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chainpin

Mar 5, 12 10:03

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Re: Finally, Limbaugh screws himself [BarryP] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

BarryP wrote:

Quote:
Bill Maher makes money by calling Sarah Palin a cunt.



There is actually a difference. It's kind of like Chris Rock using the n-word versus you calling a bunch of black people names that they find offensive for doing things that they normally do.


Yeah, uhh....kind of.

In any event, it looks like the chronic leg spreader is taking the low road and not accepting the apology--as if that was a surprise.

Contrast this with Palin who accepted Maher's apology with class and forgiveness....oh, wait, Maher never apologized, silly me, I forgot that its ok for liberals to call woman bad names, as long as they are Republican.

In any event, as was mentioned above Rush is going to come out looking like a rose, and the puma in training, Miss Fluke, is still enjoying her newfound fame--can't wait for her legs behind the ears sex tape to come out.

"I really wish you would post more often. You always have some good stuff to say. I copied it below just in case someone missed it." BarryP to Chainpin on 10/21/06



roddybottum

Mar 5, 12 10:25

Post #152 of 245 (1164 views)
Re: Finally, Limbaugh screws himself [big kahuna] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

big kahuna wrote:
Selective liberal outrage. It's a beautiful thing, eh? Bill Maher makes money by calling Sarah Palin a cunt. Rush Limbaugh observes that this cheap tramp (hey...she's going through three grand a year for condoms, IUDs, the Pill and whatnot, so clearly something's going on here ;-) may be suffering a bit from what we used to call "looseness" and the mockrage on the part of folks like you begins.

Let's examine your logic a little bit.

Clearly, there's a link between spending money on contraceptives and actual sexual activity.

HOWEVER

There is no real link between spending money on the birth control pill and actual sexual activity. For example, participants in this very thread have explained how many women need the pill to fix or manager specific health issues related to hormones. In these cases, a woman could be completely 100% celibate and still have a need for the pill 12 months of the year.

So this is clearly a big leap when we go from the fact that someone needs to pay for the pill, to the idea that this makes them sexually promiscuous. There's nothing that this sort of expense says about a person other than the fact that they're female.

If we add in condoms - this starts to imply that the person IS sexually active, or at least plans to be at some point. However it says nothing about the number of sexual partners that person has or plans to have. Most intelligent women know that the pill is not 100% effective - a backup plan is clearly smart. The most common backup plan in 2012 is using condoms.

A woman who chooses to buy the pill AND condoms may or may not be sexually active, if they are sexually active, may or may not have more than one partner over the course of a year.

Would you really call a woman who has one partner promiscuous? Or are you actually assuming that women who make intelligent, conservative choices when it comes to sexual health deserve to be called names and ridiculed?

I'll give chainpin a pass on this one because we all know he's just a fucking moron. But the rest of you... logic, people.


TheForge

Mar 5, 12 10:28

Post #153 of 245 (1159 views)
Re: Finally, Limbaugh screws himself [chainpin] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

First off this lady is an activist. So she is playing up the false lack of access vs the real availability. If she truly did not have an ability to pay for contraception, she could go to free health clinics where contraception is readily available. If it were for health reason, like the one she posed a strawman arugment for, she could obtain generic oral contraception from any corner pharmacy for 10 bucks. This isn't about access. This is about here wanting her cake and eating it to. She chose to go to the prestigious Georgetown University, a Catholic Institution. They do not provide that service as it is against their beliefs. She is a feminist who has a problem with that. My answer is, go to another law school. But since you have a scholarship there, you should be gratful. Maybe she, like most liberals, is just another elitist snobs. To good to go to the health clinic where the services are provided. She probably doesn't want to spend time in line with the riff raff they claim to passionately defend.


big kahuna

Mar 5, 12 10:59

Post #154 of 245 (1140 views)
Re: Finally, Limbaugh screws himself [roddybottum] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

roddybottum wrote:
big kahuna wrote:
Selective liberal outrage. It's a beautiful thing, eh? Bill Maher makes money by calling Sarah Palin a cunt. Rush Limbaugh observes that this cheap tramp (hey...she's going through three grand a year for condoms, IUDs, the Pill and whatnot, so clearly something's going on here ;-) may be suffering a bit from what we used to call "looseness" and the mockrage on the part of folks like you begins.


