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hank rearden
Feb 21, 08 9:34
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Crazy ToC Story: I Finally own a Zipp Wheel…
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I had a late start yesterday due to a meeting, but I was riding full speed to Sierra road to watch the riders suffer up the 15% grade. As I got close, I noticed the helis headed toward the start of the climb: they were moving fast. I ended up at the base and saw a few stragglers head up the hill. I changed direction and rode down Piedmont to see the riders negotiate the sharp corner from Calavares (steep hill) to Piedmont. Waiting around at the corner I noticed that it was going to be an interesting turn because a stop sign with an elevated curb separated both lanes. I watched Levi and the chase group slowly round the corner and rocket toward downtown. Next I decided to ride down Piedmont on the sidewalk (not very many people were on this section). The next group of about 6 riders were overtaking me so I decided to ride a little faster abreast of them (yes, I’m that guy). They fly by and I start up a slight rise in the road.
I hear “Red Jersey, Red Jersey.” I’m wearing a vanilla Pearl red jersey. “Red Jersey.” I’m thinking, WTF, I’m on the sidewalk because there is a race on the road, does the race “police” want me to walk? I peddle faster. “Red Jersey” I kick it up a notch, I’m amazed that a race volunteer can run that fast. Finally, “Red Jersey” is shouted very close to me. I stop feeling like I’m going to be busted for a crime. I look around and it is a CSC rider. “I need your rear wheel”. 5 seconds elapse were I’m trying to think about the fact that I’m riding my road bike and not my newer Cervelo and my road bike has a 9-speed cassette. My response, “Ok, but it may not fit”—not the technical response that I wanted. “It’s better than this” He lifts up his Zipp 404 that is trashed. Ok, I take the rear wheel off my bike and I’m not quite sure if I’m supposed to pop it in or he is going to do it. He puts it in, but the chain isn’t lined up on the cassette… I go down and line it up to pop the wheel in and he moves me aside to tighten the QR. He says- “This had to be the slowest wheel change ever” Me-“uh, sorry”. “Do you want a boost?” “Yeah”. I finally get my act together and launch him forward with a good full run in my cycling shoes (I’m glad I’ve got Crank Bros cleats). “Come to the finish, Team CSC, We will hook you up.” I then realized that I never even looked at his face and I don’t know who is on the CSC roster this year.
I’m standing around and now it is sinking in… What am I supposed to do now? I’m about 8-10 miles to the finish. I talk to several people on the side of the road and some of them thought that I was in the race and he was my team mate—nice. One of them offers me a ride downtown and I take it. It turns out that this guy is now retired from working 35 years in the same company that I work for. The day is getting more bizarre. It takes awhile to make it downtown with the road closures and by the time I arrive at the finish, Levi is on the podium. I go around to where the team cars are located, but CSC is nowhere to be found. I talk to a mechanic from Colorado with Mavic race support (he tells me- “you're a hero”) and he gives me the hotel that they are staying at which happens to be in Monterey (about 70 miles away). I head home by riding light rail.
I call the hotel from my house and bounce around a few rooms until I get ahold of Kim Andersen. After I tell my story, (yeah, I’m that guy) I tell him that I won’t be able to make any more stages… He says, “I don’t know what we can do.” “Can’t you mail me my wheel back; can you write down my address?” “No… that wouln’t work to well… I’m not great with writing english….” Hmmm... “What rider was it?” “Bobby…. Yeah, you should talk to him… here’s his room number.”
I call and leave a message with my phone number. Half an hour goes by and my phone rings… I’m on the phone with Bobby Julich.
He explains that he was turning onto Piedmont and he forgot about the traffic island and slammed into it. He continued riding for 1.5 miles when he saw me. “There was no way that I was going to let you get away without me taking your wheel.” I give him my address and comment that he could throw some zipps in with the box… He laughs and says that he will try and put “something in there from the team.”
I’m looking for a photo of Julich finishing with a yellow tire michelin rear wheel.
So, what should I do with the Zipp?
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Feb 21, 08 9:46
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Thats too cool. As for the wheel - well I would have thought CSC would want it back but if not, you should consider contacting Zipp to get a Return Authorization (RA) to have the rim replaced! Afterwards, you have a new wheel that you can sell on Ebay or use for racing.
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Feb 21, 08 9:47
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cool story, but.. outside assistance?
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Feb 21, 08 9:49
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Cool story, but obviously he should have paid attention to ST and been riding on clinchers. ;-)
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Feb 21, 08 9:50
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That's a pretty cool story, man. I don't remember what the UCI regs are on taking equipment from outside the race, but I'd have done the same thing (though he might not have done so well with a Campy cassette).
