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chainpin
Mar 22, 12 9:34
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"OBAMA: We are doing the all of the above strategy right. Obviously, we wish Solyndra hadn’t gone bankrupt. Part of the reason they did was because the Chinese were subsidizing their solar industry and flooding the market in ways that Solyndra couldn’t compete. But understand, this was not our program per se."
Not your program eh Barry?
You are a fraud and a joke, oh, and a bad liar.
http://freebeacon.com/...was-not-our-program/
"I really wish you would post more often. You always have some good stuff to say. I copied it below just in case someone missed it." BarryP to Chainpin on 10/21/06
TheForge
Mar 22, 12 9:51
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I'm sick of his BS. Even more than I was with Bush. At least Bush took responsibility for some of his failed policies.
chainpin
Mar 22, 12 9:59
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It is ridiculous.
The absurdity of it is too much.
"I really wish you would post more often. You always have some good stuff to say. I copied it below just in case someone missed it." BarryP to Chainpin on 10/21/06
Old Hickory
Mar 22, 12 11:47
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So what now? We wait on the ususal suspects to arrive and attempt to deflect the story?
C'mon folks... where are you? Etch -a- sketch. Birth Control. C'mon. Obama killed Osama.
TheForge
Mar 22, 12 11:50
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I'll be honest. I'll probably never be satified with who is in power. I have equal disdain for leadershipin both parties. Romney doesn't offend me like others do, so it is a start. But I'll probably be just as pissed off by May of next year. Well, maybe not quite as much. Obama is really, really, really bad.
Quel
Mar 22, 12 12:01
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Old Hickory wrote:
So what now? We wait on the ususal suspects to arrive and attempt to deflect the story?
Sorry. You're dead wrong.
It's okay because Rush called Fluke a slut.
chainpin
Mar 22, 12 12:20
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I find it highly funny thta Obama calls out the subsidies by the Chinese government as a reason that Solyndra went belly up.
In doing this, he highlights exactly why the government was the only reason Solyndra was funded in the first place--because no private investor in their right mind would throw money down that rat hole when it was fully known that the cost advantage vs. China was a non starter.
Obama is a fool.
He thinks he knows hot to allocate capital better than the free market and he has been proven dead fucking wrong time and time again.
But this won't stop the commi moonbats, and socialist shills to STILL continue to believe that their system of organizing an economy is superior to capitalism.
What a joke--failure after failure, and these fools never learn.
"I really wish you would post more often. You always have some good stuff to say. I copied it below just in case someone missed it." BarryP to Chainpin on 10/21/06
YaHey
Mar 22, 12 12:23
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Was this a government run company?
Or was a government funded company?
chainpin
Mar 22, 12 12:42
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YaHey wrote:
Was this a government run company?
Or was a government funded company?
What does it matter it was a taxpayer money that was put at risk in a venture that was doomed to fail.
The entire incentive strucutre that explains how good business efficenity use capital was FUBAR.
Do I need to dig up the idiocy behind the wastful things that were purchased for the companies elaborate, luxury headquarters.
Again, that is OUR fucking money, going straight down the shitter, and Obama, if he had any balls, or dignity, or a backbone, would man the fuck up and apolgize for wasting our money.
Instead we get his limp dick excuse that this wasn't his pet project.
Do you think he would say the same if--via a miracle from God--Solyndra would have been the next Apple?
Pathetic.
"I really wish you would post more often. You always have some good stuff to say. I copied it below just in case someone missed it." BarryP to Chainpin on 10/21/06
Quel
Mar 22, 12 12:50
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This just in: politician doesn't take responsibility for $500 million fuck up.
bcart1991
Mar 22, 12 12:57
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Quel wrote:
This just in: politician doesn't take responsibility for $500 million fuck up.
That this does not disappoint you is itself disappointing.
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Mar 22, 12 12:57
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I find it highly funny thta Obama calls out the subsidies by the Chinese government as a reason that Solyndra went belly up.
Not only funny, but just plain ignorant.
If China wants to spend billions on solar panels to drive their sales price down, let them. In essence they are shipping us money. They aren't making money on the product. The second they stop subsidizing them the price goes up and then if people want to buy them at the new higher price you compete with that. This is why subsidization is simply a lost cause.
You dump money into research, development and then keep the price down by dumping more money into via subsidization. If and when you quite subsidizing it and people start buying it everyone steals your technology and off they go.
