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Duffy

Mar 18, 12 19:45

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Re: Throw this in the not well thought out category [Marco in BC] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

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What if your kid was on a wheelchair and you had to explain to them that no, they couldn't go on vacation in the same hotel as their friend but they have to go to the hotel across town because that's the only one that is wheelchair accessible due to "business considerations"?

I'd call that a lazy, shitty thing to do by the parents.

My father was paralyzed on his left side and was wheelchair bound for the last 6 years of his life (died at 54). There was a pool in town he used for aqua therapy. Whenever I went with him we didn't use the lift because it was a pain in the ass. I'd roll him in at the steps. We stayed at many a hotel with pools, none of which had lifts. It made no difference as to whether or not he went swimming (and yes, he could swim).

Nothing (and I mean nothing) pisses me off more than people who use disabilities (their own or that of others) as an excuse or justification to force others to "accommodate" them.

My father his rolling in his grave with the middle finger on both hands sticking straight out.


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JenSw

Mar 18, 12 19:58

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Re: Throw this in the not well thought out category [realAlbertan] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Seriously. That was beyond fucked up.
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JSA

Mar 18, 12 20:04

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Re: Throw this in the not well thought out category [trail] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

trail wrote:
> If you are para or quad, I think you generally have a healthy fear of the water. If you don't travel with a personal assistant that is trained in handling you in the pool, how can you even use the pool anyway?

Check this out. Severe quad, and he doesn't look like he needs handling in the pool. But I imagine he'd need help getting out.

Not saying we should require every business in the U.S. to accommodate the tiny fraction of people like him, but it's still pretty cool.

That is my mom's student. She was a special ed teacher at Green Bay Preble High School. I have met and spoken with him. He thought it was pretty awesome that I did Ironman races. I told him that was nothing compared to what he was doing. He is amazing.
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last tri in 83

Mar 18, 12 20:54

Post #29 of 34 (411 views)
Re: Throw this in the not well thought out category [Marco in BC] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Nice rant but keep in mind that not every lodging property is a major resort that can afford a pool rebuild. Many are small mom and pop operations where a $20-30k pool renovation is pretty significant.

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qqqq

Mar 19, 12 1:58

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Re: Throw this in the not well thought out category [last tri in 83] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Why do you hate the Government creating jobs? It's for your security. Right up there with a lifeguard on every body of water or else the Government should close the lakes ;)

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jbank

Mar 19, 12 4:44

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Re: Throw this in the not well thought out category [last tri in 83] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Definitely have to worry a bit about the laws of unintended consequences. I listened to a really good piece the other day discussing how various accessibility laws are enforced in California. The gist of the story was that the govt relies on individuals suing for violations and then the individual gets some pretty sizable cut of money. It made it sound like there are a few wheel chair lawyers who essentially have created full time jobs for themselves by finding violations. The story then went on to discuss two points that were particularly telling. First, they pointed out that there were so many regulations and they were so hard to follow that even a well intentioned company would be in violation; an expert at finding issues could find them anywhere. Second, they pointed out that as a result, many hotels for example will have a handicap accessible room, but that room will be unavailable if anyone ever requests it, because they would rather not risk the lawsuit if someone finds a violation. Seems like a mess for both sides...


Robert

Mar 19, 12 5:19

Post #32 of 34 (375 views)
Re: Throw this in the not well thought out category [realAlbertan] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Please install a battery in your sarcasm meter. I was agreeing with you.... This is LR, get a grip.

FWIW, I have a severely disabled brother (Parkinson's) and a cousin with polio.

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Rodred

Mar 19, 12 5:24

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Re: Throw this in the not well thought out category [Robert] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

There is an edit button for your convenience.

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Rodred

Mar 19, 12 5:25

Post #34 of 34 (371 views)
Re: Throw this in the not well thought out category [JenSw] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

JenSw wrote:
Seriously. That was beyond fucked up.

I hate to admit it but I get all hot when you drop F-bombs!

Thats my way of saying I agree :)

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