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Quel
Feb 27, 12 12:22
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He traveled down to Daytona to show he was a plain old Real American...then did this:
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One reporter asked him if he followed racing.
Not as closely as some of the most ardent fans, but I have some great friends who are NASCAR team owners",Romney answered.
Romney also told a group of fans wearing plastic ponchos: "I like those fancy raincoats you bought. Really sprung for the big bucks."
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Feb 27, 12 12:24
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I love it. "Some of my best friends are NASCAR owners!"
You can't make this stuff up.
"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."
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Feb 27, 12 12:32
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That does it... bring on the higher taxes, higher debt, and higher unemployement. We can't have an idiot like that running the country. No siree!
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Feb 27, 12 12:37
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vitus979 wrote:
I love it. "Some of my best friends are NASCAR owners!"
You can't make this stuff up.
So what are you trying to point out? That he is rich, that he is successful, so he hangs around other rich and successful people? Oh I get it, your trying to point out that he is rich and successful which in today's America is unAmerican. Instead of striving to be like him (rich and successful) we should villify and ridicule him. That concerns me more. But would you point out the same thing about Barak Obama and his surregates. Berry Obama whose campaign and administration staff is on record saying that his thinking is beyond all of ours
White House senior adviser and longtime Obama friend Valerie Jarrett: "I think Barack knew that he had God-given talents that were extraordinary. He knows exactly how smart he is. ... He knows how perceptive he is. He knows what a good reader of people he is. And he knows that he has the ability -- the extraordinary, uncanny ability -- to take a thousand different perspectives, digest them and make sense out of them, and I think that he has never really been challenged intellectually. ... So what I sensed in him was not just a restless spirit but somebody with such extraordinary talents that had to be really taxed in order for him to be happy. ... He's been bored to death his whole life. He's just too talented to do what ordinary people do."
A real man of the people.
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Feb 27, 12 12:37
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So Romney would be your hero if he was friends with NASCAR
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Republicans lose no matter what they say. If Romney was an actual NASCAR fan he'd be considered a hayseed redneck, not fit for office. Romney knows some owners so he's what? Successful? Can't have that.
Meanwhile Obama is hanging out in LA with Spielberg and Geffen. Ho Hum.
Edit to ad: Yeah, kinda stupid for Romney to say. He should've just answered "No, not a fan of NASCAR".
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Feb 27, 12 12:38
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I still might vote for Romney but man, does he shoot himself in the foot - repeatedly.
He really is out of touch on the wealth thing. He grew up in the .001% and got richer later in life. I like the "my wife drives a couple of Cadilacs" comment. In the neighborhood he grew up in, the folks driving Cadilacs got them free because they were execs at GM. So, as far as he sees it, Cadilacs are a sign of being a working stiff!
big kahuna
Feb 27, 12 12:41
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Old Hickory wrote:
That does it... bring on the higher taxes, higher debt, and higher unemployement. We can't have an idiot like that running the country. No siree!
Lame attempt at stirring populist fervor and class warfare. ;-) But folks here in the LR -- well, a certain class of them, at any rate -- forget: most Americans don't hate the rich. Nope, they want to
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the rich, someday. Unfortunately, we got a guv'mint right now trying its hardest to put up roadblocks to eventual riches for many. All to make us more dependent on old Uncle Sugar and his magic paid-for-by-50.5%-of-all-Americans (the ones paying taxes) teat, right? (LOL!)
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Feb 27, 12 12:41
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I still might vote for Romney but man, does he shoot himself in the foot - repeatedly.
He really is out of touch on the wealth thing. He grew up in the .001% and got richer later in life. I like the "my wife drives a couple of Cadilacs" comment. In the neighborhood he grew up in, the folks driving Cadilacs got them free because they were execs at GM. So, as far as he sees it, Cadilacs are a sign of being a working stiff!
Cadillacs are pretty low on the totem pole in my neighborhood.
We really need to start aiming higher.
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Feb 27, 12 12:45
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I still don't understand why this is an issue beyond a head scratch or comic relief. This is especially amusing coming from democrats whose gods of the democratic party like FDR, JFK, Johnson, and RFK were all raised with a silver spoon and couldn't possibly relate to the average man without being coached. It is a non-issue and if that is the attack the dems are rolling with, than Romney should come out and say I made money and I earned it. I've used that wealth to give back without taking from another. And in the America I envision and want to create, your success will only be limited by your imagination.
