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ZackCapets
Apr 30, 12 22:01
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Ah, yeah it looks like we were writing our posts at the same time. He answers a lot of my questions, but I have some questions also:
How could Aaron expect his results (which include riding a tandem) to be compared to those of athletes who ride solo? The aerodynamic advantage is undeniable...you have the power of 2 people riding a bike that has only marginally greater mechanical/RR losses, and WAY less than double the drag of a single person. If Aaron wanted to race in the open division he could, right? He would just have to follow ALL the same rules as the non-VI people...i.e no guides, no tandem bike, etc, right? I don't see how anyone could take issue with him racing in the same category as non-VI folks, playing by the same rules (provided he could do it in a way that was safe for him and for others)...
I think that Tanner Tennyson said it best when he posted on Aaron's facebook page that it is a VI issue so the VI people should get to decide. That said, if the issue gets brought up elsewhere and the impression is given that other people should weigh in, I don't think anyone should be surprised when non-VI people (including myself) make ignorant comments because we truly are ignorant of the VI life. Aaron wants to raise awareness...part of that is going to involve the unpleasant matter of trying to gain the support of people who have no idea what he goes through...
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He can't race in an open division because he's blind. It would be ridiculously dangerous for him to ride solo. In my opinion, this issue isn't about results or a pissing match of who is faster than whom. I don't understand why it ruffles so many feathers that Aaron is fast. He is racing in a separate division so you can have your nice age group medal.
I totally agree that VI people should get a voice and that is the point of Aaron's legal action. To your point about it being a tough road to gain awareness and fight ignorance... it always has been for him but it shouldn't have to be. Empathy is a powerful thing.
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As I mentioned, I am one of his guides. Aaron actually just sent a note a couple days ago to all of his guides thanking us and saying "this wouldn't be possible without you guys". He is an incredibly humble individual who shows sincere gratitude to the support system around him. And with regard to media or press, we aren't looking for accolades. If you're in triathlon for press, you are in the wrong sport. We do it to support Aaron. His enthusiasm, welcoming attitude, and kindness got me into the sport and guiding is my way of giving back to him what he already gave to me.
Fair enough. I am not a heavy facebook user by any stretch of the imagination, but I still take the time to congratulate my teammates (occasionally publicly), especially anyone who has gone out of their way to help me. My friends who use facebook much more than I do will at the very least tag me in a post and let others know that I was there... I am not a heavy facebook user by any stretch of the imagination, but I still take the time to congratulate my teammates (occasionally publicly), especially anyone who has gone out of their way to help me. It just seems odd to me that he doesn't so much as write a simple thank-you on his facebook page to the person who was basically glued to his hip for hours on end in each race, not to mention in training. I know you don't demand any kind of credit, but the appearance to at least some of us who are not personal friends of his is that he is actively taking all the credit without giving any where credit is due (and credit is certainly due), when he has had ample opportunity to recognize those who are supporting him so well.
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You're right... you are speaking out of ignorance. Calling into question his blindness isn't something worth addressing.
It is absolutely something worth addressing. Blindness is a spectrum, not black and white. You may choose not to address it and I respect that--it is a personal question (that Aaron also doesn't seem to have any interest in answering either)--but it is totally relevant. The fact that both you and Aaron have deferred the question only makes me wonder even more exactly how visually impaired he is (not in the sense that I'm doubting, but in the sense that I think it is totally relevant to the discussion to give some perspective on how Aaron sees the world). Over and above my personal interest, it lends perspective on exactly how big of a change the blackout goggles will be. If you want people to know how much it will suck for a partially blind person to use the goggles, tell us how he does use his vision! As I've mentioned, he seems to be able to use social media quite fluently, including reading and writing. I'm not sure what kind of adaptations he has made, but if that is the only indicator I have of his level of visual impairment then I think I'm absolutely justified in speculating...
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As I read the comments regarding this story, I am quite disappointed in the community as I feel it has crossed a line in this thread. I am a bit confused as to why the moderators haven't stepped in here. Throwing athletes under the bus for doping allegations gets immediate attention but bashing the handicapped seems to be fair game? Sharpen up.
Agreed, there have been some toes over the line. I think mostly people don't understand what they're drawing a comparison to, and hence can step over the line without realising it. It's difficult imagining the extent of complete blindness, and I have extremely limited vision in one eye.
