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Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!!
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    OK, my coach (Joel Filliol or czone) just posted so I better get this done. The approach to this race was very different than previous IM's. My biggest weeks were around 25hrs consisting of 2 very hard swims...as much as possible under 1:10pace per 100m short course. 2 very hard bikes with as much as possible way above IM pace. 2 very hard runs, again way above IM pace. The rest was just fluff. There were a couple bigger ride and run days getting closer to the race. Longest ride was 4 hours, longest run was 2 hours. As for the specifics you will all have to wait until Joel goes into private coaching again (if ever) and pay him the big $$$ to get the perfect program for you :) This approach was also a must for me due to work commitments. Even finding 25 hrs per week is getting difficult. Thanks again Joel for the great program.

As for the race itself I have never been so patient in an IM. I waited until the 10km run marker to start racing hard. This allowed my stomach to be the best it has ever been in an IM race. I took in at least 6 more gels than usual in the last 30km of the run and they were all sitting well. I was taking these with water. The bike (riding my ultra-comfortable Ordu) was a steady effort on the flats, very easy climbs and I let the watts drop to almost nothing on the downhills. I also let the power drop way down with the strong tail winds. I don't see the point in doing extra work to go a few km/h faster on the fast parts when I can have a rest instead....it's a long race.

I figure CDA is about 10min slower than IMC so I'm counting my 8:34 as best time. I pissed away 2-3 min in the last few miles but nobody really cares about times. I enjoyed the finish.

Tom
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Let me be the 1st to reply here and congratulate you - big time!

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Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!!

Tom,

Who's your bike sponsor again? :)


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Or be a ... what?


Great race Dr. Tommy. I guess you showed them trashy triathletes a thing or two.

;-)


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I'm not sure how fast you went or what place you came in, but you should have pushed on those downhills, that's what all the powergeeks say you should do...
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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [drtommy] [ In reply to ]
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AWESOME. I was talking with Jordan on Sunday about your race and we are continually amazed at how your run times just seem to be getting faster and faster! Now that I think about it, Jordan's running has gotten faster as well. Hmmmm....

I also love how you rode "so easy" and yet managed to put a HUGE gap on the rest of the field. If only I could "rest" at that kind of wattage... :p


Let's see here:

Crush the field in the swim
DOMINATE on the bike
Then only start to race hard after 10km on the run...


ouch - I'm glad I'm not a pro who has to race against you!


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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [drtommy] [ In reply to ]
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Wow! Thanks for posting. Lots of interesting tidbits there, especially "Longest ride was 4 hours, longest run was 2 hours." Makes me wonder why I'm doing 6 hr rides and 3 hr runs for a solid MOP finish.


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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [bmas] [ In reply to ]
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Reminds me a bit of Peter Sandvang's approach....maybe the other Danes are using the same approach...Lots of race pace and above race pace stuff. No ride longer than 4h. Once a week a 2-3hrs ride really fast. Same deal on the run. Overall, not much volume, but a lot of IM pace and above.
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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [jtntexas] [ In reply to ]
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but you should have pushed on those downhills, that's what all the powergeeks say you should do...

Which powergeeks would those be? I'm not aware of any "power geek" who would recommend pushing on the downhills. I'm sure there's one or two somewhere though.


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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [drtommy] [ In reply to ]
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I watched you rip past me on the bike course and you were looking for the others chasing you. I was amazed at how far back they were, you crushed it!!

It was exciting watching you race.

(I shared the house with the Calgary kids, Luke and Rose. I ride a Diva.)

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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [drtommy] [ In reply to ]
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OK, my coach (Joel Filliol or czone) just posted so I better get this done. The approach to this race was very different than previous IM's. My biggest weeks were around 25hrs consisting of 2 very hard swims...as much as possible under 1:10pace per 100m short course. 2 very hard bikes with as much as possible way above IM pace. 2 very hard runs, again way above IM pace. The rest was just fluff.

