraints and work. Tommorow will both runs will be short also. Taking the family skiing. Which will be a exercise in futility even bringing kids friends :) but what the hell I got money to burn...I wish!! If I had CaptainCanada's money then maybe. Anybody see that new ride of his? SWEET!!! Will try to get pics of family and I skiing. What is a rest day ? Is that getting six kids ( three mine and three friends.)dressed and equipped up then ski with them and still manage two 30 some minute runs maybe longer ? About 6 miles away from 70 miles AGAIN this week and thats with TWO ... count them ...TWO....single run day's !!!!!

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Hey man....you don't need to do double runs every day.

In fact, you don't even need to do single runs every day, but since you have to, I advise that you get your run done BEFORE a day of downhill, where you will be continuously eccentrically loading the quads....then you'll do it again on your second run. Not really a good plan. We're only done week 2. Still 12 more to go, not to mention an entire season of training in 2010....we're not even into 2010 yet!!!!

Sometimes it is easy to get caught up in the weeds of the next workout. Look at the big forest. Its not the next workout that matters, its the collection of "next workouts" mixed up with taking it easy/resting.

Training = Work + Rest,

so do with this as you see fit, but I really don't want this to end up like Tigerchik, when I have to say "I told you so" if you happen to hurt yourself with too much of a good thing.

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Absolutely not, nothing wrong with you at all.
Second run today was a bit short due to time constraints and work. Tommorow will both runs will be short also. Taking the family skiing. Which will be a exercise in futility even bringing kids friends :) but what the hell I got money to burn...I wish!! If I had Captain America's money then maybe. Anybody see that new ride of his? SWEET!!! Will try to get pics of family and I skiing. What is a rest day ? Is that getting six kids ( three mine and three friends.)dressed and equipped up then ski with them and still manage two 30 some minute runs maybe longer ? About 6 miles away from 70 miles AGAIN this week and thats with TWO ... count them ...TWO....single run day's !!!!!


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At work and had a fire come in when writing so I was typing fast Sorry about that bro! Leaving work now to get 4 miles on dreadmill before going skiing.
Got my 4 miles in have to re enter time I was a minute off but wanted to be ahead of mike for at least a minute today LOL. Loading up the beamer to go skiing. Dev skiing with 5 , 8 and 12 yearolds I dont know how much skiing I will actually get in. Like I said most likely a exercise in futility. Will see how it goes about second run ,right now body feels great.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Tri N OC] [ In reply to ]
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Enjoying the challenge so far, dev. It's gotten me running more, and after a couple days of doubles last week I seem to be running faster (I almost never run doubles)

Unfortunately biking is where I need the work :)



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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [eparrot] [ In reply to ]
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Did my first double today to pull back even. Enjoying it so far.

I seem to recall from last year at the ~25 day mark is where it gets more difficult mentally.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [bmanners] [ In reply to ]
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Whew I am getting tired of the damn treadmill. I would love to run outside but this is one of those times of the year where it is completely unsafe to run at the resort. too many tourists looking for their rental condo and not paying attention to the roads, plus my run times tenbd to be either pre 5 AM or post 9 PM.

I have worked 89 hours on my feet in the last 6 days and still managed to squeak out my run a day, so no excuses for anyone. Looking at the treadmill right now trying to get motivated to get on the damn thing. Anyone wanting to lose a quick ten pounds should work my schedule from December 23 to Jan 3. I will probably drop 8-10 pounds without trying ...

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [JenHS] [ In reply to ]
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awsome pics JenHS...I'd have to man up to run in that cold, but the pics are the right inspiration do do so...b2
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Nice double run today. 50 min out and back in Salinas with pickups on the way back. Felt great.

Then a very inspired 60 min on 17-mile drive in street clothes. I ran like the wind. This run is going to carry me at least until March!


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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [BottomFeeder] [ In reply to ]
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Minus 20C and 40-60 kph winds this morning. I'm going to use this as my second non run day of the week. Morning CT ride, afternoon XC ski (intervals if I feel up to it). Came to the conclusion on my run yesterday that I did not have the fire yet to get back into a serious run program. 4 weeks break of non structured training after Clearwater was not enough of a break from a serious run program. I'll just take it as it comes for now. When I get back to work and lunch runs are the most convenient training option, I'll no doubt have the fire to run again. May as well use my vacation time to ski and bike which are harder to do during a work day.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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MINUS 20? Where do you live?

We've got the same winds this morning and it's certainly a few degrees below zero but not 20
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Going to the gym now to run on Dreadmill . Skiing with the kids was fun made a couple runs with the little guy between legs. Then he would have none of that and tried on his own for a while. He did okay Seven year old did great until he got tired and my 12 yearold girl ditched me for my buddies 12 yearold son. Oh well....headed dev's advice and did not run after. Well got home at 11:00 pm so was not much time and was beat. Two short runs today and hopefully long tommorow.

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minus 20 C. My lungs are sensitive to cold (in that too many hard workouts, too often over the winter leaves me with a permanent cough by Feb....which I have learned through experience), especially when I start racing every weekend. There is a reason the FIS cutoff for race start is minus 20C. I'll do one cold workout in a day, but not two (part of pacing things over the entire winter season).

You do realize that there is another 45 degrees of lattitude north of where you live where it can get a lot colder, but I think we are at the same temp today (minus 4 F = minus 20 C)
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Hey Dev

It was a "comfortable" -16C with a -27C windchill when I ran at 5:30 this morning so maybe I only want to live in Ottawa so I can train with you guys in the Gats during the warmer months :)

The strange thing with this weather is that it was only -1C yesterday and supposed to be -2C tomorrow.
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where do you live Antartica. Damn I would not even run out to the car in that weather. Think even Jack Daniels freezes at those temps. I ran in the gym on the dreadmill it was a comfy 68f-70f. Would have ran outside but there is a constant 10-15 mph wind with very strong gust. I can deal with 10 degree temps and so but not the wind. Funny enough saw a guy on a bike when I got home from gym. Anywho... did 40 minutes 2 seconds on dreadmill with the last 1/4 mile being 10.5 mph. for a total of 5.60 miles. No Hr strap on last few runs been to lazy to put on. Working on the Ladder 2nite have a feeling we are going to be so busy because wind that I might not get my 2nd run in. But I will "TRI"

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Thx. It wasn't cold cold, like these Canadians see, but for a wimply PNWer, it was freezing.

Looks like I'm going to finish this year with a run streak for the month of December and I feel great. First days off coming next week in prep for a 50k. Not sure what I'm going to do with myself!

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Allan....I had the perfect day of training...morning was 70 min on CT with 12x2 min intervals (260-310W). Afternoon 2:10 32K XC ski with a bunch of intervals with Paul Tolomiczenko....he's skiing as fast as ever. It was minus 15C this afternoon but it felt OK. Regardless, I'll take St. Croix heat any day (thus the morning trainer workout).

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Too cold for me today. Woke up with no power, super windy and sub zero temps. The lack of hot water after made the decision to bag it really easy. Up on the ski hill they were saying neg 50 with the wind. Brutal. perfect day for sitting in front of the fire. Crap day for running.
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Went to the Y with mom and dad to use the treadmills. This is quite an occasion as they are the sedentary type. Mom went 40 min at 3 mph and 3% incline. That's pretty good.

I ran 30 min at 6 mph, 6% incline. I actually like the treadmill, but I haven't learned to take it easy on the damn thing. It's just too tempting to keep pushing those up buttons until 5 minutes seem like a loooong time.


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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [BottomFeeder] [ In reply to ]
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Another tough run on local trails after work. Lots of nasty rocks and roots. Hard to stay upright! 2 huge long hills too. The 3lbs I've gained came back to haunt me.

