Hi There

Was just surfing the web and drooling over the new Shiv as ridden by Crowie at Kona.
Does anyone know if Cervelo has anything in the pipe line similar to the new Shiv that will have full integrated DI2 and if so when.(I know the P4 is close in design to the Shiv but dosent support fully integrated and internal cabling).
I am the owner of a P3 which I love but would like to upgrade to DI2 with internal cabling but with the fueleselage on the new Shiv and with fully integrated DI2 if you so want that is nearly a deal breaker for me.
Cervelo dont seem to have done much over the last few years where others have and was wondering if they have something new in the pipeline.
Jonboy

drag wise I call it a dead tie between the top 4 bikes
but di2 integration is something rich people are going to want

and maybe even the middle class soon =)

Agreed re the BMC, which is why I pulled trigger & ordered a TM01 for December/January delivery. I wish it had the bladder, as all I am doing in 2012 is time trials & don't need (want) a water bottle, just max aero benefit.

I think it is going to reach a point, very soon (likely already there), where the real-world differences in the actual "aeroness" of these bikes is going to be minimal. A P4 w/its bottle is probably faster than the Shiv TT in the tunnel. In the real world, where the rider has to reach down to drink 3-4x in a 40k tt vs the bladder straw---more than makes up for any slight gain that the P4 frame has over the STT.

I wish the BMC had an integrated bladder....and who knows, if there is room in the frame mine may end up with one anyway. Anyone know if Specialized is going to be selling replacement bladders for their Shiv TT anytime soon?

In the real world, where the rider has to reach down to drink 3-4x in a 40k tt ...

Hmmm...IMHO, if you're having to drink that much in a 40K TT, then you need to:

a.) rethink your training
b.) rethink how you carry small amounts of liquid (if it's just to get rid of "cotton mouth")

Seriously. I've done 40K TTs in the desert with no fluids on board whatsoever. The last one I did I had a small gel flask filled with a carb solution velcro'd to my stem just to rinse the carb solution in my mouth every so often.

If it's hot enough to require significant fluids in a 40K TT (more than that gel flask), I'm going to be putting on a Racebak filled with ice under my skinsuit anyway ;-)

Bottles on a TT bike? What bottles??

Best thing to do is to repeat the experiment. Try doing a 40km ride every day without the liquid, then immediately follow with a 40km ride with liquid. Do this every day until your next race season. Then race either with or without the liquid, bet you aren't mediocre anymore ;-).