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It’s a very difficult issue and he is trying to be an ambassador and the voice of the blind community. Those of the blind/VI community have offered solutions to the problem by either using classification systems (B1/B2/B3) as they do in many other Paralympic competitions or using an equalizing factor (similar to a handicap) which is also used in Paralympic competition. These proposals have been rejected and this lawsuit was the last resort. Obviously, he is not doing this for monetary gains but rather to solve the problem and raise awareness.
The lawsuit is raising awareness, but is all publicity good publicity? I ask this as someone who is struggling to keep my own vision and am finding that the "advocacy" isn't exactly the smoothest communication here. I'm not privy to the current process that ITU tells us is going on to address this, but wouldn't it be best to work with them? There are also other ways of leveraging publicity to bring pressure, a lawsuit isn't the only option.
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Just as an additional note: Performance isn't really the issue here but to all those that say that Aaron has an advantage, as his guide,
I have witnessed first hand the caliber of athlete he is. He basically dragged me to my pr 5k of 16:43 in a sprint.
I have seen him put out over 300 watts for an hour on a trainer. I've seen him do 6 reps in the pool of 500 scy coming in at 5:30 and leaving on the 6 min. He is very talented in each discipline.
I've got a lot of respect for anyone racing as a VI athlete and for especially for being a total animal - but I disagree with the method of advocacy. Maybe all other avenues truly had been exhausted, but call me sceptical.
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In my opinion, this issue isn't about results or a pissing match of who is faster than whom. I don't understand why it ruffles so many feathers that Aaron is fast. He is racing in a separate division so you can have your nice age group medal.
Now hold up a second. He isn't racing in my "division" (the "overall" division, because I don't race for or believe in age group medals)
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, not because I want a medal and want to marginalize him so I can have a personal victory over someone who is a better athlete (he is admittedly a slightly better athlete than me). You made it sound like he wants to or is being denied the opportunity (
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Aaron cannot race as an Age grouper and qualify for anything that age groupers qualify even if he wants to, meets a time standard or wins a race out right).
, but that isn't the case.) Aaron's the only one with something to prove, and I think that is why it ruffles feathers. You put your finger on the exact reason why it bothers people...the insinuation that he could beat any seeing athlete is a frustrating remark in the sense that he'll never have the opportunity or responsibility to back up any such claim because of his impairment, and no seeing person (who is also a decent human being) gets any satisfaction out of beating someone who is disabled if it is only for the reason that they are disabled. Since you will never be able to level the playing field between VI and non-VI (without doing some sort of stationary/ergometer race that takes any kind of navigation out of the equation) and that really isn't even the issue, I think that it should be fairly obvious that this really is an issue that VI people should decide among themselves since it levels their playing field only.
The most frustrating thing about PC competition in general is that there is no way to make it fair. Somebody always gets fucked over when you try to level the playing field, and no matter what you do, it will never be fair. I hate to say it, but giving Aaron a guide and a tandem bike doesn't make it a fair competition with people who race totally solo, in the same way that Oscar Pistorius has somewhat of an advantage in the 400m because he has springs for legs. I say the same thing about guys who have naturally low testosterone who use HRT. Deciding what is fair in a comparison of people with similar disabilities is a bit easier, but blackout goggles seem to be absolutely the wrong way to go about leveling the playing field, especially when the people who would benefit most (read: stand to lose the least) from the policy are also against it.
The easiest, and least sensitive way of solving the problem would be to say that everyone who shows up on race day has to follow the same rules, but in the process of packaging the sport into a format where people who don't conform to the 100%-normal stereotype can compete, you open the door to pissing people off when you go tailoring the rules to accept the thousands of different ways in which human genetics can go wrong. It is easy to point out the differences in people, but it is harder to establish exactly what it would take to make them the same--that is the point of a race, to allow people to prove through results that they are better than someone who did the exact same race! PC will be a margin of a margin sport until it comes up with a better way of figuring out how to equalize people, which it may never do. People race to prove they are unequal, but if your only method of objective comparison is race results and someone who competes in a sport where an equalizer is in place starts to get really successful it shouldn't be surprising when someone tries to adjust the rules to level the field again...
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I actually don't have a dog in this fight and am relatively unaffected by blackout goggles, I have Cerebral Palsy and race a mostly regular bicycle in para and open competitions. I'm also not a triathlete, just a cyclist. I'm just trying to help explain why the governing bodies want to keep the B/VIs together.
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Handicaps are probably the best solution. Nothing will be perfect. As I said before, if you think about it, the goggles are just dumb. They make a disabled person more disabled, and it is in fact more dangerous. Which all goes against the spirit of the games to begin with.