CONGRATULATIONS!!

Hmm, your training sounds a lot like someone else's Ironman training that I know. :) Yes, we'll just keep the secrets of Coach Joel between us.

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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [drtommy] [ In reply to ]
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Great race Tom!

Did you change your mind about October?
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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [bmas] [ In reply to ]
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"Makes me wonder why I'm doing 6 hr rides and 3 hr runs for a solid MOP finish"

No disrespect intended to you, but in my case a 6 hour training ride probably covers about the same distance as Dr. Tommy's 4 hours "above race pace". I'm sure if I could take it easy and knock off a 4:45 IM bike split I could eliminate the 6 hour rides too.

Nice work Dr. Tommy!!
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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [S McGregor] [ In reply to ]
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Post #7

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...t_reply;so=ASC;mh=25;

"Basically no different than IM:

- For long downhills I wouldn't coast <35mph. I'd keep power steady but probably more like 60 - 75% of FTP depending on speed."

I would submit that achieving 75% of FTP is pushing it...
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but you should have pushed on those downhills, that's what all the powergeeks say you should do...

Which powergeeks would those be? I'm not aware of any "power geek" who would recommend pushing on the downhills. I'm sure there's one or two somewhere though.
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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [jtntexas] [ In reply to ]
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Well, since the range was 60-75%, I'm not sure "pushing it" is what was being advocated. I think most "reasonable" people will agree that best pacing constitutes going harder on the up than on the down. As was stated somewhere in that thread (sorry, don't feel like weeding through it again), the question is, how much harder? (as a side note though, there are still LOTS of people who will actually *push* it, meaning going harder on the down than the up, because they "feel" faster).

I guess my interpretation from the recommendation you cite would be that the average of those values would lie below 70%, and, depending on your FTP, that may or may not be "pushing it".


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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [drtommy] [ In reply to ]
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Congratulations Dr. Tommy!
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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [jtntexas] [ In reply to ]
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You should read more closely. That was not a triathlon thread, that was a thread regarding cycling only (it's in the title), that's why the advice is different.
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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [S McGregor] [ In reply to ]
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You asked, I answered. I guess we could disagree on my undefined choice of "pushing it"; however, coasting/soft pedaling is far different than putting out 70 or 75% of one's FTP on a descent. That was the position explicitly advocated, and that was not the race that Dr. Tommy ran.
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Well, since the range was 60-75%, I'm not sure "pushing it" is what was being advocated. I think most "reasonable" people will agree that best pacing constitutes going harder on the up than on the down. As was stated somewhere in that thread (sorry, don't feel like weeding through it again), the question is, how much harder? (as a side note though, there are still LOTS of people who will actually *push* it, meaning going harder on the down than the up, because they "feel" faster).

I guess my interpretation from the recommendation you cite would be that the average of those values would lie below 70%, and, depending on your FTP, that may or may not be "pushing it".

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But I really don't want to bugger up this thread. I wrote tongue in cheek mainly because of the dude that was lecturing Dr. Tommy on swimming without knowing that he is an IM champ. His victory and amazing ability to balance work/family first and still come out on top should be the focus!
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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [drtommy] [ In reply to ]
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Congratulations!!! That's awesome!
May I ask how many hours you work on average per week and if you take time off to train extra during race season?
I'm curious since my plans for life in the coming years is to become like you, only I will work as a psychologist instead of dentist :)

Johan
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Wow Great job!! Congratulations!
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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [drtommy] [ In reply to ]
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Simply amazing!

Thanks for giving me a very fun Sunday! It was great to watch you come through that chute.

:-)

Jodi

PS. A big congrats to Coach Joel as well. He has had one HELL of a year!
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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [drtommy] [ In reply to ]
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I pissed away 2-3 min in the last few miles but nobody really cares about times. I enjoyed the finish.


It's great that you had a chance to enjoy the moment--that's not pissing anything away.