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Is it wrong to be doing just above the minimum? I've been hitting each day but barely get up over 30 minutes at a time. Rehabbing some late season ITB issues so just running easy for 30-35 minutes each day. I'm at 16 runs, but pretty much lowest in distance for 16. Is that wrong? I'm sure I'll pick it up... back to 30 mile weeks already and going to slowly build up to 40-45. But feel like i'm just getting by with my 15 pieces of flair.


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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [mrtrik] [ In reply to ]
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Nothing wrong with that i guess, been doing what you have been doing but with 2 longer runs during sundays (40 mins!!) plus i still take a day off ; just taking it really easy this time and want to reach the 70-80 mark plus of course not get injured doing this challenge.

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Nothing wrong with that at all. If you're ramping up it's
smart to go with the minimum for a while before you increase
the distances. I think I did that for the first 30-40 days
last year. This challenge is about consistency, not about
killing yourself. 100 days is a long time. Be smart about it.

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I hear ya. Last year I did 88. 527 miles... this year I'm on pace for 100 (so far!) but about 450 miles. We'll see as we move along.


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It's fine but watch out for the day when Dev temporarily changes the requirements, just to see what the effect is. One day last year (just for the one day) he changed the minimum to something like 35 minutes or 40 just to see what the effect would be on the standings. He caught hell for it too, even though he made it clear he was changing it right back the next day.
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When the body is ready to do more, you'll know. I was at 30 min per day for a few months this year. Now 50 min seem normal. All I did was to keep the faith.


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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [BottomFeeder] [ In reply to ]
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x2 your body will let you know when to ramp up mileage. But be caeful another 3 weeks of 30 min. runs you might catch the wrathe of Dev. which is a good lashing through the computer. I might catch heck for last nights run. Ran around the garage bay at work which was .05 of a mile each time around. Was dizzy as heck after the run plus the engine went out two times while running. Diesal fumes were not that nice. Very slow like 9 minute miles. I do think I needed a slow, slow run. Actually did 3 miles on a elliptical b4 till I said screw this wierd contraption. Did 6.4 miles this morning in 44minutes. Think I need 3 miles more for 2000 miles this year.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [JoeO] [ In reply to ]
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That was funny last year. I remember people getting all bent out of shape.
I had a lot of runs under the threshold, but it didn't matter. The key was that
I had the runs in. I was amazed at how many people were trying to be
competitive spread sheet chasers. :)

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [gamebofh] [ In reply to ]
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Oh I'm one of the worst competitive spread sheet chasers out there. It's just that the happy side-effect is, I get in the big base I need. I always need a kick in the pants around now or I don't start building until a month after I should
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [bmanners] [ In reply to ]
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What I find is, even after I build up to these longer 50 min runs, I don't want to underestimate the 30 min runs. They are a heck of a lot better than nothing. In 30 min, you still have a good 5-10 min to do quality work if you feel like it.

0.05 mile loops. LOL. Now that's hardcore!


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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [mrtrik] [ In reply to ]
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Stick with 30 - 35 a day for now. No need to go any more, we are still early into the challenge.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [mrtrik] [ In reply to ]
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Is it wrong to be doing just above the minimum? I've been hitting each day but barely get up over 30 minutes at a time. Rehabbing some late season ITB issues so just running easy for 30-35 minutes each day. I'm at 16 runs, but pretty much lowest in distance for 16. Is that wrong? I'm sure I'll pick it up... back to 30 mile weeks already and going to slowly build up to 40-45. But feel like i'm just getting by with my 15 pieces of flair.


I am doing the exact same thing, so it better be okay. I have a schedule that will take me to 50 miles/week by late February, but its going to be slow build in the meantime. I basically have 6 x 30 minutes scheduled this week, and then a long run of just 40-45 minutes this weekend. I will repeat this week 3 times before increasing my weekly mileage again. The last 2 weeks have been >10% increases, so a bit of a risk and I don't want to keep pressing even though the body feels good.
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [JoeO] [ In reply to ]
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Joe, the point is that running 30 minutes every time out is not an effective running program (you know that well), especially when you run 12x in a week 30 minutes every time, some days 3-4x30 minutes. That's bordering on pathetic spreadsheet chasing.

If a person is running 4-5x per week then 4x30 min + 1x45-60 minutes is just fine. But once someone is running 5-7 hours per week there are much more effective ways to break down run training than to do 30 minutes on every run, just because that is the minimum requirement in a dumb challenge.

PEOPLE, keep in mind that this challenge is here to make you fitter, not to make you a hero on a spreadsheet. If you're already doing 5+ hours of running per week, there are many better ways to break down the training to maximize training effect than to just do a zillion short runs.

I'm the biggest proponent of short runs to help one increase mileage, but throwing out bread and butter runs like say a steady 90 minute run in favour of 3x30 minutes just for the sake of a challenge is silly.

So yes, last year, just to see what happened, I changed the minimum for a day to 33 minutes just to see what would happen and a bunch of guys got bent out of joint. The funny thing is that me changing the threshold for a day had zero impact on their accumulated fitness to date (which is what we're trying to achieve......RIGHT????). It just momentarily changed the results as presented in the spreadsheet when ordered by frequency. It just goes to show that people can't see the forest from the trees. Changing the threshold for a day does not change your fitness....just how an online sheet is seen by others.

Question to spreasheet chasers.....are you more concerned about impressing others than doing what is right for your training or fitness? Think about that one for a second....

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Dev, chill. I understood the point last year when you did it the first time. I wasn't the one giving you hell.
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [JoeO] [ In reply to ]
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Joe, just providing the explanation now.....as this silliness of the infinite 30 minute run crew, will materialize sooner than later....
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [skyman] [ In reply to ]
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Hey, just like a real training camp, we can use our peers to provide us with motivation. That can help lift our fitness. The key is to find the balance point of getting motivation off your peers to lift fitness vs doing things in our training that will be detrimental to aggregating fitness over these 100 days. But completing changing actions simply to stack up with peers is not the smart thing to do.

Anyone who played sports in highschool knows who these athlete are. They do all kinds of things in practice to impress their fellow players or coach, but have NOTHING for game day. The coach is really more impressed by actions on game day that lead to numbers going up in the win column....being studly in practice is only good if it backed up on game day....this entire challenge is one long PRACTICE....
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [skyman] [ In reply to ]
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Not me. Race results are irrelevant! I want spreadsheet victories!

Seriously, I realize I'm putting up big numbers but it's not like I haven't done this many times before. I've been running for 30 years. I've only been doing triathlons for 4. This is nothing. You should see my running log from 2003 - 2004 -- the years I had some of my best racing performances.

I told myself months ago that this winter I wanted to get my mileage back up to 2003-2004 levels because for 2010, the only goals that really matter to me are running-only goals. I'm doing Mooseman and Timberman but I'm not focusing on them.

I'll probably just withdraw from the challenge at some point. I really wanted to use it to jump-start my training. Mission accomplished there.
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [skyman] [ In reply to ]
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In that case, bring it. When we show up at our respective races, we can just show them our training logs and collect our prizes.

(Wait, that's now how it works? Damn!)
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [JoeO] [ In reply to ]
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I'm hoping to podium again this year in the: "Slowest Pace to Complete the Challenge"

I think I got 3rd last year. Of course without the pace column I'll have to figure it
out manually or resort to the "Lowest Total Mileage" (because being slow I end up
there any). I think JenHS won this last year.

