"What I care is that what was taken from others is restored (podium placements, Kona slots etc) and that measures are put in place so that neither Julie Miller nor anyone in our community can easily circumvent the system."
so, i called triathlon canada about this. you have this athlete. do you have an interest in what's going on? either helping her be vindicated, or if she's guilty helping inoculate future competitors against the specter of course cutting?
at first, it took me one entire conversation just to convince the media liaison person that, yes, IM Canada was sanctioned by the NF. but i got a follow up email:
"please note that while the course was sanctioned by Triathlon BC, the race competition rules for the event are enforced and sanctioned by World Triathlon Corporation (WTC) and its franchisees, and therefore any participant infringement and/or appeal will be a matter for WTC. As noted previously, I therefore suggest you direct your queries to the WTC organisation or Ironman Canada for further comment and information."
so, the idea that you're going to get triathlon canada to take ANY interest AT ALL in anything that includes participation in an ironman race must be considered against the paragraph quoted above.
so, somebody cuts a course, and let's leave ms. miller out of it. somebody cuts a course. an american man. an australian woman. just, in general. let us assume that the course cutting was found to be deliberate. you might determine this because of multiple factors (no chip + course cut), or multiple races where this occurred, or eyewitnesses. i won't recommend what constitutes proof, just, let's assume that you're pretty confident there's proof of the intention to cut the course.
in which bucket to you throw this infraction? is intentional course cutting a single-race-specific violation, like littering? or a suspension-from-racing violation?
most competitors think it's a suspension-type violation, but most race organizations and federations do not treat it with the same ardency.
i'm not going to opine right now on where we ought to be on this; what we ought to do, as a sport. i don't know. i just know there's a gulf between what athletes probably want and what federations are prepared to do. they have no problem suspending you for a year if you use your buddies ID in a race, but how many of these other suspensions occur?
Dan Empfield
aka Slowman
so, i called triathlon canada about this. you have this athlete. do you have an interest in what's going on? either helping her be vindicated, or if she's guilty helping inoculate future competitors against the specter of course cutting?
at first, it took me one entire conversation just to convince the media liaison person that, yes, IM Canada was sanctioned by the NF. but i got a follow up email:
"please note that while the course was sanctioned by Triathlon BC, the race competition rules for the event are enforced and sanctioned by World Triathlon Corporation (WTC) and its franchisees, and therefore any participant infringement and/or appeal will be a matter for WTC. As noted previously, I therefore suggest you direct your queries to the WTC organisation or Ironman Canada for further comment and information."
so, the idea that you're going to get triathlon canada to take ANY interest AT ALL in anything that includes participation in an ironman race must be considered against the paragraph quoted above.
so, somebody cuts a course, and let's leave ms. miller out of it. somebody cuts a course. an american man. an australian woman. just, in general. let us assume that the course cutting was found to be deliberate. you might determine this because of multiple factors (no chip + course cut), or multiple races where this occurred, or eyewitnesses. i won't recommend what constitutes proof, just, let's assume that you're pretty confident there's proof of the intention to cut the course.
in which bucket to you throw this infraction? is intentional course cutting a single-race-specific violation, like littering? or a suspension-from-racing violation?
most competitors think it's a suspension-type violation, but most race organizations and federations do not treat it with the same ardency.
i'm not going to opine right now on where we ought to be on this; what we ought to do, as a sport. i don't know. i just know there's a gulf between what athletes probably want and what federations are prepared to do. they have no problem suspending you for a year if you use your buddies ID in a race, but how many of these other suspensions occur?
Dan Empfield
aka Slowman