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styrrell

Oct 6, 11 7:56

Post #101 of 1355 (19607 views)

Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [jackmott] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

Thats not a tough one. With a straw (and I got rid or the rigid one after the first ride) I can lift the tube and drink without getting out of my aero position even for a second. Just a little turn of the wrist. No other fluid replenishment solution allows a lower aero penalty, especailly since most racing orgs don't let you use IVs anymore (yeah someone tried it in a race).

Styrrell
Styrrell

JustinPB

Oct 6, 11 8:08

Post #102 of 1355 (19584 views)

Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [Macho Grande] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

Macho Grande wrote:

2) With the aerobar, I notice the straw is held on by a magnet to alloy extensions. How is the straw held in place if you use carbon extensions?

It's highly unlikely that the current extensions are steel (the only material that would function as you suggest), which leads one to conclude that there is another magnet involved. Which would work with carbon or any other material.

Macho Grande

Oct 6, 11 8:12

Post #103 of 1355 (19573 views)

Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [jpb] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

On the photos I've seen the magnet attached to the extension. I don't know what the material is, but the photo is rather clear.

Bob

"If you have a dream, pursue it as hard as you can. The world needs more of that." - Jordan Rapp

Macho Grande

Oct 6, 11 8:13

Post #104 of 1355 (19567 views)

Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [jpb] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

I take that back, I looked at the photo on the front page and it appears as though there is a rubber band that goes around the extension that has a magnet. My bad. Seems a bit odd since you'll have to put it back when you're done, thus taking your eyes off the road.

Bob

"If you have a dream, pursue it as hard as you can. The world needs more of that." - Jordan Rapp

jackmott

Oct 6, 11 8:15

Post #105 of 1355 (19560 views)

Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [styrrell] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

I do not get out of the aero position to drink with a torpedo bottle.

styrrell wrote:

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jackmott

Oct 6, 11 8:16

Post #106 of 1355 (19559 views)

Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [Macho Grande] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

Not a crit racer

Macho Grande wrote:

Seems a bit odd since you'll have to put it back when you're done, thus taking your eyes off the road.

Bob

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Macho Grande

Oct 6, 11 8:18

Post #107 of 1355 (19549 views)

Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [jackmott] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

Yes, well, we can't all be Mr. Mott.

Bob

"If you have a dream, pursue it as hard as you can. The world needs more of that." - Jordan Rapp

styrrell

Oct 6, 11 8:22

Post #108 of 1355 (19539 views)

Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [jackmott] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

Ddn't say out of the aero position, I said no aero penalty. How exactly does the fluid get into your belly, without an aero penalty?

Styrrell
Styrrell

Tom A.

Oct 6, 11 8:57

Post #109 of 1355 (19509 views)

Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [styrrell] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

styrrell wrote:

Ddn't say out of the aero position, I said no aero penalty. How exactly does the fluid get into your belly, without an aero penalty?

You guys need to think more "out of the box"...I think someone needs to incorporate one of these things into an aero helmet ;-)

(BTW...just a hint...but since you write "Styrrell" at the end of every post anyway, how about just making that your signature file? It's a pain to have to cut your name out of every reply I quote of yours)

http://bikeblather.blogspot.com/

Robert Driskell

Oct 6, 11 9:08

Post #110 of 1355 (19487 views)

Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [CAnderson_SBC] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

How easy is it to refill the bladder during the ride? Any chance of a video on this process? Thanks guys for listening to the masses.
Robert Driskell
Certified BodyGeometry Fit Technician
Bayou Bicycles New Orleans,LA
(Retailer of Specialized Bicycles)

bootsie_cat

Oct 6, 11 10:38

Post #111 of 1355 (19411 views)

Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [CAnderson_SBC] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

What is weight on this bike compared to prior shiv?

curly

Oct 6, 11 10:58

Post #112 of 1355 (19387 views)

Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [bootsie_cat] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

A lot heavier I suspect.

styrrell

Oct 6, 11 11:08

Post #113 of 1355 (19360 views)

Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [Tom A.] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

Ok,

I think at least one person wanted to use your idea and put a badder in the aero tail.
Styrrell

alvaro

Oct 6, 11 11:15

Post #114 of 1355 (19347 views)

Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [curly] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

curly wrote:

A lot heavier I suspect.