But I look today and this jerk ( jpruneau ) is one run up on me AND 8 miles down. How can
I compete with that? I may have to leave the challenge.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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those are some pretty broad statements in which to paint across everyone Dev. I would love to trade you my knees in a heart beat. I was told 4 years ago to stop running by my orthopedic and he (being a runner himself) knew I wasn't going to do that so he said at least limit my runs in distance. I can handle two or three 4 mile runs per day much better then I can running 12 miles straight per day. So to say so and so way is the best way to do it, keep in mind one size does not fit everyone. I can run 70 - 80 miles per week if I keep the runs between 4 - 6 miles each and just run multiple times per day, no way I could run that kind of mileage on one run per day and be able to still walk with my right knee which is bone on bone.

I think it would be kind of like saying a certain individual wanted XC skiing included in aerobic points so they could accumulate more points. Why not then include aqua jogging, resistance band swimming (in place), strength training and time spent doing core exercises?

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Mike Plumb] [ In reply to ]
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Why not then include aqua jogging, resistance band swimming (in place), strength training and time spent doing core exercises?

...and kegels. I should be allowed to count kegels.

-Jot


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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Dev,

Thank you for setting this up again this year. I am always inspired by the pictures and stories of others running in Polar Bear environments while I have a hard time getting out the door in So Calif.
I do not post often as not much of what I do in this sport is significant enough to share with anyone but today was different. This morning I ran easy for 36:30. Sure my ankle and foot are still a little sore from rolling my mtn. bike last week but this morning there was an unusual spring in my step as I ran along the dark streets. Not enough spring to make me run fast, but enough to put a smile on my aging grill, for today was my first day of retirement after 29 years, 4 months and 10 days at 5 different iterations of the phone company (Divestiture, mergers, acquisitions etc.). Pension + buyout + benefits made it worthwhile for me to start a career with another company. I am grateful for the years with Ma Bell, my new job opportunity and the motivation that I get out of reading about others sharing their passion for triathlon. For all of the participants in the challenge- keep up the good work!

For any of you with advice on successfully migrating from a corporate behemoth to working from home for a small sales company I will post a thread in the L Room in the next few days to solicit your input.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Mike Plumb] [ In reply to ]
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Just went over 2000 miles for the year and going on third week of 70 plus. My thinking was... as I have been saying To work on my 10k speed which I think I have brought down. Everyone say's the gains are there by doing the higher mileage. Well some say that. It does feel like I have made gains and it shows on workout's. Weeks leading up to this I was doing some 10,12 and 16 mile runs totaling 50 to 60 some miles a week. So I went back for some speed training and i am backing off the total mileage after next week. They say 3-5 weeks of high mileage then back off a week to realize gain's. RIGHT? Then I wanted to throw some bigger mileage day's in for three or so weeks and then back to speed work a bit. So my runs mainly have been 38-50 minute 6 miles and change runs and then 35 - 45 minute 4 and change mile runs. Think there was a 8 or 9 miler in there a time or two. Might do it again 2morrow to get weekly mileage up. Have i been chasing the spreadsheet YES but in a controlled way as not to hurt myself. At least I think it is. I have put the base in to do the higher mileage but I know I am the lilfish here with some ginormous big fish. I am triing to soak in all advice I can to stay healthy and have a break out season.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Mike Plumb] [ In reply to ]
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Mike....if you read pretty well every book on running, there is not a single "mainstream running program" that preaches runs of exclusively 30 minutes each. While your situation may be different, it is perhaps more of an outlier than optimal training as generally accepted by the running world. Sure it works for you, but you're doing a lot more than a massive amount of minimum runs only.

But let me ask you this....if one's knees bother them beyond a certain point, is it worth running 80 miles per week, when one might just be better off cutting it back to 50 miles and replacing the extra runs with riding or swimming, or strength training or core training?

A question to all of us more than you specifically, but what is the cost benefit of those final 20 miles per week in our programs? If one is on 20 miles per week, getting up to 40 might yield massive gains. If already at 40 then going to 60 for some who are biomechanically sound might offer an additional level of payback, whereas, for others already with suspect chassis, this might start falling into the high risk low reward category.

Going from 60-80, the sliver of the tri population benefiting from the further increase in mileage starts to fall offdramatically, the risks going higher and higher for the mainstream. We each have to look at our mix of mileage, intensity, overall load, impact on immediate performance, and impact on long term sustainability. Most of us don't ask these questions until it is too late.

I'm just putting this out there NOW starting week three so people think a bit before they get too far in and implode. Still over 80 days of running left. We've barely gotten out of the starting gate.


As for aerobic points, my training is no different than what I normally do (in fact it is less ski volume and way more intensity than normal....can show you my hard copy logs from 2005-2008, or you can look at my Dec 2008 right here on ST before the points system was instituted).

When Slowman set up the log (before aerobic points were included), as a user of the log, I asked for walking/hiking and XC skiing to be included (as you know, this was Slowman's first competitive sport while in highschool in Lake Tahoe). That's before they set up points for each sport in each challenge. Anyway, go sort every challenge through the year (including thse over the summer and guess who ends up top 10 by points when there is just biking swim run). Again, I did not set up the points system, slowman did. I do the training I am going to do to have success in racing, not because a spreadsheet exists somwhere online (you know that from my race results).

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Log data added in (please note that in the first part of Dec 2008, 247 km of XC ski was logged in other before the category was added by the ST log per my request....so really 586K)

Dec-08

xcski 23:55 339 km
other 17:45 247 km
bike 10:10 312 km
swim 1:52 6,200 m
run 22:30 291.5 km
Total 76:12 1,195.7 km

Dec-09 (excludes Dec 31....I'll be doing 4.5 hours tomorrow)
xcski 26:48 388 km
other 2:35 0 km
bike 22:18 740 km
run 17:23 213.5 km
Total 69:04 1,341.5 km

If anything could you guys ask Slowman to get XC skiing points derated. Right now doing 9 miles of XC skiing in an hour gets you 27 points. Swimming 2700 meters in an hour gets you 27 points, running 6.75 miles in an hour gets you 27 points. Riding 27 miles in an hour gets you 27 points (this one would be almost impossible....). I'd prefer if you only got 20 points off 9 miles (~2.25 points per mile, or even 2.5 would be better). I've already explained this many times to Rappstar and Slowman. Would love it if you could lobby for that. Anyway, look at most active users for the last month by hours...guess who is there...and I was in Nov, Oct, Sep....its just what I do.
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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jeezy weezy dev, way to piss in my pot....why the hell set up the challenge in the first place? I am certainly not compromising my overall strategy, but I would be lying if I said on no less than 3 occasions I have decided to skip a rest day and just do a short recovery run to stay further up the standings. I mean isn't that the point? Chase the spreadsheet within reason? Rather than take a rest when I didn't really need it, do a recovery run? I have used it the challenge to my benefit, I have a well thought out strategy, but yeah its kind of fun "moving up" the standings. Excuse me for livin!

With respect to athletics. 99% of the people that practiced the hardest, also played the hardest and became the best players, at least in the sports I played.
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [JoeO] [ In reply to ]
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I'll probably just withdraw from the challenge at some point.

Why withdraw? Don't want to crush dreams? For myself, I look forward to your posts and tips. The ChuckieV article you posted was great and got me out of the house late night for another run.
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [saltman] [ In reply to ]
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"Chase the spreadsheet within reason"

You said it best my friend....within reason. Let's use it to lift our fitness, but let's not let it drive our actions to the point that we hurt ourselves.

WRT to 99% who practiced the hardest played the hardest and became the best players, I'm assuming that you were not part of a track team, where it's the other 1% who knew when to back off just a touch that won the medals in racing :-). We're not talking slackers here, just the guys who know when and where to burn their matches.