Let's examine your logic a little bit.

Clearly, there's a link between spending money on contraceptives and actual sexual activity.

HOWEVER

There is no real link between spending money on the birth control pill and actual sexual activity. For example, participants in this very thread have explained how many women need the pill to fix or manager specific health issues related to hormones. In these cases, a woman could be completely 100% celibate and still have a need for the pill 12 months of the year.

So this is clearly a big leap when we go from the fact that someone needs to pay for the pill, to the idea that this makes them sexually promiscuous. There's nothing that this sort of expense says about a person other than the fact that they're female.

If we add in condoms - this starts to imply that the person IS sexually active, or at least plans to be at some point. However it says nothing about the number of sexual partners that person has or plans to have. Most intelligent women know that the pill is not 100% effective - a backup plan is clearly smart. The most common backup plan in 2012 is using condoms.

A woman who chooses to buy the pill AND condoms may or may not be sexually active, if they are sexually active, may or may not have more than one partner over the course of a year.

Would you really call a woman who has one partner promiscuous? Or are you actually assuming that women who make intelligent, conservative choices when it comes to sexual health deserve to be called names and ridiculed?

I'll give chainpin a pass on this one because we all know he's just a fucking moron. But the rest of you... logic, people.

Good God, man. Can't you see how friggin' ridiculous you sound, getting all wrapped around the axle about that woman's sex life when it was being used as an example of the putter, utter hypocrisy of the Left? But feel free to defend her honor, if you'd like. Like a really give a crap about her, personally, other than as a vehicle for tweaking the sanctimonious, like you, here. So by all means: Carry on smartly, sailor.


big kahuna

Mar 5, 12 11:08

Post #155 of 245 (1133 views)
Re: Finally, Limbaugh screws himself [theforge] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

theforge wrote:
First off this lady is an activist. So she is playing up the false lack of access vs the real availability. If she truly did not have an ability to pay for contraception, she could go to free health clinics where contraception is readily available. If it were for health reason, like the one she posed a strawman arugment for, she could obtain generic oral contraception from any corner pharmacy for 10 bucks. This isn't about access. This is about here wanting her cake and eating it to. She chose to go to the prestigious Georgetown University, a Catholic Institution. They do not provide that service as it is against their beliefs. She is a feminist who has a problem with that. My answer is, go to another law school. But since you have a scholarship there, you should be gratful. Maybe she, like most liberals, is just another elitist snobs. To good to go to the health clinic where the services are provided. She probably doesn't want to spend time in line with the riff raff they claim to passionately defend.

Dude, she got into Georgetown -- which is a Catholic university -- precisely to attempt to force a change in the school's student "health care" (contraception as health care? Sure, but only in tightly defined circumstances) policies (i.e. no, Georgetown won't be issuing condoms or the Pill and other contraceptives as a matter of course because it violates Catholic teaching and moral guidelines). She's been a liar and a provocateur almost from the get-go, when whatever group of dummies at the law school's admissions committee decided to let her join up let her into the school, and it was her intent all along to gin up just this kind of outrage on the Left. Most lefties can't even see how smoothly they've been played, of course, because they're so worried about 'Pubs and conservatives comin' 'round to steal all the wimmins' ladyparts, I guess, never mind that the whole debate wasn't even about contraception, per se, but another abrogation of constitutionally guaranteed liberties.

