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FJB

Jun 9, 10 12:12

Post #51 of 86 (1926 views)

Re: walk an IM? [saltman] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

Sorry man, I am sick and tired of people telling me it was a mental choice to walk that marathon. Bullshit, you have no idea what I was going through and knowing this I am sure others have had similar problems.

But you didn't plan on walking which is quite different than someone going into the race with the intent to walk the marathon.

My comment was directed at those who have absolutely no intention of running (through injury or other reason). At that point, you have to question why go into a triathlon at all.

ChrisM

Jun 9, 10 12:18

Post #52 of 86 (1920 views)

Re: walk an IM? [FJB] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

Yeah, that old jackass Bill Bell has no business being out there walking the IM run. loser

[/sarcasm]

jen jen

Jun 9, 10 12:24

Post #53 of 86 (1914 views)

Re: walk an IM? [onyouright] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

Sure. Due to bad IT bands, I ran 4 and walked 22 at Florida. Run time was 5:55. One hour swim, six hour bike, walked marathon and was done in 13:09.

Jen
http://3athletejen.blogspot.com/

rcmioga

Jun 9, 10 12:25

Post #54 of 86 (1912 views)

Re: walk an IM? [onyouright] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

I tore my medial meniscus 3 weeks before IM Western Australia in 2005. I was unable to run more than about 100 yards without intense pain. However, I seemed to be able to walk ok.

This was to be my son's first IM and we had everything booked (from Philadelphia) so we went. I decided to bring my stuff and do it anyways (i was in great shape). I walked the course in 6:32 (and probably could have done 6;15) and ended up with a 13 and change.

I wouldn't recommend it unless you have to it. I had the weirdest blisters and I felt more beat up than when i run them. Everyone along the course encourages you to get going so you have to deal with that....it's definitely doable.

I'm fortunate enough to still be able to race them but if I could only walk then I could see doing them from time to time--especially with a gourp of friends--this would be just an experience and not a race. I recently climbed a couple of big =mountains and it strikes me that walking an IM marathon would be somewhat akin to that...it's all about finishing safely, not how fast you go.

Randy Christofferson(http://www.rcmioga.blogspot.com)

Someday I won't be able to do this, but today is not that day!

saltman

Jun 9, 10 12:43

Post #55 of 86 (1887 views)

Re: walk an IM? [FJB] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

Yeah, I hear you FJB, I didn't think you were directing the comment towards me. I don't see myself ever intentionally walking it. I won't discourage others from doing so, but its not my cup o tea and I just wanted to give the OP my perspective. I have talked to 6-7 people that have had similar experiences and I have yet to meet someone that ever wants to do it again. If that was the only option I had before the start of the race, I am not getting out of bed.

My .02 cents, it fucking sucks way worse than running, even if you are running an 11-12 minute/mile pace.

FJB

Jun 9, 10 12:48

Post #56 of 86 (1881 views)

Re: walk an IM? [ChrisM] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

Yeah, that old jackass Bill Bell has no business being out there walking the IM run. loser

Why do people always take the extreme examples to make a point?

I trained with a group when I did my last IM and there were one lady that never ran a step simply because she didn't want to train that much (she didn't want to train much but was doing an IM !!!!) and hated running. She only biked and did the occasional swim. She set off on the marathon to walk and walked every step finishing about 9 minutes under the cutoff time (she was a very good cyclist and decent swimmer).

I asked her why she bothered doing triathlons (particularly IM's) if she hated running so much, why not just become a cyclist and her response was "because I always wanted to do an IM."

Now you obviously support her but I think it's ridiculous.

ChrisM

Jun 9, 10 12:53

Post #57 of 86 (1876 views)

Re: walk an IM? [FJB] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

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OK, Sorry, I must have misread your opinion that you should not go into an IM if you intend to walk. Apparently you only believe that if they don't live up to some other standard of yours. What's the difference between Bill Bell at IMAZ 2008 (he knew he wasn't going to run, and I believe DNF'd) and the woman in your example?

Yes, I support anyone who's got the $550 and who wants to do an IM. Unlike others, I tend not to judge other people's reasons for doing things. Someone finishing in 16:51 is just as much an ironman as I was at 12:45, or bryancd at 9:30, whether they walked or ran. I am entitled to believe that, and you are entitled to believe it's ridiculous.

gregtryin

Jun 9, 10 13:21

Post #58 of 86 (1844 views)

Re: walk an IM? [surfnrun] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

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Don't take up the slots for the people that actually want to do an IM...this is why they fill and people who are more serious about it, or want to make more of a commitment to the sport, can't get into races. It's a race, maybe against yourself, and sometimes you do have to walk because it is HARD. But to go into it planning on walking means you should find something more aligned with your goals.

