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mojozenmaster
Apr 16, 12 18:03
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The Author (for obvious reasons) claims her book is key in helping to take down obama.
It is just out today and I am interested to know how it will chart between today and November. I'd also like a way to correlate book sales to polls, approval ratings and the depth of coverage in the media on the Fast and Furious scandal in that timeframe.
Any way to measure these things?
http://michellemalkin.com/...-shameless-cover-up/
"I unravel a tangled web connecting President Obama, Eric Holder, Janet Napolitano and a number of advisors and political appointees behind Fast and Furious. These officials have deep loyalties to each other and their anti-Second Amendment ideology dating as far back as the Clinton Administration. In fact, many key Fast and Furious players have deep ties to Chicago and helped craft the 1994 Clinton assault weapons ban legislation.
If the majority of American people knew Fast and Furious like they know Solyndra or the GSA scandal, they would be outraged. Despite very few exceptions, the media has been complicit in the cover-up of Obama’s bloodiest scandal by ignoring and refusing to report about it. Why? To protect the President. This scandal, one that has left hundreds of bodies in its wake, would be deadly to the administration. This is the scandal that will bring President Obama down in November, so long as the American people know its details."
**All of these words finding themselves together were greatly astonished and delighted for assuredly, they had never met before**
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chainpin
Apr 16, 12 19:52
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Sigh...that don't won't hunt.
There is a complete media blackout on the topic.
Nobody seems to give a rats ass.
It's pretty fucking sad really.
"I really wish you would post more often. You always have some good stuff to say. I copied it below just in case someone missed it." BarryP to Chainpin on 10/21/06
big kahuna
Apr 16, 12 19:53
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mojozenmaster wrote:
The Author (for obvious reasons) claims her book is key in helping to take down obama.
It is just out today and I am interested to know how it will chart between today and November. I'd also like a way to correlate book sales to polls, approval ratings and the depth of coverage in the media on the Fast and Furious scandal in that timeframe.
Any way to measure these things?
http://michellemalkin.com/...-shameless-cover-up/
"I unravel a tangled web connecting President Obama, Eric Holder, Janet Napolitano and a number of advisors and political appointees behind Fast and Furious. These officials have deep loyalties to each other and their anti-Second Amendment ideology dating as far back as the Clinton Administration. In fact, many key Fast and Furious players have deep ties to Chicago and helped craft the 1994 Clinton assault weapons ban legislation.
If the majority of American people knew Fast and Furious like they know Solyndra or the GSA scandal, they would be outraged. Despite very few exceptions, the media has been complicit in the cover-up of Obama’s bloodiest scandal by ignoring and refusing to report about it. Why? To protect the President. This scandal, one that has left hundreds of bodies in its wake, would be deadly to the administration. This is the scandal that will bring President Obama down in November, so long as the American people know its details."
I had an advance copy of the book. Pavlich really knows what she's talking about, not that the lamestream media will give it any breathing room.
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mojozenmaster
Apr 16, 12 20:13
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There is a complete media blackout on the topic.
This is why I asked about how the book charts.
You know that a book can chart very low and gain momentum on a topic that is of great national importance.
The black-out proves theories you and I have long argued for here, about a silent majority of Americans who think Obama sucks and will vote that way.
Therefore Obama's only chance is voter fraud and intimidation.
The Chicago Way.
But he will not get away with it this time around. He will be vetted in the Lavender Room and other less important places.
**All of these words finding themselves together were greatly astonished and delighted for assuredly, they had never met before**
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Apr 16, 12 21:04
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Indeed, and not to mention she is smoking ass hot.
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mojozenmaster
Apr 16, 12 21:37
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From Amazon:
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A horrifying look at one of the bloodiest scandals in the history of the American presidency, Fast and Furious is this season's sensational, mustread book that will rock America—and the Obama administration—to its core.
200 and rising. That's the death tally for the Obama administration's "Operation Fast & Furious." The program was supposedly designed to "win the drug war" by deliberately walking more than 2,000 guns across the border to Mexico. But instead of catching drug lords, Fast & Furious armed the very king pins it was supposed to trap. Despite the protests of gun store owners and ATF whistleblowers, federal agents deliberately violated federal law—and common sense—and wound up placing American weapons into the hands of Mexico's most violent criminals. And when the guns started showing up at crime scenes—including the murder scene of a U.S. border patrol agent—the coverup began.
