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synthetic
Apr 25, 12 9:16
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Re: Is this a healthy breakfast [DarkSpeedWorks]
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Looks good, but skip the whey. For a number of reasons, it is not a good source of quality protein. Plus, there's
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It seems whey was cherry picked , but most processed foods with have some unwanted additives - shoot you dont wash your veggies then you run a risk. Recently dr Oz has been on a storm against juice industries for having arsenic.
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Apr 25, 12 16:53
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Re: Is this a healthy breakfast [softrider]
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If you want to lose weight don't worry whether it's healthy or not (health is an added bonus) worry about calorie consumption. It's a very simple formula. Burn more calories than you eat. If your hungry drink something first then see if your still hungry. Energy based foods in morning and lunch. Low calorie lean protein at night.
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Apr 25, 12 16:57
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Re: Is this a healthy breakfast [LTBlowUp]
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This smoothie has roughly 60g of protein. Its questionable that you are even digesting all of that.
He's not... your body can only digest up to 30g at a time.
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Apr 25, 12 17:24
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Re: Is this a healthy breakfast [jw67]
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I second or third the not using Whey, But try adding in some leafy greens, good nutrients carbs and protein. Your body likes plant based protein better so use rice, pea or hemp. Look out for processed isolates, they dont absorb well. If its working for you, good on ya!
Vegetable proteins are some of the worst absorbing (and more expensive) proteins that you can buy in supplement form. They have a much lower bioavailability than whey protein. Other good alternatives to whey are casein and egg protein.
I am not saying that supplemental forms of protein are better than real food. That is not the case. You do not receive any other macro or micro nutrients in most whey protein powders.
That particular study that was posted was done on certain brands of proteins which showed some had high levels of heavy metals. Like most studies, the information was not accurate due to the fact of the varying serving sizes between the different brands. There were some that were extremely high in comparison to the serving sizes that were given (Muscle Milk and Myoplex).
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Apr 25, 12 18:25
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Re: Is this a healthy breakfast [captcandybars]
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I'm sorry. I'm dismissing anything that "captcandybars" has to say...
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Apr 25, 12 18:32
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I'm sorry. I'm dismissing anything that "captcandybars" has to say...
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softrider
Apr 25, 12 19:47
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Re: Is this a healthy breakfast [travisml]
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Trav,
Thanks for the grammatical thumbs up. It drives me nuts when people use "loose" in place of "lose".
I was not trying to be a cereal "hater", I am just trying to switch it up. In addition, I have better portion control when making a smoothie in a blender. I find sometimes when I eat cereal I keep refilling the bowl which is not the cereal's fault but more a issue with my discipline.
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synthetic
Apr 25, 12 20:37
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Re: Is this a healthy breakfast [captcandybars]
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jw67 wrote:
I second or third the not using Whey, But try adding in some leafy greens, good nutrients carbs and protein. Your body likes plant based protein better so use rice, pea or hemp. Look out for processed isolates, they dont absorb well. If its working for you, good on ya!
Vegetable proteins are some of the worst absorbing (and more expensive) proteins that you can buy in supplement form. They have a much lower bioavailability than whey protein. Other good alternatives to whey are casein and egg protein.
I am not saying that supplemental forms of protein are better than real food. That is not the case. You do not receive any other macro or micro nutrients in most whey protein powders.
That particular study that was posted was done on certain brands of proteins which showed some had high levels of heavy metals. Like most studies, the information was not accurate due to the fact of the varying serving sizes between the different brands. There were some that were extremely high in comparison to the serving sizes that were given (Muscle Milk and Myoplex).
trueprotein.com sells rice/pea protein for half the price of whey. It becomes more bioavailable when you combine proteins to make a complete profile, such as combining legumes with grain
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Apr 26, 12 0:26
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Re: Is this a healthy breakfast [synthetic]
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synthetic wrote:
captcandybars wrote:
jw67 wrote:
I second or third the not using Whey, But try adding in some leafy greens, good nutrients carbs and protein. Your body likes plant based protein better so use rice, pea or hemp. Look out for processed isolates, they dont absorb well. If its working for you, good on ya!
Vegetable proteins are some of the worst absorbing (and more expensive) proteins that you can buy in supplement form. They have a much lower bioavailability than whey protein. Other good alternatives to whey are casein and egg protein.
I am not saying that supplemental forms of protein are better than real food. That is not the case. You do not receive any other macro or micro nutrients in most whey protein powders.
That particular study that was posted was done on certain brands of proteins which showed some had high levels of heavy metals. Like most studies, the information was not accurate due to the fact of the varying serving sizes between the different brands. There were some that were extremely high in comparison to the serving sizes that were given (Muscle Milk and Myoplex).
trueprotein.com sells rice/pea protein for half the price of whey. It becomes more bioavailable
when you combine proteins to make a complete profile, such as combining legumes with grain
You're thinking of complete/incomplete protein. Whey is a complete protein, and almost all supplemental forms of proteins are complete including pea and hemp. Bioavailability refers to how well your body absorbs it. Whey, egg, casein protein have almost twice the bioavailability of vegetable based protein supplements.
Oh and trueprotein.com is awesome.
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Apr 26, 12 5:46
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Re: Is this a healthy breakfast [cannastar]
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If you want to lose weight don't worry whether it's healthy or not (health is an added bonus) worry about calorie consumption. It's a very simple formula. Burn more calories than you eat. If your hungry drink something first then see if your still hungry. Energy based foods in morning and lunch. Low calorie lean protein at night.
beg to differ on this...yes, the overall amt of calories consumed is important but the QUALITY of those calories are of equal importance.
