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roadbiker
Sep 23, 08 2:23
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The new P4 Carbon
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http://www.flickr.com/...5159@N02/2881993984/
Sorry, but now it should work.
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Sep 23, 08 2:34
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Is that really it? So it is a P3, with a strange cutout on the down tube and a rear brake position that copies Felt?
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roadbiker
Sep 23, 08 2:38
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I am sure it is the new P4. It's C. Soeder from Team cervelo-lifeforce, picture taken yesterday in Varese (ITA).
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Sep 23, 08 2:39
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Hmmm.
More please.
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Rouleur
Sep 23, 08 2:49
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What fork is that? It doesn't seem to be the normal 3T Funda.
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Sep 23, 08 3:35
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THe cutout on the downtube is reminiscent of that on the Specialized transition, seems a strange place to make so big a change as I would imagine it is a very dirty are with turbulence from the feet.
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Matafan
Sep 23, 08 3:49
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It's ridiculously unsexy.
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Sep 23, 08 4:01
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looks like the same chainstays as the new S3, they look wider than tall. perhaps the downtube cutout is for a water-bottle?
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Sep 23, 08 4:41
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One of the rumors floating around is that the P4 would have an integrated water bottle in the bottom bracket area, so you're probably right. When the bottle is in place the cutout would be filled.
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Sep 23, 08 4:54
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Huh, interesting.
I think it is very introguing to see how various manufacturers deal with the max downtube width issue by building in special features like an integrated water bottle to make the BB shell one larger fairing. The only problem with this is that (a) it still only allows one bottle and (b) forces you to use their bottle, at least in the beginning.
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psycholist
Sep 23, 08 4:57
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What fork is that? It doesn't seem to be the normal 3T Funda.
That does look like the Funda to me ... just with Cervelo on it instead of 3T. Not sure, though.
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Sep 23, 08 5:28
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niiiice.
i'm now glad i didn't buy a tt bike this summer :)
dtreeps
Sep 23, 08 5:28
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any more pictures?
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p.VDB
Sep 23, 08 5:29
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any more pictures?
There must be more pictures from Varese.
Or how many hours till Interbikes opens?
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stal
Sep 23, 08 5:49
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Looks a helluva lot like a P3C with a few bells and whistles. ::yawn::
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Sep 23, 08 5:50
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I am sure it is the new P4. It's C. Soeder from Team cervelo-lifeforce, picture taken yesterday in Varese (ITA).
Well, let's see: sponsored rider on prototype that looks precisely as you'd expect based on the Cervelo patent applications and the info leaked by one of the triathlon magazines. Yup, gotta be at least a P3.5, if not the P4...
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Sep 23, 08 5:52
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This would be what happens when the designs are purely function driven, and comply with UCI rules...
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Looks a helluva lot like a P3C with a few bells and whistles. ::yawn::
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Sep 23, 08 5:55
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Best looking paint job Cervelo's had in a long time... ;-)
stal
Sep 23, 08 5:55
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You nailed it on the head. I was
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I ride a zipp 2001 though so I guess this yawner of a P4 means my bike is still the faster than the latest cervelo!
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jackmott
Sep 23, 08 6:08
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It would be fun to see Cervelo go all out on a whacky non UCI frame.
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Sep 23, 08 6:18
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I'm gutted that you can't see the headtube as that's probably the most important area in terms of aerodynamics.
So that's a 20% saving eh?
As a wheel fairing seems to be so important, why not design aero mudguards?
Or alternatively, is it just something that Cervelo did because they fancied a giggle at the amount of speculation that would come off the back of it?!?
jyeager
Sep 23, 08 6:22
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This would be what happens when the designs are purely function driven, and comply with UCI rules...
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Looks a helluva lot like a P3C with a few bells and whistles. ::yawn::
Exactly...you'd expect only incremental change as the design approaches optimal for a given set of constraints...and everybody has been raving for years about how the P3C is nearly optimal...
Sully
Sep 23, 08 6:34
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He's in the small ring.
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Sep 23, 08 6:41
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He's in the small ring.
He is actually a she!, Cervélo LifeForce is a womens team.
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Sep 23, 08 6:42
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He's in the small ring.
She. AND the photo is from the non-drive side. Very non-ST approved.
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