Think about it this way.....we're in an Ironman and barely gotten around the first swim buoy. Do you chase the competition now and blow up, or do you pace yourself to get to mile 16 in the run ready to uncork a final closing 10 when you "play for dough?" If you have trouble pacing in racing when the competition is blowing by, this is a great time to practice that phychology...let the competition do what they will do when it is early in the game....you have your game plan for the big picture....
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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First off day today. Well, not exactly an off day. Woke up at 3:45 AM, looked at the treadmill and started work instead. Worked from 4AM to 9PM on my feet without a break. Decided a mojito would be more therapeutic than a run. Tomorrow is looking very similar. Crazy busy.

Last year on NYE I started work in my kitchen at 3:45 AM, worked straight through until 11PM, zipped back to my room, ran for 30 minutes, showered and made it back into the bar before the countdown. I will shoot for a repeat this year.


Happy New Year everyone.


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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [gamebofh] [ In reply to ]
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I didn't do the challenge last year, I was a judge :-)

I've got a 50k next weekend so I'll be taking a few days off around it which means I will be ending my run streak but I'll still have run every day of December and gotten in ~146 miles for the month. I'm thinking about doing a full 9 miles tomorrow to bring myself up to 150 for the month.

My only goal is to hit the 100 runs. Total mileage or time doesn't matter to me. I'm not fast so why kill myself?

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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A question to all of us more than you specifically, but what is the cost benefit of those final 20 miles per week in our programs? If one is on 20 miles per week, getting up to 40 might yield massive gains. If already at 40 then going to 60 for some who are biomechanically sound might offer an additional level of payback, whereas, for others already with suspect chassis, this might start falling into the high risk low reward category.

Going from 60-80, the sliver of the tri population benefiting from the further increase in mileage starts to fall offdramatically, the risks going higher and higher for the mainstream. We each have to look at our mix of mileage, intensity, overall load, impact on immediate performance, and impact on long term sustainability. Most of us don't ask these questions until it is too late.
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If anything could you guys ask Slowman to get XC skiing points derated. Right now doing 9 miles of XC skiing in an hour gets you 27 points. Swimming 2700 meters in an hour gets you 27 points, running 6.75 miles in an hour gets you 27 points. Riding 27 miles in an hour gets you 27 points (this one would be almost impossible....). I'd prefer if you only got 20 points off 9 miles (~2.25 points per mile, or even 2.5 would be better). I've already explained this many times to Rappstar and Slowman. Would love it if you could lobby for that. Anyway, look at most active users for the last month by hours...guess who is there...and I was in Nov, Oct, Sep....its just what I do.

I'll leave triathlons aside since I don't know what balance works best when you're doing all three. But going from 40-60 yields serious benefits for most if the runners I've coached. Going from 60-80 starts to vary more by individual. The reasons for this are myriad, and the more mileage you add, the more you have to pay attention to the type of training you're adding in order to get the extra benefits. It has also been my experience that many of the benefits of truly higher mileage are measured in years, not in weeks and months. I'd also note that in theory this is our base period, and while good solid 75-80% HR runs or fartleks are part of any good base period, any faster than that should be more limited at this time of year than at any other time of year. Which should allow higher mileage. Finally, Paul you're right about the risk. For those who've experimented over the years, don't mess with what has worked. But many have never tried methodically increasing their mileage, and if they never take the risk, they'll never know.

regarding points, I have to chuckle. I can't speak to X/C skiing, but it seems to be an accepted fact in tri circles that an hour of biking is worth less than an hour of running. On average, that's probably accurate for most people. But when I do 30-60 minutes on the bike steady at 75% HR, which is a staple for me, it's exactly as hard a workout as when I do 30-60 minutes running at 75% HR.

Thanks for the challenge!



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Beautiful run on 17 mile drive from Pacific Grove along Asilomar State Beach yesterday. The setting was ridiculously gorgeous, and I was feeling good. That's a good combination.

Today I think I will end the year with a run at Point Lobos SP.


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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Went a little longer this morning and skipped the 1000 meters of swimming. Did 10.3 on dreadmill was boring as Hell ! ! ! Do you know how many pathetic people there are at the gym on NYE @ 5 in the morning ? One me !!!... Okay there were about 5 others...LOL ... Left gym and it was snowwing. Another magical Day for the Christmas season. Think ( maybe) i will skip the evening run and play with the kiddies in the snow. Can't wait to get home from work and hit the kids with snowballs. They are home making a fort to hide in as we speak.

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Do you chase the competition now and blow up, or do you pace yourself to get to mile 16 in the run ready to uncork a final closing 10 when you "play for dough?"

Damn you!

Yes, I was a sprinter on the track team. Translation: I did nothing in practice and just showed up at meets with track shoes and genetics.

I hear you though, I don't have any interest in trying to run 200 times in 100 days. I haven't necessarily given up on 100 however, would be pretty cool and provided I stay healthy would have to reap some big benefits later.
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OK Point Lobos will have to wait, but the trails at Jack's Peak were awesome. I ran on a carpet of pine needles the whole way. The downhills were fun, and the uphills kept me honest.

Happy new year Slowtwitchia.


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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [eparrot] [ In reply to ]
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Happy New Year's Eve to all. My party with friends is done.....16k run with >1000 ft vertical, followed by 50K XC ski with ~3000 ft (need to see the final GPS data from my buddy, but the distance was 50K even). Then all you can eat Indian food. Now with family and we'll start heating up the Thai take out shortly.

Hopefully your 2010 has as many or more successes as you had in 2009 and you have a solid year of PB's no injuries and good health (no heart attacks, cancer, MS etc etc)

My 2009 was great...had some awesome winter races, broke a leg in late Feb, came back reasonably well in the spring, had strong races mid/late summer and an awesome set of running races in the fall leading up to and including Clearwater. No complaints here. Almost a good a year as 2006. I did also get my first overall race win in 2009 in a solid field (winter tri) , so that was a bonus!
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Happy New Year Dev and thx for the challenge!!! Goals are always great...buddy
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Happy new year everyone just logged my last run of 2009 in. My wife said the party is not till 9 so I had a chance to get out. 4.1 miles at a 9 minute mile pace worked on form and recovery. Need to stop moving shoulders so much as I run wasted energy. Anyway


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Wrapped up 2009 with a run streak of every day in December. Shortest run was 30 mins, longest 2 hours. 147 miles for the month.

I did some rough math earlier and came out to around 1250 miles for the year. I think I only missed about 20 days of running, if that. I should have kept better track. I know I missed 5 days for a cold in Feb, a couple days for race prep/recovery and a migraine or two. 20 is pretty close.

Best running year ever for me. PRs at the 10k, 50k and 50 mile distances. Set a personal record of 103 day running streak in the spring. Completed my longest running event, a 100k, and had a great time at Ultraman Canada with Captain Canada. Not one injury. I don't think I took a day off for any run related aches or pains. Pretty amazing. Thank you to desert dude who got this out of me. Apparently I've always been a runner hiding inside a triathlete.

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Congrats to you Jen.

"...Thank you to desert dude who got this out of me..."

Now maybe Desertdude needs to apply this plan to himself or he's going to have too show up to ST on May 3rd to explain why he got beaten by me at Wildflower and there is nothing worse at an ST smackdown than going slower than Dev pace (just ask Murphy's Law) :-)
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Have you ever thought of adding bonus points if you are running and it is below -10 or if it is snowing? Seems to me that the slower run pace in the snow should be accommodated in your points system. Especially since the canal trail in Ottawa never gets plowed very well!
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [homey130] [ In reply to ]
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Nope, it is what it is. If you have to shuffle through knee high snow, then suffer it out. Same with minus 20. No sympathy either for the Tuscon guys when it is 112F in June and we're cruising in 70F....it all evens out. By the way there are plenty of places to run other than the canal (for example, head over to Parliament hill and run repeats up from the river....that road is always clean). I just ran right down the middle of the road this morning after the snow plough went by....very little traffic on Jan 1.
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Don't worry, I'll crack the whip.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [homey130] [ In reply to ]
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I'm from Ottawa as well. Have to deal with the same stuff.

