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fitnessclinic

Jan 30, 07 12:56

Post #1 of 306 (3037 views)
Slow twitch? Fast twitch? Can't Post

Slow twitch myth.

There is no such anatomical difference in muscle. No slow and fast twitch muscle that is. A friend of mine directed me to this site. I had no knoweldge of the "slowtwitch" forum or site untill recently and I find it a surprise that so many by into this theory.

The only twitching that goes on with regard to slow and fast is found in ones head.

T


luckyleese

Jan 30, 07 13:05

Post #2 of 306 (3015 views)
Re: Slow twitch? Fast twitch? [fitnessclinic] [In reply to] Can't Post
Interesting first post?!


"Are you sure we're going fast enough?" - Emil Zatopek


fitnessclinic

Jan 30, 07 13:11

Post #3 of 306 (2985 views)
Re: Slow twitch? Fast twitch? [luckyleese] [In reply to] Can't Post
This is one of the first sites that I was able to follow and make sense of the threads and sign up etc. When it comes to computers and my brain sometimes there is no twitch.


bikesportgirl

Jan 30, 07 13:11

Post #4 of 306 (2985 views)
Re: Slow twitch? Fast twitch? [fitnessclinic] [In reply to] Can't Post
http://orthopedics.about.com/...alinfo6/a/muscle.htm
"It is not the great things we do in life that really matter, it's the small things we do with a great heart..."-Mother Theresa


..

Jan 30, 07 13:13

Post #5 of 306 (2965 views)
Re: Slow twitch? Fast twitch? [fitnessclinic] [In reply to] Can't Post
You're right, let's change the name of the site to www.TypeI.com... Dan, are you listening?


parkito

Jan 30, 07 13:14

Post #6 of 306 (2953 views)
Re: Slow twitch? Fast twitch? [fitnessclinic] [In reply to] Can't Post

There is no such anatomical difference in muscle. No slow and fast twitch muscle that is. A friend of mine directed me to this site. I had no knoweldge of the "slowtwitch" forum or site untill recently and I find it a surprise that so many by into this theory.

The only twitching that goes on with regard to slow and fast is found in ones head.

Amazingly insightful. Anaylzed all one million posts and summarized on the nose in your first post.

Either that, or your sense of humour is a lot harder to pick up in print.



Behold the turtle! He makes progess only when he sticks his neck out. (James Bryant Conant)
GET OFF THE F*%KING WALL!!!!!!! (Doug Stern)
Brevity is the soul of wit. (William Shakespeare)


fitnessclinic

Jan 30, 07 13:18

Post #7 of 306 (2935 views)
Re: Slow twitch? Fast twitch? [bikesportgirl] [In reply to] Can't Post
"Life is either a daring adventure or nothing. Security does not exist in nature, nor do the childeren of men experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than exposure". Helen Keller


fitnessclinic

Jan 30, 07 13:24

Post #8 of 306 (2901 views)
Re: Slow twitch? Fast twitch? [Paulo] [In reply to] Can't Post
True I did not read anything here. Arthur Jones did it for me in his book entitled "The Lumbar spine, the Cervicle spine and the knee testing and rehabilitation" Copywrite 1993

His words are "we really do not know how muscles work"


Lazy Ben

Jan 30, 07 13:25

Post #9 of 306 (2901 views)
Re: Slow twitch? Fast twitch? [fitnessclinic] [In reply to] Can't Post
Considering you have your occupation down as marketing / fitness information you really are full of crap...

Forget speedwork. Speedwork is the icing on the cake and you don't have a cake yet. - MattinSF


fitnessclinic

Jan 30, 07 13:27

Post #10 of 306 (2889 views)
Re: Slow twitch? Fast twitch? [Lazy Ben] [In reply to] Can't Post
It would be more refreshing if you could intellectually debate. How do you define "full of crap"


JSA

Jan 30, 07 13:30

Post #11 of 306 (2879 views)
Re: Slow twitch? Fast twitch? [fitnessclinic] [In reply to] Can't Post
  
Ok, I'll debate. Because you raised the issue, please provide your empirical evidence to support your assertion that muscle fiber is muscle fiber with no difference. I believe bikesportgirl provided contradictory information. Please respond.


_______________________________________________

"My better is better than your better." - LT, via Nike

The people who keep me moving:

TRANSITION - Get Moving!



(This post was edited by JSA on Jan 30, 07 13:31)


..