You've now got a cool memento.
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Feb 21, 08 9:52
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I'd hope he takes proper care of you... those things are expensive for us mere mortals. For how large of an operation CSC is, he can certainly 'do something for you' more than just mail your wheel back. For pete's sake - you being willing to loan him your $1000+ wheel allowed him to finish the race!
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Feb 21, 08 9:53
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cool story, but.. outside assistance?
It's not the same.
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Feb 21, 08 9:54
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wow, awsome story!
As for the wheel, I might spend a few bucks and send it back to zipp for repair! I don't thing that it woudl be free, but the story might give you some street cred ;-)
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Feb 21, 08 9:55
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I was watching a crit about 5 years ago when someone came walking up with a flat. I offered my rear wheel and he started to put it on and then just stopped, saying there is a rule about using support other than neutral or team.
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Feb 21, 08 10:03
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send a PM to Joshatzipp here and I bet he'd be willing to make a trade for something. They often like to analyze crash damage for structural improvements, they sponsor CSC and a story that Bobby J pinched your wheel is just hilarious.
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Feb 21, 08 10:09
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Regardless of how this situation ends up with the wheel...that's one hell of a story. Heck, I'd probably call it a day and keep the wheel around just to tell the story...
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Feb 21, 08 10:10
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I should add some clarification... The photo is his wheel that he blew up. My wheel was a basic vanilla Shimano WH-540. It should be in the mail soon. He rode the Shimano to the finish. I'm looking around for a photo of him finishing with my wheel.
Yeah, I'm hoping for the "hook up," but I'm a bit disappointed that it seemed to be a big deal to mail me my wheel back...
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Feb 21, 08 10:32
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Hank,
Great story and well told. I'd probably just hang onto the Zipp as a souvenir. You can tell people that it should be obvious it belonged to Julich because it's now shaped just like his chainring. ;-)
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Feb 21, 08 10:52
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is the tub punctured or is it still useable? if it's still useable you have a spare tub right there. add to that the dura ace 10 speed cassette, and the 24H zipp rear hub and that's the total value of your shimano wheel right there. not to mention the zipp skewer. Now all you have to do is ask zipp to sell you a flashpoint rear rim and you can recycle the spokes too. Not bad for a brand new race wheel.
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Feb 21, 08 11:03
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Get a metallic sliver sharpie and have him sign it, try to take a photo wtih him and get the screen shot or pic of the crash.
Keau
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Feb 21, 08 11:07
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That's an awesome story that I'm sure you'll be repeating for quite a few years to come!
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Feb 21, 08 11:07
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Heck, sell it on eBay...
"Some minor scratches from normal use"....
See if it has ceramics in it - pop em out and sell em! ;-)
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hank rearden
Feb 21, 08 11:14
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Pics of my rear wheel thanks to ss_luna:
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Feb 21, 08 11:16
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That's hilarious. Good story!
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Feb 21, 08 11:23
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Love the story and with pics no less! Would be very surprised if Julich didn't do right by you...
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Feb 21, 08 11:32
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LOL...I saw you on TV! I remember the yellow tire clear as day on the right side of the road - I commented to a friend that I miss my old yellow Vittoria Corsa CX tires....I will see if I can get a screen shot as I have it on the DVR.
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Feb 21, 08 11:38
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classic, frame the wheel
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Feb 21, 08 11:39
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Wonder why he did not get a new wheel from the team car or the Mavic Neutral support vehicle?
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Feb 21, 08 11:42
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Wonder why he did not get a new wheel from the team car or the Mavic Neutral support vehicle?
There are typically two - one with a lead group, the other behind the peloton....get somewhere in the middle and you are screwed.
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Feb 21, 08 11:43
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add to that the dura ace 10 speed cassette, and the 24H zipp rear hub and that's the total value of your shimano wheel right there. not to mention the zipp skewer. Now all you have to do is ask zipp to sell you a flashpoint rear rim and you can recycle the spokes too. Not bad for a brand new race wheel.
That's a good idea... And I could keep the rim for the garage wall hall of fame. But, I'm looking at the Zipp website. The Flashpoint 60 has 20 spokes for the rear... The 404 has 24.
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Feb 21, 08 11:45
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the old 2006 and 2007 version had 24 spokes.
you can try emailing shops with big rim inventories like www.wheelbuilder.com
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Feb 21, 08 11:46
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LOL...I saw you on TV!
The vs. coverage? They didn't show that section...
