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Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler

 

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Francois

Jul 4, 08 8:49

Post #26 of 84 (2333 views)
Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [devashish_paul] [In reply to] Can't Post

I'd like to see him go after Hellriegel's monumental record at IMC...now THAT is an amazing record.


SteveMc

Jul 4, 08 8:53

Post #27 of 84 (2317 views)
Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [Francois] [In reply to] Can't Post

I agree sub 8:10 on that course is amazing. As good as a low 7:50 in Roth.. Lieto might have ridden faster but to run well on that hilly course afterwards takes a lot of strength.
And didn't he go for a 100+km ride the next day..
SteveMc


M~

Jul 4, 08 8:56

Post #28 of 84 (2302 views)
Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [SteveMc] [In reply to] Can't Post


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I agree sub 8:10 on that course is amazing. As good as a low 7:50 in Roth.. Lieto might have ridden faster but to run well on that hilly course afterwards takes a lot of strength.
And didn't he go for a 100+km ride the next day..
SteveMc

 
I wonder though, does anyone who goes 8:10 at Canada even stand a chance at winning Hawaii 2 months later? Personally, I think anyone who qualifies at Canada should get deferred entry to Kona to the following year. Especially the pros.


SteveMc

Jul 4, 08 9:01

Post #29 of 84 (2291 views)
Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [M~] [In reply to] Can't Post

I agree but those were the days when Thomas trained and raced himself sick.
SteveMc


Haim

Jul 4, 08 9:01

Post #30 of 84 (2291 views)
Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [Francois] [In reply to] Can't Post

"I'd like to see him go after Hellriegel's monumental record at IMC...now THAT is an amazing record. "
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I believe that it is now Chris Lieto's "monumental record at IMC".

Haim

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"Sometimes you need to think INSIDE the box!" -- ME



devashish_paul

Jul 4, 08 9:13

Post #31 of 84 (2253 views)
Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [M~] [In reply to] Can't Post

Yes, Hellriegel went 8:09 at IMC 1996 and then backed it up with a second overall 8:06 at Kona including a blazing 2:46 run off a 4:2x bike....so perhaps most athletes don't stand a chance, but when you lose to LVL's 8:04 Kona record, that's as good as it gets


cortez

Jul 4, 08 9:16

Post #32 of 84 (2241 views)
Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [CERVELOMAD] [In reply to] Can't Post

Exactly my point too but I've been told my opinion is bollocks. The facts show that when the going get's tough Macca thrives on it, others melt under the pressure.

To me that's a true champion.


M~

Jul 4, 08 9:16

Post #33 of 84 (2240 views)
Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [devashish_paul] [In reply to] Can't Post

Wow....that I did not know. That's crazy!!
I wonder if he was able to tap into a training regime that REALLY worked for him in those two months or if he just got lucky? Either way, that is impressive .


SteveMc

Jul 4, 08 9:20

Post #34 of 84 (2222 views)
Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [M~] [In reply to] Can't Post

His approach back then was to "train HHHrd, wery hhard"
Lots of 40plus hour weeks which worked for a time and then.. not
SteveMc


devashish_paul

Jul 4, 08 9:34

Post #35 of 84 (2181 views)
Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [SteveMc] [In reply to] Can't Post

Amazingly enough, he posted a career best 4:16 bike at Roth last year....

M~, there was nothing magic in between IMLP and Kona...actually I believe it was his 7th or 8th ironman in a span of ~18 months (Lanzarote-Roth-Hawaii-NZ?-Lanzarote-Roth-IMC-Hawaii). We can confirm once the xtri.com race database is working...seems a bit flakey right now


M~

Jul 4, 08 9:42

Post #36 of 84 (2153 views)
Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [devashish_paul] [In reply to] Can't Post

Do you mean IMLP or IMC ?
Although it isn't nearly the same, I always feel better when I race myself into shape rather than training myself into shape. ;)
Still, how those guys were able to do that to their bodies is truly beyond my comprehension. My little flabby boy body just couldn't take that abuse!
M~


SteveMc

Jul 4, 08 9:44

Post #37 of 84 (2148 views)
Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [devashish_paul] [In reply to] Can't Post

It's his running that hasn't been great recently. Shame as he really was the Ironman personified. Good news is that he's meant to be fit and strong this year.
SteveMc


Tri Slow Poke

Jul 4, 08 9:57

Post #38 of 84 (2105 views)
Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [cortez] [In reply to] Can't Post


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Exactly my point too but I've been told my opinion is bollocks. The facts show that when the going get's tough Macca thrives on it, others melt under the pressure.

