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SCOTTinNJ
Aug 19, 11 11:17
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Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update?
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Per the release information from the Vector, Garmin is providing on screen NP, IF, and TSS in the 500/800. Anyone see anything on when this firmware update will be made?
http://garmin.blogs.com/...e-with-vector-1.html
Get an ‘Edge’ on the competition:
For users
already using
a Garmin Edge® 800 or Edge 500 cycling computer, adding a Vector power meter will take their training to the next level. Not only will the Edge display total power, left and right leg power, and cadence, it will now also display in real-time the widely adopted power metrics from TrainingPeaks™: Normalized Power (NP ™), Intensity Factor (IF ™) and Training Stress Score (TSS ™). The Edge 800 adds a new interval summary page to enhance the power-based training experience.
Edited to add the page with updates. Nothing yet.
http://www8.garmin.com/..._details.jsp?id=4715
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w01fy
Oct 8, 11 12:53
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i had read the firm was was end of september but that hasn't turned up.
i did get to play with the vectors though, with a garmin edge 800 with the updated firmware (firmware date was 16th of september or something)....
I do want NP, TSS etc, as i do wonder why at the end of intervals im buggered, but then when you see the NP for an hour is around by FTP it makes sense!
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Oct 8, 11 13:21
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Re: Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update? [w01fy]
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I just updated my 500 last night and was really hoping for NP and TSS, but it was not present as an option :(
w01fy
Oct 8, 11 14:53
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the latest 500 firmware is from May which explains why no NP yet
dcrainmaker
Oct 8, 11 15:39
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Re: Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update? [w01fy]
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Yeah, at InterBike they initially said 500/800/310XT by end of Sept, but then corrected that to note that it was going to be 800 first, then 500, then 310XT - all happening pretty quickly after one another. I suspect we'll see the 800 update in the next week or two, then from there as announced.
There was a bit of 'all hands on deck' related to some of the 910XT stuff in recent weeks, likely diverting some resources temporarily. I suspect that'll continue until 910XT public release.
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cyclingdoc
Oct 8, 11 19:05
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dcrainmaker, I was just about to ask for your input on update status. so, thanks for the update. looking for the edge 500 update. I was going to buy a new joule to get NP, so this is great news about the garmin devices.
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Oct 24, 11 16:54
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Hope this update comes in the near future, I'd love to have NP, etc, for IMAZ in four weeks.
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Oct 24, 11 16:58
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CCF wrote:
Hope this update comes in the near future, I'd love to have NP, etc, for IMAZ in four weeks.
Update just came in for the Garmin 800 firmware. 500 not ready yet.
Here is a view of my screen:
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CCF
Oct 24, 11 17:03
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That's awesome, hope to see the 500 soon!
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Oct 24, 11 17:16
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Re: Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update? [Fred Doucette]
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Sweet..thanks for update...just uploaded mine!
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trislice
Oct 24, 11 17:37
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Wouldn't only NP change how you raced, and really wouldn't make much of a difference unless the course was hilly?
jmX
Oct 24, 11 18:10
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I hope this fixes the bug on the 800 where it displays "_ _ _ _" as your accumulated elevation gain once you pass 10,000 ft climbed in a ride.
stikman
Oct 24, 11 19:35
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You could always switch to metric units. You'd have the benefit of showing more than 3 times the elevation and join the rest of the world in the 21st century. Plus, as an added bonus it always sounds like you're going faster!
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Oct 24, 11 19:44
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From what I understand, instead of displaying "-------", it now displays "Get off your bike already, 10,000' in a single ride is absurd".
jmX
Oct 24, 11 20:11
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stikman wrote:
You could always switch to metric units. You'd have the benefit of showing more than 3 times the elevation and join the rest of the world in the 21st century. Plus, as an added bonus it always sounds like you're going faster!
Yeah, eventually I will. I hear the US will be switching to metric by 1990.
Anyway, applied the update and at the activity totals report screen shows the elevation gain. Won't know about the live display until next time I head to the mountains.
dcrainmaker
Oct 24, 11 20:17
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The Edge 500 and 310XT will be next.
For those looking for a boatload of screenshots, as well as all the data fields added, see
this post
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Also note that it's not just TSS/IF/NP added, but also the new lap summary screen - which is pretty cool, very joule-like. And left/right power for those PM's that will support it. And the ability to now store up to 5 bikes in the unit.
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Dopers.Suck
Oct 25, 11 4:24
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Does the 910xt have TSS, normalized and IF options?
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Oct 25, 11 5:42
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Does anyone know if there is a way to check tss and np on the garmin device for previous rides saved on the device itself?
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Oct 25, 11 6:41
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Hi- great information on this thread, thanks!
Can you tell me if there is a way to review "Peak Power" for 5s, 30s, 1min., 5min., 20min, etc. during the ride like there is on the Joule?
dcrainmaker
Oct 25, 11 6:44
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SLOW&STEADY wrote:
Does the 910xt have TSS, normalized and IF options?
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Yes, it will by release.
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Oct 25, 11 6:46
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PSolver wrote:
Hi- great information on this thread, thanks!
Can you tell me if there is a way to review "Peak Power" for 5s, 30s, 1min., 5min., 20min, etc. during the ride like there is on the Joule?
No, not today.
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Oct 25, 11 6:46
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Racing2t2 wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a way to check tss and np on the garmin device for previous rides saved on the device itself?
No, previous rides are not calculated.
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SCOTTinNJ
Oct 25, 11 8:37
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dcrainmaker wrote:
Racing2t2 wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a way to check tss and np on the garmin device for previous rides saved on the device itself?
No, previous rides are not calculated.
But you should be able to download that information into software like cyclops poweragent to get the data you are looking for.
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SCOTTinNJ
Oct 25, 11 8:37
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dcrainmaker wrote:
PSolver wrote:
Hi- great information on this thread, thanks!
Can you tell me if there is a way to review "Peak Power" for 5s, 30s, 1min., 5min., 20min, etc. during the ride like there is on the Joule?
No, not today.
Same thing. Poweragent.
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Oct 25, 11 8:40
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Re: Garmin 500/800 NP, IF, TSS firmware update? [dcrainmaker]
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I saw that the 800 will store 5 bike profiles.
Do you know if the firmware update will allow the 500 to store more than the 3 it currently stores?
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