If the people that 'actually want to do an IM...' are actually committed, then they should to make the tiny little effort to get on the internet when registration opens and beat out all of those worthless AG'ers, non-elites, and generally useless people that diminish the entire sport by their very participation in it. It's a shame all of the committed super jocks 'can't get into races' by registering whenever they damn well please after they finish recovering on the couch from their 200-mile training rides. What my Dad told me is true: Life Isn't Fair. I am sorry for all of those guys, no really, I am...;-)

Greg

bhc

Jun 9, 10 13:25

Post #59 of 86 (1836 views)

Re: walk an IM? [FJB] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

There are several legitimate reasons why people walk during an IM
- Injury/distress during the event does not allow them to run
- Injury prior to the event but they trained hard and want to do it anyway
- Plan to walk 1 minute - run 10 minutes (that's how they train)
- Physical handicap that prevents running

Those are all legitimate reason for walking the marathon (or portions of it) and I don't think anyone is saying that it deminishes the achievement of the athlete. My hat is off to you for persevering. IMO you are an IM. Completing any tri, whether it is a sprint or an IM, is an accomplishment.

But, going into a tri planning to walk the run leg is different, it is a fraud. A triathlon is Swim-Bike-Run NOT Swim-Bike-Walk. If you want to go around telling people that you completed a tri, you are a liar. You did not. You completed two legs of the tri and went for a long walk afterwards.

Go ahead and flame all you want. You are not fooling anyone but yourself (and perhaps those that you try to impress by telling them you are an IM).

FJB - not directed at you

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(This post was edited by mtnvet on Jun 9, 10 13:30)

CamR

Jun 9, 10 13:39

Post #60 of 86 (1818 views)

Re: walk an IM? [mtnvet] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

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A triathlon is Swim-Bike-Run NOT Swim-Bike-Walk.

USAT seems to disagree with you--"6.1 Permitted Conduct. A participant must run or walk the entire portion of the run course."

ChrisM

Jun 9, 10 13:42

Post #61 of 86 (1816 views)

Re: walk an IM? [mtnvet] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

Huh?

This:

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Makes no sense when compared with this:

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But, going into a tri planning to walk the run leg is different, it is a fraud. A triathlon is Swim-Bike-Run NOT Swim-Bike-Walk. If you want to go around telling people that you completed a tri, you are a liar. You did not. You completed two legs of the tri and went for a long walk afterwards.

Go ahead and flame all you want. You are not fooling anyone but yourself (and perhaps those that you try to impress by telling them you are an IM).

FJB - not directed at you

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Being physically unable to run going into a tri is OK and you "are an IM", but going in intending to walk (while physically unable to run) is a fraud and "you are not an IM"? wha?

(This post was edited by ChrisM on Jun 9, 10 13:43)

gregtryin

Jun 9, 10 15:44

Post #62 of 86 (1761 views)

Re: walk an IM? [ChrisM] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

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Huh?

This:

In Reply To:

Makes no sense when compared with this:

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Being physically unable to run going into a tri is OK and you "are an IM", but going in intending to walk (while physically unable to run) is a fraud and "you are not an IM"? wha?

Well, you know, to be a TRUE IRONMAN, you must be fit in body AND soul. Going in with the intention to walk is bad and you are not a good person. But, if you intended to run and end up walking for whatever reason, it is OK and you can still be a TRUE IRONMAN. Next year, there will be another column added to the results lists that indicates whether the athlete had good intentions or not so you will be able to separate the TRUE IRONMEN from the posers. It will come in handy, surely.

Greg

FJB

Jun 9, 10 15:52

Post #63 of 86 (1755 views)

Re: walk an IM? [ChrisM] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

Being physically unable to run going into a tri is OK and you "are an IM", but going in intending to walk (while physically unable to run) is a fraud and "you are not an IM"? wha?

I think you know his intended meaning without trying to split hairs.

(This post was edited by FJB on Jun 9, 10 15:53)

paul_tx

Jun 9, 10 15:58

Post #64 of 86 (1741 views)

Re: walk an IM? [FJB] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

Frankly I think you're a winner just for signing up. That's all it takes to impress me.

ChrisM

Jun 9, 10 16:04

Post #65 of 86 (1736 views)

Re: walk an IM? [FJB] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

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Actually, I don't. It's probably me, but the two parts of the post are completely at odds and make no sense.

Would I go into an IM intending to walk? Nope, but that's just because it would bore the living shit out of me to walk for that long. I've walked a 5K with friends, that was quite enough. Can't imagine 26.2 of it. But if others want to, what the fuck do I care?

ETA - Sweet! I've made yellowdawg's ... I mean Paul's sig line. Guy's had a boner for me for years apparently. 'Bout time he gives me props

(This post was edited by ChrisM on Jun 9, 10 16:04)

FJB

Jun 9, 10 16:05

Post #66 of 86 (1733 views)

Re: walk an IM? [paul_tx] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

Frankly I think you're a winner just for signing up.