It's classic... I was thinking. "now this is an R10C story for sure; I need pics"
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Feb 21, 08 12:03
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I remember reading something similar a while back about a bystandard on a Colnago watching a race. Ride came by with the seatpost busted off his bike (got to this point standing the whole way). Asked if he could use his bike (thankfully had the same cleats and everything) and he tore off using it. Caught up with the team car a bit down the road..adjusted the seat height and he finished off the race. Think he might have won it too. Not sure what the guy or the team did for him but the bragging rights on his bike now..oi!
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Feb 21, 08 12:04
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You mean some other guy has yellow tires?
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Feb 21, 08 12:11
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I quickly zipped through the vs coverage last night and didn't see it, but I could have missed something. I'm also hoping that I'll find some pics of the "exchange". A couple of people with cameras were near by, and one of them thought I was actually in the race and was helping out a teammate. I should have grabbed contact info, but my mind was noticeably absent at the time.
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Feb 21, 08 12:14
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the old 2006 and 2007 version had 24 spokes.
Ok, I found a flashpoint wheel
http://www.prowheelbuilder.com/product.php?prod_id=614
with 24 hole option for $350. I think the spoke length is different.
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Feb 21, 08 12:22
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no the spoke length is the same as long as you use the zipp hub.
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Feb 21, 08 13:07
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A crash replacement for a FP-60 is cheaper than that. Call Zipp and ask what they can do for you. However, I'd leave out the whole story and ask if you could get the FP rim instead of the 404.
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Feb 21, 08 13:08
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I keep checking back to see if joshatzipp has posted an offer to take care of you in some way or another ;) Nothing yet...
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Feb 21, 08 13:15
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Hank,
You've got a photo of an Astana rider sucking your wheel!
Now THAT's impressive!
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Feb 21, 08 13:20
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[reply]is the tub punctured or is it still useable? if it's still useable you have a spare tub right there. add to that the dura ace 10 speed cassette, and the 24H zipp rear hub and that's the total value of your shimano wheel right there. not to mention the zipp skewer. Now all you have to do is ask zipp to sell you a flashpoint rear rim and you can recycle the spokes too. Not bad for a brand new race wheel.[/reply]
Plus the hub has ceramic bearings. Send it to Wheelbuilders and you can get a new rim.
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how do you know it has ceramic bearings?
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Feb 21, 08 13:27
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I wouldn't part with that wheel. Classic story, cool pics. Frame the whole wheel with the pics surrounding it and you've got something - E
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Feb 21, 08 13:28
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You've got a photo of an Astana rider sucking your wheel!
That is classic.
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by the way hank, did you ever happen to ask Bobby Julich how he managed to slam his rear wheel into the curb so hard it damaged to rim while his front wheel somehow managed to stay intact?
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Feb 21, 08 13:30
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Well. That's a really cool story! I'd keep the wheel as is..and hopefully CSC will hook you up with something for all your trouble. Maybe?
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Feb 21, 08 13:34
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by the way hank, did you ever happen to ask Bobby Julich how he managed to slam his rear wheel into the curb so hard it damaged to rim while his front wheel somehow managed to stay intact?
Just a guess...surprised by the curb, maybe he tried an emergency-bunnyhop but only managed to clear the front wheel?
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Feb 21, 08 13:35
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by the way hank, did you ever happen to ask Bobby Julich how he managed to slam his rear wheel into the curb so hard it damaged to rim while his front wheel somehow managed to stay intact?
I did not... The conversation was pretty quick, he was still amped. Right now, I'm thinking about about a thousand things that I could have come up with, but I was in-between bathtime and story time when he called. Failed bunny hop? I'm really hoping I'll be able to find someone that was on that corner to get that side of the story... I'm actively looking around on flikr for photos.
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Feb 21, 08 13:52
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Poor Bobby!
After all these years and he still crashes a lot!
Always did think he was one of the classiest riders in the peloton though.
Tell Julich you want that bike (with SRM included) when the season's over!
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Feb 21, 08 13:55
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Call Zipp and do the crash replacement. It's going to be around 300 and you'll have a brand new rim.
Don't put a flashpoint rim on that wheel...
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This is about 30 sec after the exchange. The exchange was just past the hill in the background. Julich was able to bridge up with the Astana rider:
I now remember the moto, It was right next to us during the switch:
And this was with about 1K to go:
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Feb 21, 08 14:19
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Great story. Let's see...CSC...Cervelo...Zipp...all of which could "make" this a truly "great" tale with a very small slide of hand...
Definitely keep us up to date on what happens.
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I will definately update when the box arrives... I'm waiting on what the definition of "hooked up" means to Julich.