**All of these words finding themselves together were greatly astonished and delighted for assuredly, they had never met before**
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Apr 16, 12 22:02
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Yahey, Klehner, Mopdahl: your thoughts on this matter?
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big kahuna
Apr 16, 12 22:44
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mojozenmaster wrote:
Yahey, Klehner, Mopdahl: your thoughts on this matter?
Fuhgeddaboudit, dude. Those three have been doing their best to ignore the stench coming off this rotted corpse of a presidential administration since practically the day after the 2009 inauguration. ;-)
mojozenmaster
Apr 16, 12 23:19
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Of all Right Wing Haters here I would like to be known as the sensitive one among us
but this is not to suggest that "The Wrath of Mojo" can be taken lightly
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Rodred
Apr 17, 12 0:59
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chainpin wrote:
Sigh...that don't won't hunt.
There is a complete media blackout on the topic.
Nobody seems to give a rats ass.
It's pretty fucking sad really.
You could probably find it in a book store buried in the back behind some old copies of some unknown cookbook. Thats if it makes it out of storage. Very sad.
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Apr 17, 12 4:37
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mojozenmaster wrote:
From Amazon:
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A horrifying look at one of the bloodiest scandals in the history of the American presidency, Fast and Furious is this season's sensational, mustread book that will rock America—and the Obama administration—to its core.
200 and rising. That's the death tally for the Obama administration's "Operation Fast & Furious." The program was supposedly designed to "win the drug war" by deliberately walking more than 2,000 guns across the border to Mexico. But instead of catching drug lords, Fast & Furious armed the very king pins it was supposed to trap. Despite the protests of gun store owners and ATF whistleblowers, federal agents deliberately violated federal law—and common sense—and wound up placing American weapons into the hands of Mexico's most violent criminals. And when the guns started showing up at crime scenes—including the murder scene of a U.S. border patrol agent—the coverup began.
Excuse me but wasn't "Gunwalking" started under the Bush Administration?
The first known ATF "gunwalking" operation to Mexican drug cartels, named Operation Wide Receiver, began in early 2006 and ran into late 2007
. Licensed dealer Mike Detty informed the ATF of a suspicious gun purchase that took place in February 2006 in
Tucson, Arizona
. In March he was hired as a confidential informant working with the ATF's Tucson office, part of their Phoenix, Arizona field division.
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With the use of surveillance equipment, ATF agents monitored additional sales by Detty to straw purchasers. With assurance from ATF "that Mexican officials would be conducting surveillance or interdictions when guns got to the other side of the border",
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Detty would sell a total of about 450 guns during the operation.
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These included
AR-15s
,
AK-47s
and Colt .38s. The vast majority of the guns were eventually lost as they moved into Mexico.
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Wonder how many people those guns killed?
chainpin
Apr 17, 12 4:37
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Yep, probably in the back, in violation of publishing contracts, right next to Michael Savages new book Trickle Down Tyranny.
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blueraider_mike
Apr 17, 12 5:08
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Aside from the media not wanting to cover, its just too complicated for most moderates and liberals to follow - you actually have to think about the Why? You have to consider the unintended consequences. You have to see the forest through the trees. Simply it requires an educated populace...
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Apr 17, 12 6:50
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A rising star.
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Apr 17, 12 6:55
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Pavlich is hot to.
iron_mike
Apr 17, 12 7:32
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xtremrun wrote:
mojozenmaster wrote:
From Amazon:
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A horrifying look at one of the bloodiest scandals in the history of the American presidency, Fast and Furious is this season's sensational, mustread book that will rock America—and the Obama administration—to its core.
200 and rising. That's the death tally for the Obama administration's "Operation Fast & Furious." The program was supposedly designed to "win the drug war" by deliberately walking more than 2,000 guns across the border to Mexico. But instead of catching drug lords, Fast & Furious armed the very king pins it was supposed to trap. Despite the protests of gun store owners and ATF whistleblowers, federal agents deliberately violated federal law—and common sense—and wound up placing American weapons into the hands of Mexico's most violent criminals. And when the guns started showing up at crime scenes—including the murder scene of a U.S. border patrol agent—the coverup began.
Excuse me but wasn't "Gunwalking" started under the Bush Administration?