100 calories of those packaged "100 calorie snack packs"
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100 calories of roasted sweet potato
eating real food vs. processed foods have an impact on hormones in the body which directly regulate fat/weight loss.
You are far better off sticking with real food.
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Apr 26, 12 6:20
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Re: Is this a healthy breakfast [JenniferLeah
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Completely agree. I find when am in heavy training my body craves healthy nutritious foods, hence I don't think too much about what I eat. But defiantly you want to be getting quality calories in.
My point is that people in search for losing weight might switch to healthier foods but in actual fact be ingesting more calories.
I remember Id go to a good friends house after school and the family would much through a mountain of fruit. Healthy yes. But full of sugar. Wondered why they weren't skinny.
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Apr 26, 12 7:18
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Along with the comment about the high calorie count of the whey protein, I'd say 200 calories for 2 cups of almond milk sounds high. I use almond milk and / or coconut milk that are unsweetened and they run 45 - 60 calories a cup. Either you're over counting or you are using stuff with added sweeteners. Eliminating the added sweeteners would be a very good idea.
Nobody has mentioned fat - well, one person implied low fat is good in recommending something like meuslix. I'm going to go in the opposite direction and say that this probably doesn't have enough fat. I think (hope) that we're all past the "fat makes you fat" misunderstanding of macronutrients. A balance of carbohydrates from real food (e.g. the blueberries and mango you have in there, maybe add something like frozen spinach), protein (contrary to the poster with the negative comments on whey, there's a lot of info showing it to be one of the most bioavailable proteins ... but you could also just toss in a couple eggs instead), AND fat is going to be your best option for a healthy breakfast that will keep you satiated. Eliminate most of the fat if it's more a recovery beverage since that would really slow absorption.
How would one add fat to a smoothie? Nuts, whole milk yogurt, almond milk / coconut milk with fat, avocado, added coconut oil, eggs, etc.
softrider
Apr 26, 12 7:58
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Re: Is this a healthy breakfast? [SqueakyPieces]
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Hello Mr. Squeakypieces,
You are correct,I looked at my almond milk label this morning and I overestimated the calories. It's 60 calories power cup and I use about 1.5 cups. About 100 calorie. So my smoothie is probably 600 cal.
I have been listening to suggestions and do not drink the whole mix in one sitting but save half for late morning. Also I am looking to as a green vegetable to the mix. Not sure what.
The whey protein choice is causing a lot of debateand I'm but sure if I am going to switch it out yet. I duds cut back the dosage to 150 cal.
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Apr 26, 12 8:48
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Re: Is this a healthy breakfast [jw67]
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jw67 wrote:
I second or third the not using Whey, But try adding in some leafy greens, good nutrients carbs and protein. Your body likes plant based protein better so use rice, pea or hemp. Look out for processed isolates, they dont absorb well. If its working for you, good on ya!
This is on the mark for me... In recent seasons, I have been frustrated with getting back into training with no improvement in body composition. My work and family life only allows limited training so I took a hard look at my diet. One of the best choices I made was replacing breakfast with a "high quality" smoothie. Hemp hearts and ground flax seed are two key ingredients along with what whatever fresh fruit I can get my hands on. Water and Unsweetened Almond milk as the liquid and it's been pretty much a pound a week in the new year (185 this week down from 206... and still dropping).
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Apr 26, 12 8:57
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Good job on the weight loss! Keep it up and reduce your dinner size and you will reach your goal soon
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Apr 26, 12 14:02
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Any support for the "your body likes plant based protein better" comment? Sure, some people bloat but BV and PDCAAS of whey are higher than those of vegetable proteins.
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/...ement/#axzz1tBLxttA8
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/...ysate/#axzz1tBLxttA8
You may or may not "like" Mark Sisson, but there are references to reliable resources there. I've yet to see anything convincing that whey is not the gold standard.
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Apr 26, 12 14:52
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Re: Is this a healthy breakfast [jw67]
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Good job on the weight loss! Keep it up and reduce your dinner size and you will reach your goal soon
Good point... I should have elaborated that it wasn't as simple as just switching breakfast to a smoothie. I have subscribed to the "small plate" portion size around dinner. The other thing I do is make my lunches at home... Most days it's a sandwich with very nutty and seedy bread with lean protein from the dinner from the night before (ie. if i'm grilling chicken breasts, i make a little extra for sandwich the next day).
I could probably do even better than a sandwich (like a salad), but I make it with bread that's high in fiber and protein... So it gets me through until dinner without being overly tempted by the vending machine!
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Apr 26, 12 15:31
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As was said previously, breakfast is NOT the meal to cut back on, especially if you're trying to lose weight. It's called "break-fast" for a reason... you've been fasting through the night and this is the most critical time to fill up on quality calories. A complete breakfast (i.e. protein, carbs & fat) will keep you satisfied longer so you don't fall off track at later meals. I'd suggest switching out your protein powder for real food... egg whites/1 yolk and PLEASE, add some complex carbs! All that fruit and milk provide are simple sugar carbs which your body burns through quickly (i.e. you're hungry again in 1.5-2 hours). What you don't burn off in the 1-2 hours following your sugar binge will turn into FAT. Complex carbs are essential when you're training hard... they provide long last energy. So have some old fashioned oatmeal (1/2 to 3/4 cups dry) and maybe a slice of wheat toast. Adding some natural peanut or almond butter to that toast will hit your healthy fats and help keep you fuller longer.
Cut back on your lunch and dinner calories. But not breakfast.
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