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KINGMurphy'sLaw

Jun 22, 08 16:56

Post #26 of 161 (8460 views)

Re: Kuota and Norminator no more? [Flaco] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Even TJ doesn't have a Transition yet.... ;-p

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Red Devil

Jun 22, 08 17:00

Post #27 of 161 (8448 views)

Re: Kuota and Norminator no more? [Murphy'sLaw] [In reply to]	Can't Post

I still think he is going to be getting his teams stickers on the frame. Look at his helmet, the Giro is gone and in its place is his teams sponsor stickers

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Triburger

Jun 22, 08 17:04

Post #28 of 161 (8429 views)

Re: Kuota and Norminator no more? [Red Devil] [In reply to]	Can't Post

His helmet was that way last year in Kona.
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GregX

Jun 22, 08 17:13

Post #29 of 161 (8402 views)

Re: Kuota and Norminator no more? [Klep] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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You don't need a good TT bike.. or at least not the best. Look at Chrissie Wellington last year in Kona.

uh, chrissie wellington was on a p2c, which is one of the best production tt bikes in the world.

Where would you want to swim ?

Tri Slow Poke

Jun 22, 08 17:17

Post #30 of 161 (8387 views)

Re: Kuota and Norminator no more? [Flaco] [In reply to]	Can't Post

No clue. I just know that I saw TJ at a race recently and he had a Transition.

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- 1 Corinthians 9:24

Flaco

Jun 22, 08 17:53

Post #31 of 161 (8305 views)

Re: Kuota and Norminator no more? [Tri Slow Poke] [In reply to]	Can't Post

ok so wait, Murphy is tellin me that Tj doesnt have the Transition and you have seen him with it lol...who is right!?

"Fear is what drives you in the last part of a marathon in an Ironman. The body is depleted and the mind is fuzzy. Short course racing is driven by power and finese at the end of a race, Ironman demands so much more and is driven by will and mental strength." Chris McCormack

10/28/08 Dev Paul had 400w FTP!!!

show pony

Jun 22, 08 18:01

Post #32 of 161 (8278 views)

Re: Kuota and Norminator no more? [Flaco] [In reply to]	Can't Post

IIRC correctly its a TYR ad right? Well they probably had a shoot on that day in that location for a number of industry-related products, but not specifically Kuota bikes. Maybe they had some Profile Design aerobars on it for another shoot (Paul Thomas?), then they had this guy jump on the same bike for his TYR ad, then perhaps another for a Continental ad, etc, so anything not intentionally advertised would be hidden or photo-shopped out...like the Kuota badges. Just my 2c...

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couchweight

Jun 22, 08 18:02

Post #33 of 161 (8272 views)

Re: Kuota and Norminator no more? [Murphy'sLaw] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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Even TJ doesn't have a Transition yet.... ;-p

I guess he's doing something wrong. I've had mine for almost 7 months now. :-)
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goallout

Jun 22, 08 18:06

Post #34 of 161 (8255 views)

Re: Kuota and Norminator no more? [gregX] [In reply to]	Can't Post

That is a ridiculous statement. I'm not a Kuota rider so i'm not defending my steed. Yea that bike is sooo slow. Have we forgotten that the bike course record of 4:18 @26mph was set upon a Kuota 2 years back? So if he rides 2 seconds faster in another year on a different frame will you all say "see the Kuota was a terrible aerodynamic bike."? It's the legs, not the bike.

Flaco

Jun 22, 08 18:10

Post #35 of 161 (8241 views)

Re: Kuota and Norminator no more? [show pony] [In reply to]	Can't Post

yea i believe thats the add... your reasoning could be, makes sense that they could have photo-shopped the brand name off the bike... its clearly a Kuota and that was the second unbadged one ive seen this yr, cant remember the first though

"Fear is what drives you in the last part of a marathon in an Ironman. The body is depleted and the mind is fuzzy. Short course racing is driven by power and finese at the end of a race, Ironman demands so much more and is driven by will and mental strength." Chris McCormack

10/28/08 Dev Paul had 400w FTP!!!

Lavery

Jun 22, 08 18:11

Post #36 of 161 (8240 views)

Re: Kuota and Norminator no more? [goallout] [In reply to]	Can't Post

I think the statement that its poor on the aerodynamics is somewhat true, as the only time it saw the windtunnel was after it was already in production...so I am sure going against other frames that were developed in the windtunnel, it would perform poorly.

But yes, it isnt the bike, its the rider.

paulthomas

Jun 22, 08 18:22

Post #37 of 161 (8198 views)

Re: Kuota and Norminator no more? [Tri Slow Poke] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Once his 1088gram frame was built for KONA, it weighed only 15.7lbs. Light enough for most.....

Tri Slow Poke

Jun 22, 08 18:27

Post #38 of 161 (8160 views)

Re: Kuota and Norminator no more? [paulthomas] [In reply to]	Can't Post

So what's the deal? Are the rumors true about Normann and Kuota splitting?

