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devashish_paul

Oct 27, 09 6:17

Post #326 of 431 (499 views)

Re: Falling Running Challenge ???? [Murphy'sLaw] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Well, between all you can eat business lunches and dinner today, I pretty well undid any good I did from the training this morning. ML, I agree that 10K per day is a lot for a triathlete, but I actually figured that most people on the running challenge and focusing mainly on running now. When I am in full blown tri season 60K per week is pretty solid for me. Last few days in Asia have been 60-90 minutes every day, but as soon as I get home, its big time biking as I just lost ~10 days of bike training. I try to get on the hotel exercise bike daily and do 20-30 minutes worth of 1-2min long high intensity intervals but with weird seat angles, fore-aft, saddle heights, saddle shapes, Q factors like you are riding a horse, crank lengths etc I just can't stand these hotel bikes for any more than 30 minutes. The good thing about being on the road, is that I actually have pool access, whether it was the 30+m outdoor pool at the hotel in China or the 12.5m pool at the hotel in Japan, I try to get some pool time in daily which is better than my "once or twice a week" at home.

Yes, I will be in the 45-49 age group in 2010....USAT gives everyone a birthday party on Jan 1, but it also means that if we are doing the same race, there is a good chance we exit T1 together.

By the way, when does your ST hiatus start. I'm wondering if you've posted the 2010 smackdown thread yet. Being on 12-13 hour time lag, I may have missed it!

Dev

www.kestrelbicycles.com |www.infinitnutrition.ca | www.nineteenwetsuits.com
Free camps: Whiteface Hill Climb + Epicman Lake Placid 3k/180k/21k June 10/11 2010

fred_h

Oct 27, 09 7:20

Post #327 of 431 (489 views)

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Happy Birthday!

No plan to hit the Platinium club for me. Gold+/Platinium- was the plan but with surgery on Nov 5th I think I will be out at least 4 days (which I do not mind at all) and I do not plan on banking miles just for the challenge & I would rather do "as much biking" as possible since outdoor days are soon over).
But I will kick some ass during the winter run challenge (and hopefully do some swimming after 9 to 10 months off).

Fred.

miTmite

Oct 27, 09 8:05

Post #328 of 431 (480 views)

Re: Falling Running Challenge ???? [devashish_paul] [In reply to]	Can't Post

OMG I'm older than you (but only by a few months) ;)
Happy b-day!
I'm out of the challenge. This calf injury is doing me in; I can ride and swim but the running isn't there. ART is helping but it's slow going. I'm in the midst of a HUGE pity party right now. Wah.

"A merry heart doeth good like medicine." (Proverbs 17:22)

bmanners

Oct 30, 09 11:17

Post #329 of 431 (460 views)

Re: Falling Running Challenge ???? [miTmite] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Good luck on the calf just make sure you dont "milk" it....... LOL
Did 16 miles today around a 8 min 20 second pace. Had 3 close encounters with dogs today. Strange not many all year and three in one run. Okay 8 min 20 sec pace thats a "jog" to you guys. Well I handled the dogs by running right at em and barking back. The one owner who was out there must have thought I was nuts. Anyway on my way to my first 60 mile week ever. Six mile run tommorow and a four mile run Sunday will give me 60.8 miles. You know I am doing that extra .20 miles. Probably make both runs a 10k. Then take a day off of running as bike has been neglected last three weeks or so.

tigerchik

Oct 30, 09 13:07

Post #330 of 431 (436 views)

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Hip is getting better, hopefully back to running soon. I miss it.
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mmm, pi!

devashish_paul

Oct 30, 09 13:16

Post #331 of 431 (431 views)

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No runninng today. Flew back from Japan and was wide awake at 4:30 am. Had breakfast and did a 2 hour computrainer ride averaging 220W and was pretty well done by the time my son and wife woke up. Spent the rest of the day catching up on work in a jetlagged haze. I had plans to run in the afternoon, but I'm going to take the rest of the day off running and try to put another solid day tomorrow.