Based on the amount of vision an athlete has, they can set a time penalty getting down to zero. Now, this does have a downside, that the person crossing the line first may not be the overall winner. As an athlete (or guide in my case) you would not know if you are racing neck on neck with someone who has a penalty or not.
This system would result in the desired 1 medal. Unfortunately, from the conversations we have had with Tri Canada, it seems that the ITU has just been too lazy to come up with an alternative to this rule. Easy to say, "just wear goggles". More work to come up with time penalities.
In this case, Aaron stands to be put at more of a disadvantage. He will most definetely get the highest penalty as his sight will be better than most of his competitors. The athlete I guide is arguably the second fastest visually impaired triathlete next to Aaron. His vision is much worse than Aaron's and functionally not that much better than being fully blind with regards to racing. Aaron is so fast, that we don't stand a chance of catching him regardless of the changes in rules.
This whole thing has little to do with the actual technicalities of the rule, but more with the way it has been approached, and how the athletes have been treated with regards to the governing bodies.
We have faced similar issues in Canada. Our concerns are falling on deaf ears. The governing bodies are too concerned with getting the Olympic Committees agreement on having triathlon in the ParaOlympics and not the actual concerns of the athletes.
Now, I hear that there may be an alternative solution in the works. We would most likely be OK with any alternative to these goggles. The athletes (including Aaron) understand that there needs to be some sort of accomodation to allow them to race in one category, but this is not the one they should adopt.
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Handicaps are probably the best solution. Nothing will be perfect. As I said before, if you think about it, the goggles are just dumb. They make a disabled person more disabled, and it is in fact more dangerous. Which all goes against the spirit of the games to begin with.
Based on the amount of vision an athlete has, they can set a time penalty getting down to zero. Now, this does have a downside, that the person crossing the line first may not be the overall winner. As an athlete (or guide in my case) you would not know if you are racing neck on neck with someone who has a penalty or not.
This system would result in the desired 1 medal. Unfortunately, from the conversations we have had with Tri Canada, it seems that the ITU has just been too lazy to come up with an alternative to this rule. Easy to say, "just wear goggles". More work to come up with time penalities.
In this case, Aaron stands to be put at more of a disadvantage. He will most definetely get the highest penalty as his sight will be better than most of his competitors. The athlete I guide is arguably the second fastest visually impaired triathlete next to Aaron. His vision is much worse than Aaron's and functionally not that much better than being fully blind with regards to racing. Aaron is so fast, that we don't stand a chance of catching him regardless of the changes in rules.
This whole thing has little to do with the actual technicalities of the rule, but more with the way it has been approached, and how the athletes have been treated with regards to the governing bodies.
We have faced similar issues in Canada. Our concerns are falling on deaf ears. The governing bodies are too concerned with getting the Olympic Committees agreement on having triathlon in the ParaOlympics and not the actual concerns of the athletes.
Now, I hear that there may be an alternative solution in the works. We would most likely be OK with any alternative to these goggles. The athletes (including Aaron) understand that there needs to be some sort of accomodation to allow them to race in one category, but this is not the one they should adopt.
I am just having a hard time believing that the 100% had zero input from the community of blind folks. I have a hard time believing that 100% of the blind folks do not support the googles. Maybe I have worked with the wrong folks at ITU, WTC and USAT, but in my years of dealing with them on rules, I might not agree with everything they do, but I sure have seen them take everyone's inputs and come up with the best compromise solution possible.
So the law suit to me implies that it is trying to say 100% of the blind racers are telling the organizations that they have ignored 100% of their inputs. I just have a hard time believing this but maybe I am just not understanding correctly.
Any sport will NEVER be 100% a level playing field. Since each person has different genetics, it is impossible to be level. So many say this sport is about and individual, which is why they do not like draft legal races.
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After seeing the rule changes in 2010 I do not think they asked any athlete it seemed like they were really focused on not having different class's and to truly have the first person across the line be the winner.
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I know for the handcyclists they said we all had to ride a reclined bike great accept I bought a kneeler the year before that I cannot use so there goes $7000.00, also just to bitch my classification also included double amps so they have reduced drag in the water, weight 40-50lbs less(missing limbs), and have full core (makes a huge difference pushing the racing chair) I don't see them having to have weights added to their bikes and chairs to make it more fair, I guess thats would be like blackout googles.
