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kaihawaii

Jul 4, 08 12:50

Post #51 of 84 (1890 views)

Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [Francois] [In reply to]	Can't Post

thomas hellriegel is doing really well this year, with some fast bike splits and even solid run performances he never showed since 2002. maybe it's his 2nd little comeback for hell on wheels after his 4th place in kona (2002) and some injuries, that cost him a lot of running abilities.

far time back, 1995 and 1997, hellriegel was not only strong on the bike, he was also able to compete against guys like simon lessing on the short distance (non drafting) ITU races. he lost a little his running skills and speed due his extensive power-oriented bike training...
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devashish_paul

Jul 4, 08 12:52

Post #52 of 84 (1879 views)

Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [jonnyo] [In reply to]	Can't Post

...and then back it up 6 weeks later in Kona with an 8:06 with a 2:46 run....likely the greatest back to back IM performances ever. The amazing thing about Hellriegel's time at IMC, is that the pavement was fairly rough for long stretches, and this was on the old slower bike course that brought you back down to OK falls, before returning to town along the run route on skaha...and he had no motorcade to break wind for him like there has always been in Kona or Roth....

CERVELOMAD

Jul 4, 08 13:02

Post #53 of 84 (1845 views)

Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [M~] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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So being an Ironman UK winner, if you were to go back there and try and win again as a past champion and had to pull out right before the race ,could we then speculate that the pressure to win (since you had already won there once before), must have been too great and you were likely juiced up?

Honestly, what you insinuated is beyond stupid. And I doubt very much your sponsors would want you talking like that .

Hi M~
Mate did I say he was Juiced up??? Get a life! Drugs are in our sport and he hasn't won in Germany in years!! It's great to see that Ironman German is doing Blood tests and I'm just say he was talking it up in the last Thread on him then all of a sudden he's a DNS!!!
It's all good stick mate so H.T.F.U!!!!

Flaco

Jul 4, 08 13:43

Post #54 of 84 (1756 views)

Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [CERVELOMAD] [In reply to]	Can't Post

You know what I dont get, just like you said, why come on here and talk and hype up his appearance there with his new bike and everything and then DNS...somethings up, injury sounds like back when I played tennis, a cover up!

"Fear is what drives you in the last part of a marathon in an Ironman. The body is depleted and the mind is fuzzy. Short course racing is driven by power and finese at the end of a race, Ironman demands so much more and is driven by will and mental strength." Chris McCormack
10/28/08 Dev Paul had 400w FTP!!!
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M~

Jul 4, 08 13:53

Post #55 of 84 (1725 views)

Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [CERVELOMAD] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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Well I do hope that Normann picked up his Ironman Germany race number as they are doing Blood test for all pro athletes so if he doesn't get blood taken there will be a huge amount of speculation thrown on Normann!
Food for thought!

I apologize. But just to clarify, what did you mean by the above statement then?

Haim

Jul 4, 08 13:53

Post #56 of 84 (1722 views)

Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [jonnyo] [In reply to]	Can't Post

"It s simply insane to go this fast on that course.... i really wonder if we will ever see such thing again......"
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I totally agree...I can't even imagine how Thomas did that on that course.

Haim

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aerobike

Jul 4, 08 13:55

Post #57 of 84 (1718 views)

Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [kaihawaii] [In reply to]	Can't Post

I like Stadler. I think he is very underrated and doesn't get the respect he deserves. But am curious. So come October, will it have been 2 years since Stadler last completed an Ironman? He DNFd Ironman Germany '07 and Kona '07 and now will have DNSd Germany '08. That doesn't seem to bode well for Kona '08.

Raul

Jul 4, 08 13:56

Post #58 of 84 (1714 views)

Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [devashish_paul] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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Dude....come on...smack talk is great...we all love it...keep it coming. Normann has never failed a single test. Be careful what you say in an open forum. You should not better. It is completely unfair to even speculate and I believe it is against the forum rules. The guy is a 2xKona champion and does not deserve this type of innuendo.

In all due respect, how come you didn't say anything about any of the Micheal Phelps or Dara Torres allegations made very openly and recently here in several threads? Is it more unfair/inflammatory when someone references a triathlete here on ST?

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lunchbox

Jul 4, 08 13:59

Post #59 of 84 (1704 views)

Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [CERVELOMAD] [In reply to]	Can't Post

The insinuation is definitely there. Not very professional, but it's your career, huh?

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Willrace4food

Jul 4, 08 14:37

Post #60 of 84 (1635 views)

Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [Shane D] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler
As 3athlon.de reports as of today, 2x IM World Champion Normann Stadler will not compete at Ironman European Championship in Frankfurt on July, 6th due an older not complete healed infection/cold.

SRC: http://www.3athlon.de/...it_startverzicht.php

Is infection a code word for "scared shitless of Macca"???

Did you mean to say YOU were scared of Macca?

If not, you should go post somewhere else, like MySpace or something simpler.