And the striving for mediocrity continues.............

paul_tx

Jun 9, 10 16:14

Post #67 of 86 (1720 views)

Re: walk an IM? [ChrisM] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

"ETA - Sweet! I've made yellowdawg's ... I mean Paul's sig line. Guy's had a boner for me for years apparently. 'Bout time he gives me props"

No man, don't confuse me with your daddy. I put that ChrisM quote up there to show the ST Nation what a pompous human being you really are, I don't want it lost. Do you read what you write?

oooo

Jun 9, 10 16:17

Post #68 of 86 (1719 views)

Re: walk an IM? [FJB] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

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Frankly I think you're a winner just for signing up.

And the striving for mediocrity continues.............

Hahahaha.....

In 1995 I was a guide for the Ironman Canada bus tour and after our trip around the course,as we were heading back into I told everyone in the bus that there would be an announcement at the carbo party.The finish cut-off would be raised from 15hrs to 17hrs to be in line with Kona.There was a big cheer in the bus celebrating the news to which I responded by saying "You all came here after training for a sub 15hr finish and you should all be fit enough to finish in 15hrs so why are you cheering?It should not make any difference to anyone here".One guy then said,"it now means I can walk more if I want."To which there was another cheer.

I lost a little of my respect for Ironman that day.

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ChrisM

Jun 9, 10 16:20

Post #69 of 86 (1716 views)

Re: walk an IM? [paul_tx] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

Too funny. But i'm sure the ST nation already knows about my pomposity without your help, but thanks for the assist

linhardt

Jun 10, 10 7:41

Post #70 of 86 (1663 views)

Re: walk an IM? [saltman] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

Quote:

I should caution that I was fucking miserable walking that entire marathon. It gets long, real long.

That is my ultra weakness.

I dropped out of 100 mile run while still in the top third of the field, because I slowed down to a crawl. Until I learn how to be patient and allow the miles to come to me I fear I will DNF a number of ultras.

Swim - Bike - Run the rest is just clothing changes.

FishHog

Jun 10, 10 8:55

Post #71 of 86 (1646 views)

Re: walk an IM? [linhardt] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

wow, am I ever glad that I'm not as insecure as many of you are that you think someone walking an IM deminishes your accomplishment. Seriously, get some real problems in life to worry about. How does it matter in the slightest to you if someone walked the marathon?

Last time I read the rules, you even allowed to crawl.

all the power to you. They give you 17hrs. Make it in 17hrs and your and Ironman and should be proud. Don't let the rantings of these insecure people deter you from your goals.

For those of you worried about your finishing time, make sure the time is included in your finishing picture so you can show how great you really are.

FishHog

FJB

Jun 10, 10 10:06

Post #72 of 86 (1610 views)

Re: walk an IM? [FishHog] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

wow, am I ever glad that I'm not as insecure as many of you are that you think someone walking an IM deminishes your accomplishment.

I've read through the entire thread and have not found anyone who said that someone walking an IM diminishes their accomplishment.

For those of you worried about your finishing time, make sure the time is included in your finishing picture so you can show how great you really are.

*sigh*

FishHog

Jun 10, 10 11:16

Post #73 of 86 (1571 views)

Re: walk an IM? [FJB] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

maybe I'm reading a little between the lines, but I don't see why else anyone would care how other complete their race.

and the tone of a lot of people in this thread seem to have pretty strong opinions that you should not do the race if you can't run it.

I guess if they aren't insecure in their accomplishments they are just elitest. Either way, if people don't like the rules, they shouldn't join the race. And the rules give you 17hrs to cross that line whether you run, walk or crawl.

Maybe some of you guys should start your own race with a 10hr cut off time and call it the "Were better than the rest of you who need 17hrs Race".

FJB

Jun 10, 10 11:20

Post #74 of 86 (1568 views)

Re: walk an IM? [FishHog] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

Or, some of us think a triathlon includes a run. No one has said you cannot walk but the discussion centered around people with no intention of running.

The insecure people are those calling others elitist for simply stating what is quite obvious to some, a triathlon includes a run.

Maybe they should just change the rules and allow people to use a kayak if they don't feel like training for the swim. I know you would be okay with that since it has absolutely no impact on your race.

(This post was edited by FJB on Jun 10, 10 11:23)

FishHog

Jun 10, 10 11:32

Post #75 of 86 (1554 views)

Re: walk an IM? [FJB] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

the difference between my statement and yours is walking is allowed in the rules currently. I guess if they allowed kayaks, then I'd make my decision whether I wanted to be involved or not.

I'm quite sure there are people who can walk a marathon faster than many people run. Should they not be allowed to enter if they want?

Justify it all you want in your head, but until the change the rules, people who want to pay the money and enter the race with the intention of walking are more than welcome and should be very proud of their accomplishment. At least they aren't sitting on the couch getting fat like the majority of North Americans.

Unfortunately reading a thread like this is very likely to scare many of them off, thinking they don't belong, and I think that is sad.

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