Congrats.
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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [drtommy] [ In reply to ]
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The bike (riding my ultra-comfortable Ordu) was a steady effort on the flats, very easy climbs and I let the watts drop to almost nothing on the downhills.

Could you share what your VI was?

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Oh yeah, congrats!
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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [drtommy] [ In reply to ]
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Congratulations on a fantastic race.
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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [drtommy] [ In reply to ]
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I knew it, he did not use Powercransk in his training! Where is Frank?
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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [Francois] [ In reply to ]
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Reminds me a bit of Peter Sandvang's approach....maybe the other Danes are using the same approach...Lots of race pace and above race pace stuff. No ride longer than 4h. Once a week a 2-3hrs ride really fast. Same deal on the run. Overall, not much volume, but a lot of IM pace and above.
How can anyone race that fast without any 6hr bike/2hr run bricks on a regular basis? I'm soooo confused...

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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [drtommy] [ In reply to ]
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Congrats indeed. Very nice.
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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [jtntexas] [ In reply to ]
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You asked, I answered. I guess we could disagree on my undefined choice of "pushing it"; however, coasting/soft pedaling is far different than putting out 70 or 75% of one's FTP on a descent. That was the position explicitly advocated, and that was not the race that Dr. Tommy ran.
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Well, since the range was 60-75%, I'm not sure "pushing it" is what was being advocated. I think most "reasonable" people will agree that best pacing constitutes going harder on the up than on the down. As was stated somewhere in that thread (sorry, don't feel like weeding through it again), the question is, how much harder? (as a side note though, there are still LOTS of people who will actually *push* it, meaning going harder on the down than the up, because they "feel" faster).

I guess my interpretation from the recommendation you cite would be that the average of those values would lie below 70%, and, depending on your FTP, that may or may not be "pushing it".

Well, without the data, we really don't know do we. He also claimed to ride the hills,,......

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very easy climbs

So, if he was going easy on the ups, coasting on the the downs, and steady on the flats, it seems he wasn't "pushing it" at all on the bike. It seems as if he was just out on a Sunday ride enjoying the scenery. If that is the case, the impressive win is even that more.... well,... impressive. It's not really indicative of any particular pacing strategy other than taking it easy on the bike, which, again depending on your definition of "taking it easy", is a great approach if you have a nice cushy lead and can finish off the run. Again, without data, this is all merely speculation and I may be waayyy off.

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But I really don't want to bugger up this thread.

Well, that's exactly why I refrained from mentioning the "elephant in the room", but since Tressitori seems to have mentioned it the thread is going to get buggered up regardless.

BTW, congrats to him on the win.


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Awesome stuff Dr Tommy!

Sounds like your plan was dialed in for training and executed to perfection.
Enjoy your time off
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I'm not sure how fast you went or what place you came in, but you should have pushed on those downhills, that's what all the powergeeks say you should do...
THat's because I think they've misunderstood the modelling.... while the optimum powerprofile on a hilly course will have a low VI, and have you pushing down the hills at between 50 and 60% of FTP, the optium powerprofile for higher VI's where you take it much easier down the hills, and reapply that power on the uphills is only fractionally slower.
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I would submit that achieving 75% of FTP is pushing it

And I would submit that you're wrong. ;-)

As a steady power (i.e., VI=1.00, AP=NP), 75% of functional threshold power is on the border between a level 1 recovery effort and a level 2 "all day pace" effort.

One other thing to note: we don't know if Dr. Tommy performed well because of, or in spite of, his pacing strategy on the bike. IOW, although he rode and then ran well, that doesn't mean the strategy he adopted was optimal.
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Nice work Dr Evans!! Congrats to you and Joel.

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Dude, huge congrats...it's been a while since the IMC-IMFLA double.

So what's next on the agenda? Will you try to set a PB on the home town IMC course, or back to Kona to put down a 2:50 run in the lava fields?....

