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Official Windows 7 thread; what do you think so far?

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SSsweeney

Oct 22, 09 13:15

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I got a new HP 17'' laptop today with Windows7 and IE8. I've got a lot to figure out but it looks beautiful. It already makes my XT desk top feel like my grandmother's computer. I've got to go find out what this computer can do. I'll post more as I get the feel for it and please let me know how you like Win7

MJuric

Oct 22, 09 13:21

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Re: Official Windows 7 thread; what do you think so far? [Sweeney] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Definitely interested in updates on this. I ran away screaming from Vista after using it a couple times and never installed on a single one of my machines. I'm all for making things "Dumbed down" but YES I WANT TO DO THAT.

How is it on resources? Drive space, memory etc? Does it play nice with others? IOW does it work as well with Mozilla and other non MS products as it does IE, etc?

~Matt

SSsweeney

Oct 22, 09 13:29

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Re: Official Windows 7 thread; what do you think so far? [MJuric] [In reply to]	Can't Post

I got my desk top the last month that you could get XP without jumping through hoops. Waited until Vista was dead to get the lap top. 7 uses half the memory of Vista and is suposed to give you all the good stuff Vista had without all the crud. I'm not a techie so I hope someone else will help out with some details on 7.

JasoninHalifax

Oct 22, 09 13:29

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Re: Official Windows 7 thread; what do you think so far? [Sweeney] [In reply to]	Can't Post

If you're running an XT computer, then I'm sure that you are happy with the new OS. About time for a new one after 25 years....

I'm running Vista on my machines just fine, no need to upgrade for me.

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(This post was edited by JasoninHalifax on Oct 22, 09 13:46)

edwinj

Oct 22, 09 13:42

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Re: Official Windows 7 thread; what do you think so far? [Sweeney] [In reply to]	Can't Post

I've been toying with the Beta and then the RC since they were released. I had some issues with the beta, but they were mostly driver related. I don't think I had any issues with the RC and I just installed the officeal release version(Win7 Ultimate 64-bit) last night. I had a slight issue in that it didn't seem to like partitioning, but when I let it install on an unallocated drive, it took probably 90 minutes. Windows update grabbed the recent drivers for my hardware. I haven't gone through yet to determine if they are the latest, but I've noticed on Vista and on the Win7 RC, the graphics drivers tend to be 1 or 2 versions old compared to either Nvidia or ATI's website.

When I get home I'll see what the footprint is, although I've already installed a few apps,(but not my 100's of GB of media), so it will be a little larger than a bare install.

Items of interest:
1. Google Crome (dev channel) installed without any hitches and runs great(I wish there were more extensions)
2. Grabbing additional themes from the MS site isn't intuitive, I had to save them and then figure out where the themes folder was and copy them there. But they do have really cool looking themes you can grab.
3. I wish notepad could open PDF files. I abhor Adobe Reader and use Foxit, but native PDF support would be nice.
4. I haven't installed Lightroom yet, but I don't imagine it will have any problems.

Will update later.

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edwinj

Oct 22, 09 13:47

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Re: Official Windows 7 thread; what do you think so far? [Sweeney] [In reply to]	Can't Post

"It already makes my XT desk top feel like my grandmother's computer."

I think even a netbook would make an XT desktop feel like your grandmother's computer. Speaking of which, if you're running an XT, what does G-ma have? Kaypro? TRS-80? C-64? :) (I'm sure you meant XP, but if you didn't, I think you would give Luddite a new definition to be still running an XT.)

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R10C

Oct 22, 09 13:48

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Re: Official Windows 7 thread; what do you think so far? [Sweeney] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Shit with a chance of Shit.....I had issues with new four letter extensions getting all fucked up when there was more than one set of macro lines on a spread sheet - when sent the recipient it would convert to individual tabs on the new xlst. So, if a name matched a customer number and address - that was one page. Dollar counts another tab, tax another tab and auto fill payment address yet another tab. It would even print and pdf to be separate. Re-Installed Vista and Office 07 Pro.

To many bugs for business use - hands down, then again something like 80%+ of business machines are on XPP yet.

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JenHS

Oct 22, 09 13:50

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Re: Official Windows 7 thread; what do you think so far? [Sweeney] [In reply to]	Can't Post

I installed 7 on my laptop when the RC came out and the performance improvement was very noticable. I haven't installed the released version yet but I'll get to it. There are a couple little things that I like. There is a Snipping tool that lets you do a screen capture of just sections of the screen, not the whole stupid thing. Paint has some nice improvements and the preview feature of open windows when hovering over the icon in the taskbar is killer.

Less overall footprint on my machine. Only problem I've had is my wireless printer just doesn't want to work but I suspect that it will once I update drivers it will work fine.

Install was very smooth, no glitches. Its going over very well inside MSFT and there is a high bar in here. It is known when software sucks, it just isn't talked about.

(disclaimer: I work at Microsoft, my husband works for Microsoft, we have been at the company in one capacity or another since the mid-90s.)

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SSsweeney

Oct 22, 09 14:04

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Re: Official Windows 7 thread; what do you think so far? [edwinj] [In reply to]	Can't Post

"It already makes my XT desk top feel like my grandmother's computer."

I know, I thought of it when I was writing the second post but didn't correct it. I was shopping for a new short cage XT derrailleur on the other machine right before I started this thread, so it must have stuck. I'm taking my Niner to 1X9 with a 30 tooth ring in front and 11-34 rear and need a short cage RD (XT)

gbot

Oct 22, 09 14:10

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Re: Official Windows 7 thread; what do you think so far? [Sweeney] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Been running it for around 8 months now. Rock solid, fast, they made up for the mess that was Vista.

walnutcreek tri

Oct 22, 09 16:02

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Re: Official Windows 7 thread; what do you think so far? [gbot] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Question......If I have an older pc that is slow running XPP, will an upgrade to W7 speed my pc up?