TC, glad to see you are getting better. Just ease back in and you'll be good to go.

Dev

www.kestrelbicycles.com |www.infinitnutrition.ca | www.nineteenwetsuits.com
Free camps: Whiteface Hill Climb + Epicman Lake Placid 3k/180k/21k June 10/11 2010

Chris G

Oct 30, 09 13:16

Post #332 of 431 (431 views)

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After a few runs in the cold rain this week yesterday's 70 degree or so run in the South and this morning's 50 degree run were great. Not quite ready for hats and gloves every morning just yet.

miTmite

Oct 30, 09 15:46

Post #333 of 431 (419 views)

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Anyway on my way to my first 60 mile week ever.

i'm so jealous.

"A merry heart doeth good like medicine." (Proverbs 17:22)

bmanners

Oct 30, 09 19:28

Post #334 of 431 (408 views)

Re: Falling Running Challenge ???? [miTmite] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Dont be my knees felt it walking around the hood tomight with the kids. A good hurt though.

tigerchik

Oct 31, 09 4:03

Post #335 of 431 (402 views)

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When I get back to training I am going to

not run as much
swim more
ride on the trainer frequently throughout the week

the biggest mistake I made in getting hurt was running too much.

Feeling impatient, and still in a little pain today so just resting. You know that feeling in which you just want to fast forward your life?! :-)
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mmm, pi!

(This post was edited by tigerchik on Oct 31, 09 4:03)

KINGMurphy'sLaw

Oct 31, 09 6:06

Post #336 of 431 (388 views)

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<< the biggest mistake I made in getting hurt was running too much. >>

Ya think? HOW LONG have folks been telling you that for?

"yes, but I really like to run". Yes, but getting injured and not being able to run *at all* SUCKS.

(I'm guilty of the same thing, I ramped up my run volume these past few weeks to prep for Philly, and now have exascerbated the issue I've been having w/ my foot. I hope to GOD it is not an oncoming stress fracture. Trying to work around it, taking days off, etc. Wish me luck... )

TC - read BarryP's awesome threads for more guidance for when you come back. I think his 1-2-3 schedule of L-run, M-runs, EZ-runs is something you should use as the MAXIMUM you should be doing. I probably do something more like 1-1-4 or 1-1-3 myself most of the time.

float , hammer , and jog

*** On hiatus from 11/1/09 - 4/1/10 ***

tigerchik

Oct 31, 09 6:12

Post #337 of 431 (387 views)

Re: Falling Running Challenge ???? [Murphy'sLaw] [In reply to]	Can't Post

In Reply To:

<< the biggest mistake I made in getting hurt was running too much. >>

Ya think? HOW LONG have folks been telling you that for?

Several years. Unfortunately, no matter how many times I am told things, I still insist on learning them the hard way. It's an unforgiving trait.

In Reply To:

"yes, but I really like to run". Yes, but getting injured and not being able to run *at all* SUCKS

Word. see above

In Reply To:

(I'm guilty of the same thing, I ramped up my run volume these past few weeks to prep for Philly, and now have exascerbated the issue I've been having w/ my foot. I hope to GOD it is not an oncoming stress fracture. Trying to work around it, taking days off, etc. Wish me luck... )

I hope that you don't have a sfx. Do you know what you can do though - SWIM ;-)

In Reply To:

TC - read BarryP's awesome threads for more guidance for when you come back. I think his 1-2-3 schedule of L-run, M-runs, EZ-runs is something you should use as the MAXIMUM you should be doing. I probably do something more like 1-1-4 or 1-1-3 myself most of the time.

When DD got hurt this fall his first run back was five minutes... I need to channel the self control to only run for five minutes when I am starting again...

In all seriousness, I hope that your foot issues resolve, and why are you doing Philly when you told me AmZof was supposed to be the end of the season? Anyway - GOOD LUCK - go get in the POOL!!!!!!!!! where it is hard to hurt things.

xoxo
Alyie
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mmm, pi!