Instead, we listen to Obama talk of our unrealistic expectation and that we should accept mediocre success like just paying for the mortgage, not going bankrupt etc. Yet his dreams were limitless. So why should yours be?
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Feb 27, 12 12:51
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You also have to keep in mind that Mitt's dad ran American Motors so poor Mitt had to drive a (free) Rambler to high school.
Actually, in the tiny universe he grew up in, he was not a "1%" er. His dad ran a car company that was not even part of "The Big Three." Mitt grew up with the kids who's dad's where in the big leagues. He probably holds deep seated resentments agaist the kids that got to drive Cadilacs to high school. He may, in some perverted way, actually be a "man of the people" with feelings towards the downtrodden. Its just that his people are the the folks who can only afford Cadilacs, not S class Mercedes ;-)
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Feb 27, 12 12:54
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Why does everyone expect a rich person - much less someone with F'you money - to act anything but rich. If I were Mitt, I would have said something like ... "A fan of NASCAR? These races are what, 3-4-5 hours long? Do you know how much money I have to count in a day just to keep up with my taxes?!"
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Feb 27, 12 12:57
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STP wrote:
You also have to keep in mind that Mitt's dad ran American Motors so poor Mitt had to drive a (free) Rambler to high school.
Actually, in the tiny universe he grew up in, he was not a "1%" er. His dad ran a car company that was not even part of "The Big Three." Mitt grew up with the kids who's dad's where in the big leagues. He probably holds deep seated resentments agaist the kids that got to drive Cadilacs to high school. He may, in some perverted way, actually be a "man of the people" with feelings towards the downtrodden. Its just that his people are the the folks who can only afford Cadilacs, not S class Mercedes ;-)
Hey, now. I had a '66 Rambler station wagon in high school that was painted sky blue on the outside and had that red fabric for the bench seats on the inside, along with red vinyl floors. It had a straight-six and the windshield wipers worked off a vacuum canister thing that had to build up enough pressure to power them, which was rare. But gas was about .65 a gallon back then and it ran decent so I loved the thing. :-)
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Feb 27, 12 12:58
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It is a non-issue and if that is the attack the dems are rolling with, than Romney should come out and say I made money and I earned it.
That would be great. Unfortunately (and I may even vote for him tomorrow so I'm not a lefty) he does say things that suggest he has no clue how the world works for the vast majority of Americans. That doesn't bother me since what kind of car he and his wife buy doesn't mean anything about whether he is qualifed to run the country and his job as president is not to make me feel good about what kind of raingear I wear to a NASCAR race. But, He's made enough crazy wealth related statements that, in fairness to the other side, I think this is legit area to attack him on. It will hurt his chances to win in November. Therefore, it is a big deal and it would be best if he stopped saying these stupid things.
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Feb 27, 12 13:01
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Not as closely as some of the most ardent fans, but I have some great friends who are NASCAR team owners",Romney answered.
Would you rather he lie? I really don't get the obsession. He's wealthy, big deal. I don't recall him trying to distance himself from that fact, did he? How many of your friends are on welfare? How many of your friends own multi-million dollar homes in different states? I would imagine that the answer depends on what your status is. He associates with people like him? *HORRORS*
The second comment, about "plastic ponchos" sounds like it was taken entirely out of context. No one could be that stupid...well, maybe he could.
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Feb 27, 12 13:09
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Duffy wrote:
Cadillacs are pretty low on the totem pole in my neighborhood.
We really need to start aiming higher.
Yep. Driving a Cadillac is on par with wearing a plastic poncho as a rain coat.
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Feb 27, 12 13:10
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I think he is trying to point out that Mitt is the modern version of Dan Quayle.
"They are all crooks, both sides of the aisle."
Quel
Feb 27, 12 13:11
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Would you rather he lie? I really don't get the obsession. He's wealthy, big deal. I don't recall him trying to distance himself from that fact, did he? How many of your friends are on welfare? How many of your friends own multi-million dollar homes in different states? I would imagine that the answer depends on what your status is. He associates with people like him? *HORRORS*
The second comment, about "plastic ponchos" sounds like it was taken entirely out of context. No one could be that stupid...well, maybe he could.