I think I've posted only once before so I'm not going to be rude and say something like HTFU or "That's some other f--king challenge". :)

But seriously...have the other Ottawa challengers thought about a real live run together (vs the virtual ones)?

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [alboodie] [ In reply to ]
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Obviously you guys missed my Winterman 16K run 50K ski yesterday (its only in the footer of my trirudy.com signature for an entire year....) :-). I'll run with you guys in racing....too hard to coordinate additional group training with other guys outside of what I already have on the go between work, coaching kids, my own training group and training with friends.

Next time I'm doing repeats on Parliament Hill, or a hill run on Notch Road+Kingsmere Road I'll post here if you guys want to jump in. In general though, no one really seems to want to do that, since its the hardest run terrain around. Most people prefer to run around the canal, which I have zero interest in doing outside of racing :-).
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Sorry dev had to get a run in today not to chase spreadsheet but so not to fall to far behind to do the 70 miles this week so i can start a less mileage week next to try to realize any gain. Just wonder what I should go down to so as not to push to hard and or lose fitness.

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I took my easy week this week. Only one run per day and a complete day off (today). I actually felt better during that first week of 80 miles then I did this week with half that mileage.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Mike Plumb] [ In reply to ]
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Thats what I figured to do I have my weekly mileage based on starting challenge on a tuesday. So Tuesday would take one run then take wed. off (planned ski day with the son on weds) then a run everyday after that. Just dont know if it will be a 4 miler or 6-8 miler guess I would go by how my body feels. Might even take two days off weds. and mon. What happened to JoeO did not see him on standings ?

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Joe you are off the chart . Hope it was a mistake I was kind of using ya as a inspiration to run. I am just about to start the longer run portion after a light week. Was thinking about mirrroring your runs. If i could ?

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Mike Plumb] [ In reply to ]
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Mike....I'm like that on rest days or even easy week. Everything feels like crap. I feel like a slug, and totally out of shape. I guess the body is rebuilding. My friend Barry Dmitruk says this on taper week when asked how he feels, "Old, fat, and out of shape. Looks like I am on track for a PB on Sunday...." (and usually he does)!
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Went for a nice run 10.5 mile run Kept the pace down to around 9 minute mile maybe even a bit more. Then somebody had the audassidy (spelling) to pass me at around mile 7.5 . Like a mtn. lion springing into action I kept pace with staying about 30' feet behind for a mile. I guess he was just out for a mile and a half sprint because when we turned the corner he went about another 50 feet and stopped huffing and puffing. I quickly changed up pace back to around 8 minute mile and kept going. Think the "sprint" was about a 7min / 6.50 min mile pace. i had more but felt no need to pass. Good to know I had lots left in tank at that point of run. I need that for my outside runs more often because I seem to get stuck in a rut pace wise outside.

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"Like a mtn. lion springing into action I kept pace with staying about 30' feet behind for a mile."

Dude, don't be that guy...
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I held myself back as I knew as i was in no competition. So I am not "that guy". But more think the other guy was since he was just about dbl. his pace when he turned around and passed me. Or you saying pass him dont get passed? Point of my run today was going a bit longer and keeping form. i am Saying it was nice to have someone push me 3/4 into run for that sort of confidance boost .

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Just back from two weeks of vacation on Maui, with no computer. The log here is caught up now. I had high hopes for lots of extra training but it didn't work out that way. I didn't even get a run in every day so I'm way behind on the spread sheet now. I did manage to participate in an 'Aluminum Man' swim/run event that I found listed on the Valley Isle Road Runners website. Another day, I rode a bike from Paia on the coast to the top of Haleakala (10,000+ ft elevation), and back, with these guys. Awesome ride, highly recommended! Happy New year ST!
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Joe you are off the chart . Hope it was a mistake I was kind of using ya as a inspiration to run. I am just about to start the longer run portion after a light week. Was thinking about mirrroring your runs. If i could ?


Well it seemed kinda silly to be on it when this upcoming year is just a run-focused year and I'm not really triathlon training like the rest of you. I've been biking once a week and not swimming at all. I'm doing Mooseman and Timberman but I am not concerned with how I do at them.

Still if you want to see what I am doing you can always read the workouts I do. I guess I can keep logging them. The link to any user just requires the user name. Mine is this:

http://training.slowtwitch.com/members?user=joeo
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Micawber] [ In reply to ]
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Wow, the winner of the "race to the sun" was under 3 hours.....36 miles, 10,000 ft...but what's the actual grade, cause this works out to 5% average....I take it that there must be stretches that are much much steeper!
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this question may get lost here, with 450+ posts, but this is my first 100/100 and i was wondering about how the logging/tallying works.

looking at the challenge, i have a frequency of 8 listed. But I've run 21 times since Dec 15th. Is my frequency supposed to be 21?

also, i can't seem to get my new year's eve run to "stick" when it's entered. I fill out the data, hit "enter", and it never shows up in the log. Is this a glitch that sometimes happens?

I've used both a PC with firefox, and a mac with safari to try entering it, if that matters at all.

thanks for any input, and carry on...
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Thanks joe need a little more guidance to bring my level up a bit. Dont know if I can do that mileage in the times you are doing them or even do all the mileage you doing. But I will try. Been pretty much focusing on running right now. Funny enough think I gained 3-4 lbs from running in the last weeks.

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okay, answered my own entry question...clicked "calendar" to find the date instead of manually typing it, and that worked.

still wondering about the frequency, though. why i have 8 listed, instead of the total # i've done.

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Hi,
A run needs to be 30 minutes or more or it doesn't count towards the challenge. I see that you have a New Year's day run of 38 minutes (with a headache ;-))
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Thanks joe need a little more guidance to bring my level up a bit. Dont know if I can do that mileage in the times you are doing them or even do all the mileage you doing. But I will try. Been pretty much focusing on running right now. Funny enough think I gained 3-4 lbs from running in the last weeks.


That's a very common experience. Whenever I really up the mileage, I tend to find I actually gain a couple of pounds. I suspect that it is mostly the water used to store the extra glycogen your muscles need. Once your body realizes it's going to need that, it gets really good at storing glycogen.
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Wow, the winner of the "race to the sun" was under 3 hours.....36 miles, 10,000 ft...but what's the actual grade, cause this works out to 5% average....I take it that there must be stretches that are much much steeper!

The lower third of the elevation seemed easier, or I was just fresher. More false flats maybe but there was very little level or down hill. I think the hardest thing about the climb was that it was so relentless. I asked about the ride at the shop a few days before and the mechanic said most of the climb was 6% to 8% with a few sections up to 13%. Maybe he was just trying to make sure I took it seriously. My Garmin said the return trip was between 114 and 115 km, so a bit under 36 one way. I rounded up for the log. I worked out the average grade at a bit over 5% too but it sure seemed tougher.

I managed to sneak a short run in this evening. Man, I've been getting out of shape on vacation and, to tell the truth, all through the back end of last year as well. Time to get back at it.
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Hi,
A run needs to be 30 minutes or more or it doesn't count towards the challenge. I see that you have a New Year's day run of 38 minutes (with a headache ;-))

ahh, i see now when i read the first post on the thread. thanks for the clarification.
i had only read the "challenge" page on the training log, which didn't mention the 30-minute rule.