Also, I hear she's not willing to accept Limbaugh's apology, saying it doesn't change anything, so what was the point of the exercise in the first place? So more of the libby fascists could then take off after Limbaugh sponsors and the sponsors of other radio personalities not even remotely associated with conservative -- or liberal, for that matter -- politics, using their refusal to come out and castigate Limbaugh, whom many have never even listened to or had even a tangential connection with, in order to save themselves from having the sponsors who also sponsored Limbaugh drop them, too? See? Now, that really is liberal fascism making use of agitprop -- which is all that Fluke was doing -- in order to force everybody to accede to the liberal worldview.


roddybottum

Mar 5, 12 11:12

Post #156 of 245 (1127 views)
Re: Finally, Limbaugh screws himself [big kahuna] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

I'm just saying, if you're going to try to 'tweak' people, at least do it in a way that isn't logically inconsistent on its face. Just makes you look like an idiot.


chainpin

Mar 5, 12 11:16

Post #157 of 245 (1123 views)
Re: Finally, Limbaugh screws himself [big kahuna] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Exactly, I bet she hasn't gotten laid in years, let alone the 7-8 times per day that her math would imply.

When her 15 minutes are up, Rush will still be sitting behind the golden mic, with a new crop of advertisiers and millions upon millions of listeners.

"I really wish you would post more often. You always have some good stuff to say. I copied it below just in case someone missed it." BarryP to Chainpin on 10/21/06



big kahuna

Mar 5, 12 11:17

Post #158 of 245 (1121 views)
Re: Finally, Limbaugh screws himself [roddybottum] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

roddybottum wrote:
I'm just saying, if you're going to try to 'tweak' people, at least do it in a way that isn't logically inconsistent on its face. Just makes you look like an idiot.

C'mon...that's your opinion masquerading as fact. According to your side, the fact that somebody like Maher can call somebody like Palin, who's a public person, a cunt (and believe me, I was more than ready to kick a few asses back in '08, over the whole treatment-of-Palin thing, so I'll be honest about that right up front) is somehow valid while somebody like Limbaugh, who's also making his money in much the same way as Maher -- though Limbaugh isn't paid by a network to do it -- can't make what he believes to be valid criticism of this Fluke woman, who is no less a public person through her "community activism" and less-than-truthful advocacy in front of the Congress? That was pure agitprop, and you clueless lefties swallow it hook, line and sinker with amazing consistency. I guess the need for civility in our discourse is only restricted to those on the Right, correct? Now who -- in defending Maher through pleas for logic, people, logic -- looks like an idiot, sirrah?


big kahuna

Mar 5, 12 11:30

Post #159 of 245 (1109 views)
Re: Finally, Limbaugh screws himself [chainpin] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

chainpin wrote:
Exactly, I bet she hasn't gotten laid in years, let alone the 7-8 times per day that her math would imply.

When her 15 minutes are up, Rush will still be sitting behind the golden mic, with a new crop of advertisiers and millions upon millions of listeners.

By my troth, I listen not to the man, but that's mainly because matters au temps perdu often prevent me from listening to his perorations. But I did catch wind of this particular kerfuffle, ginned up by the institutional Left, and felt compelled to address the simple idiocy of the outcry by those in the media and the Left (but I repeat myself ;-) who feel compelled to rush to the aid of the damsel in distress, which is exactly as she and her handlers intended. Pity Limbaugh for being the fool who first felt he needed to address her inane babble instead of ignore it and let those of us who are the foot soldiers do the cutting and thrusting, and pity more the honest leftish type folks who joined in on the Limbaugh tar and feathers party, because they really don't see how easily they've been played in all this, too.


LorenzoP

Mar 5, 12 11:31

Post #160 of 245 (1109 views)
Re: Finally, Limbaugh screws himself [big kahuna] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

to be 'fair' and consistent, why should 'we' have to pay for the delivery of someones kid - you want a child, pay for the birth yourself . . .

and if you get injured from biking, running, riding a motorcycle or anything I deem as 'optional or recreational' - - pay for that yourself as well - or walk it off.

Why stop at contraception?


MJuric

Mar 5, 12 11:34

Post #161 of 245 (1107 views)
Re: Finally, Limbaugh screws himself [Mojozenmaster] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Man are we playing musical chairs with name changes?

