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Re: Hit and Run Today, HWY patrol says no crime since I'm fine [BarelyTri'n] [ In reply to ]
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Jason80134
Jul 25, 14 8:35
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BarelyTri'n wrote:
I'm really disappointed at some of these responses. I think it's shameful that there are so many cowards who recommend rolling over to this bully. We all need to realize that in these types of situations the cost/benefit equation doesn't end with us individually. If we don't take a stand when things like this happen to us, we let these cycles of violence perpetuate against others over and over.

To the OP - It's great to see that you're not willing to let this go lightly and I respect your courage. You're talking about criminal charges, so you don't need a lawyer and you won't be the one to file suit...that's up to the city/county/state. You just need to keep pushing the DA and/or police to do so. And unfortunately, you may need to educate them on some of the charges that could potentially apply. I don't know what would be applicable, but I'd be searching the Colorado statutes for: reckless driving, road rage, assault, battery, reckless endangerment, leaving the scene of an accident, etc. Good luck!


You need more life experience.
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Re: Hit and Run Today, HWY patrol says no crime since I'm fine [Jason80134] [ In reply to ]
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j p o
Jul 25, 14 8:37
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Jason80134 wrote:
MrSkinny wrote:
Jason80134 wrote:

If you are driving in your car on a two lane roadway where there is a steady volume traffic flowing both directions at 45-55 mph and then encounter another car driving at 15-20 mph, how do you typically react?


As a typical US driver? Or as a sane person who understands traffic, pays attention, and is able to take responsibility for handling a possible deadly machinery?

You can't handle a speed difference of less than 50km/h? Please NEVER, EVER drive in Germany on the "Autobahn" (there you might encounter speed differences of 200km/h).


Why do you think there are minimum speed limits?

Why do you think those are almost exclusively on interstates?
I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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Re: Hit and Run Today, HWY patrol says no crime since I'm fine [j p o] [ In reply to ]
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Jason80134
Jul 25, 14 8:42
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j p o wrote:
Jason80134 wrote:
MrSkinny wrote:
Jason80134 wrote:

If you are driving in your car on a two lane roadway where there is a steady volume traffic flowing both directions at 45-55 mph and then encounter another car driving at 15-20 mph, how do you typically react?


As a typical US driver? Or as a sane person who understands traffic, pays attention, and is able to take responsibility for handling a possible deadly machinery?

You can't handle a speed difference of less than 50km/h? Please NEVER, EVER drive in Germany on the "Autobahn" (there you might encounter speed differences of 200km/h).


Why do you think there are minimum speed limits?


Why do you think those are almost exclusively on interstates?

That was the point i was making in an earlier post, that they should establish minimum speed limits on other high volume roadways, just as they do on interstates, to achieve the same results. I don't think dept of transportation people envisioned cyclists riding on interstates, but the same principle applies.
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Re: Hit and Run Today, HWY patrol says no crime since I'm fine [Jason80134] [ In reply to ]
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RogerC39
Jul 25, 14 10:20
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Jason80134 wrote:
j p o wrote:
Jason80134 wrote:
MrSkinny wrote:
Jason80134 wrote:

If you are driving in your car on a two lane roadway where there is a steady volume traffic flowing both directions at 45-55 mph and then encounter another car driving at 15-20 mph, how do you typically react?


As a typical US driver? Or as a sane person who understands traffic, pays attention, and is able to take responsibility for handling a possible deadly machinery?

You can't handle a speed difference of less than 50km/h? Please NEVER, EVER drive in Germany on the "Autobahn" (there you might encounter speed differences of 200km/h).


Why do you think there are minimum speed limits?


Why do you think those are almost exclusively on interstates?


That was the point i was making in an earlier post, that they should establish minimum speed limits on other high volume roadways, just as they do on interstates, to achieve the same results. I don't think dept of transportation people envisioned cyclists riding on interstates, but the same principle applies.

