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Horstinator

Dec 26, 08 7:51

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Hi all, any suggestions on how to keep warm in a cold indoor swimming pool? I have searched online for some kind of thermal swimwear but have not had much luck. Would prefer something that does not add a lot of bouyancy because most of my races will be without a wetsuit.
Thanks!


FLA Jill

Dec 26, 08 7:55

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Re: Cannot keep warm in cold swimming pool [Horstinator] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

1. Swim faster/work harder
2. Bob a lot in between repets and sets


Rouleur

Dec 26, 08 8:35

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I find that most pools are too warm. In fact it's rare for anyone to complain that a pool is too cool if they are doing any sort of serious swimming.

When the pool is the right temp you should be shivering a bit when you first get into it. That way when you actually start swimming you will be at ideal temperature.


ggeiger

Dec 26, 08 8:41

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Re: Cannot keep warm in cold swimming pool [Horstinator] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

I've had the same issue as you in the past. I would suggest wearing a trisuit, or a swimskin. Expensive, but nice to not freeze.

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Aztec

Dec 26, 08 8:53

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Re: Cannot keep warm in cold swimming pool [Rouleur] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

I swim in 79-81F, and I hate the first plunge in. It's ok after a few seconds, and after 200 I start to forget. A few hundred more and I'm fine. By the end of 2000y or so, I can chat w/ lanemates for minutes without chill.

So if you're swimming for real, you should warm up fine unless the pool is really cold.

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ryanps

Dec 26, 08 9:07

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Re: Cannot keep warm in cold swimming pool [Horstinator] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Hello Horst,
Cold is just par for the course. Unless you have a nice layer of fat you will always feel cold.
At the end of your workout, provided you haven't taken too much time in between sets, the water should feel okay but you most likely won't feel comfortable.
This was the one thing about swimming I always dreaded -- diving into a freezing cold pool. (Especially at 5:00 in the morning in the middle of winter.)

Two things that should make you happy though: 1) You must have very low body fat. 2) Cold water actually facilitates weight loss.

Lastly, you could come to the YMCA where I swim (Wolf Creek Y). Water temp. there the other morning was 91.
Of course, most of the time I am close to throwing-up because the water is too warm.

Ryan


efernand

Dec 26, 08 9:27

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Re: Cannot keep warm in cold swimming pool [Horstinator] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

What do you consider cold? < 78F? Anything 80 or above is warm.

Like Jill said, swim faster and take less rest.


TriBodyboarder

Dec 26, 08 10:04

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Re: Cannot keep warm in cold swimming pool [Horstinator] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

I have a similar issue, though most of my races are wetsuit swims. I live across the road from our year-round heated community pool, but for winter, they've turned the heat down to about 75. With the air temps in the morning in the 40's and 50's here in SoCal, I've had to resort to wearing at the very least, a wetsuit vest (my DeSoto sleeveless) just to keep warm.
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last tri in 83

Dec 26, 08 11:29

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Re: Cannot keep warm in cold swimming pool [TriBodyboarder] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Hmmm, I may have to check those out. We have the same situation with outdoor pools in central CA. Low to mid 70's water and butt-cold when you jump out. No fun.


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Tri N OC

Dec 26, 08 12:31

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Re: Cannot keep warm in cold swimming pool [Horstinator] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

HTFU? (Sorry, it had to be said:-)

If the swim harder approach does not work for you, wear the wetsuit and throw on a diving weight belt to compensate.


forzagto

Dec 26, 08 12:43

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The HTFU comment was inevitable but easy for you to say living in OC. I'm from Chicago and totally agree with Horstinator. I have very low body fat and walking outside at 5am in below zero wind chill and going to the pool is miserable, you're already numb from the outside and now your jumping into cold water; I never warm up no matter how hard I push, drink hot water between sets or wear multiple swim caps. I do feel like I would look pretty weak wearing a skinsuit or any sort of top in the pool but this might be the next necessary step.


leh

Dec 26, 08 13:44

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Re: Cannot keep warm in cold swimming pool [Horstinator] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Try wearing earplugs, two caps and a fastskin type suit that covers the torso and down to the knees or the ankles. Also limit the amount of rest between sets or do streamline jumps while waiting for the next set.

-leh


Tri N OC

Dec 26, 08 15:27

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Re: Cannot keep warm in cold swimming pool [forzagto] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

The HTFU comment was inevitable

True enough, this is Slowtwitch afterall. ;-) But you may be quite a bit tougher than the OP as you are going outside to swim and he is cold at an indoor pool. I was cold just reading about your routine. (Of course you are not going to get a lot of sympathy with that very low body fat comment.)

Be that as it may, cold water is cold water. While living in the OC has some decided training advantages, many pool mangers don't believe people should swim in the winter and heat the pools accordingly. Cold water sucks no matter where you find it. The most disheartening thing in the world is driving up to the pool and NOT seeing any steam rising off the water. Right then and there you know it is not going to be a fun swim. But as another ST truism states: If it was easy, everyone would do it. Right?


roubaixman

Dec 26, 08 16:32

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Re: Cannot keep warm in cold swimming pool [ryanps] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

What Ryan said. At the TI swiminar I went to there were mostly triathletes with about 10% body fat. The pool was 72F and most of them had blue lips and chattering teeth. At about twice their body fat, I was asking for some ice cubes in the pool.