Sausagetail

Oct 22, 09 16:16

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Re: Official Windows 7 thread; what do you think so far? [walnutcreek tri] [In reply to]	Can't Post

I've run XP, Vista, and Windows 7 on this laptop and XP was by far the fastest. Of course, older versions of Firefox and other programs 5 years ago used less system resources.

riotgear

Oct 22, 09 17:04

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Re: Official Windows 7 thread; what do you think so far? [Sweeney] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Ran the beta for a while and ordered a DVD of Win7 Pro Full for 30 bucks. I'll definitely be glad when it arrives next week and will build it up with my new i7 rig. So stoked!

Local Star

Oct 22, 09 17:28

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Re: Official Windows 7 thread; what do you think so far? [Sweeney] [In reply to]	Can't Post

I'll be picking up a new laptop with Win 7 in the next week. I'm stoked for it.

I can't believe I got a laptop with 1gb of ram in '06 for $1200 and will be getting a laptop with 4gb of ram for $600!!

hgrong

Oct 22, 09 18:01

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Re: Official Windows 7 thread; what do you think so far? [Local Star] [In reply to]	Can't Post

In Reply To:

I can't believe I got a laptop with 1gb of ram in '06 for $1200 and will be getting a laptop with 4gb of ram for $600!!

And in three more year, that $600 for 4gb will seem like a joke. You will probably have that much in your cell phone by that time.

D!

Oct 22, 09 19:12

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Re: Official Windows 7 thread; what do you think so far? [JenHS] [In reply to]	Can't Post

In Reply To:

(disclaimer: I work at Microsoft, my husband works for Microsoft, we have been at the company in one capacity or another since the mid-90s.)

You forgot to mention that you don't actually like Microsoft though ;)

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DawnT

Oct 23, 09 6:12

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Re: Official Windows 7 thread; what do you think so far? [Sweeney] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Good review of Windows 7 on this article from TechRepublic:

http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=3114

sentania

Oct 23, 09 6:20

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Re: Official Windows 7 thread; what do you think so far? [Sweeney] [In reply to]	Can't Post

I've been using it since January or February. Been very happy with it - I installed the RTM about 2 weeks ago and had no issues.

Works great on my 6 year old or so desktop, and works even better on my 6 month old laptop. Absolutely no complaints.

Well I take that back - my only complaint is that WKO+ is hardcoded to store my data in C:\users\%username%\documents, and does not respect my Domain GPO that redirects the documents folder elsewhere.

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mcdoublee

Oct 23, 09 6:38

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Re: Official Windows 7 thread; what do you think so far? [JenHS] [In reply to]	Can't Post

In Reply To:

It is known when software sucks, it just isn't talked about.

Crickets for IE and Outlook?

I wish there weren't so many different versions. I just don't understand why they purposely remove features from various versions then sell an ultimate version. Why not just sell one version that has ALL the functionality? To me, it just makes all the competing OS's look, eh, better or more serious?

Also, 32-bit option... come on, It's time to MOVE ON! I thought it was one of the bigger mistakes with Vista.

Finally, I wish there was a demo version (90-day killswitch or something), I'd love to give it a try. I actually have a brand new computer on my desk right now going through an XP install... oh well. Maybe next year.

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sentania

Oct 23, 09 6:56

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Re: Official Windows 7 thread; what do you think so far? [mcdoublee] [In reply to]	Can't Post

I'd have to look and see if there is a 60-90-180 day version of Windows 7 like there is with Server 2008..

But you can install WIndows 7 and have 90 days to try it until you are forced to activate and enter a licesne and/or reinstall.

I think the concept behind the different versions is to offer Windows at different price points. Why pay 300+ bucks for an OS if you won't use features X,Y and Z; when you can pay $199 for a version of it that doesn't contain features X, Y and Z - and if you decide you want those features later it's a simple easy upgrade.

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sentania

Oct 23, 09 7:02

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Re: Official Windows 7 thread; what do you think so far? [sentania] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Trial for the enterprise edition:

http://technet.microsoft.com/...5.aspx?ITPID=wtcfeed.

I don't know if that media contains Ultimate and whatever else, otherwise jsut get your hands on a Retail disc from a torrent site or a friend and install and you'll have 90 days to activate.

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mcdoublee

Oct 23, 09 7:09

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Re: Official Windows 7 thread; what do you think so far? [sentania] [In reply to]	Can't Post

But my point is that a modern operating system should include all of those X, Y, and Z components. Not including them in certain versions to hit a price point seems like nickle and diming their customers.

I realize that I'm not a typical pc user, when looking to a new computer I am agnostic whether it is apple, windoze, or linux. They all are great and terrible for various reasons.

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TriadGoGreen

Oct 23, 09 7:30

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Re: Official Windows 7 thread; what do you think so far? [JenHS] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Quote:

There is a Snipping tool that lets you do a screen capture of just sections of the screen, not the whole stupid thing.

That seriously is new? How f'ing lame is it that they just added that in?! No wonder why Microsoft is so lame.

sentania

Oct 23, 09 7:34

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Re: Official Windows 7 thread; what do you think so far? [TriadGoGreen] [In reply to]	Can't Post

It was present in Vista, they just made it more prominent in Win 7.

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MJuric

Oct 23, 09 7:36

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Re: Official Windows 7 thread; what do you think so far? [Record10Carbon] [In reply to]	Can't Post

Early releases are usually crap. Have to wait for SP4.1315.111A19 or so :-)

~Matt

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