~Matt


LorenzoP

Mar 5, 12 11:35

Post #162 of 245 (1100 views)
Re: Finally, Limbaugh screws himself [MJuric] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

it's just a Kool handle . . . .


big kahuna

Mar 5, 12 11:41

Post #163 of 245 (1096 views)
Re: Finally, Limbaugh screws himself [Mojozenmaster] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

See, that's the problem: Lefties can't see the forest for the individual trees so they just lump everything under the rubric of "compassion, and doing what's right" (by their lights), never mind that there's usually an element of personal responsibility that's supposedly inherent in everything we do. But when you have the bottomless well of "government wealth" (that's actually pretty bone dry right now) from which to draw, what's wrong with making this, that and all the other things "rights?" It's only "good government policy" (what a contradiction in terms) and all that other jizzum, right?

For example, on one hand we all publicly decry single motherhood and the deterioration that loss of the family unit tends to bring to a society, except when we aren't encouraging it through government largesse. We make it easy for everybody to live on the dole, suckling from Leviathan's teat, and then tsk-tsk when we see Greece winding its way back down the first world ladder to its natural punching weight, which is somewhere on the lower rungs of the second world or the top rungs of the third world, and can't see that Greece's issues are ours, just a bit later in this decade.

Finally, we plead for charity -- such as the $98 billion worth of actual charitable works, in the form of hospitals, free clinics, social work and other activities -- put forth by organizations like the Catholic Church and then demand that they continue to extend such charity even when we mandate that the charities themselves violate their own moral consciences by providing other forms of "health care" that they find to be a sin, in some cases. And then we cry and weep when such charity disappears but, in the next second, expect Uncle Sam to make up the difference. With what?


roddybottum

Mar 5, 12 11:46

Post #164 of 245 (1085 views)
Re: Finally, Limbaugh screws himself [big kahuna] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

big kahuna wrote:
roddybottum wrote:
I'm just saying, if you're going to try to 'tweak' people, at least do it in a way that isn't logically inconsistent on its face. Just makes you look like an idiot.


C'mon...that's your opinion masquerading as fact. According to your side, the fact that somebody like Maher can call somebody like Palin, who's a public person, a cunt (and believe me, I was more than ready to kick a few asses back in '08, over the whole treatment-of-Palin thing, so I'll be honest about that right up front) is somehow valid while somebody like Limbaugh, who's also making his money in much the same way as Maher -- though Limbaugh isn't paid by a network to do it -- can't make what he believes to be valid criticism of this Fluke woman, who is no less a public person through her "community activism" and less-than-truthful advocacy in front of the Congress? That was pure agitprop, and you clueless lefties swallow it hook, line and sinker with amazing consistency. I guess the need for civility in our discourse is only restricted to those on the Right, correct? Now who -- in defending Maher through pleas for logic, people, logic -- looks like an idiot, sirrah?

Not really a Maher fan, he comes off as too much of a dick, and is quite inconsistent at times. I prefer Stewart and Colbert for that style of 'infotainment'.

If you think calling someone a slut is a valid criticism of anyone, I'm hopeful that you'll find a remedial critical thinking course at your local community college.


Old Hickory

Mar 5, 12 11:51

Post #165 of 245 (1077 views)
Re: Finally, Limbaugh screws himself [roddybottum] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Who knew Ms. Fluke had an acne issue... at 31 years old, no less.


LorenzoP

Mar 5, 12 11:52

Post #166 of 245 (1077 views)
Re: Finally, Limbaugh screws himself [big kahuna] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

and my point is that Righties are perfectly fine with suckling at the teat as long as the activity is within their definition of 'being responsible' - - if someone slams into the chalet while skiing down the bunny hill and breaks their leg - is that being responsible? Righties are happy with the teat as long as they get to draw the lines.