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MTRIB

Jul 4, 08 14:37

Post #61 of 84 (1633 views)

Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [lunchbox] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Does Normann need a spot to IM Hawaii ? Or as he is 2x champion, he have spot "forever" ?

lunchbox

Jul 4, 08 14:41

Post #62 of 84 (1628 views)

Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [MTRIB] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Not that I've even needed to look at these rules... but I think it's good for the next year only. Somebody here is bound to know for sure.

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jonnyo

Jul 4, 08 14:48

Post #63 of 84 (1614 views)

Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [lunchbox] [In reply to]	Can't Post

winner are invited to the race for life!

that is why dave scott can show up this year.... and many other pass winnner show up to the race without qualifying...

i think it s a good privilege for winner such race.

Jonathan Caron
Professional Triathlete and Coach
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lunchbox

Jul 4, 08 14:50

Post #64 of 84 (1606 views)

Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [jonnyo] [In reply to]	Can't Post

See? I knew somebody would know. I must be thinking of AG winners. Thanks jonnyo!

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ejohns3992

Jul 4, 08 14:55

Post #65 of 84 (1590 views)

Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [M~] [In reply to]	Can't Post

I took that to mean, hopefully he pickup up his number, cause if he did, that would mean, he submitted a test. What Bryan meant, was if he dropped out, after finding out he was going to be tested, it would possibly look like he was hiding something and the accusations would start.

TriBiker

Jul 4, 08 15:08

Post #66 of 84 (1562 views)

Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [ejohns3992] [In reply to]	Can't Post

For me Hellriegel's '96 IMC race is the single best IM performance. I don't think anyone will best 8:09 on that course. And yes, his Hawaii bike record finally fell to Sindballe, but if I remember correctly, Thomas would still have it if they included transition time as they did then. Can anyone verify this?

Also, didn't Peter Reid win IMC and Kona back to back one year?

ejohns3992

Jul 4, 08 15:19

Post #67 of 84 (1534 views)

Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [CarlyBoy] [In reply to]	Can't Post

I believe it was the year both he and Lori won

de-tri-mental

Jul 4, 08 15:32

Post #68 of 84 (1504 views)

Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [CERVELOMAD] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Yes, you implied that.

I would suggest you get your facts straight before you spout off on ST.
If you would have done your homework, you would have come across a snippet stating that he volunteered to get tested even so he will not be racing.

But you are probably mediocre at everything, so no surprise about the half-baked comments and 2nd-grader trash talk.

If you are a sponsored athlete, I bet your sponsors gonna be thrilled about you badmouthing other fellow professional athletes.
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trackie clm

Jul 4, 08 15:46

Post #69 of 84 (1478 views)

Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [CERVELOMAD] [In reply to]	Can't Post

B honey, you're kind of being a dick.

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cuds

Jul 4, 08 15:47

Post #70 of 84 (1472 views)

Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [trackie clm] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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B honey, you're kind of being a dick.

clm

Well said.
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cortez

Jul 4, 08 17:28

Post #71 of 84 (1352 views)

Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [de-tri-mental] [In reply to]	Can't Post

He wasn't implying anything if you can actually read properly which obviously you can't.

There is no badmouthing going on at all.

Normann hasn't finished an Ironman since....well Kona 2006. He has admitted in interviews he made up the stories about Macca drafting in 2006 just to cause a stir. Do you think that's fair and professional? Well I don't. I think it stinks.

I think you'll find he did plenty of bad mouthing but for some reason none of you ever bring that up as your'e too busy trying to kiss Normann's ass. He was bang out of order plain and simple

Macca had the balls to front him up and Normann has failed to answer - DNF in Kona, DNS in Germany. Simple as that and pretty weak.

And he's disappointed a hell of a lot of people by pulling out of this race. He's good at the talk but it seems Macca is the only one to have the balls to walk the walk.

kaihawaii

Jul 4, 08 21:35

Post #72 of 84 (1187 views)

Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [CERVELOMAD] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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he was for sure at the pre-competition testing, as all of the attending pros as well. as well they're tested not only right before the race, also during the preparation, starting in early 2008 - "Eiserne Transparenz", "Iron Transparency" with their blood testing methods incl. off-score, etc. is a good move in the right direction...
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kaihawaii

Jul 4, 08 21:38

Post #73 of 84 (1180 views)

Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [CarlyBoy] [In reply to]	Can't Post

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i would say the same, because:
1. old (slower) bike course
2. incl. t-times
3. the streets didn't had the new tarmac and pavement big island is now offering to their ironman. it's the same at IM lanzarote. also lot's of improvements on the streets the last 1-2 years...
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kai 'kaihawaii' baumgartner

CERVELOMAD

Jul 4, 08 22:21

Post #74 of 84 (1137 views)

Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [kaihawaii] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Thanks Kai
Thats what we wanted to hear!! You were there so would know a lot more than us!I really think this is a great move forward in Triathlon racing!! It's got to be done like this so there is no actuations!!
Cheers

LMT

Jul 5, 08 3:33

Post #75 of 84 (778 views)

Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [cortez] [In reply to]	Can't Post

He says on ironmanlive that he's racing in Lake Placid....2 weeks. Lets see if he shows or lets see if his infection clears by then :)
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