The first known ATF "gunwalking" operation to Mexican drug cartels, named Operation Wide Receiver, began in early 2006 and ran into late 2007
. Licensed dealer Mike Detty informed the ATF of a suspicious gun purchase that took place in February 2006 in
Tucson, Arizona
. In March he was hired as a confidential informant working with the ATF's Tucson office, part of their Phoenix, Arizona field division.
[23]
With the use of surveillance equipment, ATF agents monitored additional sales by Detty to straw purchasers. With assurance from ATF "that Mexican officials would be conducting surveillance or interdictions when guns got to the other side of the border",
[24]
Detty would sell a total of about 450 guns during the operation.
[22]
These included
AR-15s
,
AK-47s
and Colt .38s. The vast majority of the guns were eventually lost as they moved into Mexico.
[7]
[23]
[25]
Wonder how many people those guns killed?
umm, this is rather interesting. anyone more familiar care to comment?
second, fill me in more on your views about the political fallout of fast and furious: without trying to sound callous toward those who were killed, it does seem like a small-ish deal. i mean in terms of weapons moved and lives lost, the figures seem relatively small to me. i can see that people feel like it's a cover-up, but then wouldn't all such ops be classified anyway? i mean, it's not like we get the details about any other FBI/NSA/CIA ops.
anyway, just trying to decide where you guys think the biggest impact would be for obama and/or what angles of this story would be most damning for his administration.
-mike
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Rodred
Apr 17, 12 7:49
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YIKES... where do I sign up?
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Vin Diesel and Paul Walker should sue Holder for giving their movies a worse rep than they already have......
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chainpin wrote:
Sigh...that don't won't hunt.
There is a complete media blackout on the topic.
Nobody seems to give a rats ass.
It's pretty fucking sad really.
Mojo, Chainpin,Big K What are your thought's on this matter?
"Gunwalking" started under the Bush Administration?
The first known ATF "gunwalking" operation to Mexican drug cartels, named Operation Wide Receiver, began in early 2006 and ran into late 2007
. Licensed dealer Mike Detty informed the ATF of a suspicious gun purchase that took place in February 2006 in
Tucson, Arizona
. In March he was hired as a confidential informant working with the ATF's Tucson office, part of their Phoenix, Arizona field division.
[23]
With the use of surveillance equipment, ATF agents monitored additional sales by Detty to straw purchasers. With assurance from ATF "that Mexican officials would be conducting surveillance or interdictions when guns got to the other side of the border",
[24]
Detty would sell a total of about 450 guns during the operation.
[22]
These included
AR-15s
,
AK-47s
and Colt .38s. The vast majority of the guns were eventually lost as they moved into Mexico.
[7]
[23]
[25]
Rodred
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Its cute how when you search "Bush gun walking" you get hits from all of the usual left players screaming B-b-b ut Buuuuuuusssshhhhhh but they don't spend much time addressing the hundreds of murders, including our own LEO's, that have occurred under Holder.
They also do a fine job cherry picking but thats to be expected.
"Hey look over there! A fuzzy bunny"
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Rodred wrote:
Its cute how when you search "Bush gun walking" you get hits from all of the usual left players screaming B-b-b ut Buuuuuuusssshhhhhh but they don't spend much time addressing the hundreds of murders, including our own LEO's, that have occurred under Holder.
They also do a fine job cherry picking but thats to be expected.
"Hey look over there! A fuzzy bunny"
So you are saying even though the Bush Administration started the policy, none of the guns they provided the drug cartels were use to murder anyone? How do you know the 'Hundreds" of murders including our own LEO's are not being done with those guns? It is cute how you "usual" right players are ready to blame the left but do not take responsibility for the right starting the program in the first place.
You do a fine job of cherry picking but that is to be expected. "Hey look over there! A fuzzy bunny", but let me ignore this elephant sitting on my chest!
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Did you skip the part where the Bush administration cancelled the program?
Go to some research and get back to us when you can talk intelligently about the difference in how the programs were implemented. I would suggesf avoiding the usual left wing sources of information if you are really interested in facts.
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Rodred wrote:
Did you skip the part where the Bush administration cancelled the program?
Go to some research and get back to us when you can talk intelligently about the difference in how the programs were implemented. I would suggesf avoiding the usual left wing sources of information if you are really interested in facts.
Let's see your "Facts". All the sources I've seen show there were large quantities of guns that were allowed to be bought and transported in Mexico that were never recovered. Since all my sources are left wing please provide me with the links for the "True" facts.
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