I love the 4 hour max bike, 2 hour max run and doing "hard stuff" approach. Now I'm feeling better about my "ironman on half ironman training plan this year..."

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...0on%20half%20ironman;

Although I did do an extra 6 hour ride this past weekend.

By the way, what was your max run mileage week in the final 8 weeks and what was your max run mileage week in your winter run focus? Did the winter XC ski racing help the "intensity plan"

Dev
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I would submit that achieving 75% of FTP is pushing it

And I would submit that you're wrong. ;-)

As a steady power (i.e., VI=1.00, AP=NP), 75% of functional threshold power is on the border between a level 1 recovery effort and a level 2 "all day pace" effort.

One other thing to note: we don't know if Dr. Tommy performed well because of, or in spite of, his pacing strategy on the bike. IOW, although he rode and then ran well, that doesn't mean the strategy he adopted was optimal.
Wow, another thing we can agree on. I think that makes two now (but the other was so long ago I can't remember what it was).

It is clear he had a very good race plan and it fit well with his "physiology" for the day. One can never know if it was optimal or not as there might always have been a better plan, but one cannot know unless one tries it and does better. One would have to think it was close to an optimal plan for him due to his dominance on the bike and run over everyone except two people, the, odds down, best biker of the bunch and one of the better runners of the bunch.

Further, the best plan for this course may be completely different for another course, where the profile and turns are completely different.

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Makes me wonder why I'm doing 6 hr rides and 3 hr runs for a solid MOP finish.

I think you should seriously be looking at the incremental training value of that 3 hour run, vs the recovery penalty and impact on the entire week that follows....
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How can anyone race that fast without any 6hr bike/2hr run bricks on a regular basis? I'm soooo confused...

More importantly, how many squats was he doing every day? I'll bet THAT's the secret. :)


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The secret is not doing squats every day. Just squats every second day...the non squats day is a PC day...and every swim day is doing band pull, no pull buoy. Did we miss anything?

Dr. Tom, what was your fastest Apex TT time leading up to CdA and how does it compared to your last few 2nd place finishes at IMLP and IMCdA? For those who don't know about the Apex TT, this is an uphill climb that is just as hard as doing Alpe d'Huez...the difference between the 2 mountains is barely a 1 minute. Dr. Tommy would do this climb in his aerobars training for Kona....the theory being if you can stay aero on a sustained 45-50 min climb (for Dr. Tom....55+ for mere mortals), you can stay aero in the worst wind gusts that Kona has to offer.

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The secret is not doing squats every day. Just squats every second day...the non squats day is a PC day...and every swim day is doing band pull, no pull buoy. Did we miss anything?

It's hard to keep up with all the latest on the benefits of squats to the IM athlete. But I can certainly see how interspersing squats with PCs would maximize the benefit. :)


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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [steveperx] [ In reply to ]
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No no....the key here is overlaying the band pull on top of the alternative PC and squat days. Without that you can't link the positive benefits of squats with those of PC's. Consider it like two sine waves that are out of phase...you want to bring them into phase so that the amplitudes are additive and not destructive. Band pull is the Dr. Tommy secret way of making this happen...EDIT: forgot to mention that you want to also do all your training with your seat too high and drop it an inch on race day and switch over 190mm cranks...
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Fair enough. "Pushing it" isn't exactly an accurate phrase, and depends wholly on the context. However the "all day pace" effort I assume is different than letting the watts drop next to nothing. I guess if Dr. Tommy will share his power file, we will see if the original statement from the other thread that riding in an IM one would want to descend by putting out 75% of one's FTP was accurate in this case (of course with a giant asterisk that did he win "in spite of, or because of" this strategy).



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I would submit that achieving 75% of FTP is pushing it

And I would submit that you're wrong. ;-)

As a steady power (i.e., VI=1.00, AP=NP), 75% of functional threshold power is on the border between a level 1 recovery effort and a level 2 "all day pace" effort.