BarryP

Mar 5, 12 11:54

Post #167 of 245 (1076 views)
Re: Finally, Limbaugh screws himself [chainpin] [In reply to] Quote | Reply


Quote:
Contrast this with Palin who accepted Maher's apology with class and forgiveness....oh, wait, Maher never apologized, silly me, I forgot that its ok for liberals to call woman bad names, as long as they are Republican.


I just explained this to you, but the truth is you don't really care what the right answer is. You just care what the right's answer is.


For the life of me I can't figure out how you get so much enjoyment in that. I've got a coworker who is similar.....really cool guy, smart, great conversation....but he's got this hard-on for praising all things republican and ripping apart all things democrat. Personally I enjoy zombie flicks and playing the drums.

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big kahuna

Mar 5, 12 11:55

Post #168 of 245 (1074 views)
Re: Finally, Limbaugh screws himself [roddybottum] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

roddybottum wrote:
big kahuna wrote:
roddybottum wrote:
I'm just saying, if you're going to try to 'tweak' people, at least do it in a way that isn't logically inconsistent on its face. Just makes you look like an idiot.


C'mon...that's your opinion masquerading as fact. According to your side, the fact that somebody like Maher can call somebody like Palin, who's a public person, a cunt (and believe me, I was more than ready to kick a few asses back in '08, over the whole treatment-of-Palin thing, so I'll be honest about that right up front) is somehow valid while somebody like Limbaugh, who's also making his money in much the same way as Maher -- though Limbaugh isn't paid by a network to do it -- can't make what he believes to be valid criticism of this Fluke woman, who is no less a public person through her "community activism" and less-than-truthful advocacy in front of the Congress? That was pure agitprop, and you clueless lefties swallow it hook, line and sinker with amazing consistency. I guess the need for civility in our discourse is only restricted to those on the Right, correct? Now who -- in defending Maher through pleas for logic, people, logic -- looks like an idiot, sirrah?


Not really a Maher fan, he comes off as too much of a dick, and is quite inconsistent at times. I prefer Stewart and Colbert for that style of 'infotainment'.

If you think calling someone a slut is a valid criticism of anyone, I'm hopeful that you'll find a remedial critical thinking course at your local community college.

Stewart and Colbert...that figures. And community college? Pshaw! I learned those at an august four-year university on the East Coast, courtesy of the largesse provided to me by Uncle Sam. Besides, everything I needed to know I learned in kindergarten, right?


Rodred

Mar 5, 12 11:56

Post #169 of 245 (1069 views)
Re: Finally, Limbaugh screws himself [BarryP] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

BarryP wrote:

Quote:
Bill Maher makes money by calling Sarah Palin a cunt.



There is actually a difference. It's kind of like Chris Rock using the n-word versus you calling a bunch of black people names that they find offensive for doing things that they normally do.

And FWIW, Bill Maher has been fired before for some of the stuff he has said.




Explain the difference.

Your Chris Rock analogy doesnt cut it.

Are you suggesting its somehow OK that Maher calls Palin names because the left somehow speaks for women so its ok because he is on their side?

Im just trying to clarify what you are suggesting is the difference and how maher somehow gets a pass. He and Rush are both entertainers if that matters to your analogy.

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big kahuna

Mar 5, 12 12:03

Post #170 of 245 (1046 views)
Re: Finally, Limbaugh screws himself [Mojozenmaster] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Mojozenmaster wrote:
and my point is that Righties are perfectly fine with suckling at the teat as long as the activity is within their definition of 'being responsible' - - if someone slams into the chalet while skiing down the bunny hill and breaks their leg - is that being responsible? Righties are happy with the teat as long as they get to draw the lines.

You mistake me: I'm not sure I want any teat, other than that which is absolutely necessary. We've got a duty and an obligation to help those who can't help themselves, and I want to (and often do) help the helpless. I'm tired of helping the clueless, though, and that's what liberals and so-called 'compassionate' conservatives have been doing too much of these last 50 years or so.

