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rruff

Apr 30, 12 22:43

Post #26 of 31 (769 views)
Re: Avoiding crashes? (RR) [Livetotri] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

We move up a bit, I’m second wheel now, sprint forming behind me.

500 meters to go, lead rider gets winded, pull off. I figure it’s now or never, I’m sitting in the wind.

This would have been a good time to sit up, turn around, and see who was coming up... try to slip in a few back.


I last 200 meters or so, by my estimation. Then I lose exhaustion. I see a rider approaching on my left shoulder. A single rider. I assume he’s sprinting. I can’t remember though.

As he overtakes me, I slip into his draft – or I try to. Paul materializes out of nowhere…and down we both go. Horrible scratching and scraping and screeching and mangled bodies and broken bikes…Paul broke his finger. Joe elbow and I received some cleaning up for our road rash. My calf seized up and my butt’s sore, otherwise, I’m alright. Harry broke a spoke in his Zipps. I broke 2 spokes and my front shifter.

You were in the front... too early in the sprint... exhausted, delirious... you swerved when someone passed you... and caused a lot of carnage. It sounds like you know what not to do.

BTW... all that senseless work earlier in the race... it's a total waste. Never pull... ever unless you are in a break that you fully expect to be successful. For gawd's sake don't pull the pack around because you feel good, or work your butt off to dangle off the front. Ideally you want to arrive at the end of the race just barely warmed up. Then if you are strong, you have a lot of options.


davidalone

May 2, 12 14:24

Post #27 of 31 (654 views)
Re: Avoiding crashes? (RR) [Livetotri] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

agree with what most have said here. unless you're going for the team prize and every second counts, or you are in the first 15-20 riders coming to the line, don't get involved. even in pro races, there are usually only about 5-10 guys who actually have a shot of getting something out of the sprint- be it points or the win. if you're overcooked, let it be, you're done. there will be other races. unless you're mark cavendish, theres no way you're going to latch onto a passing riders wheel and overtake him. know your capabilities.

if the sprint hasn't started yet, but someone is starting a lead out- thats fine. fighting for position in a lead out is part and parcel of sprinting, and if done properly isn't very dangerous. your hands should always be in the drosp at this time- minimising the chances of hooking bars and allowing shoulder bumps and elbow knocks that wont cause crashes.

as for other tactics- if you're riding alone, never ever take a pull (or at least, minimise your pulls to keep on the good side of the peloton) unless you're in a breakaway which has a good chance of staying away. not realising you were alone was probably a mistake, and made even worse when you decided to go away alone. if it were the penultimate lap? maybe. but on the 4th lap? too soon.

going to the back of the field to 'rally the troops' was also probably not a smart idea. why should these guys listen to you? how much energy did it cost you to lose that hard earned postion at the front, go back, and fight your way up again? position position position. always try to stay in the first 1/3 of the peloton, at least, about ten riders back is where I like to hang.

if you do start to race with a team, then of course most of these lone ranger tactics go out the window. as a domestique ( I'm not really good at any real discipline, jsut a decent all rounder) . you might be called upon to attack , take pulls, bridge gaps, disrupt pulls, break leadouts, all when it does'nt make sense to your own chances of victory. then, yes, you'll have to take pulls. you'll have to attack the break, or attempt to form a break. you'll have to destroy yourself for the sake of your team- but heck- it's great fun doing so, and if your team manages to win because of that, you can be proud of a good ride. I find even though I'm not a fantastic rider, and I havent won or podiumed, my competitors and team mates respect the fact that I'm willing to bury myself for my team and make everyone hurt. there is a certain amount of glory in that, too.


echappist

May 2, 12 14:53

Post #28 of 31 (635 views)
Re: Avoiding crashes? (RR) [davidalone] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

davidalone wrote:
if you do start to race with a team, then of course most of these lone ranger tactics go out the window. as a domestique ( I'm not really good at any real discipline, jsut a decent all rounder) . you might be called upon to attack , take pulls, bridge gaps, disrupt pulls, break leadouts, all when it does'nt make sense to your own chances of victory. then, yes, you'll have to take pulls. you'll have to attack the break, or attempt to form a break. you'll have to destroy yourself for the sake of your team- but heck- it's great fun doing so, and if your team manages to win because of that, you can be proud of a good ride. I find even though I'm not a fantastic rider, and I havent won or podiumed, my competitors and team mates respect the fact that I'm willing to bury myself for my team and make everyone hurt. there is a certain amount of glory in that, too.

it's what differentiate cycling from most other endurance sports, and it's possibly the only endurance sport in which team work matters considerably.


trackie clm

May 2, 12 17:05

Post #29 of 31 (585 views)
Re: Avoiding crashes? (RR) [davidalone] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Quote:
I find even though I'm not a fantastic rider, and I havent won or podiumed, my competitors and team mates respect the fact that I'm willing to bury myself for my team and make everyone hurt. there is a certain amount of glory in that, too.

You said it perfectly. I'd also add, respect for being known as a good, solid wheel that everyone wants.

Very different mentality than triathlon.

clm
Nashville, TN
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mopdahl

May 2, 12 19:10

Post #30 of 31 (533 views)
Re: Avoiding crashes? (RR) [Livetotri] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Don't sprint in the Cat Vs. You gain nothing, except a bit of experience.
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mopdahl

May 2, 12 19:11

Post #31 of 31 (529 views)
Re: Avoiding crashes? (RR) [Livetotri] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

And it looks like your bike is too small for you as well.
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“There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.” John Rogers

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