Oh and since you mentioned WTC they are not fair with world championship qulifying (IM and 70.3) they only allow 4 males and 2 females at each race and to qualify you have to race at one of only 2 events in the world. (A world class Para-Triathlete became the first person to finish IMC in 29years a Kona qualifying event and they would not let him in)
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So he gets special treatment - all while there are other FULLY blind people out there on a tether and a tandem and what ever to their co-racer? Bullshit. That gives him a distinct advantage over the other people in his PC category. Or, he can race on his own - no helper ever. Not in the swim, not on the bike, not on the run. And I will look it up - I am betting his bike is a tandem - so a "throw down" would not be too awful hard on the bike (for those of you who have ever ridden a TT on a tandem will know what I mean.).
He is on a tether and a tandem as well. He sees blurs of objects and that is it. At the pace he runs without a guide we would trip at every change in elevation and miss every turn sign.
I agree as well with another poster. Fully blind are acclimated and train fully blind. He is not acclimated to that and being made fully blind is an issue.
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In the same way that Oscar Pistorius has somewhat of an advantage in the 400m because he has springs for legs.
This (the Olympic situation, not your post) is the most ridiculous thing I have heard of for ages. You can't go around artificially enabling people and putting them in a race that was initially devised to see who is most naturally able in that area. It's simply ridiculous.
If you don't have legs. You can't run. You and 'some help' can, but 'just you' can't. Totally sucks but there you go. I don't have the physical capabilities to win Ironman Kona but that doesn't mean I can just keep artificially adding to myself until I can. My wife is very short, she is crap at basketball. Stilts anyone? Not her fault she's short. Where does it end? She is rubbish at high jump too so maybe she can use the previously mentioned Oscar's spring to assist there too.
Sports is usually an indication of what you are physically capable of in that particular sport. Either play on a level playing field by their rules or jump in with the next group of level playing field.
I do totally understand that his predicament means he is at a huge disadvantage in a normal race and at a huge advantage in a 'Blind' race. So, Aaron, unfortunately your situation is such that there is no perfect group for you. You just can't just adjust an existing group until such point that it reaches your physical preference. The question is, is that what you really want? It's not your fault or anyone elses. ITU could make a division to suit you, but you might be the only guy in it.
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Fully blind are acclimated and train fully blind. He is not acclimated to that and being made fully blind is an issue.
My apologies if this has been addressed, but if the race requires the goggles, why not train with the goggles?
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Fully blind are acclimated and train fully blind. He is not acclimated to that and being made fully blind is an issue.
My apologies if this has been addressed, but if the race requires the goggles, why not train with the goggles?
You, my friend, are far too logical for this discussion.
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Booo fucking hoo....Sorry champ, the first game you lost was the game of genetics. Life goes on.
Lost? At the game of genetics? I dont think so ! R10C you do a 4:32 HIM? I'm guessing it's more likely that they used to take your lunch money. Go kick a puppy, I'm sure you'll feel better about yourself after that too Champ.
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A few reasons I can think of. Training should be enjoyable. Aarons sight is very limited and its a progressive disease. What sight he has he should be able to enjoy for as long as possibe. 2nd what sightg he has does help him avoid obstacles, even with guides, and he trains on some open roads so why make it less safe? Serious if you think thats a reasonable suggestion, run on a treadmill for a while with your vision disabled. My guess is if hge loses the suit he'll do just that, though. I don't see suing to keep a rule from changing as unreasonable.
I've ridden tandems with quite a few blind stokers, ranging from partil blindness to complete, including Aaron a few times. Its a tragic thing to happen, why in the world make it worse. You'll notice that Aaron has messages of support from plenty of fellow competitiors. I haven't seen any dissentors that weren't sighted.
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In the same way that Oscar Pistorius has somewhat of an advantage in the 400m because he has springs for legs.
This (the Olympic situation, not your post) is the most ridiculous thing I have heard of for ages. You can't go around artificially enabling people and putting them in a race that was initially devised to see who is most naturally able in that area. It's simply ridiculous.
If you don't have legs. You can't run. You and 'some help' can, but 'just you' can't. Totally sucks but there you go. I don't have the physical capabilities to win Ironman Kona but that doesn't mean I can just keep artificially adding to myself until I can. My wife is very short, she is crap at basketball. Stilts anyone? Not her fault she's short. Where does it end? She is rubbish at high jump too so maybe she can use the previously mentioned Oscar's spring to assist there too.
Sports is usually an indication of what you are physically capable of in that particular sport. Either play on a level playing field by their rules or jump in with the next group of level playing field.