I doubt it, the nosecone shiv weights a ton

jeffp

Oct 6, 11 11:19

Post #115 of 1355 (19336 views)

Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [styrrell] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

i think it could be used as a catheter resevoir for those of you that don't want to wet yourselves while riding, just use a different tube dia ;)

Tom A.

Oct 6, 11 11:22

Post #116 of 1355 (19332 views)

Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [styrrell] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

styrrell wrote:

Ok,

I think at least one person wanted to use your idea and put a badder in the aero tail.

Thanks for moving your signature :-)

http://bikeblather.blogspot.com/

styrrell

Oct 6, 11 11:24

Post #117 of 1355 (19322 views)

Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [Tom A.] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

Its going to take some getting used to. typiing it every time is pretty natural.
Styrrell

CakeWalk

Oct 6, 11 14:03

Post #118 of 1355 (19210 views)

Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [dongustav] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

Dong, currently all of the bikes are shipping in full matte just like you received. My personal opinion... man that bike looks good!!! I've alwasy been a fan of black on black on black on black.

I'm glad you are digging it!

dongustav wrote:

Chris, Slightly off topic question - I've got a Shiv TT being built right now, expect to pick it up today. When we opened the box at the shop we found that the frame was 100% matte black, no gloss accents except on the fork. The clear-coat is fine, just no glossy black on the frame at all. Is that how theyre shipping now or did I get a one-off? Personally i LOVE it and would have ordered it sooner if I new it was goinng to be all matte/nude carbon. Make the Shiv Tri in matte black and I'd reconsider my frame choice :)

Chris R.
Specialized Bicycle Components
PR/Media Relations

twomarks

Oct 6, 11 14:27

Post #119 of 1355 (19175 views)

Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [CakeWalk] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

Cakewalk,

Looking at the stack and reach information on the website - reach wise, the large is the frame for me, but my stack is 53.5 (3 centimeters lower than what is listed on the website). How much lower can the large go on it's stack?

Thanks,

twomarks

CakeWalk

Oct 6, 11 15:14

Post #120 of 1355 (19128 views)

Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [JSA] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

Hey JSA

The in the later years of the Transition we started realizing that the frame was actually a little low (especially in the larger sizes) thanks to data we were receiving from our BG Fitters. Starting the project for the Shiv we wanted to have a bike that not only had a huge range of fit... but was also easy to fit for our dealers.

JSA, you are correct. The medium bike will be the easiest way to replicate your fit.

JSA wrote:

I am confused as hell on the sizing.

Currently, I ride a Large Transition with just a small spacer on the stem. The stack/reach is - 526/405.

Looking at the Shiv (stack/reach):

Medium - 540/405
Large -565/425

I thought the Transition was a narrow, tall frame. The Shiv looks even more so. So, if I were to go from the Transition to the Shiv, it seems like a drop from the Large (Transition) to the Medium (Shiv). Yes?

Chris R.
Specialized Bicycle Components
PR/Media Relations

CakeWalk

Oct 6, 11 15:16

Post #121 of 1355 (19131 views)

Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [UKathlete] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

Glad to hear you're pickin up what we're putting down. When you get a chance to ride one, make sure you let me know what you think!

UKathlete wrote:

Good to hear, I'm going to me in the market for a new bike to upgrade from my Transition, which has taken a bit of a beating over the last 3 years...! The shiv is definatley a top contender, but which one, I'm not sure about yet...! For me it's 95% about the handling..

