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What aircraft does the First Lady fly on?

 

   


Desiderata

Apr 15, 10 14:55

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I know that an aircraft is never "Air Force One" unless the President is on board it (i.e., his 747 changes to a different call sign if/when it's flying without him). Same with his helicopter, which is never "Marine One" unless he's aboard.

But what plane does the First Lady fly upon when she's travelling without her husband? One of the 757s? What's it's call sign when only she's aboard?


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JSA

Apr 15, 10 15:01

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From the White House:


No matter where in the world the President travels, if he flies in an Air Force jet, the plane is called Air Force One. Technically, Air Force One is the call sign of any Air Force aircraft carrying the President. In practice, however, Air Force One is used to refer to one of two highly customized Boeing 747-200B series aircraft, which carry the tail codes 28000 and 29000. The Air Force designation for the aircraft is VC-25A.

So, if she is on one of those two planes, they still call it Air Force One.
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fred_h

Apr 15, 10 15:01

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Air Force Two?
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Khai

Apr 15, 10 15:18

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In Reply To:
Air Force Two?
:)

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That was my first thought as well...

But then, what does Joe get to use? Ground Force One? :p


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Desiderata

Apr 15, 10 15:30

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I don't think that's right. From the quote: "...if he flies in an Air Force jet, the plane is called Air Force One. Technically, Air Force One is the call sign of any Air Force aircraft carrying the President." In this case ("this case" being Michelle Obama's visit to my San Diego today) the President is not on board the plane, so, as we can infer from the quote, its call sign is not Air Force One.

Yeah, "in practice" the VC-25As are called "Air Force One," but that doesn't mean that it is, technically, Air Force One. That's just what we call the big, pretty blue and white 747. Its status as the big pretty 747 alone doesn't make it "Air Force One."


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xraycharlie

Apr 15, 10 15:45

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But then, what does Joe get to use? Ground Force One? :p

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Lazy Ben

Apr 15, 10 15:48

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Desiderata

Apr 15, 10 17:36

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It's "Air Force One Foxtrot," or, more technically, "AF1F."

See table 2-3-8: http://www.faa.gov/...r/CHG2ATC3-12-09.pdf

But that leaves another point open: does she get the 747 or does she get one of the 757s? I'm betting 757, as there are only two (I think) 747s, and their communication/defensive capabilities are needed (and therefore reserved) for his use, not hers.


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(This post was edited by Good to Go on Apr 16, 10 11:42)


efernand

Apr 16, 10 10:45

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LOL


drn92

Apr 16, 10 13:31

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Whatever plane the big guy is on is "Air Force One," although typically people think of the big 747 when they hear this.

Whatever plane the #2 guy is on (Big Joe in this case) is "Air Force Two."

Whatever plane the First Lady is on is "Executive Foxtrot One."

They have a bunch of different jets they fly, including the big 747, a few 757's, some BBJ's (737's), and a bunch of Gulfstreams (3's, 5's, and 550's mainly).

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