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ashayk
Aug 7, 08 17:21
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McCain is going to "battle big oil"?
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It's in the new "Broken" commercial at
http://www.johnmccain.com/.
What does that mean?
trio_jeepy
Aug 8, 08 5:56
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It is such a blatant lie its not even funny.
There's already been press about Hess Oil employees' rather large donations to him and the RNC just a week before he reversed his stance on offshore drilling. Look up some of the allegations of money-laundering, they're fascinating. Evidently, one of the Hess employees donated both the full $2300 and $28500 to McCain and the RNC, as did her husband. She is an office manager for Hess. Her husband is a track foreman for Amtrak. They rent their home in Flushing, Queens. They've donated to a political campaign, much less a political party. Yet they donated $61600 of non-deductible funds to McCain, or unless I'm mistaken, about $100k of pre-tax earnings to McCain/RNC. Gee, that's not suspicious at all, is it?
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David in FL
Aug 8, 08 6:21
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It is such a blatant lie its not even funny.
I sure hope you're right.....because, for the life of me, I can't think of much with respect to "Big Oil" that needs "battling"!
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in a grey twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
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ashayk
Aug 8, 08 7:05
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Yes, I'm thinking that part of the McCain commercial is indeed a big fat lie.
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Aug 8, 08 7:15
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BWAHHHHH!
"Washington is broken......"
mmmm...earth to Sen. McCain...you've been part of Washington for three decades. Helllllllooooo........
fitzie
Aug 8, 08 7:18
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I say "Bullshit!" when they say they are going to battle Big Oil. McCain has received over $1 Million dollars from the Oil and Gas Industry in 2008. He is the number one Senator on the list. Obama is #4 at about $345K.
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Fatmouse
Aug 8, 08 7:33
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How does he support the other claims about being the only one to take on those other industries?
If we can find a silver lining, at least this particular ad doesn't lie about Obama.
Did you see how McCain is now paying people to post positive stuff on blogs and forums? Someone called it the "Frequent Liar" program.
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David in FL
Aug 8, 08 7:38
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Did you see how McCain is now paying people to post positive stuff on blogs and forums? Someone called it the "Frequent Liar" program.
Have you been seeing more black helicopters lately too? ;-)
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in a grey twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
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Fatmouse
Aug 8, 08 7:45
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Here's how you can join and learn the day's talking points while getting credit for your posts...
http://www.johnmccain.com/...ct/BlogInteract.aspx
No black helicopters needed.
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David in FL
Aug 8, 08 7:59
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How is he
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Certainly you're not referring to the silly "points" thing!?
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in a grey twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
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ajfranke
Aug 8, 08 8:00
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By get paid, you actually mean get brownie points?
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Fatmouse
Aug 8, 08 8:08
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Hey. Free stuff is free stuff right?
;-)
Less than 3 months 'till election day and I have yet to see a pro-McCain bumper sticker or yard sign here in seriously red North Carolina. Even the trucks with Bush/Cheney and "W the President" stickers aren't proclaiming their support.
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stl_triness
Aug 8, 08 8:10
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So are you surprised that Exxon has given more money to Obama than McCain?
trio_jeepy
Aug 8, 08 8:12
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You should probably examine that methodology - yes, overall, all Exxon employees, including low-level ones, gave more to Obama. However, if you look at the industry overall, its still McCain by 4x.
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Aug 8, 08 8:19
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i am surprised by obama taking any $ from big oil. man that glass house thing sucks.
Cavechild
Aug 8, 08 11:08
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I say "Bullshit!" when they say they are going to battle Big Oil. McCain has received over $1 Million dollars from the Oil and Gas Industry in 2008. He is the number one Senator on the list. Obama is #4 at about $345K.
Old Klingon saying "Only Nixon could go to China"
stevensondrive
Aug 8, 08 13:17
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I really don't understand this hatred of American oil companies. would you be happier if we only got oil from BP or Saudi oil companies?? I'm so happy for them I recently bought shares of XOM.
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Tridiot
Aug 8, 08 13:23
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I'll see if I can find the post, but read a good thing about the whole "transfer of wealth" stuff that people raise.
Buying from foreign oil producers is bad because we're sending them all our money. The retort economically speaking is that this is hooey, as we're trading our money for their oil commensurate with the value we place on the oil. An interesting view.
David in FL
Aug 8, 08 16:08
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The retort economically speaking is that this is hooey, as we're trading our money for their oil commensurate with the value we place on the oil. An interesting view.
Tell that particular
economist
(using the term loosely) to put a $50 bill into his gas tank and see how far it takes him.
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in a grey twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
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ashayk
Aug 8, 08 22:27
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I really don't understand some people's reading comprehension. Did I ever say big oil needs battling? What I said was that I was baffled by the statement in McCain's commercial. Why don't you direct you criticism towards him.
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