Me, I'd be fine with it if we eliminated every single deduction in the tax code just in the interest of fairness. The mortgage deduction? Fine, toss it. The earned income tax credit? That needs to go as well. We've raised entire generations of entitlement hounds through all of that stuff. Social Security? Means test it and adjust payouts accordingly. We're engaged in massive generational theft right now, in which we're stealing from the relatively-not-well-off younger generations to give to the relatively-well-off older generations. Same with Medicare, same with Medicaid...you name it. Believe me, a realignment is coming whether we like it or not. The only thing we can really do is to try to dictate the broad outlines of that realignment, and that's about it.

Instead we're doing nothing more than just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, and becoming distracted -- like Capuchin monkeys -- by the bright, shiny objects like Sandra Fluke (of nature) and her and Limbaugh's little circus.


dave_w

Mar 5, 12 12:04

Post #171 of 245 (1043 views)
Re: Finally, Limbaugh screws himself [BarryP] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

BarryP wrote:

Quote:
Bill Maher makes money by calling Sarah Palin a cunt.



There is actually a difference. It's kind of like Chris Rock using the n-word versus you calling a bunch of black people names that they find offensive for doing things that they normally do.

And FWIW, Bill Maher has been fired before for some of the stuff he has said.



No, not at all. Maher called her a very offensive term (in any context) simply because he hates her, simply to be the pejorative it was. Limbaugh worked himself into a frenzy, following the logic he was arguing that she was asking others to pay for her sex. Ultimately having us pay her to have sex, hence his use of "whore". At least there was an over-the-edge rational way of getting there in Rush's case. Maher just hates.


big kahuna

Mar 5, 12 12:05

Post #172 of 245 (1038 views)
Re: Finally, Limbaugh screws himself [dave_w] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

dave_w wrote:
BarryP wrote:

Quote:
Bill Maher makes money by calling Sarah Palin a cunt.



There is actually a difference. It's kind of like Chris Rock using the n-word versus you calling a bunch of black people names that they find offensive for doing things that they normally do.

And FWIW, Bill Maher has been fired before for some of the stuff he has said.




No, not at all. Maher called her a very offensive term (in any context) simply because he hates her, simply to be the pejorative it was. Limbaugh worked himself into a frenzy, following the logic he was arguing that she was asking others to pay for her sex. Ultimately having us pay her to have sex, hence his use of "whore". At least there was an over-the-edge rational way of getting there in Rush's case. Maher just hates.

That's it, Dave. Speak truth to power, brah. I'm there with you. ;-)


BarryP

Mar 5, 12 12:15

Post #173 of 245 (1024 views)
Re: Finally, Limbaugh screws himself [Rodred] [In reply to] Quote | Reply


Quote:
Are you suggesting its somehow OK that Maher calls Palin names because the left somehow speaks for women so its ok because he is on their side?


Do you understand the difference between calling you a poopy head and calling Michael Jordan a nigger?


We aren't talking about a person calling a woman "a name" and another person calling a woman "a name." And FWIW, many women have gotten on Maher's case for calling her a cunt and a bimbo. And the reason Limbaugh is apologizing has aboslutely nothing to do with him feeling sorry for what he did. It's because advertisers are pulling from his show.


One is an intentionally devisive person being called cunt, which is synonous with bitch, asshole, dickhead, or any number of words that mean "genericaly bad," by a person who has a history of siding with civil rights. The other is being called a slut and whore for wanting birthcontrol covered, which implies that the 50-80% of women who want their birth control covered "indisciminately wish to sleep with lots of random strangers," by an angry white man. You can't see the difference?!!

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chainpin

Mar 5, 12 12:16

Post #174 of 245 (1018 views)
Re: Finally, Limbaugh screws himself [BarryP] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

I don't get your Chris Rock analogy either.

"I really wish you would post more often. You always have some good stuff to say. I copied it below just in case someone missed it." BarryP to Chainpin on 10/21/06



Dreadnought

Mar 5, 12 12:19

Post #175 of 245 (1011 views)
Re: Finally, Limbaugh screws himself [BarryP] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

For what it's worth, in my opinion, they were both out of line.

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