I recently bought a pair of De Soto Forza tri shorts and just wore them on back to back centuries. Best bike short I have every owned. Period.

Just curious but what saddles do you guys use. Just want to see if that makes a difference in comfort.

i must be the only person that doesn't like these bibs.

No you're not alone. I bought a pair and they just did not work for me. I'm 5'6 and ~125 lbs, and that pad is just way too big. It needs to be scaled down for the smaller sized apparel. Not only that but since the pad is so thick it adds a bit of height, so it can cause you issues if you don't adjust your seat height. It's also way too high up on the stomach. I had to roll it down a bit. I'm sure if you're sporting a belly and want it tucked away it'd be nice, not so much for me. It also creates a massive oven down there as far as breathability if you live in a hot/humid area. My peak weekly bike hours so far this year have been around ~16hrs (not a lot compared to everyone here), but I can say I wouldn't want to wear those on my longer rides.

PS. I missed the money back guarantee time frame, and I'm selling my lightly worn 400 mile size small in the classifieds. /blatant ad

That's gross.

i must be the only person that doesn't like these bibs.

I'm still trying to decide if I like my 400 mile shorts (10 months old). They are damn tight around the legs and when I climb (seated) they tend to want to slide down my arse. I have to pull them up high and tie the draw string tight to keep them in the right position. I've already had to send them back once for the stitching coming undone around the pad so the jury is still out on how well they will last (bar is set high from my 10year old Perl Izumis). On the plus siide they are comfortable at 4hr + on my new Cobb saddle. And I do like the little pockets on the sides (good for keys, gels).

I'm still trying to decide if I like my 400 mile shorts (10 months old). They are damn tight around the legs and when I climb (seated) they tend to want to slide down my arse. I have to pull them up high and tie the draw string tight to keep them in the right position. I've already had to send them back once for the stitching coming undone around the pad so the jury is still out on how well they will last (bar is set high from my 10year old Perl Izumis). On the plus siide they are comfortable at 4hr + on my new Cobb saddle. And I do like the little pockets on the sides (good for keys, gels).

I washed them between rides.
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