Sinking legs usually means that you need to engage your core.

Whats your average pace per 100m?

You may have some good fundamentals already -- it isnt necessarily hard for everyone. Those that find it damn near impossible have things to work out.

I find it much easier with paddles than without

When i swim on my own and not with masters, i'll do a 1500m set:

10x50m band/pull/paddles
10x50m band/paddles
10x50m band only


That band only one is very difficult for me, the others are solid work but not 'hard' per say

it isn't necessarily supposed to be difficult, just expose stroke flaws.

Also,difficulty is pace dependent, i.e. doing anything flat out is gonna be difficult, doing something "not too fast" and at "a comfortable pace" is going to feel comfortable, by definition.

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My Tpace is about 1:40. I didn't time myself but it felt like I was going a 2:00/100m pace.
Btw, do you need the band, if you have the pull buoy in between the legs? Doesn't that take the legs out anyways?

Yeah. I had just heard that if you do 1000m like that, you're a badass.
I am definitely not a badass.
I was being cautious to see how it felt for 1000m. I'll pick up the pace from here on.

My Tpace is about 1:40. I didn't time myself but it felt like I was going a 2:00/100m pace.
Btw, do you need the band, if you have the pull buoy in between the legs? Doesn't that take the legs out anyways?[/quote]
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Actually, in his original post, he said he just used paddles and the band, with no buoy. I think he was responding to the set posted by Chris that had 3 diff parts with and w/o the buoy.

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Thank you for the video. The example he gives about what not to do.... well, that's me. lol.
I'll work on getting it right. I'll still continue to use some paddles for muscular endurance and some resistance bands.

Actually, in his original post, he said he just used paddles and the band, with no buoy. I think he was responding to the set posted by Chris that had 3 diff parts with and w/o the buoy.[/quote]




Exactly. My understanding was that the whole purpose of the band is to take the legs out so that you learn how to be more horizontal as well as strengthen the arms since you will swim with more drag. If that's the case, then the pull buoy negates the effect of the band. Right?

Exactly. My understanding was that the whole purpose of the band is to take the legs out so that you learn how to be more horizontal as well as strengthen the arms since you will swim with more drag. If that's the case, then the pull buoy negates the effect of the band. Right?[/quote]
Not really because of the buoyancy provided by the buoy; results vary according to a given person's style of swimming and the degree of effectiveness of their kick but most people will be slower w/ just the band than w/ the band and buoy, and a little faster still when pulling with just the buoy, as taking away the band but leaving the buoy allows the ankles/feet to float more naturally. A good swimmer will be just a touch faster when swimming full-stroke than when pulling w/ just the buoy. Adding in the paddles makes pretty much everyone faster in any configuration.

Personally, I think the people who benefit most from the band are those with a scissor kick, as the band forces them not to scissor, which is very beneficial since scissoring results in very slow swimming due to the almost total stop the swimmer comes to when breathing. There's a guy at my pool with a bad scissor and i'm on the verge of giving him a free band and free swim lesson just because i cringe every time i watch him swimming:)

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