To me that's a true champion.

  Man, you're tough. Normann's first DNF came from flat tires. His second came from a stomach virus. I hardly call that "melting under pressure".



Did you not know that in a race all runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize.
- 1 Corinthians 9:24


devashish_paul

Jul 4, 08 10:00

Post #39 of 84 (2096 views)
Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [M~] [In reply to] Can't Post

I meant IMC


M~

Jul 4, 08 10:02

Post #40 of 84 (2090 views)
Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [devashish_paul] [In reply to] Can't Post


In Reply To
I meant IMC

 


Got IMLP on the brain eh? ;)


devashish_paul

Jul 4, 08 10:05

Post #41 of 84 (2083 views)
Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [M~] [In reply to] Can't Post

Just looking forward to seeing what Normann can do at IMLP....what will be the final pecking order between Hellriegel, Larsen, Stadler and Bjorn as LP Uberbiker????


M~

Jul 4, 08 10:12

Post #42 of 84 (2065 views)
Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [devashish_paul] [In reply to] Can't Post

That will be exciting. Tell you what, I will give you a split time coming up Papa Bear as to where you are with respect to the Normannator. :)


devashish_paul

Jul 4, 08 10:17

Post #43 of 84 (2055 views)
Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [M~] [In reply to] Can't Post

My goal as always is only to get onto run loop 2 before the first pros finish. 2 years ago I was leaving Mirror Lake drive just as Dr. Tommy and Victor came flying up


Francois

Jul 4, 08 11:19

Post #44 of 84 (1945 views)
Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [Haim] [In reply to] Can't Post


In Reply To
"I'd like to see him go after Hellriegel's monumental record at IMC...now THAT is an amazing record. "
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I believe that it is now Chris Lieto's "monumental record at IMC".

Haim

 
I'm talking about the real record...the one where you back it up with an awesome run..CL went fast, but nowhere near the 8.09 of Hellriegel


Haim

Jul 4, 08 11:27

Post #45 of 84 (1923 views)
Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [Francois] [In reply to] Can't Post

"I'm talking about the real record...the one where you back it up with an awesome run.."
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Ahhhh...my bad.

i guess I have a hard time imagining Normann pulling off a sub 2:50 run after riding a record/near record bike pace in order to go 8:09.

Haim

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"Sometimes you need to think INSIDE the box!" -- ME



trichicksrock

Jul 4, 08 11:33

Post #46 of 84 (1902 views)
Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [Mighty Mouse] [In reply to] Can't Post

I'll be cheering for Michael Gohner...I'm interested to see how he'll stack up against Macca. ...and for the AG's, good luck to Team Free Radicals.


BIGZACH

Jul 4, 08 11:56

Post #47 of 84 (1850 views)
Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [kaihawaii] [In reply to] Can't Post

I'll be rooting for the "Prince" (Faris) and the "Combine Driver" (Niclas B.)


TEAM WAFFLE HOUSE - 2008


jonnyo

Jul 4, 08 12:17

Post #48 of 84 (1797 views)
Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [Haim] [In reply to] Can't Post


In Reply To
"I'd like to see him go after Hellriegel's monumental record at IMC...now THAT is an amazing record. "
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I believe that it is now Chris Lieto's "monumental record at IMC".

Haim

 
like francois said.... Hellriegal IMC course record is in my opinion the greates ironman performance of the history of the sport. It s simply insane to go this fast on that course.... i really wonder if we will ever see such thing again......


Lieto did put a on a amazing bike split but didnt go anywhere near as fast overall....

Jonathan Caron
Professional Triathlete and Coach
jonnyoworld.blogspot.com


BIGZACH

Jul 4, 08 12:22

Post #49 of 84 (1778 views)
Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [jonnyo] [In reply to] Can't Post

I taught him everything he knows..haha.


TEAM WAFFLE HOUSE - 2008


Francois

Jul 4, 08 12:27

Post #50 of 84 (1916 views)
Re: Ironman Frankfurt 2008: DNS Normann Stadler [BIGZACH] [In reply to] Can't Post

Sorry...I can't resist...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KXScJSUDPPI

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