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SCOTTinNJ

Aug 19, 11 11:17

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Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update? Quote | Reply

Per the release information from the Vector, Garmin is providing on screen NP, IF, and TSS in the 500/800. Anyone see anything on when this firmware update will be made?


http://garmin.blogs.com/...e-with-vector-1.html


Get an ‘Edge’ on the competition: For users already using a Garmin Edge® 800 or Edge 500 cycling computer, adding a Vector power meter will take their training to the next level. Not only will the Edge display total power, left and right leg power, and cadence, it will now also display in real-time the widely adopted power metrics from TrainingPeaks™: Normalized Power (NP ™), Intensity Factor (IF ™) and Training Stress Score (TSS ™). The Edge 800 adds a new interval summary page to enhance the power-based training experience.



Edited to add the page with updates. Nothing yet. http://www8.garmin.com/..._details.jsp?id=4715







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w01fy

Oct 8, 11 12:53

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Re: Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update? [SCOTTinNJ] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

i had read the firm was was end of september but that hasn't turned up.

i did get to play with the vectors though, with a garmin edge 800 with the updated firmware (firmware date was 16th of september or something)....

I do want NP, TSS etc, as i do wonder why at the end of intervals im buggered, but then when you see the NP for an hour is around by FTP it makes sense!


-Mike-

Oct 8, 11 13:21

Post #3 of 90 (9100 views)
Re: Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update? [w01fy] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

I just updated my 500 last night and was really hoping for NP and TSS, but it was not present as an option :(


w01fy

Oct 8, 11 14:53

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Re: Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update? [-Mike-] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

the latest 500 firmware is from May which explains why no NP yet


dcrainmaker

Oct 8, 11 15:39

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Re: Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update? [w01fy] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Yeah, at InterBike they initially said 500/800/310XT by end of Sept, but then corrected that to note that it was going to be 800 first, then 500, then 310XT - all happening pretty quickly after one another. I suspect we'll see the 800 update in the next week or two, then from there as announced.

There was a bit of 'all hands on deck' related to some of the 910XT stuff in recent weeks, likely diverting some resources temporarily. I suspect that'll continue until 910XT public release.

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cyclingdoc

Oct 8, 11 19:05

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Re: Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update? [dcrainmaker] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

dcrainmaker, I was just about to ask for your input on update status. so, thanks for the update. looking for the edge 500 update. I was going to buy a new joule to get NP, so this is great news about the garmin devices.


CCF

Oct 24, 11 16:54

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Re: Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update? [dcrainmaker] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Hope this update comes in the near future, I'd love to have NP, etc, for IMAZ in four weeks.
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Fred D

Oct 24, 11 16:58

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Re: Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update? [CCF] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

CCF wrote:
Hope this update comes in the near future, I'd love to have NP, etc, for IMAZ in four weeks.

Update just came in for the Garmin 800 firmware. 500 not ready yet.

Here is a view of my screen:



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CCF

Oct 24, 11 17:03

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Re: Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update? [Fred Doucette] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

That's awesome, hope to see the 500 soon!
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jfambrozic

Oct 24, 11 17:16

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Re: Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update? [Fred Doucette] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Sweet..thanks for update...just uploaded mine!

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trislice

Oct 24, 11 17:37

Post #11 of 90 (8663 views)
Re: Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update? [Fred Doucette] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Wouldn't only NP change how you raced, and really wouldn't make much of a difference unless the course was hilly?


jmX

Oct 24, 11 18:10

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Re: Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update? [trislice] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

I hope this fixes the bug on the 800 where it displays "_ _ _ _" as your accumulated elevation gain once you pass 10,000 ft climbed in a ride.


stikman

Oct 24, 11 19:35

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Re: Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update? [jmX] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

You could always switch to metric units. You'd have the benefit of showing more than 3 times the elevation and join the rest of the world in the 21st century. Plus, as an added bonus it always sounds like you're going faster!


IKnowEverything

Oct 24, 11 19:44

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Re: Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update? [jmX] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

From what I understand, instead of displaying "-------", it now displays "Get off your bike already, 10,000' in a single ride is absurd".


jmX

Oct 24, 11 20:11

Post #15 of 90 (8518 views)
Re: Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update? [stikman] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

stikman wrote:
You could always switch to metric units. You'd have the benefit of showing more than 3 times the elevation and join the rest of the world in the 21st century. Plus, as an added bonus it always sounds like you're going faster!

Yeah, eventually I will. I hear the US will be switching to metric by 1990.

Anyway, applied the update and at the activity totals report screen shows the elevation gain. Won't know about the live display until next time I head to the mountains.


dcrainmaker

Oct 24, 11 20:17

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Re: Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update? [CCF] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

The Edge 500 and 310XT will be next.

For those looking for a boatload of screenshots, as well as all the data fields added, see this post.

Also note that it's not just TSS/IF/NP added, but also the new lap summary screen - which is pretty cool, very joule-like. And left/right power for those PM's that will support it. And the ability to now store up to 5 bikes in the unit.

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Dopers.Suck

Oct 25, 11 4:24

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Re: Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update? [dcrainmaker] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Does the 910xt have TSS, normalized and IF options?

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Racing2t2

Oct 25, 11 5:42

Post #18 of 90 (8358 views)
Re: Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update? [SCOTTinNJ] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Does anyone know if there is a way to check tss and np on the garmin device for previous rides saved on the device itself?


PSolver

Oct 25, 11 6:41

Post #19 of 90 (8313 views)
Re: Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update? [Racing2t2] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Hi- great information on this thread, thanks!

Can you tell me if there is a way to review "Peak Power" for 5s, 30s, 1min., 5min., 20min, etc. during the ride like there is on the Joule?


dcrainmaker

Oct 25, 11 6:44

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Re: Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update? [SLOW&STEADY] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

SLOW&STEADY wrote:
Does the 910xt have TSS, normalized and IF options?

Thanks


Yes, it will by release.

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dcrainmaker

Oct 25, 11 6:46

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Re: Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update? [PSolver] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

PSolver wrote:
Hi- great information on this thread, thanks!

Can you tell me if there is a way to review "Peak Power" for 5s, 30s, 1min., 5min., 20min, etc. during the ride like there is on the Joule?

No, not today.

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dcrainmaker

Oct 25, 11 6:46

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Re: Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update? [Racing2t2] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Racing2t2 wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a way to check tss and np on the garmin device for previous rides saved on the device itself?

No, previous rides are not calculated.

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SCOTTinNJ

Oct 25, 11 8:37

Post #23 of 90 (8258 views)
Re: Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update? [dcrainmaker] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

dcrainmaker wrote:
Racing2t2 wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a way to check tss and np on the garmin device for previous rides saved on the device itself?


No, previous rides are not calculated.

But you should be able to download that information into software like cyclops poweragent to get the data you are looking for.


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SCOTTinNJ

Oct 25, 11 8:37

Post #24 of 90 (8256 views)
Re: Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update? [dcrainmaker] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

dcrainmaker wrote:
PSolver wrote:
Hi- great information on this thread, thanks!

Can you tell me if there is a way to review "Peak Power" for 5s, 30s, 1min., 5min., 20min, etc. during the ride like there is on the Joule?


No, not today.

Same thing. Poweragent.


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jmh

Oct 25, 11 8:40

Post #25 of 90 (8251 views)
Re: Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update? [dcrainmaker] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

I saw that the 800 will store 5 bike profiles.

Do you know if the firmware update will allow the 500 to store more than the 3 it currently stores?


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