Double swim caps will slow heat loss from your head. Other than that, don't stop--you need the heat production from the effort of swimming to keep warm. I think the English Channel swimmers used to coat themselves in grease but your local pool would probably frown on that.


Aztec

Dec 26, 08 17:33

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Re: Cannot keep warm in cold swimming pool [forzagto] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

In Reply To:
The HTFU comment was inevitable but easy for you to say living in OC. I'm from Chicago and totally agree with Horstinator. I have very low body fat and walking outside at 5am in below zero wind chill and going to the pool is miserable, you're already numb from the outside and now your jumping into cold water; I never warm up no matter how hard I push, drink hot water between sets or wear multiple swim caps. I do feel like I would look pretty weak wearing a skinsuit or any sort of top in the pool but this might be the next necessary step.

There's an outdoor pool that's open in the winter, in sub-zero temps??? Wow, that thing must cost a fortune to keep warm.

I'm surprised the water feels cold when you get in. With 0F deck temps, I'd think that even 75F water would feel hot for a little while. The parts out of the water - recovering arms, back when kicking, face when breathing - must sting from the air temp!

I routinely see high 30s/low 40s at my pool, frost on the deck, and that 79-80F pool feels like a spa for the first few seconds on mornings like that.

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Aztec

Dec 26, 08 17:34

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And I would consider a neoprene cap. Supposedly holds a lot of heat. Get the kind that goes over your ears and has a chin strap.

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tegra

Dec 26, 08 18:37

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swim cap.

also, to those who don't believe that a pool can be cold after warm-up - there is a 50m 8-lane pool i've been to before that was kept below 70 degrees year-round.

thankfully, i was only there for a training camp, but that was definitely one of the worst training camps i've been to in my entire life, lol


JenSw

Dec 26, 08 18:41

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I have the same problem. At one point the heater in the pool at my gym was broken and I didn't even get in, I sat in the hot tub instead. The heater there is inconsistant so I never know whether I will be cold. I actually prefer swimming in water that is too warm.

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forzagto

Dec 27, 08 8:27

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Re: Cannot keep warm in cold swimming pool [Aztec] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

No, I think i worded my post wrong. I don't swim outside when it's below zero, or even close. What I was saying is just going ouside and driving to the indoor pool I freeze and don' warm up by the time I get in the pool. I wish I could take credit for being that hardcore but when it comes to cold weather I am a complete wussie.


Axles of Evil

Dec 27, 08 8:43

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Re: Cannot keep warm in cold swimming pool [Horstinator] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Wear a full wetsuit. Be prepared to ignore all the criticism you will receive both here and at the pool, but in balance, you'll be warm, ...and, it will make you faster!




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(This post was edited by Axles of Evil on Dec 27, 08 8:50)


docfuel

Dec 27, 08 9:08

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Re: Cannot keep warm in cold swimming pool [Horstinator] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Do some exercises before you hop in. I like to get in the hot tub and kick and do some standing stroking, too. Otherwise, it takes me a couple of hundred meters to get warm.
When the Olympic team was using the Rose Bowl pool before Sydney (2000) it took more than that, but it was late summer, and HOT, so it wasn't so bad. IF WE SWAM HARD. I can't imagine jumping in there now. I think it was <70F????

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Raptor

Dec 27, 08 11:25

Post #22 of 36 (15136 views)
Re: Cannot keep warm in cold swimming pool [forzagto] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

In Reply To:
The HTFU comment was inevitable but easy for you to say living in OC. I'm from Chicago and totally agree with Horstinator. ....

Our pools are outside and it is cold. Today it was in the upper thirtys and probably even cold for Chicago standards.

You may want to try Aquaskins: http://www.aquasphereswim.com/...aqua_skins_wt60.html


(This post was edited by Raptor on Dec 27, 08 11:25)


PBJ

Dec 27, 08 11:54

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Re: Cannot keep warm in cold swimming pool [Horstinator] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Weird but works: drink (not sip, but glug-glug drink) from a thermos of hot water (coffee temperature hot) instead of cold or room temp water. Warms my core right up. I cool down pretty quickly btwn sets. Low thyroid issues in winter.


Tom Fort

Dec 30, 08 23:32

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Re: Cannot keep warm in cold swimming pool [Horstinator] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

I wear this when I swim in a cold pool:
http://www.nrsweb.com/...=2234&deptid=942

My body fat is fairly low and this allows me to swim in some pools without being miserable.


PAB

Feb 17, 09 16:12

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Re: Cannot keep warm in cold swimming pool [Horstinator] [In reply to] Quote | Reply

At the open water clinics where cold water is an issue, they always recommend wearing Mack's Earplugs to help keep the cold water from entering the ear canals. A ton of people were wearing them when I did the Alcatraz races. You can find info on them at http://www.macksearplugs.com/...ilicone_earplugs.htm

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