I do totally understand that his predicament means he is at a huge disadvantage in a normal race and at a huge advantage in a 'Blind' race. So, Aaron, unfortunately your situation is such that there is no perfect group for you. You just can't just adjust an existing group until such point that it reaches your physical preference. The question is, is that what you really want? It's not your fault or anyone elses. ITU could make a division to suit you, but you might be the only guy in it.
Regards James - Regular Winner of the '39 and a 1/2 year old, over 6ft and over 180lb person that's only been competing three years, struggled with a few injuries in the first year but getting the hang of things a bit more now' Category.
Stilts will not help your wife. But why shouldn't Oscar be able to run in the Olympics? If he is the fastest over 400m under human power, why exclude him? Maybe the IAAF should worry about their massive drug problem instead of playing a shell game with OP.
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Here in America we have freedom, we don't force people to wear black out glasses that are dehumanizing and make you look silly. I am on his side on this one.
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cyclops wrote:
Here in America we have freedom, we don't force people to wear black out glasses that make you look retarded. I am on his side on this one.
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cyclops wrote:
Here in America we have freedom, we don't force people to wear black out glasses that make you look retarded. I am on his side on this one.
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I think the dude should just follow the rules laid down by whichever sporting body that controls the event he signed up to compete in.Maybe he could just black out a pair of Oakleys and be one of their new sponsored athletes..
Sucking it up and following the rules is one reason I have a lot of respect for swim-crank-push on this forum..He gave it his best shot to have some rules changed for him at IMC last year but once all the avenues of appeal were closed and he had no choice, he still went out and raced "fair and square" to the rules laid down.He is still fighting the good fight to have things changed but accepted his fate that day with grace and dignity.
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What? Follow the rules? You mean they do not have to cater especially to me? Damnit!
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What? Follow the rules? You mean they do not have to cater especially to me? Damnit!
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This is not complex. Here's the reality.
There are only two (2) races in the U.S. where any visually impaired athlete is required to wear the "blackout" glasses.
1. Any sanctioned sprint race where one chooses to qualify for Nationals.
2. USAT Paratriathlon Nationals
That's it. None of the other 3500+ sanctioned USAT races and none of the IM/70.3 races require the glasses.
Not. One
.
Furthermore, in the two years since this rule was put in place, both ITU World Championships have been won by partially sighted athletes wearing the glasses:
-2011 World Champion, Rodrigo Feola (BRA) "has visual impairment known as "pale optic nerve" or low vision (B3), compromising his visual field by 70% in both eyes."
-2010 World Champion, Iain Dawson (GBR) "has a fairly rare genetic eye condition called X-Linked Retinoschichis...less than 10% sight and some peripheral sight loss."
-Mr. Scheidies himself won last year's U.S. Paratriathlon Nationals by more than an hour over his nearest blind competitor. He was wearing the glasses.
Regarding separating totally and partially blind athletes: This is a numbers game and the numbers of all visually impaired athletes are simply not there. At the Paratriathlon World Championships from '04-'09 (
Before the "blackout rule"
) there were
only
twelve (12) different athletes who competed at least once from
only
five (5) countries worldwide. And while there have been no blackout glasses required at
any
race going all the way back to 1996, the worldwide numbers had not grown but had in fact remained disappointingly low. Sadly, the USA numbers are even lower:
U.S. visually impaired ITU World Championship participation (2004-2009)
2009: 1 Male / 1 Female - 2 Total
2008: 0 Male / 0 Female - 0 Total
2007: 0 Male / 2 Female - 2 Total
2006: 2 Male / 1 Female - 3 Total
2005: 0 Male / 1 Female - 1 Total
2004: 0 Male / 0 Female - 0 Total
Three (3) appearances in six (6) years by two (2) different male U.S. athletes.
A
s you can see, the numbers could scarcely get any lower. It's obvious that this rule was not meant as a deterrent but as a field leveler. In fact, it has served to encourage more totally blind athletes to participate as they now feel they have a real fighting chance at a championship. Break up the athletes into partially and totally blind classes? Everyone would be an instant World Champion...Not exactly a "competition".
If Mr. Scheidies goal is fairness, why in the over ten years he has competed against totally blind athletes did he not propose any remedies or even raise the issue? When he was easily beating every totally blind athlete over and over again, why did he not speak up for them? To say the least, Mr. Scheidies seems to possess a rather curious sense of "fairness".
Record10Carbon
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Thank you for a well written reply to the thread. I think you have proven what a few of us thought from the on-set.
Now, will you please do some research on clergy racing?
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