Jan 30, 07 13:32

Post #12 of 306 (2860 views)
Re: Slow twitch? Fast twitch? [fitnessclinic] [In reply to] Can't Post
I like to debate. Go read the link that Tom gave you and comeback.


fitnessclinic

Jan 30, 07 13:36

Post #13 of 306 (2848 views)
Re: Slow twitch? Fast twitch? [JSA] [In reply to] Can't Post
I did just that by giving reference to Arthur Jones. Do you know who Arthur jones is? do you know what the following terms mean and please define:
F=MA
d=1/2 A T squared
g=9.8 M sec squared

I'll give you some time to look these up if you do not know, I'll see you when I get back from Starbucks.


irongeek

Jan 30, 07 13:37

Post #14 of 306 (2840 views)
Re: Slow twitch? Fast twitch? [JSA] [In reply to] Can't Post
Which should be an easy task for him/her, given that the website listed by fitnessclinic shows:

"We use the proven fitness research data and information to help you with your customized fitness program. We can answer any and all questions for fitness and nutrition."

But also notes that they won't work with anyone who is at "Ideal Body Weight."


(This post was edited by irongeek on Jan 30, 07 13:38)


Lazy Ben

Jan 30, 07 13:41

Post #15 of 306 (2828 views)
Re: Slow twitch? Fast twitch? [irongeek] [In reply to] Can't Post
Aaarrgh...this is trolltastic...

Forget speedwork. Speedwork is the icing on the cake and you don't have a cake yet. - MattinSF


Jim

Jan 30, 07 13:44

Post #16 of 306 (2816 views)
Re: Slow twitch? Fast twitch? [Lazy Ben] [In reply to] Can't Post
I like this! the guy is in fitness marketing and he is bashing potential clients.

Jim

Casual Triathlete


JSA

Jan 30, 07 13:47

Post #17 of 306 (2812 views)
Re: Slow twitch? Fast twitch? [fitnessclinic] [In reply to] Can't Post
In Reply To:
I did just that by giving reference to Arthur Jones. Do you know who Arthur jones is? do you know what the following terms mean and please define:
F=MA
d=1/2 A T squared
g=9.8 M sec squared

I'll give you some time to look these up if you do not know, I'll see you when I get back from Starbucks.

Well, I assume you mean Arthur Jones, inventor of the Nautilus exercise machine and "creator" of High Intensity Training - a method that has been discredited by many, many "fitness experts."

An additional fun fact is that Arthur Jones has a total of fourteen relatives who are medical doctors.

However, that does not respond to the question. Identify where Jones established that there is no distinction between fast and slow twitch muscles.

Hope you used the drive thru at Starbucks...


_______________________________________________

"My better is better than your better." - LT, via Nike

The people who keep me moving:

TRANSITION - Get Moving!



Slowman

Jan 30, 07 13:55

Post #18 of 306 (2782 views)
Re: Slow twitch? Fast twitch? [Paulo] [In reply to] Can't Post
"Dan, are you listening?"

is it type1man you wish to address?


Dan Empfield
aka Slowman


bikesportgirl

Jan 30, 07 13:56

Post #19 of 306 (2775 views)
Re: Slow twitch? Fast twitch? [fitnessclinic] [In reply to] Can't Post
Arthur Jones-founder of Nautilis Inc.
"It is not the great things we do in life that really matter, it's the small things we do with a great heart..."-Mother Theresa


bikesportgirl

Jan 30, 07 13:57

Post #20 of 306 (2767 views)
Re: Slow twitch? Fast twitch? [bikesportgirl] [In reply to] Can't Post
Oh, and....uh...maybe you should read some of the writings disputing Jones' philosophies
"It is not the great things we do in life that really matter, it's the small things we do with a great heart..."-Mother Theresa


Trianthes

Jan 30, 07 13:58

Post #21 of 306 (2755 views)
Re: Slow twitch? Fast twitch? [fitnessclinic] [In reply to] Can't Post
Swimfan?


fitnessclinic

Jan 30, 07 13:58

Post #22 of 306 (2754 views)
Re: Slow twitch? Fast twitch? [JSA] [In reply to] Can't Post
Yes, what about the rest of my question?

T


fitnessclinic

Jan 30, 07 14:00

Post #23 of 306 (2746 views)
Re: Slow twitch? Fast twitch? [Trianthes] [In reply to] Can't Post
Yes


Tri-Atlanta

Jan 30, 07 14:00

Post #24 of 306 (2747 views)
Re: Slow twitch? Fast twitch? [fitnessclinic] [In reply to] Can't Post
If I am not mistaken, Arthur Jones is the one that popularized slow twitch vs. fast twitch. Are you saying that he has reversed his position? If so, he may be need to refund quite a bit of Nautilus equipment purchases!


JSA

Jan 30, 07 14:02

Post #25 of 306 (2742 views)
Re: Slow twitch? Fast twitch? [fitnessclinic] [In reply to] Can't Post
In Reply To:
Yes, what about the rest of my question?

T

You haven't responded to any of mine. You are new to this "debating" thing, aren't you?

So, do I have to pay $129 for Initial Counseling and Setup and $79 per month to get you to respond to the rest?

You set forth the premise. The burden of going forward rests with you...


_______________________________________________

"My better is better than your better." - LT, via Nike

The people who keep me moving:

TRANSITION - Get Moving!


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