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lacticacid
Mar 3, 12 10:02
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You can tell that you didn't listen to the hearings. They were about the infringement of the gov. towards religion. Not about a womens sex/health. That is what the Dems tried to make the hearings about.
She is/was not an expert on constitutional law. Which is what the hearings were about. That is why she was not qualified to give her 2 cents.
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Bigringonly
Mar 3, 12 10:02
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I have not been following this story, but if some college girl needs $1,000 to have sex, I am sure there are plenty of Republicans that would give her the money.
Someone get her Elliot Spitzer's phone number.
Maybe, or trolling airport bathrooms!
Chuck M
Mar 3, 12 11:02
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If someone can't even afford birth control, how are they gonna afford to raise, and provide medical care for a bunch of unwanted kids?
"It doesn't get any easier, you just go faster"
BarryP
Mar 3, 12 11:19
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My insurance company if
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by my state to cover birth control for me. My wife and I are unable to conceive but I MUST PAY FOR birth control coverage. That's insane.
You clearly don't understand the concept of "insurance." If you simply paid for what you needed at the time, it wouldn't be called insurance, it would be called paying for procedures yourself.
Insurance is a collective sharing the costs of unknown potential consequences. That's starkly different than paying for what you specifically need. Yes, in the example you gave above, you *must* pay for birth control coverage for someone else just like someone else *must* pay for you when you get cancer, or just like I *must* pay for a wounded Iraq soldier's medical procedure even though *I* didn't support us going to war, and *I* didn't sign up to go over there.
What muddies the waters in this whole debate are the concept of pre-existing conditions, and the fact that the insurance lobby along with the Republicans fucked this all up by trying to do it through private insurance.
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Duffy
Mar 3, 12 11:29
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Re: Finally, Limbaugh screws himself [BarryP]
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My insurance company if
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by my state to cover birth control for me. My wife and I are unable to conceive but I MUST PAY FOR birth control coverage. That's insane.
You clearly don't understand the concept of "insurance." If you simply paid for what you needed at the time, it wouldn't be called insurance, it would be called paying for procedures yourself.
Insurance is a collective sharing the costs of unknown potential consequences. That's starkly different than paying for what you specifically need. Yes, in the example you gave above, you *must* pay for birth control coverage for someone else just like someone else *must* pay for you when you get cancer, or just like I *must* pay for a wounded Iraq soldier's medical procedure even though *I* didn't support us going to war, and *I* didn't sign up to go over there.
What muddies the waters in this whole debate are the concept of pre-existing conditions, and the fact that the insurance lobby along with the Republicans fucked this all up by trying to do it through private insurance.
You always come to the conclusion that people "don't understand" when they are in disagreement with you. It's getting old. Even when I agree with you on something but come to that conclusion for different reasons you throw a hissy.
Now about insurance. I pay extra money for birth control coverage for
my insurance policy.
I don't want birth control coverage but I have to take it. If I had a choice I wouldn't get BC coverage. Their are lots of things I don't have coverage for (and don't pay for) because I don't want them. Prescriptions is one of them. I'm taking that risk. It's my choice.
I just want to buy the insurance coverage I think I need. Nothing more nothing less. I don't see why so many have a problem with that.
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chainpin
Mar 3, 12 11:32
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If her cost estimates are correct she is one horny biatch!!!!!
"I really wish you would post more often. You always have some good stuff to say. I copied it below just in case someone missed it." BarryP to Chainpin on 10/21/06
link5485
Mar 3, 12 11:39
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If everyone was allowed to choose that finely about what they want or don't want in insurance it would begin to breakdown. Insurance is about collectivization of risk. The entire industry relies on you paying more in that you'll ever take out. How exactly will you pay for BC if your plan doesn't even cover prescriptions?
Chuck M
Mar 3, 12 11:43
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If anyone would care to sign a petition that will be sent to Limbaugh's advertisers:
http://act.credoaction.com/...01-4210333-c1bGT%3Dx
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Duffy
Mar 3, 12 11:44
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If everyone was allowed to choose that finely about what they want or don't want in insurance it would begin to breakdown. Insurance is about collectivization of risk. The entire industry relies on you paying more in that you'll ever take out. How exactly will you pay for BC if your plan doesn't even cover prescriptions?
Contraceptives are specifically required by law to be covered in all policies. So is mental health coverage. There are several mandated coverages. Each time they came into place I was informed of my new coverage and my new (increased) premiums.
I pay more auto insurance for my BMW than I did for my Toyota. Should I pay BMW prices for the Toyota? Should I be forced to buy a BMW?
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Jodi
Mar 3, 12 11:47
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I don't understand why an insurance company would choose to not cover birth control. Covering Ambien, pain meds, and viagra are money sinks. No return on the investment. Covering birth control can prevent pregnancies which are huge money losers for the insurance company. Guaranteed doctors visits, imaging and at least one hospital stay, and that is for uncomplicated pregnancies. If I'm paying into an insurance policy I want it to cover birth control even if I don't personally use it. It's a financially sound insurance decision.