KINGMurphy'sLaw

Oct 31, 09 6:33

Post #338 of 431 (386 views)

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<< go get in the POOL!!!!!!!!! where it is hard to hurt things. >>

Yes, except my soul. ;-)

float , hammer , and jog

*** On hiatus from 11/1/09 - 4/1/10 ***

bmanners

Oct 31, 09 7:30

Post #339 of 431 (379 views)

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Good luck at Philly!!!!!!!!!! and I hope your foot holds out through philly and beyond. Wanted to do Philly but waited to long. Then got shut out of the 10k too. TC take it easy it is a long winter and lots of time to heal and regain. Me I m waiting till afternoon to run . I hope the little extra recovery time will help. So in the mean time The kids and I are watching Tony Stark ( Ironman ). Just happened to be on. Another weird thing the average mph setting on my car has been reading 26.2 for two days now. Funny something is telling me if you run the legs will be okay.

devashish_paul

Oct 31, 09 9:15

Post #340 of 431 (366 views)

Re: Falling Running Challenge ???? [tigerchik] [In reply to]	Can't Post

TC,

OK, sounds like you have reached "step 1" in the healing process, and I'm not talking about healing the injury, but fixing the grey matter between your ears which is what truly needs to be fixed. Look, we all push things way too hard, too long, too often. The difference between you, 90% of ST and me is that I'm actually wrapping up my 25th season in a row of racing triathlon. You don't get to where I am (and still putting down some all time PB's) without making all the dumbest mistakes in the book, but being fortunate enough to either overcome them through:

"early intervention",
reasonably good biomechanics,
healthy dosages or common sense
combination of all of the above

So if I offer up some input on what you might want to do and not, take it for what it is worth. Like you, I am driven to train way too much for my good, however, I do have a database of 25 years of mistakes that I can draw on when things start to go the wrong way and then try to steer clear.

Anyway, today 1:45 Computrainer ride with 1:14.45 TT on a 40K TT course with >2000 ft of climbing averaging 227W. I was hoping to do 235 average, but just did not have the legs. Then put on the running shoes and ran 1:10 (15K), with 30 minutes at half Ironman race pace, and my legs felt great. Some days you just can't do what you want on the bike, but you can on the run....other days it is the opposite. The days you can fly on the bike and run seem to be rare. The only time that seems to happen is when I "hit it full throttle" on a race day....but I guess that's why it is race day.

Dev

www.kestrelbicycles.com |www.infinitnutrition.ca | www.nineteenwetsuits.com
Free camps: Whiteface Hill Climb + Epicman Lake Placid 3k/180k/21k June 10/11 2010

AndyPants

Oct 31, 09 9:20

Post #341 of 431 (363 views)

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Ugh been out since Wed with Swine flu. Finally feeling up to an easy run today. I was aiming for 400km, but I'll be happy to get to 350... At least it wasn't that bad a flu - I've had worse - and now I don't need no stinkin vaccine LOL

Amazed at everyone's progress - maybe next year I'll be at that volume!

AP
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"How bad can it be?" - SimpleS

devashish_paul

Oct 31, 09 9:26

Post #342 of 431 (359 views)

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Hey, glad that you are feeling better...hear ya about the vaccine. Initially I was not going to bother with the vaccination, and probably still won't, but when there is enough for "general availability" I will get my 13 year old vaccinated. I was certainly pretty overwhelmed by the story of the 13 year old who died from swine flu this week. Can't imagine being the father.

tigerchik

Oct 31, 09 9:33

Post #343 of 431 (358 views)

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In Reply To:

OK, sounds like you have reached "step 1" in the healing process, and I'm not talking about healing the injury, but fixing the grey matter between your ears which is what truly needs to be fixed.

LOL.
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mmm, pi!

