Love that front wheel..that is awesome

Funny to me that this bike looks so crazy-cool-custom, and then generic Profile extensions that dont match the red/white/blue paint. Check out the aero cranks.

These were the USA Team Olympic track bikes ('92 I think). I never could understand the design; if you were going to save drag by omitting one tube, why remove the top tube?

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Totally agree. Maybe Bio_McGeek or Andy can shed some light....

Totally agree. Maybe Bio_McGeek or Andy can shed some light....

These were the USA Team Olympic track bikes ('92 I think). I never could understand the design; if you were going to save drag by omitting one tube, why remove the top tube?

Two words: Chet Kyle. When EDS started what eventually became Project 96 we were going in the direction of the Zipp 2001. We were in conversation with Andy Ording at Zipp about having custom versions made. Also, had various prototypes made in steel by Dan Wynn. There was a guy from the San Diego area who was making extremely stiff custom carbon bean bikes (made one for Arron Hartwell) and these ideas were all on the table. When Chet got involved in the project all he wanted to do was build this bike, which was essentially a slightly updated version of a prototype for 1986 or so. You can find pics of the original moc-up in one of the old Cycling Science articles. No amount of wind tunnel data would convince him that there were better designs.
Chet also would not entertain ideas regarding changes in rider position. No steep seat tubes even though it was legal then. Also, we knew about the superman position but Chet and Ed Burke would not give it a chance. Superman position was a well kept cycling secret but one of the engineers at GM, a guy named Bill Surber found a picture of superman position being tested in an Italian language aerodynamics journal. I still have the xeroxed picture he gave me in a box somewhere. Could we try it with the US cyclists? No way.

Cheers,

Jim

Lon Haldeman

Serotta?

I would not be so sure about that......Ben was there and did allot of work, there was however a guy that flew in from 3Rensho :-)

5. Joel Thompsons 24 inch wheel Holland with the multi color paint and custom aero bars
6. Hamilton 24 inch wheel bikes with the Hamilton 3 spoke wheel

keep it coming- old tri stuff too!
Here is what I want pictures of:

9. Hookers

keep it coming- old tri stuff too!
Here is what I want pictures of:
1. 88 and 92 olympic ttt bikes

One obvious difference between the road and track versions is the fork... ;-)
If you use the track back on the road, make sure you only turn left...

Not sure what this is, but its cool. (edit: Lotus Track frame??) Found it on the web at one point, now its in my TT folder in iPhoto.





My hope is that someone (or some company) will become inspired and grow the balls to make some TT bikes for the rest of us not bound by the UCI. I'll do the marketing. We can chat offline :)

Hmmm...I don't know a lot of MTBs with bladed carbon forks though.

And the Trimble...lets not forget the Trimble...so much for the P3C being "cutting edge"...

1988 Olympic Bike taken from First Flight website there is a scanned article there for a good read written by Chet Kyle. Check out those handlebars. Makes the Hed Black Dogs less revolutionary.







The lotus came out in 1992.

Looks like Yamaguchi made the TT bike in 1992:



I'd put my money on the 88 bike.

Alf Engers. Alf dominated the sport in the UK in the 1970s. He was the man to beat at 25 miles. In 1978, he set a sub 50 minute time for 25 miles – 49.24, before tri bars and disc wheels.
Read more: http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/...hotos/#ixzz0cO8O0Z9l

These were the USA Team Olympic track bikes ('92 I think). I never could understand the design; if you were going to save drag by omitting one tube, why remove the top tube?

That nice couple in the first pic very certainly ahead of their time.

Two words: Chet Kyle. When EDS started what eventually became Project 96 we were going in the direction of the Zipp 2001. We were in conversation with Andy Ording at Zipp about having custom versions made. Also, had various prototypes made in steel by Dan Wynn. There was a guy from the San Diego area who was making extremely stiff custom carbon bean bikes (made one for Arron Hartwell) and these ideas were all on the table. When Chet got involved in the project all he wanted to do was build this bike, which was essentially a slightly updated version of a prototype for 1986 or so. You can find pics of the original moc-up in one of the old Cycling Science articles. No amount of wind tunnel data would convince him that there were better designs.
Chet also would not entertain ideas regarding changes in rider position. No steep seat tubes even though it was legal then. Also, we knew about the superman position but Chet and Ed Burke would not give it a chance. Superman position was a well kept cycling secret but one of the engineers at GM, a guy named Bill Surber found a picture of superman position being tested in an Italian language aerodynamics journal. I still have the xeroxed picture he gave me in a box somewhere. Could we try it with the US cyclists? No way.