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xtremrun
Mar 3, 12 11:49
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chainpin wrote:
If her cost estimates are correct she is one horny biatch!!!!!
You and rush seem to share the same misconception: you don't take a pill everytime you want to get off (have sex) that's what you do with Oxycotin everytime you want to get high. I can understand rush's confusion. What your is excuse? What a blowhard hypocritical piece of crap. He is lucky her father doesn't stomp a hole in his fat ass.
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BarryP
Mar 3, 12 11:50
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You always come to the conclusion that people "don't understand" when they are in disagreement with you.
No I don't *always* come to that conclusion, but will admit that I *often* come to that conclusion with you, and it has more to do with the content of your post than the simple fact that it is a "disagreement."
Kind of an ironic (see my last comment on the other thread) lead in considering your self ascribed reputation of being insightful and writing posts that "get people to think."
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you throw a hissy
I don't throw hissies. I much more cold and calculating than that.
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Now about insurance. I pay extra money for birth control coverage for
my insurance policy.
I don't want birth control coverage but I have to take it. If I had a choice I wouldn't get BC coverage. Their are lots of things I don't have coverage for (and don't pay for) because I don't want them. Prescriptions is one of them. I'm taking that risk. It's my choice.
I just want to buy the insurance coverage I think I need. Nothing more nothing less. I don't see why so many have a problem with that.
I should have added earlier the concept of UNIVERSAL coverage that also throws a monkey wrench into the mix. This is exactly why there is a mandate to *require* certain coverages of
people
whether an individual needs it or not.
As I said earlier, *I* don't need coverage for damage caused by stepping on mines since I don't live in an area infested with mines, yet I have always been required to pay for people who do. I also don't get to opt out of this for religious beliefs.
We've always had taxes that pay for things that certain individuals will never use, and there's nothing insane about it.
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Duffy
Mar 3, 12 11:53
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Taxes and health insurance are two different things (for now).
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Goblue#1
Mar 3, 12 11:56
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Based on this I would expect you to start a thread whining about the cost of mental health cost with your insurance. Oh wait, you probably opted out of that coverage with your pick and choose plan.
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trail
Mar 3, 12 11:56
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> That is what the Dems tried to make the hearings about. She is/was not an expert on constitutional law. Which is what the hearings were about. That is why she was not qualified to give her 2 cents.[/quote]
A citizen shouldn't be allowed to speak before Congress unless they're considered an expert on constitutional law? That's fairly elitist. Not many members of *Congress* are experts on constitutional law. (not meant as a slight - they're just not).
dave_w
Mar 3, 12 11:59
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Jodi wrote:
I don't understand why an insurance company would choose to not cover birth control. Covering Ambien, pain meds, and viagra are money sinks. No return on the investment. Covering birth control can prevent pregnancies which are huge money losers for the insurance company. Guaranteed doctors visits, imaging and at least one hospital stay, and that is for uncomplicated pregnancies. If I'm paying into an insurance policy I want it to cover birth control even if I don't personally use it. It's a financially sound insurance decision.
Jodi
Well stated, from a logical POV, but as someone pointed out, she's complaining about a religious institution not paying for something they do not support for religious reasons.
lacticacid
Mar 3, 12 12:01
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You bet and still true. That is why you have hearings. To find out facts. Not to derail.
Duffy
Mar 3, 12 12:02
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I'm not allowed to "opt out". I would if I could.
When I bought coverage they ask if I wanted dental coverage. If I say yes it cost more. I said no. I want to go to the dentist of my choosing and I pay cash for it.
How is that any different?
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Goblue#1
Mar 3, 12 12:04
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Looking at the panel of five they had I would wager a guess none of them meet your criteria regarding constitutional law.
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Goblue#1
Mar 3, 12 12:06
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I am saying that if you have to pay for contraception by law and you are bitching about than you should also start bitching about the mental health you are required to pay for.
It's not how you start, it's how you finish
Duffy
Mar 3, 12 12:12
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Goblue#1 wrote:
I am saying that if you have to pay for contraception by law and you are bitching about than you should also start bitching about the mental health you are required to pay for.
This thread is about contraception.
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link5485
Mar 3, 12 12:16
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You get to choose what car you drive. You don't get the same freedom with health problems.
Grant.Reuter
Mar 3, 12 12:16
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The difference is he knows hes not going to need the birth control. He doesnt know if he will need the mental health so you leave it on.
Its like a deductable in some sense, i know i can cover the first thousand so I pay less than someone per month who couldnt cover the first thousand.
Its not complicated.
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Goblue#1
Mar 3, 12 12:24
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There are many different reasons one would need to have contraception on their insurance, we never know just like we never know if we will need to use mental health coverage.
You are right in one regard it is not that difficult, you should understand this.
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Duffy
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link5485 wrote:
You get to choose what car you drive. You don't get the same freedom with health problems.
But I should be able to choose what insurance coverage I want.
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