Most of my runs are at lunch, and are 25 mins, so i think i'll just drop the challenge and keep doing my own thing. I just dove-tailed into this from my own 100/100 i started back in september. I got in 92 runs since then, but a ton were only in that 25 min range. I'll be lucky to get 3 a week longer than that, so i doubt i'll crack 50 at that rate!

c'est la vie.

enjoy the challenge though
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You could also overestimate how many calories you have burned and overcompensate. I realised few years ago that when I was really tired I was eating more than I needed, probably having in mind that food is good for recovery and using it also as a reward (hard workout = more yummy food).

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Fix] [ In reply to ]
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10.25 miles in 18 degree weather with at least a constant 10-15 mph wind with gust up to 25 mph + . More then half of run was into the wind on roads between open fields. Felt good it was like I was sprinting when all the sudden the gust of winds would slow down and I had my momentum going forward. Think I even averraged out a bit better then yesterday with no sprint at mile 8 or so.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [bmanners] [ In reply to ]
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not nearly as tough as you. logged another 15 miles on the treadmill this am. sidewalks still not completely clear in denver to run that distance in the dark and not risk slipping and breaking something. so i pansied up to the treadmill.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [DrDre] [ In reply to ]
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What I did is not as tough as spending 15 miles on a dreadmill. Aint nuttin painsy like

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [bmanners] [ In reply to ]
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4.1 miles in cold rain and wind, over unplowed sidewalks and through puddles of sand-flavored margaritas (with salt, of course). I dunno . . . might possibly be willing to run on a treadmill instead of this.

Missed my run yesterday - was weatherbound out of town, without running shoes or proper clothes. Have been falling behind a good bit in general. Life keeps getting in the way.

Don't anticipate gaining much ground really soon. I promised myself not to do as much spreadsheet chasing this year. Going to try to avoid doing doubles unless a) one of them is long, b) one of them is fast, or c) they're part of a run commute.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [bmanners] [ In reply to ]
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In the words of the Duke, that run was Re-goddamned-diculous. Appropriate running weather is today in the OC, 79 degrees, high scattered clouds, you know, shorts weather.

You are waaay tougher than I want to be on the weather front.
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Micawber] [ In reply to ]
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I love the volcano ride reports. I gotta go do this one some time.

Sat and Sun were both big days of CT riding and XC skiing. No running to report. I'll get back to the running tomorrow when I am back to work and won't have mid day access to bikes nor skis. Running can be done anywhere at anytime. That's why it is so awesome!
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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4 and change mile run in 32 min on dreadmill at hdqtr's b4 work. fekt good to open up a bit there were some 10 mph 15-30 sec. sprints in there. New shoes did not come in yet. They should be in tommorow bought 2 prs. of 2140's. probably should stock pile more before I can not get them anymore. Treated myself to a nice N.Y. strip steak w/sweet potato , corn biscuit and turkey hill banana split ice cream. Was a pre celeb dinner for hitting 210 miles in three weeks. Figured all the Glycogen JoeO was talking about needed some company :)

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I also did 15 on the treadmill. We had another 8 inches of snow around here so I wan't interested in slip-slidin away.
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Basically on schedule this far into it, but because I really need biking more than running, I also signed up for the 31 hours in 31 days challenge. Looking at my log, about 18 hours is the most I've done before of cycling in a month. And will be interesting to see if I can do 47 hours of total training in January - that would be close to 10 hours more than I've ever managed before. I might have done 38 hours about a decade ago when I was only running.

One good thing is that riding on the windtrainer for the first time the past couple weeks, I'm finding I can more easily avoid going too hard. Just set a book on the end of my aerobars and I'm good with a nice 70-75% HR. Of course, I live In Florida, so I don't really NEED the wind-trainer, but it is handy when I have childcare duty or it is dark out - riding in the dark here would pretty literally be suicide.



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I just ran 8 this afternoon and it was real cold and windy and snowing. I wiped out real hard on some snow covered ice...thought I broke my ipod, but its still ticking.
You're crushing this challenge.
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Just hope it translates to better overall times and not me ending in divorce.

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I did 3 hours yesterday and completely ran out of steam after a very busy day today so this is my first rest day.

Anyone else having problems getting into the training log? It keeps asking me to sign in again, then kicks me back to the forums. Very frustrating.

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I found this discussion interesting .. since I'm new to all this, I don't know what to think. But it seems like people here are more concerned with other people's behaviour (how they log their milage, how much mileage they do, whether it should count, etc.) than they are with their own. I maybe misunderstood the purpose of this challenge, to receive motivation through personal comparison with a target (100/100) and to be motivated by seeing others achieving that.

My perspective is: if I see someone running what looks to me like an irrelevant/incompatible programme (way more than me, way shorter than me, way faster than me, whatever) then I ignore them. When I see someone running something similar and relevant to me, and whose performance motivates me, I pay attention - and use their activity to help motivate me.

So I'm sad to see JoeO drop out of the challenge - as someone who is focussing primarily on running myself, it was a pleasure to see someone whose performance I was aspiring to emulate and sad to see them vanish from the rankings. Sure I can go find his results elsewhere, but it's a shame that he has to drop out because some find his presence in the rankings uncomfortable. I for one, would like to see him back.

My own situation, is that I just started running a couple of years ago. Over that time I've been running my commute (because it's the best time I have available with a young family) ... I started out running one day a week, and now I'm up to 4 days a week fairly consistently. I've been focussing on frequency rather than mileage as in the past I had knee trouble and didnt want to push the miles too early. I've recently started adding a little lunchtime swimming, a couple of times a week. And slowly, now I'm starting to increase the miles ... by a combination of slightly lengthening my route, adding a once a week morning long run, and adding a once a week intervals run. I don't want to be pressured into switching from my "comfortable"/"safe" injury free 5.5/6k 30 min-ish twice daily run into a higher risk single 60 min run of twice that distance. Nor do I want to go back to commuting by car so that I can find the extra time to do that.

Now perhaps I'm also an example of what others in this challenge don't want to see: a high frequency 30 min primarily runner, running relatively slowly compared to the many seasoned tri-athletes here. At 47 years old, I know I'm never going to be a great tri-athlete. Maybe I'll do my first mini/promo-triathlon later this year and it will be my last ... who knows. But I found this challenge motivating and being in the presence of so many obviously strong runners (who are probably even stronger swimmers and cyclists) also quite inspiring. I'm no idiot, I know my limits and I won't risk my health and fitness just to chase a spreadsheet. So I'm willing to be accountable top myself for my own behaviour in a challenge like this.

If others find my participation demotivating or unhelpful in this challenge, I'll gladly leave it - but I won't do that for just one other person (to that person I'd say "please just ignore me in the challenge") but if many of you (who were here before me, and who are true triathletes) would prefer not to see me here, then I'll leave. If not, I vote (ask) that we invite JoeO to come back, so that at least one other person (me) can benefit from the purpose of inviting him to participate in the first place.

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PS It's not as cold here in Geneva as some of you are suffering ... just an inch of snow this morning, and -6 celcius yesterday. I rarely have to run in snow .. but since I run commute, I run in whatever the weather: driving rain, snow, ice, sun, wind ... otherwise I don't get to the office. And those conditions sometimes affect my speed. I don't care ... I'm doing it for me, and I'm glad that I have the health and luck to be able to do it. I don't begrudge anyone one else their good health, weather, speed or fortune either.
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Hey thanks for the heads up.....was not reading all the posts....Joe, why drop out. Stay in it. You're providing motivation to lots of folks!
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If it was not for Joe and Mike I probably would not be where I am now in the challenge. New shoes came just in time plan on doing a 30 minute run today in them and tommorow to "break in". Tuesday to next tuesday is going to be a "rest week" for me maybe only 5 or 6 runs. Nothing to far over 30 minutes. Just hope I can hold back intensitey of runs. I bought two pr. is it better to rotate them or run till one pr is done then start the other pr.? That is the way I have been doing it. I heard to rotate them but way I see it mileage is mileage.