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Feb 21, 08 15:18
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Man, that's cool. When you get the shimano rim back, I'd frame it, the pics and the damaged Zipp. (Unless of course, I could get the Zipp repaired/replaced!)
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That's hilarious that the race referee is riding with Bobby right after the change staring at his wheel. Probably saying "what's up with the shimano clincher? Mavic NS has Mavic's. Gee that's peculiar".
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Feb 21, 08 15:57
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Great story. I'd be willing to bet that CSC will take good care of you. Let us know how it comes out.
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Feb 21, 08 17:47
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I would hope the the officials would make any necessary exception given that Bobby was riding for 1.5 miles on it without support.
hank rearden
Feb 21, 08 17:54
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Actually the ref on the bike was stopped right behind us when the change was occurring.
Frank Day
Feb 21, 08 18:26
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Pics of my rear wheel thanks to ss_luna:
Bet your wheel has never gone so fast. Cool story. I would keep it and try to get him to sign it. Then keep on telling the story.
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Record10Carbon
Feb 21, 08 18:29
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I hear that Versus had to cut out the clip where he said "
yeah, then some guy was being a slow loach about giving me his freaking wheel...and the gearing? Was he on his wifes bike?"
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joesmith
Feb 21, 08 18:46
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what kind of crank is that? SRM powermeter with q-ring?
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Feb 21, 08 18:50
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In general, there are no real rules about outside technical assistance for a wheel change. It is part of the sport's "cachet" and history that a spectator can be so involved as to sacrifice something in the hopes the competitor can continue.
In the case of your crit rider who claimed a rule against a wheel change, he is most likely mistaken. In general, crits are small course and very fast. Taking support and feeding outside the designated zones is typically dangerous. So feeding is restricted by the commissaires to a particular area.
In the case of mechanical incidents, you have to get to the mech repair zone, often near the start finish. There, an official can consider your predicament and grant a "free lap" starting you back in with the pack the next time they come around, and you are still racing as if nothing happened.
You probably won't get a free lap if you take a change somewhere on the course, and come rolling around, dropped, saying "I flatted, then got a wheel, and now I want a free lap". Most commies will tell you you blew it, have fun catching up.
"no lap for you!"
In general you DON'T get a free lap for a crash. Only a mechanical incident. Crashing is part of racing and it is considered just another way you can lose a race. There is some forgiveness if your bike breaks or tire flats. A typical trick, if you have crashed, is to get your ass to the mech repair, and while you are running, jam your rear brake against the wheel. Make sure the mechanic has something to fix, so the commie says "oh yes, that's a mechanical problem too...
free lap for you
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Feb 21, 08 18:53
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that is truly one of the best yarns i've heard here...well done!
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Feb 21, 08 19:48
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I am a traveling Course Marshal with the Tour and I was working that corner and all I can say is that Julich is an amazing rider. He came down in a pack of about 20-30 and was in the back third. We were flagging like crazy but because of his position he could not see the median. He pulled his front wheel up at the last second, nailed the curb with his back, bounced up on to the front wheel (as if about to go over the bars), rode up onto the far sidewalk (there was a little opening where the curb was reduced as if at a cross walk), regained balance, and rode on.
Neutral support was ahead of them and team cars were still stuck on the hill. He immediately threw his hand up for a wheel, looked back and realized he was alone, and so he continued on. Your story is making the rounds of the entire race entourage. I believe you will get hooked up pretty good...
Anon
Sergio Escutia
Feb 21, 08 20:10
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what kind of crank is that? SRM powermeter with q-ring?
Nice combination 9 sp cogset + 10 sp lever-der system + O.SYMETRIC. I do not know why the CSC mechanic is always shaking his head about his exotic ring choice. ;)
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asgelle
Feb 21, 08 20:24
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"In general you DON'T get a free lap for a crash. Only a mechanical incident. "
Rule 1A20 "A mishap is a crash or mechanical accident ..."
Rule 3D5 Free Lap Rule "... A free lap may be granted for each mishap ..."
I don't think it could be clearer.
Record10Carbon
Feb 21, 08 21:04
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I know a few USAT marshals that would agree more with Paul...also sorta depends on the crash.
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Feb 21, 08 21:22
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If you're worried about getting your wheel back, I would PM IronCLM as soon as possible. I think she trains with him all the time.
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Feb 21, 08 21:58
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I am sure Julich will be reading Slowtwitch and you guys could hook up and exchange wheels....
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Feb 21, 08 22:00
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Interesting that it is last year wheel. I wonder if it was a 2008 wheel with the new carbon bridge technology if the wheel would had suffered the same fate.
Record10Carbon
Feb 21, 08 22:32
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