This is where it goes off the rails.
"I'm a woman, right," said Willoughby. "Forget about any 't's, or anything in front of it. So, on that score, you would date me, wouldn't you?"
"Not if you told me you was trans," replied Ginuwine.
"No, no, I'm not telling you I'm trans," Willoughby insisted. "I'm a woman."
Increasingly, it's not enough to accept trans people for who and what they are; if you don't recognize them as entirely Woman, no different from every other woman, you're transphobic and insulting.
This is why I hold the line on pronouns. Words mean things, and you don't get to redefine entire functional categories based on how you feel about being categorized.
I'm happy to oblige and not call a trans man "he" if he objects, but there's no onus on me or anyone else to categorize a trans male as "she." I think that's a pretty reasonable accommodation, on both sides.
The devil made me do it the first time, second time I done it on my own - W
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When discussing dating, Willoughby complained that Ginuwine would date women but not him, claiming he really is a woman. When Ginuwine conceded that he would not date Willoughby if he knew he were trans, things escalated. "I'm a woman, right," said Willoughby. "Forget about any 't's, or anything in front of it. So, on that score, you would date me, wouldn't you?"
"Not if you told me you was trans," replied Ginuwine.
"No, no, I'm not telling you I'm trans," Willoughby insisted. "I'm a woman."
Increasingly, it's not enough to accept trans people for who and what they are; if you don't recognize them as entirely Woman, no different from every other woman, you're transphobic and insulting.
This is why I hold the line on pronouns. Words mean things, and you don't get to redefine entire functional categories based on how you feel about being categorized.
I'm happy to oblige and not call a trans man "he" if he objects, but there's no onus on me or anyone else to categorize a trans male as "she." I think that's a pretty reasonable accommodation, on both sides.
The devil made me do it the first time, second time I done it on my own - W