You may want do some research on hyponatremia aka water intoxication.

I mean.. if they do it every day, maybe they have some kind of super body immunity to hyponatremia.

But it surely seems unhealthy to drink to the point of needing to pee 40x a day.

Roctane huh?

If I start to bonk again this weekend I'll drop the saltsticks and try that next.

Thanks for the heads up.

Debating getting coached for the month on this.
Need to bulletproof this race or its strictly Olympics and sprints for thus guy.

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That is a ton of water but if he is excreting it he is fine.

I mean I sweat a lot but I think I would have to be taking bathroom breaks on the reg 2x an hr.

Think it makes him more aero?

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It would make him float higher, because all his empty space in his gut is like a fishtank.

Hahaha you would take that seriously.

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It's not about the specific product. I've used half a dozen other products with success as well. Your first focus needs to be on ensuring you have the right fitness and that you're pacing correctly. In my experience, many supposed nutrition/hydration problems are actually due to failures in fitness or pacing.

But when it comes to nutrition, it takes some trial and error to figure out what works best for you. How quickly can you absorb the calories, how does your gut handle certain concentrations, etc.

Make a speadsheet with different products and breakdown the nutrition:
How many carbs? What's the carb breakdown?
How many electrolytes? What's the breakdown?
Any caffeine? How much?
Any protein? How much?

Do a sweat test to determine how much you sweat in similar conditions to your race.

With all that information and the trial and error, you can build a fueling plan broken into 15 minute intervals that should let you know how much you need to ingest of what products to get the fuel and water that work for you. If it sounds complicated, it really isn't. A good mix a complex and simple sugars, some electrolytes but not too many, enough water to compensate for some of what you're losing through sweat (but definitely not all) and a flavor that you like. Add in some solid foods if you prefer that, but you can break them down the same way.

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I hear you on testing the same situations. But really.
When do I go through that kind of shit? Hmmm.

When my fiance starts talking and I have to grin and bear it.

I sweat like no ones business playing hockey.

I sweat only a little when heavy lifting but sweat more when doing abs.

Though really I don't think I've done much that is as sweaty as doing a tri in the hot summer mugginess.

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Train in the conditions you're going to race. My races are usually hot and muggy, so I do my running in the hottest part of the day in the Houston heat.

If you don't go through the pain in training, you're definitely going to feel it during the race.

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The magic of a 9-6 job.

Wearing a suit and tie during work loses its luster when you start sweating through.

Though this weekends bricks will be on par as you suggest.

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I don't think that you and several others have connected all the dots. I am not saying that to be an azz. Dilutional hyponatremia is a very serious event and can lead to death. The fact that he IS excreting the fluids can be a contributing factor.

Couldn't find anything about 24oz/hr in there. The study I linked to above found an average sweat rate in triathletes preparing for Kona of 1.4l/hour or 48oz. So if both those numbers were right and you can't absorb more than 24oz/hr, then the average triathlete would have a net fluid loss of 24oz/hour or ~15lbs during 10 hours of racing. That's clearly not the case or the course would be littered with collapsed athletes, so what am I missing?

Did a little searching since my earlier post and found 400-800 ml (13.5 - 27 oz.) to be the most often cited number for water. If you can find anything scientific (not ST pontificating) that states otherwise, please point me to it. Again, not an expert, it's just what I found from several different sources.

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I have, the book Waterlogged by Tim Noakes is a great read. http://www.amazon.com/...urance/dp/145042497X

I don't think I have that problem. I do load up on H2O in the AM but throughout the day I drink when thirsty and never "force it down"

I am 41 years old, have been doing this for a LONG time and have not had any problems yet.

Here is the real bad news, I don't think I am the only one pissing in the water while we all wait for the swim to start.

Not 40 times a day but at least 10.

This is false.

There have to be more people in the water peeing for it to be accurate.

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+1 on Anando - depends on the person. Also depends on the event.

For some reason Beach2Battleship Half 2013 was a pee-fest. I peed a ton on the bike, as did many others as said in their race reports. Like a pee PR.

So, really hard to nail down a healthy pee rate because lots of variables.

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Quick update.

20 miles into the bike I peed. Big deal as I normally don't.

Just scratch labs and no nutrition.

Wonder if GU is clogging me up.

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Alright Sunday went for a long bike and a run.

Brought Salt tabs
3 bottles of skratch labs
3 honey stinger waffles (which by the by are amazing.)

Did ok on the 50+ bike.

Couldnt breathe after 2 miles on the run.

Though I didn't feel dehydrated or insanely stiff and locking up.

I blame myself for not working on my run as much as I should have been over the last few weeks
and a little bit on the humidity.

Feel good about the diet portion though as I was sweating WELLL into the day.

More pavement pounding is in my future.


I did pee at mile 25 and a few more times later in the day too.
Wasn't a bright neon yellow but more a clear with yellow tint to it.
Feeling better but not confident.

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