~Matt
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Mar 22, 12 13:10
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Ideology is priceless. And deaf, dumb, and blind... it appears.
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Mar 22, 12 13:19
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bcart1991 wrote:
Quel wrote:
This just in: politician doesn't take responsibility for $500 million fuck up.
That this does not disappoint you is itself disappointing.
Where did I say it wasn't disappointing? It's just not surprising.
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Mar 22, 12 13:27
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Apparently Mitt has a similar record as Governor - - so who do we put in charge? - - or better yet, How can we stop all corporate subsidies?
http://www.politico.com/...ries/0212/72498.html
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Mar 22, 12 13:27
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What does it matter it was a taxpayer money that was put at risk in a venture that was doomed to fail.
What do you mean what does it matter? Do you know how many companies are subsidized by the government?
I didn't realize Obama was actually making day to day decisions for this company.
You need to get your story straight.
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Mar 22, 12 15:26
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I'm sick of his BS. Even more than I was with Bush. At least Bush took responsibility for some of his failed policies.
which ones?
So you are saying Obama personally authorized the Solyndra loan? BTW I am not saying this was not a huge debacle, but you can't blame the president for everything. Yes, Steven Chu (Secretary of Energy) is a complete bonehead. If you were calling out Obama for not canning Stephen Chu over this, I would agree with you. But since you are blaming Obama himself, you just aren't credible. He is no more personally responsible for Solyndra than he is for taking out Bin Laden.
Yes, Obama appointed Chu. The right thing to do when you put someone in charge of something and they royally fuck it up is to can them.
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Mar 22, 12 15:30
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Chainpin/theforge
Your level of stupidity constantly amazes me.
IM GOING TO FORM A STRONG OPINION WITH LITTLE TO NO RELEVANT KNOWLEDGE HERP DERP HERP
tri_yoda
Mar 22, 12 15:36
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chainpin wrote:
I find it highly funny thta Obama calls out the subsidies by the Chinese government as a reason that Solyndra went belly up.
In doing this, he highlights exactly why the government was the only reason Solyndra was funded in the first place--because no private investor in their right mind would throw money down that rat hole when it was fully known that the cost advantage vs. China was a non starter.
Obama is a fool.
He thinks he knows hot to allocate capital better than the free market and he has been proven dead fucking wrong time and time again.
But this won't stop the commi moonbats, and socialist shills to STILL continue to believe that their system of organizing an economy is superior to capitalism.
What a joke--failure after failure, and these fools never learn.
In all seriousness, why does everyone let the Secretary of Energy off the hook on this? If you think attacking the President is going to get you anywhere on this, you are the one that is a fool. The best thing that could come of this, is that if people (the media included) would hold the cabinet level person responsible for this fiscal disaster accountable, it would not be unreasonable to force his resignation and/or dismissal.
For a number of reasons Chu needs to be removed. The extent of bad decisions that have come down during his tenure is bad, even by the low bar set by the DOE. The cynic in me says the only reason to keep Chu in his position is so that he can make further colossal mistakes that strengthen calls for dissolving the DOE. I am kind of torn, because I think a coherent energy policy is vital for America, but the history of DOE fucking things up is so bad, we would arguably be better off with no energy policy or DOE as compared to the shit sandwich we have right now.
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Mar 22, 12 15:49
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I miss the good ol' days when we could blame Bush for everything.... including the weather.
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Mar 22, 12 15:56
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The weather has been really great this winter, so go ahead and blame Obama for it.
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Mar 22, 12 16:00
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Please educate us all on the subject.
And no cheating...you have to put your DailyKos crib sheet away before doing so.
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Mar 22, 12 16:11
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Nothing to see here.
In the wake of the Solyndra financial disaster for taxpayers, a lawsuit was filed one day ahead of the President's Copper Mountain inspection tour charging illegal financial practices at First Solar (FSLR). In addition, a report on The Street said First Solar, "was the worst-performing stock in the S&P 500 Wednesday morning."
The 'impending collapse' of First Solar, which owns a solar panel manufacturing plant near Toledo, Ohio, may be mentioned when the President visits Ohio this week. But news from the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Oversight and Government Reform is not encouraging for alternative energy loan guarantees such as the $455million taxpayers will be forced to give to First Solar if criminal charges are not filed soon.