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I bought two pr. is it better to rotate them or run till one pr is done then start the other pr.?

I have experimented with this and find that rotating gets longer life from both. Why? Supposedly rotating allows the shoe to dry out between runs which makes them last longer. I don't know if this is true, but my experience is that I get 310-320 miles doing one pair at a time and 330-350 rotating them. I use New Balance 99x with an orthotic and feel it in that muscle outside my shins the DAY they go bad.
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Thanks!
I felt them go bad about 2 weeks ago. I was looking at new shoes first week of 1oo/100 but was to cheap to spend 110.00 for shoes at x-mas tie. Ended getting the 2140's for 79.00 each plus had 50. gift certificate. The shoes finally came..... well I ordered them a week ago. Not a minute to soon got 2 blisters :(My payback 4 being cheap:) on my feet during yesterdays long run. I use the superfeet orth's but shhh.... don't tell dev that. I will try rotating these. Do you do day for day every other day or week for week. I do not wear them for beating around I use the old used up ones for that.

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I rotate by the day. Probably should do it by the run, but I am too lazy to move the orthotics. (Have I set a new low in laziness?)
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You are doing this challenge correctly, IMO. I won't be talked into doing more than my schedule says just so I can "compete". Stick with this. There are those of us who aren't in this for big mileage numbers!

Maybe we just need to be more vocal about it so others doing the same thing don't get drowned out.

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I doing it for fun...........FUN.........how's that Jen?
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You are doing this challenge correctly, IMO. I won't be talked into doing more than my schedule says just so I can "compete". Stick with this. There are those of us who aren't in this for big mileage numbers!

Maybe we just need to be more vocal about it so others doing the same thing don't get drowned out.


+1

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I doing it for fun...........FUN.........how's that Jen?

What's this fun you speak of?

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I agree with Jen. Do this challenge within your means (current base and existing plan for the winter).

Use it for motivation when you're having a tough time sticking to your program. Don't use it to go way beyond your existing program by layering on extra workouts just to keep up with anonymous online posters. They won't be there to pull you out of your misery when you are injured.
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I have layed down a huge base from a few months before last years 100/100. I did mainly 30-35 minute runs that whole time and that helped me immensley shaving over 30 minutes (Think/know my time would have been even better if I did not crash and walk around NYC shopping 10 hrs a day for two days before the race :) from my NYC tri time. I worked it up over the last year slowly. I would be doing this anyway even if there was not a challenge. Seems I am a bit addicted to the running now. Can that be so.....nah that is not possable. If you do go back in my run log over the last year you will see some 50- 58 mile run weeks in there. This is the first time I have strung together 3-70 mile weeks.before this I have logged two 50some mile weeks. This is the first time I have ever strung together that kind mileage. I do not know where I am going with this training I mainly do sprint, oly and a half or so. Like Jime said doing it for fun. I enjoy the run time just to get out and run for runnings sake. But I also agree with Dev do not go beyond your current fitness and get caught up in chasing the spreadsheet. I actually made a flimsy half ass plan just before the warm up to the 100/100 to get my endurance up and to get me faster using the 100/100.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Dev,
I agree with you and Jen that there is too much spreadsheet chasing. Last year, I did 900+k in the challenge and did just under 3100k for the year. The base was a bit higher than the weekly average but not significantly. I was weekly averaging about 65k for most of the year with a few points over the 80k during the last phase of the challenge. I am am looking for roughly the same runs with 950+k as a goal. I also keep my tri training going during the challenge and push the volume in the water during the challenge and ride 4-5 per week. Now I have over 40 years under my belt with a past of high mileage in my youth. but to see people running 70+ miles per week and the yearly mileage averaging less than half that per week at best is a recipe for disaster. The challenge is a great tool if done correctly but if not it can be a danger or a trip to the doctor. I run 5x per week 6 x times during 3-5 week build periods. During the challenge I will run 6 times per week with 7 or 8 during a week or two overload. We are seeing people with a program of 3 or 4 runs per week now running ten times per week. I ran that kind of frequency when I ran 90+ week. If you look at the experienced runner here the challenge puts them slightly over the weekly average for the year.
I had a nice talk at Clearwater with Craig Alexander about his run training and found out that he had a mileage base for the year and overloaded about 25-35% during a 3-4 week build period for Kona. This is is from the best in our sport.
As a coach , i think a lot of athletes on the site are looking for the magic bullet and do not realize that the object is to go from 4 runs per week in year one to 5 times in year 2 and so on so forth each year. It is how you progress from season to season. If you look at successful athletes in any sport the really good ones build on their success and keep injuries to a minimum. Injury forces you backward not forward so do appropriate increases year to year. When I was younger I went from one level to the next in sequence and managed to get down to pretty fast 10k times open and in triathlons but it was accomplished with patience and consistency. Also when doing mileage you must keep an eye on your shoes because they do not last long with high mileage. Probably only 350-400 miles before the midsole breaks down.
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Scot] [ In reply to ]
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Huh. People agree with me. Looks like I'm getting smarter!

I do hope everyone is having fun with this. I built up a huge running base for this, running pretty much every day for the last year, so injury isn't likely unless I get stupid. Everyone needs to follow their body's messages.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [JenHS] [ In reply to ]
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Jen,
I have been involved in running as a compeititor and coach for over 40 years and went many years without missing a day running. The way you prepared for challenge is a natural progression into your training program and goals. I just hope everyone use the challenge for what it is and not mindless 30 minute runs at slow paces. The challenge is not the competition but rather a tool for the athlete to reach their goals in competition.
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Scot] [ In reply to ]
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Thanks Scot.

I think for everyone the safest thing is to take your mileage for the entire year of 2009. Divide by 52. This is your baseline target weekly mileage during this challenge.

If you are a 2600K 2009 runner (very few of you here on this challenge), that works out to a starting point of 50K. The challenge lasts for 14 weeks or so. Don't suddenly believe that you can go from a 50 k per week runner for an entire year to a 80 kpw runner for 14 weeks (over a quarter of a year).

People "THINK" they are 50 mile per week runners, because they take a couple of peak weeks and think that is what they did all year, when in reality, for a lot of these folks they are really 20 mile per week runners (averaging through the year). Then suddenly it's back to 50 miles per week and by the 4th or 5th week things are going the wrong way. As Scot says, getting injured will take you backwards.

Be honest with the assessment of what your base really is. I'd go further and take the aggregate of the last 3 years and divide that by 156....to get your weekly target mileage sustainable minimum....from there you can then assess how much you can safely push.

Dev
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Dev,
The other thing that I am seeing is people starting this chalenge in a mad rush. Now I am not talking about poeple who are accomplished runners with a high mileage base but the object of this challenge is to build that you are strongest at the end of the 100 days. I was way ahead with my running program (mileageand speed) as the challenge was about to start and took 10 days off to bring my pace to base building and the tempo stuff back to the appropriate level for January. I look for a peak in the spring and another peak in the fall so age group pr's are not for December and January without risking injury for the peak.
"Flying in January,Frying in October" That was said by Mark Allen and I think of that when I am going too hard at the wrong times. If you run 50 times per 100 days the rest of the year maybe 70 runs should be the goal and not double the amount of runs at this time. Like it has been mentioned on this thread before the object is to improve for the season. I also think that one needs to put the mileage in at the proper paces or the normal training paces for their current level of fitness.
I hope everyone is enjoying the challenge but keep it in perspective.
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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People "THINK" they are 50 mile per week runners, because they take a couple of peak weeks and think that is what they did all year, when in reality, for a lot of these folks they are really 20 mile per week runners (averaging through the year). Then suddenly it's back to 50 miles per week and by the 4th or 5th week things are going the wrong way. As Scot says, getting injured will take you backwards.

