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slowguy

Jul 24, 08 7:22

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The IOC has announced that it will not allow any Iraqi athletes to compete in the Bejing Olympic Games due to govt interference in the Iraqi Olympic Committee.

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ajfranke

Jul 24, 08 7:28

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I didn't think I had ever heard a reason for us to boycott the Olympics before.

Now, maybe I have.
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slowguy

Jul 24, 08 7:29

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Why would we boycott the Olympics for this?

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Monk

Jul 24, 08 7:59

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I didn't think I had ever heard a reason for us to boycott the Olympics before.

Now, maybe I have.

  But letting Iraq torture the athletes for losing didn't raise an eyebrow.


cuds

Jul 24, 08 8:02

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I didn't think I had ever heard a reason for us to boycott the Olympics before.

Now, maybe I have.

  But letting Iraq torture the athletes for losing didn't raise an eyebrow.

  But are they punishing the government in doing this, or the athletes at the end of the day? Though, I do agree with your statement!
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ajfranke

Jul 24, 08 9:06

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Are you referring to Sadam's son's?
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vitus979

Jul 24, 08 9:11

Post #7 of 14 (165 views)
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How was the Iraqi government interfering with the Iraqi Olympic Committee?







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ajfranke

Jul 24, 08 9:14

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Re: No Olympics for Iraqis [vitus979] [In reply to] Can't Post

This is all I have seen on CNN:

The move stems from an Iraqi government decision in May to suspend Iraq's Olympic Committee and form a temporary committee to handle its duties.


The Iraqi government thought the committee had not been operating properly and as a result undermined the sporting movement in Iraq.
The government said the original committee held meetings without quorums and had officials serving in one-year posts for more than five years. Many of the officials also lived outside Iraq, the government said. iReport.com: See a cartoonist's take on the decision
Sure, the IOC banned them because meetings weren't held properly. I do own some swampland, if you want to buy it.
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slowguy

Jul 24, 08 9:23

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In May, the Iraqi government disbanded the national Olympic committee supposedly because it was unable to reach a quorum since 4 of its 11 members had been kidnapped in Baghdad. The Iraqi govt appointed a new committee, instead of allowing the members to be elected, which apparently conflicts with IOC policy. The new "interim" committee was suspended by the IOC in June. The Iraqi govt has been accused of disbanding the original committee so it could place it's own members in those prestigious positions, and in return, the Iraqi govt has accused the original committee of corruption. The Youthand Sports Ministry, the head of which is now the head of the interim committee, is largely Shiite, and the previous committee was mostly Sunni. The original IOC suspension of the Iraqi committee happened in June, and I guess they have heard all the appeals and decided it's now too late for acceptance and Iraq is out of luck. I think it only effects about 7 athletes, and there was talk of letting them compete under the Olympic flag.

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vitus979

Jul 24, 08 9:27

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Hmmm. I tend to agree with Art. No way is any of that the worst I have heard of when it comes to Olympic politics.







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slowguy

Jul 24, 08 9:34

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I still don't see why this would be any reason for us to boycott.

Slowguy

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vitus979

Jul 24, 08 9:40

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No, I wouldn't guess that it is. I'm only saying that I don't believe the IOC is on the up and up here. But the IOC is hardly never on the up and up, and they've done worse than this before and we haven't boycotted.







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ajfranke

Jul 29, 08 13:48

Post #13 of 14 (60 views)
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Slowguy calls it right. Iraqi Olympic ban lifted.

Chalk one up for "aggressive diplomacy."

The International Olympic Committee ruled Tuesday that Iraq could participate in the Beijing games, reversing itself after the government pledged to ensure the independence of its national Olympics panel.
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dave_w

Jul 29, 08 14:31

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    Anyone read the scathing articles about the Olympics in the current issue of "Foreign Policy"? They are not fans, the web only offers the intro to one:

Think Again: The Olympics By John Hoberman July/August 2008 “The Olympics Aren’t Political”

Yes, they are. International Olympic Committee (IOC) President Jacques Rogge said in March, “We do not make political choices, because if we do, this is the end of the universality of the Olympic Games.” Two weeks later, Rogge observed indignantly, “Politics invited itself in[to] sports. We didn’t call for politics to come.” But after 75 years of watching the political manipulation and exploitation of the Olympic Games, can anyone actually believe this?

Trapped by its grandiose goal of embracing the entire “human family” at whatever cost, the IOC has repeatedly caved in and awarded the games to police states bent on staging spectacular festivals that serve only to reinforce their own authority. Of course, the most notorious example is the 1936 Berlin Games, which were promoted by a network of Nazi agents working both inside and outside the IOC. Pierre de Coubertin, the French nobleman who founded the modern Olympic movement, called Hitler’s games the...

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