AndyPants

Oct 31, 09 9:56

Post #344 of 431 (356 views)

Re: Falling Running Challenge ???? [devashish_paul] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Yeah was pretty freaked out by that kid passing... K and L have had it too, so no need for shots in this house at all. Yet another bonus of living in BC (hardest hit by H1N1) I guess ;-)

AP
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"How bad can it be?" - SimpleS

bmanners

Nov 1, 09 8:16

Post #345 of 431 (338 views)

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Run - 8:08hrs- 61.5 mi Well there is my weeks total for run Today was a bit slow because my son rode along side of me on his bike. Good times!! Taking tommorow off from running and I am going on a 30 mile bike ride weather permitting. Longest mileage I have put in to date for a week. Knees hurt a bit but other then that feel good 60 more miles to go to hit platinum WOO-HOO!!!!

AndyPants

Nov 1, 09 8:22

Post #346 of 431 (332 views)

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Wow, that's awesome! GO GO GO! I'm still hoping I can get close to 400k ;-)

AP
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"How bad can it be?" - SimpleS

Chris G

Nov 1, 09 8:35

Post #347 of 431 (325 views)

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7.2 today makes just over 40 for the week. Today was day 20 in a row for me. Tomorrow the EN out season plan starts so will be layering a lot of trainer time on top of the running. Should be great.

Getting peer pressured into doing a local 15k next weekend, willing to bet that it is going to HURT.

Frank Ferrari

Nov 1, 09 16:46

Post #348 of 431 (294 views)

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1:20:53 on a challenging course.

devashish_paul

Nov 1, 09 17:34

Post #349 of 431 (287 views)

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Dude...that is awesome....looks like you are on track for sub 2:50 at Sacramento! I came back from Japan and between jetlag, bad weather and lack of riding, I bagged on the Beat Beethoven half marathon yesterday and spent the last 3 days focused on either riding against CT "metal man" or riding hills in the Gatineau Park. Today was 90K 3hour on the nose, 186 Ave watts, 2020 Kjoules, but most importantly did 18 intervals while in the hills, at 250-340W (1 to 8 min in length, so the shorter they were, the harder)....then 7K transition run and in the afternoon 3 more K of sprinting with the kids that I coach mixed in with 4K of hiking.

Top 10 from Angus Glen Half Marathon:

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Tom HESCH Elmvale 323 1:18:13.6 1:18:13.6 3:43 Men 30 - 34 1/18 1/294 2

David HIDDLESTON Toronto 328 1:20:12.0 1:20:12.0 3:49 Men 40 - 44 1/62 2/294 3

Ming-Chang TSAI Toronto 734 1:20:41.9 1:20:41.9 3:50 Men 35 - 39 1/47 3/294 4

Frank FERRARI Peterborough 235 1:20:53.7 1:20:53.7 3:51 Men 45 - 49 1/59 4/294 5

Rob CAMPBELL Peterborough 105 1:21:25.7 1:21:23.6 3:52 Men 40 - 44 2/62 5/294 6

Haijun LI Markham 417 1:22:30.8 1:22:30.8 3:55 Men 35 - 39 2/47 6/294 7

John TRANTER Oshawa 728 1:23:13.1 1:23:13.1 3:57 Men 55 - 59 1/32 7/294 8

Ken ARNOTT Newmarket 20 1:23:19.5 1:23:18.6 3:57 Men 45 - 49 2/59 8/294 9

Darryl KIELEC Omemee 378 1:25:00.9 1:24:58.1 4:02 Men 35 - 39 3/47 9/294 10

Gleb JEGALINE Toronto 360 1:26:00.0 1:25:57.8 4:05 Men 35 - 39 4/47 10/294

www.kestrelbicycles.com |www.infinitnutrition.ca | www.nineteenwetsuits.com
Free camps: Whiteface Hill Climb + Epicman Lake Placid 3k/180k/21k June 10/11 2010

(This post was edited by devashish_paul on Nov 1, 09 17:35)

caffynator

Nov 2, 09 5:24

Post #350 of 431 (261 views)

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*note to self* don't run around this urban / suburban jungle I call home during morning rush hour.......

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