Chris R.
Specialized Bicycle Components
PR/Media Relations

CakeWalk

Oct 6, 11 15:49

Post #122 of 1355 (19085 views)

Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [Shiv-er] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

Hey Shiv-er let me see if I can answer this one.

here is the S&R chart for the bike:

You are correct, with the stem flipping from 60-90mm you can add that on for your reach to the basebar. However, with this bike we are running a standard 1 1/8th" steer tube so riders will be able to choose any stem and bar they want. (the full integrated carbon aerobar/stem and the alloy bar will also be available in the aftermarket.)

Next on the stack height, with the S-Works carbon bar with integrated stem from the center of the HT to the basebar measures 35mm and from the basebar to the armpad measures 45mm for a total of 80mm from the center of the HT to the arm pad. This is essentially the lowest stock set up.

With this bike and stock parts we have been able to fit both Ben Hoffman and Rasmus easily on the bike [Crowie, as you have seen, runs a Pro cockpit (not to mention Mark, Myself, and many other test dummies in the building!)]

From the lowest position the rider can add up to 50mm of spacer in 5mm increments under the extensions

and 25mm or 50mm of additional height to the steertube with use of the included Control Towers!!!

This means from the stock set up a rider can come up an additional 10cm. This bike is incredibly easy to fit.

Parts are shown below:

The bike also ships with this kit:

including:

Spacers for the extensions in 20mm, 10mm and 5mm heights

3 heights (5mm, 25mm, and 50mm) of behind the stem Control Tower Fairings.

Alright Shiv-er, I hope that covers the basics. We did alot of thinking and reserch about what a REAL triathlete needed and aimed to not just fit the ultra-low extreme of UCI Pro cyclists. Hopefully this is just want everyone has been hoping for.

if you need any more clarification please ask. I'll be fielding questions when I can.

thanks!!!

Shiv-er wrote:

What is the overall stack of the new S-Works Shiv with the included aero bars? All you show on the Specialized website is frame stack. For reach we can assume that it will be frame reach + 60 or 90 mm for the stem lengths, correct?

Chris R.
Specialized Bicycle Components
PR/Media Relations

(This post was edited by CakeWalk on Oct 8, 11 8:36)

CakeWalk

Oct 6, 11 16:43

Post #123 of 1355 (19025 views)

Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [Macho Grande] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

Hey Macho,

1) Yes you can run the bike without the bladder. The frame will ship with a small cap with will close the frame from sweat, water, and rain.

2) the magnet is held to the bar by a "knog" like rubber piece. It can be easily moved anywhere the rider wants.

The cables and wires are both sealed away from the bladder. If you look at the X-Ray of the bike you can see that there is stiff plastic housing that runs from the holes at the top of the TT to the BB so the user can easily guide the cables through the frame.

4) Yes sir, you can run and Stem/Bar combo you want. the Steer tube is 1 18th inches and will accept any standard stem.

Macho Grande wrote:

Few questions:

1) Can you simply elect to not run the internal hydration setup? Is there a reliable, waterproof plug to cap the entry point? I personally prefer the simplicity of a torpedo bottle between my bars and, in the case of the Shiv, a seat tube bottle.

2) With the aerobar, I notice the straw is held on by a magnet to alloy extensions. How is the straw held in place if you use carbon extensions?

3) How might the sweat from the bladder impact Di2 wires running in the frame?

3) On the Specialized website, there OSBB frameset is shown, but there is no aerobar, extensions,. fairing, etc. Is this analogous to the Speed Concept 7 series where you'll simply run a normal stem and spacer?

Thanks,

Bob

Chris R.
Specialized Bicycle Components
PR/Media Relations

curly

Oct 6, 11 17:01

Post #124 of 1355 (19004 views)

Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [alvaro] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

Race ready, lighter than my Transition so hardly a ton.

trifil

Oct 6, 11 18:30

Post #125 of 1355 (18942 views)

Re: Official Specialized Shiv Thread [Rappstar] [In reply to]	Quote \| Reply

Jordan, how does the sizing compare between the 2011 shiv and the new SHIV tri? I am cuurrenting on a 2011 Shiv.

Thanks.

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