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Question for Rapp - Prepping Tubulars for training and racing

oper

Apr 15, 12 11:24

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Question for Rapp - Prepping Tubulars for training and racing	Quote \| Reply

i've been having a lot of punctures lately and im looking for a solution that won't cause more drag and won't harm the rolling resistance of the tire.
I remember reading something that Jordan once wrote about him prepping the tubular for training and racing-what exact materials do you put inside the tubs?
can you please describe the stages of applying them to the tire?

bmeer

Apr 15, 12 12:46

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Re: Question for Rapp - Prepping Tubulars for training and racing [oper] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

he puts in (i think) either stans or slime. maybe both. search ask me anything about arizona/canada threads

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oper

Apr 15, 12 13:25

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Re: Question for Rapp - Prepping Tubulars for training and racing [bmeer] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

thanks,i have searched those.
was wondering about exact quantities and what is the exact procedure to keep rolling resistance the same?

Il Falco

Apr 15, 12 13:28

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Re: Question for Rapp - Prepping Tubulars for training and racing [oper] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

I recall vaughters recently tweeting that it was slow as shit (his words) having sealant in the tubie.

cjb3

Apr 15, 12 13:29

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Re: Question for Rapp - Prepping Tubulars for training and racing [oper] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

He puts in a 1/2oz of stans and 1/2oz of slime for autos in ea. tire.

jackmott

Apr 15, 12 13:29

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Re: Question for Rapp - Prepping Tubulars for training and racing [Il Falco] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

Il Falco wrote:

I recall vaughters recently tweeting that it was slow as shit (his words) having sealant in the tubie.

i like the guy, but wouldn't trust him with stuff like that.

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oper

Apr 15, 12 14:05

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Re: Question for Rapp - Prepping Tubulars for training and racing [jackmott] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

jackmott ill be honest with you,i always thought the same thing (that they are slow as shit) until i read what Jordan wrote..
many recent flats made me open for some new ideas though :-)..
rapp?

(This post was edited by oper on Apr 15, 12 14:06)

jackmott

Apr 15, 12 14:06

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Re: Question for Rapp - Prepping Tubulars for training and racing [oper] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

oper wrote:

jackmott to tell you the truth i always thought the same thing (that they are slow as shit) until i read what Jordan wrote..
many recent flats made me open for some new ideas though :-)..
rapp?

i have a crazy idea for ya:
some cheap clincher wheels with gatorskins to train on, and then race on pristine tubular rubber that isn't likely to flat because it hasn't been worn out in training?

=)

good luck!

Boardman Bikes now in the USA
The newest tri shop in Austin - ATC 360
Freelance sports & outdoors writer Kathryn Hunter

carbonsport

Apr 15, 12 14:14

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Re: Question for Rapp - Prepping Tubulars for training and racing [oper] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

use tough tubulars.I love riding on Vittoria Pave 24's.Good enough for Paris -Roubais-probably good enough for you.Also a very comfortable ride.Well glued tubulars are tough to remove and once removed,an unglued tubular is worrisome if there are significant descents.Why not use a proven tough tire even if it MAY be a bit slower??

oper

Apr 15, 12 14:18

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Re: Question for Rapp - Prepping Tubulars for training and racing [carbonsport] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

well i think the answer is obvious - we are in slowtwitch aren't we? drag is no go :-)

lol jackmott

AndrewM

Apr 15, 12 15:50

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Re: Question for Rapp - Prepping Tubulars for training and racing [oper] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

oper wrote:

Just buy one can of Vittoria pit stop and don't worry about it. You could always put Stans in it, but Pit Stop works like a charm.

MARV

Apr 15, 12 19:37

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Re: Question for Rapp - Prepping Tubulars for training and racing [AndrewM] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

I think I remember him mentioning Stans AND Pit Stop...
It was last IMC race thread

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Dopers.Suck

Apr 15, 12 20:03

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Re: Question for Rapp - Prepping Tubulars for training and racing [oper] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

"I'd also suggest trying sealant for the tacks. That might have worked. 50% stan's & 50% automotive slime seems to be the magic combo for tubulars. I put about 30ml in each tire. I actually put on a new rear tire for Calgary (and IMC), and I cut open the old one. The slime/stan's mix was still liquid. I last put the mix in for Abu Dhabi." Quote from Rappstar

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hotshot

Apr 15, 12 20:27

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Re: Question for Rapp - Prepping Tubulars for training and racing [Il Falco] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

Il Falco wrote:

I recall vaughters recently tweeting that it was slow as shit (his words) having sealant in the tubie.

That may mean something we you have a team car behind you but rolling resistance means nothing when you standing on the side of the road.

Jordan using the 50/50 mix as well as a pitstop (or smililar brand) for extra help. It's the set up I'm going to use in zofingen this year with new tubs glued on just before leaving. When I glue tubs the dont come off easy at all and I do not want to be bombing down those descents with an unglued tub.
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oper

Apr 15, 12 21:14

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Re: Question for Rapp - Prepping Tubulars for training and racing [hotshot] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

thanks guys,ll try this and report back.