One other thing to note: we don't know if Dr. Tommy performed well because of, or in spite of, his pacing strategy on the bike. IOW, although he rode and then ran well, that doesn't mean the strategy he adopted was optimal.
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Congrats on a fantastic race and for justifying smart training rather than plain old bulk training. Great job.


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Congrats, awesome race - Saw you about mile 20 when I was headed out on the run and couldn't believe the gap you had on VZ. That must have been really fun after last year. Great speech at the awards dinner too.
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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [jtntexas] [ In reply to ]
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dr tommy already shared his powerfile on the first post of this thread....go back and see.

and the graph and data are express in a very similar way as with my own brainpowermeter also!

sorry.... but you wont get any more data than that.... he dosnt ride a srm or powertap or ergomo..... just a brainpowermeter!

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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [Frank Day] [ In reply to ]
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One can never know if it was optimal or not as there might always have been a better plan, but one cannot know unless one tries it and does better.

The problem with such an empirical approach, at least for events such as an Ironman, is the "cost": because each race represents a significant physical effort requiring prolonged recovery, and is also usually quite important in its own right, there is little opportunity or incentive to experiment with different pacing strategies. In contrast, somebody doing, say, a 3 km pursuit in cycling can try different pacing strategies several times a week in training, and thus quickly hone in on the one that produces the best performance (i.e., lowest time).

The upshot of the above is that the modeling approach becomes more and more useful the longer the event becomes. That's especially true because you have the "luxury" of being able to adjust your pace "on the fly", vs. something like a 3 km pursuit where if you overcook the 1st couple of laps your chances of a PB are dramatically diminished even if you do attempt to compensate.

Something tells me that modeling of pacing strategies is going to come 'round again as a discussion topic quite soon. ;-)
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One can never know if it was optimal or not as there might always have been a better plan, but one cannot know unless one tries it and does better.


Something tells me that modeling of pacing strategies is going to come 'round again as a discussion topic quite soon. ;-)
I'm ready and waiting.
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One can never know if it was optimal or not as there might always have been a better plan, but one cannot know unless one tries it and does better.


Something tells me that modeling of pacing strategies is going to come 'round again as a discussion topic quite soon. ;-)
I'm ready and waiting.
Heh. Right after posting that I surfed over to the wattage list on google (which I haven't visited in a while) to see that Alex had posted his 'pacing optimization index' article...good stuff!!
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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [Andrew Coggan] [ In reply to ]
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I'll hve to take a look.. i've been reluctant to join so far for fear of creating another sink on my time...
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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [bmas] [ In reply to ]
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Well, I do not know much about your background" but there is a a) huge base to rely on and b) and I sure that those 4 hours ride & 2 hours run have a greater "workload" (i.e. effort*duration) that your (or mine) 6h rides or 3h runs.
Also a 3h run is going to require more recovery than a 2h run & therefore having some impact on some of your training.

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dr tommy already shared his powerfile on the first post of this thread....go back and see.

he dosnt ride a srm or powertap or ergomo..... just a brainpowermeter!

DrTommy was one of the original test subjects used in the development of, and the model for the upper-end profiles used in developing KhaiPowertm


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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [fred_h] [ In reply to ]
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Fred, I'm doing a 26 mile run. I'll cover the first 13 miles in 1:35-1:40 starting at 6 am on Thursday, then I will take a refuelling break, that will last for 22.5 hours and resume the run at 6 am on Friday and do the final 13 miles also in 1:35-1:40. I will let you know if this 2x13 mile interval set with 22:30 hour rest period works at ironman LP :-)

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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [drtommy] [ In reply to ]
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great stuff tom

congrats for another victory !!!

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Re: Drtommy CDA race report.....ORBEA, ORBEA, ORBEA!!! [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Can you describe exactly what & how to do/use the band pull in swimming? And what % to whole swim time is?
Also how many squats/ session with how much weight etc.
Thanks, Barb
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