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Argon18 E112 weight question?

 
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atasic

Aug 25, 08 11:51

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Argon18 E112 weight question? Can't Post
I am going to test Argon18 E112 in the very near future. I have a little concern over it's weight. I know the conventional wisdom is aero over weight most of the time. Can someone educate me on how much the actual bike weight should influence my choice, assuming that the bike is a perfect fit. I am a relatively descent cyclist, no power meter, usual training and racing avg speeds are 23-24mph on rolling hill courses, currently riding 54cm 2007 aluminum Trek Equinox 9, no racing wheels. I am 5'9", 153lbs. I will focus on 70.3 racing as well as some olympic distance races. "A" race is Ironman 70.3 Kansas. Training and racing will mostly take place on rolling hills, heat, humidity and wind.
I did pick up by hand both Argon18 bikes and they are significantly heavier than my Trek. E112 being slightly lighter and this is all purely be my subjective feel. My concern is that weight on rolling hills. How much of a concern should this be.
Now, before you guys start pointing me to Cervelo, yes that is in consideration, however I am not impressed with the shop's fitter. In fact no triathlon fitting tech is available if buying Cervelo in my town, the guy has no certification, no knowledge of FIST or any other fit school. That almost puts Cervelo out of the picture for me.
Argon18 shop has a FIST knowledgeable tech, knows what he is talking about and good equipmnet for fitting.
Thanks for your input.


softrider

Aug 25, 08 11:55

Post #2 of 5 (312 views)
Re: Argon18 E112 weight question? [atasic] [In reply to] Can't Post
Why are you moving away from your current ride (TreK)? Are you having fit issues or just hoping the Argon will be a little faster aerodynamically? Does the bike shop that has the Argon deal with any other tri bikes that may be a possibility for you?


fatbastardtris

Aug 25, 08 12:00

Post #3 of 5 (306 views)
Re: Argon18 E112 weight question? [atasic] [In reply to] Can't Post
You can always get a fit somewhere other than where you buy the bike.


campled

Aug 25, 08 22:26

Post #4 of 5 (238 views)
Re: Argon18 E112 weight question? [atasic] [In reply to] Can't Post
My E112 XS frame : 1810grms, Fork (uncut) 551grms, seatpost (uncut) 294 grms.

Total build was 19pds (dura, 808's, Specialized tri tip saddle). Heavy but very very good overall ride.


atasic

Aug 26, 08 7:01

Post #5 of 5 (177 views)
Re: Argon18 E112 weight question? [campled] [In reply to] Can't Post
Thank you very much for responses. I was at a shop yesterday. I took the e112 for a test ride. I liked it. We weighed both bikes, mine and e112. Mine came out 2oz heavier. I guess weight should not be an issue. Curious, how is climbing rolling hills with it.
Nothing wrong with my Trek, but was looking for a carbon frame ride due to switching to mostly 70.3 distance next year. From what I understand comfort becomes an issue. I don't know any better than my Trek as I have never riden a road bike before. In terms of speed and performance it does a good job. I started a year ago avg speed about 19-20mph( no power meter) to be now usualy racing at 23-24mph over sprint or olympic distance. I did have to shorten the cockpit quite a bit from stock, 70mm stem (stock 110mm), seat all the way forward. It was sold to me by a Trek store where the fit was done too. This leads me to belive after learning a lot on this site that this 54cm frame maybe a little too big for me, particularly in the frame reach deprtment. I was looking to buy race wheels only, Zipp 404 front/808 rear, but found e112 with dura/ultegra mix+404s beeing advertised at $5374. I am waiting to get a proposal from the shop before making the call.
Yes I know I could get a fit somewhere else, but for sure not in Kansas City. It would involve a drive somewhere else or flying but than might as well buy the bike at the shop that will do the fit. We just got a LBS named Elite Cycling, where the owner is very skilled and knowledgeable with tri fitting, also is an Argon18 dealer. For now that is all he stocks. So that is why Argon18 is in the game.