Did you not know that in a race all runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize.
- 1 Corinthians 9:24

paulthomas

Jun 22, 08 18:38

Post #39 of 161 (8111 views)

Re: Kuota and Norminator no more? [Tri Slow Poke] [In reply to]	Can't Post

I will always say that there were 2 elements that put KUOTA on the map:

1. Normann winning Kona in 2004, scorching the KUEEN K Hwy on his Kalibur. Normann is one of a few triathlete that have the ability to sell bikes, and that is by riding the hell out of the bike leg.

2. Cervelo and a few of the other brands could not deliver bikes in 2005. From there, Kuota was born.

To answer the TJ question, he was given a Kueen K to test. He was never a KUOTA sponsored athlete, but cross my fingers to work with him someday. TJ has tons of talent, personality, and most importantly is availavble for his sponsors....while he rides the hell out of his bike!

PT

Tri Slow Poke

Jun 22, 08 18:38

Post #40 of 161 (8111 views)

Re: Kuota and Norminator no more? [Flaco] [In reply to]	Can't Post

I saw him at a race w/ a Transition. I can't confirm Murphy's info.

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KINGMurphy'sLaw

Jun 22, 08 18:42

Post #41 of 161 (8101 views)

Re: Kuota and Norminator no more? [Tri Slow Poke] [In reply to]	Can't Post

I'm sorry folks, it was just a (poor) joke.

Folks have been complaining here about lack of delivery of Transitions for the last few months....
... I have no idea what TJ does or does not currently ride.

Carry on, as you were, smoke 'em if ya got 'em.

Whomever signs Normann is going to be PSYCHED. If he can ride that Kuota that fast, imagine when he's on an even more aero framed bike?

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(This post was edited by Murphy'sLaw on Jun 22, 08 18:53)

Tri Slow Poke

Jun 22, 08 18:44

Post #42 of 161 (8088 views)

Re: Kuota and Norminator no more? [Murphy'sLaw] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Don't worry. I got the joke ;-)

Did you not know that in a race all runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize.
- 1 Corinthians 9:24

trail

Jun 22, 08 18:55

Post #43 of 161 (8051 views)

Re: Kuota and Norminator no more? [swimfan] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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There are a lot of things preventing him winning again and design of the bike is not the first thing on the list. Lets start with his giant ego. He has to tame that first and then he might reach the class of others.
The class of others? What class would that be? 3+ time Ironman World Champions? Which would, be, what 3 guys, currently?

Or am I missing the sarcasm in this post?

JSA

Jun 22, 08 19:46

Post #44 of 161 (7956 views)

Re: Kuota and Norminator no more? [Tri Slow Poke] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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I saw him at a race w/ a Transition. I can't confirm Murphy's info.

At IM 70.3 KS? If so, me too. He was there a week ago w/ a Specialized Transition. Too bad. He used to ride a Guru Crono (my bike).

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Madscientist

Jun 23, 08 10:56

Post #45 of 161 (7499 views)

Re: Kuota and Norminator no more? [Herbert] [In reply to]	Can't Post

I bet Norman will be on a Cervelo for Kona. Cervelo has extra money now that Bjorn left and they would love to have the Kona Bike split record I know Norman can do it.

Fleck

Jun 23, 08 11:05

Post #46 of 161 (7456 views)

Re: Kuota and Norminator no more? [Tri Slow Poke] [In reply to]	Can't Post

It doesn't look any better or wore than the Kalibur and it worked just fine for him.

Note, not a knock on Kuota - just a general comment: I don't know much about the physics of bike aerodynamics, but I do know that looks can be deceiving. There are more than a few bikes out there that look aerodynamic, but once tested, suddenly are not so aerodynamic compared th the real winnners in the category.

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Rappstar

Jun 23, 08 11:18

Post #47 of 161 (7392 views)

Re: Kuota and Norminator no more? [Murphy'sLaw] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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Even TJ doesn't have a Transition yet.... ;-p

He's actually had it for a while. He raced Arizona on it. Just to clarify since people seemed confused.

napoleon

Jun 23, 08 13:01

Post #48 of 161 (7171 views)

Re: Kuota and Norminator no more? [Herbert] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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There is rumor in Europe that the Norminator may not ride Kuota anymore. He was seen at a recent triathlon with the Kuota logos of his Kuota Kueen K covered.

Herbert

Hey guys,

I will not ride a Kuota in Frankfurt. Lets wait and see.... ;-).

Normann

bpq

Jun 23, 08 13:05

Post #49 of 161 (7134 views)

Re: Kuota and Norminator no more? [napoleon] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Based on this I am predicting a new bike course record at Kona this year! :-)

Good luck in Frankfurt.

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pito00

Jun 23, 08 13:05

Post #50 of 161 (7124 views)

Re: Kuota and Norminator no more? [napoleon] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Thanks for the response Normann.

Now let the speculation begin! Slap a 1080 rear wheel and some aerobars on this bad boy and I think Normann's got world championship #3 wrapped up.

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(This post was edited by pito00 on Jun 23, 08 13:06)

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