Or perhaps rather than catering to inattentive drivers by creating new laws that reinforce and encourage their bad habits, more effort needs to be placed in enforcing existing laws and educating both law enforcement and drivers about cyclists and their rights. There is absolutely no excuse for a motorist driving 45-55 mph to not see and be able to avoid hitting a cyclist gong 15 mph. That's not even close to the 65+ mph speed limits on interstates, where minimum speed limits make sense in areas where alternative routes like frontage roads are possible. (And not all interstates have minimum speed limits.)

In addition, there is little in the OP to suggest that speed limit differential posed any danger or that a minimu speed limit would have made any difference This was not the matter of an inattentive driver, but rather it appears to be an intentional criminal act.
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Re: Hit and Run Today, HWY patrol says no crime since I'm fine [Jason80134] [ In reply to ]
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j p o
Jul 25, 14 10:28
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Jason80134 wrote:

That was the point i was making in an earlier post, that they should establish minimum speed limits on other high volume roadways, just as they do on interstates, to achieve the same results. I don't think dept of transportation people envisioned cyclists riding on interstates, but the same principle applies.

Well, actually they did consider that possibility. That would be why they are banned from interstates and minimum speed limits are applied to all vehicles.

But the other roads are open to cyclists, drivers of 1984 Ford Escorts and my dad. So drivers have to actually pay attention to the act of driving so as to not kill people going slow.
I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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Re: Hit and Run Today, HWY patrol says no crime since I'm fine [Jason80134] [ In reply to ]
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BarelyTri'n
Jul 25, 14 10:41
Post #81 of 84 (1393 views)
I agree, I'd definitely like to accumulate many more years of life experience!

However, I already have enough experience to recognize a dangerous bully who'd completely disregard another human's safety. I have enough experience to realize that if this person gets away with it, he'll be much more apt to do it again and injure or even kill a fellow cyclist. I have enough experience to know that I respect people who are willing to take a stand. And I have enough experience to identify a coward and be disgusted by one.
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Re: Hit and Run Today, HWY patrol says no crime since I'm fine [BarelyTri'n] [ In reply to ]
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dreaming~big
Jul 25, 14 13:04
Post #82 of 84 (1331 views)
pretty quick to make knee-jerk stereotypical judgments about people, too, I'd say.

sheesh.

~~ kate
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Re: Hit and Run Today, HWY patrol says no crime since I'm fine [j p o] [ In reply to ]
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dogmile
Jul 25, 14 16:35
Post #83 of 84 (1246 views)
In rural CO, WY and UT you can ride on the interstate. Some times it is the only paved route. If you have a shoulder as wide as a car lane, smooth pavement, and the next services in 55 miles it can be safer than most roads.

Before the Vail pass bike path was built it was pretty common to see bikes on I70 there.



j p o wrote:
Jason80134 wrote:


That was the point i was making in an earlier post, that they should establish minimum speed limits on other high volume roadways, just as they do on interstates, to achieve the same results. I don't think dept of transportation people envisioned cyclists riding on interstates, but the same principle applies.


Well, actually they did consider that possibility. That would be why they are banned from interstates and minimum speed limits are applied to all vehicles.

But the other roads are open to cyclists, drivers of 1984 Ford Escorts and my dad. So drivers have to actually pay attention to the act of driving so as to not kill people going slow.
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Re: Hit and Run Today, HWY patrol says no crime since I'm fine [peace242000] [ In reply to ]
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peace242000
Jan 11, 19 13:55
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I know it's been forever, but this finally resolved. They got the guy pretty quickly, at least they had a suspect and found him quickly.

It got more complicated because he was operating an illegal lumber operation in a small town outside of CO Springs, which explains why he sped away even after being confronted. Apparently a lot of these illegal lumber businesses popped up after the two big fires in 2013/14.

Relative to this he was charged w/ reckless driving and leaving the scene of an accident. He's not doing prison time, but the police said he'll likely never drive professionally anymore.

He was also prosecuted in other ways relating to the lumber.

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