I thought the second quote was much worse, so I'm surprised people focused more on the first one.
If you are a politician and aren't a fan of NASCAR, no problem. Don't go to the Daytona 500. Or go and pretend to be a fan. I wasn't trying to make that a class warfare thing. Hell, I hate NASCAR too. But it's just dumb politics. I don't understand why he went down there if he was going to say things like that.
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Feb 27, 12 13:11
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What I see is the hypocracy rampant amongst all cadidates trying to pretend they are the 99%. Granted, some have started from more humble beginnings, like Clinton, but you don't get to the point of running for President unless you have made some bank and have a big name school on your resume. By that time most are pretty far removed from the childhoods.
Romney is making a fool of himself, like all the others. His smart response would have been something along the lines of not having watched much of it in the past but is really enjoying the day.
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Feb 27, 12 13:13
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The problems with the "I have friends who are NASCAR team owners" are many. They almost all stem from what he chose to talk about. The guy is just a hamfisted polician.
Most notably, there are about 100 things you can say about NASCAR that would fit into his campaign themes so he wasted an opportunity. Even if you just want to get off a soundbite about team owners, how about pointing out that almost all of them are entrepreneurs who have built up businesses that employ a couple hundred employees each. A NASCAR team is about as american self starting smallish business as you can get. The whole NASCAR extravaganza is a great free enterprise story. Heck, you could even get in a dig at estate taxes and talk about the trouble Dale Jr and Mrs Earnhart had hanging onto the DEI team after Dale Sr. was "kill't right over there in turn 3."
The problem with Mitt is it is almost impossible for a thinking politician to go to the Daytona 500 and f' it up but he managed to do it.
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Feb 27, 12 13:14
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JenSw wrote:
His smart response would have been something along the lines of not having watched much of it in the past but is really enjoying the day.
Bingo.
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Feb 27, 12 13:15
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Couldn't agree more. If you can't relate, don't pretend that you do. Or, turn it around and acknowledge that you no little/nothing about the sport, treat the spectators like the experts, ask smart questions....and, voila, you'll earn their respect and possibly their vote.
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Feb 27, 12 13:17
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending the stupidity of his comments. Because, yeah, you do have friends who are owners - doesn't mean you trumpet that fact. And, you rightfully point out, that he blew an awesome opportunity to bring himself down from that lofty-rich guy-perch that he is from and relate. His inability to do that is a big concern in the long-run.
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Dan Quayle was fodder for other reasons. He attacked the social value of specific television shows and pop culture, so when he misspelled potato, it was just a softball. Everybody gets why Romney might not get it, he is rich. If you were rich, which many americans strive to be, you wouldn't either. Heck, if you are middle class you most don't try to act ghetto or understand the lives of those living in the innercity with any significence. Dan Quayle came accross like Santorum. Like somebody who belonged in Puritan New England, putting witches on trial. That is odd to most Americans.
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Feb 27, 12 13:21
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Well, he could have said that he has some friends who were domestic terrorists in a previous life - but hopefully that would have been a lie.
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rick_pcfl wrote:
Duffy wrote:
Cadillacs are pretty low on the totem pole in my neighborhood.
We really need to start aiming higher.
Yep. Driving a Cadillac is on par with wearing a plastic poncho as a rain coat.
My wife hates them (ponchos and Cadillacs, but not "Guitars and Cadillacs" ;-). I was looking at one of those CTS models (the souped-up ones) back in late '08, and she said "Only old men drive them." Ouch! That one hurt, considering it was Cadillacs and Fords and Chevys that made this town great when I was growing up. But she was kinda right: All the Caddies I ever saw on the highways around here, for a time, featured a little old guy behind the wheel, and he was always wearing a hat.
So Ann Romney's got a couple of them? So what? Like I said, most folks I know would LOVE to be in that position, and everything we're polling tells us most people aren't holding Romney's wealth against him. Actually, they're looking at Romney and figuring that here's a guy who knows what to do to put things right, economy wise. Obama? Meh...not so much.
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