I like this, because I think in a base period I'm a 25-30 mpw runner. By the end of this I'll probably be a 30-40 mpw runner.

This all comes back to "common sense". Train what your body is capable of handling, not what you wish it was capable of.
Last year I stuck to a high diet of 30 minute runs for the first several weeks, because that is what I felt my body was
capable of. This year I have a number of 30 minute runs, but I also have 50 minute runs in there. My distance is
up, but ONLY because my base is more solid.

You forget this at your own peril.

IMO. YMMV. JenHS is smart. ;)

-Jot



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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I think the challenge should have two purposes: 1) to increase your running totals (there by improving your running) and 2) the whole point of the challenge is exactly that to "Challenge" yourself. Having said that it has to work into where you are in your training. Last year my "challenge" was to run as much as possible because it was a run focus time for me (with a spring marathon).
This year, I am using the cahllenge in the exact opposite way, I don't want to see my name in the top half of the standings, because I am focusing on my biking/swimming this off-season. So when I see myself in 95 place, I know that I am right on track;-) (further reinforced by sorting the challenge by Aerobic points, I leap from 95th to 18th still a ways off the top aerobic points guys but I am ok with that)

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [_EH_] [ In reply to ]
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Yesterday was a trail run at Toro County Park in Monterey County. Today was a run through Carmel. Gee, California is ridiculously handsome.

My stint as professional vacationer ends today when I fly back to Florida.


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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [gamebofh] [ In reply to ]
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JenHS is smart. ;)

Yay! More sig file fodder.

Took Sunday off because I was exhaused. Short, non-official length run yesterday and rest day today. Tapering for a 50k :-)

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [JenHS] [ In reply to ]
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I took a day off too from running. Did do 1 hr 15 min on spin bike basically 10 minute semi hard warm up a hour hard then 5 minute cooldown. The 25 minutes in the pool. Pool water felt great on legs and 25 minutes went by fast. Not saying I was fast though :) But NO run, and it's eating away at me like rust though a old Datsun 280z. I will take a slow 30 minute run tommorow to start break in of other pair of new sneaks. So I can rotate them into next weeks runs.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [gamebofh] [ In reply to ]
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I should have run during Ottawa lunch time. Instead, I planned to run during San Jose lunch time (3-4 pm EST, 12-1 pm PST) as most of my work is with the team there. My entire afternoon going to 7 pm got sucked up by other meetings. I should know better by now. Let's see if I can squeeze in 30 minutes before dinner. Its not like anyone at home waits for me to get home before eating anyway :-)
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Question for easy week training. Is it counter productive to replace reduced running time with increased swimming time?
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I noticed that someone finally made it after over a year that "Challenges" aren't "*New*" on the
icon anymore.

Just as I was about to PM Rappstar to tease him about it. :)

-Jot
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [gamebofh] [ In reply to ]
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ARGH! I can't get my login to work on the training log. Keeps asking me to login, kicking me back here, then it goes around again.

Stooopid log....

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [JenHS] [ In reply to ]
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [triinghard] [ In reply to ]
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I had to add it to my "safe" list. First time for everything I guess. Finally caught up.

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [JenHS] [ In reply to ]
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That's cool, but now you're in front of me! Not that I pay attention to such things:)
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [JenHS] [ In reply to ]
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Another day off from running today, but still ahead of 8K per day pace (800K target). I really need to get back to the pool...then again, maybe I'll give myself another month off swimming so that I am actually motivated to get chlorinated again!
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Pool? What's that?

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I actually kinda swam today if 600 yards counts. Needed to justify sitting in the hot tub after my second --totally only for the purpose of padding the spreadsheet-- run today killing time before the flight home.

No reason to lecture as I did some hard intervals this morning ;-)
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I'm joining. I had a personal goal to run at least 6 times a week, which by my quick and dirty calculations puts me at 84 or 85 runs.

Assuming my legs are still with me in March, I might try a few doubles if I can to hit Gold level.
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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [Jamison] [ In reply to ]
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I'm feeling consistently good on my runs. So far so good.

Today was 64 min on the West Orange Trail (Orlando, FL) in the dark and cold (40 F). I was well bundled up, so it was just pure running, no bitching. Did some good pickups on the way back, counting the left-foot strikes: 10, 15, 20, etc.


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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I would like to find any studies that show advantages to increased frequency of workouts. There seems to be a lot of information floating around suggesting 7 runs per week burns for calories than 4 runs of the same mileage - or better yet 14 runs. Does anyone know of any original research out there I could read? Thanks!!

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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Celebrated my 33rd birthday yesterday buy running 33... errr... 3+3 miles. 6.

Had intended to come home and when my wife asked what I'd like for my birthday to say Bike 1 hr and Run 1 hr... instead she had a babysitter for the kids, and ready to go out to dinner. Not having had a private dinner sans kids in quite some time we went out and had fun.

Came home at 9:30PM (after some good italian and wine) and at least got the run in.

So hoping to get on the trainer 1 hr tonight... and 33 miles sat and sun and end up with 33 miles running for the week.

Not sure why i care about the 33 so much. Care more about the number in terms of miles than years. Lol.


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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [geoffreydean] [ In reply to ]
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I would like to find any studies that show advantages to increased frequency of workouts. There seems to be a lot of information floating around suggesting 7 runs per week burns for calories than 4 runs of the same mileage - or better yet 14 runs. Does anyone know of any original research out there I could read? Thanks!!

No original research, but I have heard the same things. There are two basic reasons behind the theory - the first one I suspect is subject to more disagreement.

1.After running, your metabolism stays high for a period of time, so that will happen twice a day instead of once, burning some extra calories.

2.Your body burns more calories for the same effort earlier in a run. Studies have shown for instance that if you do a short warmup and then run ten miles at marathon pace, you burn a few more calories in the first mile than in the tenth mile. One reason why the first 5-10 minutes of a race where depletion is a limiting factor (longer than 2 hours for most people) should be done easier.


Personally, I have my doubts that splitting your run into two runs burns enough extra calories to make much difference. If you burn an extra 100 calories a day and leave everything else the same, it's a LONG time before you lose an extra pound. I rarely have done regular double runs because I don't think it's the most effective way to train for longer races, plus I work 12-8 which makes it tougher. But I actually enjoy two thirty minute runs more than an hour run, so during the challenge I've done a few doubles and will continue to do them. It allows me to run a bit faster for the same effort and I always "feel" like I'm getting in shape faster when I do them.



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Re: 100/100 Runs Challenge (Started Dec 15th, not too late to join) [eparrot] [ In reply to ]
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Did a 32 minute run today around a 6min 50 sec pace on treadmill. need to run outside to slow myself up. Took yesterday completely off from running and the day before also. Though I did ski 4 hrs yesterday and bike, swim the day before. If you can call the Pocono's skiing. UP Down, Up down, repeat. You get the point. Keeping the rest of the weeks runs short and upping daily run mileage next week instead of doing two runs will most likely do a 10-12 mile run weather and time permitting. As I see my frequency lead melt away. Ahhh I am melting ... Not that I care see if I can get the mileage up there now 10 % increases dont want to go crazy. Staring to mix more bike and swim into the mix now doing mostly brick workouts because of time constraints. Yes in a perfect world I would do them seperatly

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