"Tell me more about Copper Mountain Uncle Obama"
USA Today covered the President's first day of a four day tour to highlight his successes in energy. Speaking at what is supposedly the largest solar generating plant in the country, the Copper Mountain Solar One plant, the President said, "If some politicians have their way, there won't be any more public investment in solar energy. There won't be as many new jobs and new businesses."
"Tell me more about the new jobs Uncle Obama
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The Copper Mountain plant, run by Sempra Energy, employes only
5 full time employees
. It is rated as generating 48mega-watts, which is less power than Nellis Air Force Base (near Las Vegas) uses each day. For comparison, US Navy aircraft carriers can generate almost 4 times the output of Copper Mountain.
The output of Hoover Dam is enough to power just two cities the size of Vegas, yet it is as powerful a hydroelectric plant as has ever been built - until China's new project is online.
"How much did we have to spend to get those five people full time jobs Uncle Obama
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The Copper Mountain Solar Plant in Boulder City Nevada was built in 2010 after receiving nearly $55 million in YOUR tax dollars. Since that time the plant has created only five full time positions – or just over $10 million government dollars per employee.
"That sounds very efficient Uncle Obama. Now can you tell me your idea for using unicorn farts to light up NYC? I love fairy tales at bedtime"
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Chainpin/theforge
Your level of stupidity constantly amazes me.
IM GOING TO FORM A STRONG OPINION WITH LITTLE TO NO RELEVANT KNOWLEDGE HERP DERP HERP
Hey asshat, bring it the fuck on and if you want to debate on any topic related to Obama's time as Chief AINO start the thread and prepare to be annihilated.
So, now the ball is in your court, so please keep talking about Solyndra, as I'm up for a good old fashioned interweb forum moonbat/ballwasher smackdown fest of biblical proportions of the first and highest everlasting order.
"I really wish you would post more often. You always have some good stuff to say. I copied it below just in case someone missed it." BarryP to Chainpin on 10/21/06
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chainpin wrote:
I find it highly funny thta Obama calls out the subsidies by the Chinese government as a reason that Solyndra went belly up.
In doing this, he highlights exactly why the government was the only reason Solyndra was funded in the first place--because no private investor in their right mind would throw money down that rat hole when it was fully known that the cost advantage vs. China was a non starter.
Obama is a fool.
He thinks he knows hot to allocate capital better than the free market and he has been proven dead fucking wrong time and time again.
But this won't stop the commi moonbats, and socialist shills to STILL continue to believe that their system of organizing an economy is superior to capitalism.
What a joke--failure after failure, and these fools never learn.
In all seriousness, why does everyone let the Secretary of Energy off the hook on this? If you think attacking the President is going to get you anywhere on this, you are the one that is a fool. The best thing that could come of this, is that if people (the media included) would hold the cabinet level person responsible for this fiscal disaster accountable, it would not be unreasonable to force his resignation and/or dismissal.
For a number of reasons Chu needs to be removed. The extent of bad decisions that have come down during his tenure is bad, even by the low bar set by the DOE. The cynic in me says the only reason to keep Chu in his position is so that he can make further colossal mistakes that strengthen calls for dissolving the DOE. I am kind of torn, because I think a coherent energy policy is vital for America, but the history of DOE fucking things up is so bad, we would arguably be better off with no energy policy or DOE as compared to the shit sandwich we have right now.
That's fine if you want Chu replaced, but he is just a pawn, that implements Obama's failed green energy policy.
I can attack Obama on this because it is his policy, it is his decision to invest in these technologies which are doomed to fail.
Hell, you guys know I have predicted this for at least the last couple years and I have the threads to show it.
This was all very predicable.
He's modeled his plan after Spain and other countries that have also failed at the green energy subsidy game.
It's a fucking joke, so don't bring that weak ass shit, that I can't criticize this guy for wasting a measly $500M on Solyndra, because it is not just this debacle that we are talking about, in fact, the fucking list of Obama's green energy disasters is so long, that when I search on my old posts about them, Dan's servers shit themselves.
And if anyone here wants to challenge me on any of this then step right up, I have a long history of following Obama's failed energy policy, so I'm warning you now, the odds of your success in countering my claims are fucking dead nuts zero.
So here you yoda, my post from May 2010 predicting ALL of this shit:
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/..._latest_reply;so=ASC
Waiting.
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