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Helitech

Apr 7, 05 21:25

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European hate toward America / Discovery channel Can't Post

 
Just caught some highlights, They love us-just hate us making war. 425 million customers in the European Union, they block mergers, GE and Honeywell, Microsoft monopoly .

The reporter said the E.U. has banded cosmetics "with minute (parts per million) carcinogenic ingredients "forcing U.S. manufactures to change their ingredents ,maybe a good change. He asked why they still smoke like mad indoors, in France without any worry?


Trirunner

Apr 8, 05 0:14

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Re: European hate toward America / Discovery channel [Helitech] [In reply to] Can't Post

I am unsure what your point is. I caught the last half. Found it interesting. I particularly think that they did a good job explaining the secularism issue.

Regarding the cosmetics, it seems fair game to me. The US have similar rules to limit import of French liquors and I am sure there are other examples. I agree that the French smoking policies suck. In restaurants it looks like they locate the fans so that it sucks the air from the smoking area and blow it into the non-smoking one!


JustJulian

Apr 8, 05 1:29

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Re: European hate toward America / Discovery channel [Helitech] [In reply to] Can't Post

Not sure that hatred is exchangeable with concerned. If you (in the US) received goods/services that fell below your country's safety guidelines would you accept them? I draw an anology from when childrens toys were coming in from ROC had dolls eyes attached to the faces with 3" pins. The safety council had them withdrawn from shops and subsequently banned.

It seems to me that the example of "cosmetics with minute (parts per million) carcinogenic ingredients" failed to meet that country's legislation. I'm surprised Hans, that you need reminding that Euope is a combination of a multitude of very different countries and that very few are Anti-American, per se.

They love us-just hate us making war. I'm sure there is a strong anti-war contingency in the U.S. too. As are the Microsoft monopoly getting blocked, I would support most monopolies being blocked as a monopoly does not create a very desirable situation for anyone outside of the company that holds it.


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Helitech

Apr 8, 05 5:13

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Re: European hate toward America / Discovery channel [Trirunner] [In reply to] Can't Post

It seems when markets impose their ( odd ) rules to limit competition of other countries. Like Russia buys U.S. chicken ,the locals Russian farmers throw a red flag that they think it has too high a hormone level . As far as french wine ,I find it almost anywhere at a reasonable price. The E. U. has most of Europe as members with some of the eastern block countries joining in a year or so . My friends from Europe find less " things to take home " as they can get it cheaper there". Just my observation


Helitech

Apr 8, 05 17:57

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Re: European hate toward America / Discovery channel [jk_allen13] [In reply to] Can't Post

 
Europe is a combination of a multitude of very different countries and that very few are Anti-American, per se.
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They are pro American $$,, anti war

The Brits are with us, most others are half hearted as far as war. Anti war here gets tangled with politics - friend that went - religions - / I see both sides . My point was that the E.U. changes its spec,s on imports to block U.S. products , Sure japan subsidizes its rice, other countries have health and safety concerns with good reason . That did not seem be the case with their restrictions.

It appeared that the French thought we mixed church and state, with G W Bush's remark of "We will win the war with gods help " as Osama says " ALA will help us defeat the infidels "I guess he has no state.

With its growing size ,the E.U. can wield its power with its euro dollar value.


(This post was edited by Helitech on Apr 8, 05 18:00)


JustJulian

Apr 9, 05 1:21

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Re: European hate toward America / Discovery channel [Helitech] [In reply to] Can't Post

My point was that the E.U. changes its spec,s on imports to block U.S. products

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Would not most countries be expected to protect their home markets, and therefore jobs and home economy, from cheaper imports from abroad? Seems a not entirely unreasonable action.


"How bad can it be?" - SimpleS


think-or-thwim

Apr 10, 05 11:39

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Re: European hate toward America / Discovery channel [jk_allen13] [In reply to] Can't Post

Can't see any hatred either. Restrictions like that are very normal and common practice throughout the world. I used to work for an American company over here in GER. We produced certain parts which were then sent to the US for further assembly. I remember our forwarder complain about Amercan customs restrictions and regulations, which made transporting/ exporting to the US more than complicated.



Apart from customs duties, which are made in order to protect own economies, more and more regulations come into place which make international business complicated, but which also support own market standards.

And as I said before: everwhere throughout this globe! ...Hatred?
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