Cheers,

Jim

Anyone ever have one of these?

Bostick pics, back when he was on the Hooker - 1999 TN District TT:

Photos by Bill Parsons (http://www.sceniccityvelo.com)







2005 TN District TT

While looking through the rest of my photos I came across this picture of one of the Puntous twins in T1 along side her nor frills bike (#107). The twin is sitting on the ground wearing the red and white one piece tri suit:






Also riding the bike in transition.

has anyone ever raced (in this forum) with a 650 up front and a 700 in the back??

Anyone know if TN still uses this course for districts? It is/was laser measured 40k and super fast.

It is amazing how much easier it is to get down in that good aero position with a smaller front wheel..........has anyone ever raced (in this forum) with a 650 up front and a 700 in the back??

His 6 o'clock knee is even forward of the pedal spindle!

I've often wondered the same thing, as Bostick's 45+ and Hines' 30+ U.S. TT records are the only 40 km marks not set in Moriarty:

45+ 49:57.98 Kent Bostick, Dunlap, TN, 6/6/99

30+ 52:50.23 Phyllis Hines, Dunlap, TN 6/11/95

Two words: Chet Kyle. When EDS started what eventually became Project 96 we were going in the direction of the Zipp 2001. We were in conversation with Andy Ording at Zipp about having custom versions made. Also, had various prototypes made in steel by Dan Wynn. There was a guy from the San Diego area who was making extremely stiff custom carbon bean bikes (made one for Arron Hartwell) and these ideas were all on the table. When Chet got involved in the project all he wanted to do was build this bike, which was essentially a slightly updated version of a prototype for 1986 or so. You can find pics of the original moc-up in one of the old Cycling Science articles. No amount of wind tunnel data would convince him that there were better designs.
Chet also would not entertain ideas regarding changes in rider position. No steep seat tubes even though it was legal then. Also, we knew about the superman position but Chet and Ed Burke would not give it a chance. Superman position was a well kept cycling secret but one of the engineers at GM, a guy named Bill Surber found a picture of superman position being tested in an Italian language aerodynamics journal. I still have the xeroxed picture he gave me in a box somewhere. Could we try it with the US cyclists? No way.

Cheers,

Jim

The original mock up was a beam bike?

YES! The one on the lower right is clearly an early version of what ended up being the 96 Olympic bike. Note in the figure caption he says it was not as aero as the other prototype. Interestingly the one in the upper right looks a lot like a Lotus. These prototypes were built by Don Guichard who's day job was building composite structures for satellites. He now works for Cervelo. I believe he was involved in the final 96 bikes as well.

Cheers,

Jim

It is amazing how much easier it is to get down in that good aero position with a smaller front wheel..........has anyone ever raced (in this forum) with a 650 up front and a 700 in the back??

I just got my Cycling Science archive CD. Is this it?

2 questions ...

does anyone remember who made those on the fly adjustable seatposts .. springloaded horizontal fore/aft rail with a lever mounted on the handlebars, around in the 90s in triathlon ?

seat shifter

does anyone know what was up with paula newby frasers crank set in kona 96 ? the rings looked huge and the BB was very high and it looked like there were rotating crank extenension arms between the pedal and crank. i couldnt find a pic and didnt see anyone else ever use something like that ... does anyone know what they were ?

I think it works on the downstroke but if you have a good pull on the other side then you'd be ahead of the spindle...maybe.

One more question (and it's a crytptic one):

I have some old Kona tapes and on one of them (mid-late 80s) Mark Allen appears to have some sort of bungee going from under his saddle towards his bars. It's a close up so you can't see the whole thing and it doesn't look like the seat shifter mentioned above. If anything it looks a bit like the end of one of those sweat catchers you can buy to go on a trainer but the shot never pans out to show what the 'front' looks like. Any ideas?

yeah, the seat leash ... there were also behind the seat drink bottle systems with a padded vertical plate to push off

http://community.active.com/...7/Seat-Leash-web.jpg

I remember when that Moser came out - then Nashbar who at the time had their own house brand of frames tried to copy it with NO success.