chuck norris is going to roundhouse kick you for that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDUQW8LUMs8

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I thought Chuck Norris was passe - isn't it all about Tim Tebow now?

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"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" - Benjamin Franklin
"Don't you see the rest of the country looks upon New York like we're left-wing, communist, Jewish, homosexual pornographers? I think of us that way sometimes and I live here." - Alvy Singer, "Annie Hall"

I'd have thought that the whole "ok, i don't know much, but i'm a good guy and believe in Jesus" act wouldn't work anymore. doesn't seem to be the case.

wtf is that???????
This was a presidential candidate ad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You must be kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fred.

I saw this on ABC last night. This could happen to any governor, really (Not that that will give the media pause) ... I hope to be too busy to watch much news tonight but I gotta ask: How much play will this get on CNN v. Fox? If it was a Dem gov. running for president, how differently would they play it? Good question to ask I think ...

Best campaign ad ever.

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not how would they play it, but how did they play it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC9j6Wfdq3o

If it was a Dem gov. running for president, how differently would they play it? Good question to ask I think

Two words: Mike Dukakus

I don't think anyone has accused him of a lack of intelligence. He graduated magna cum laude with his bachelor's degree in 2 1/2 years.

His faith discussions, while strong, are more around forgiveness and mercy, rather than being angry at others. Clearly not an appeal to the existing religious right, but more in line with my own beliefs. He's not the fire and brimstone type that you might expect.

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What scares me most about Huckabee is that 2 days after the NIE Iran report was published and the whole damn country seems to be talking about it, Huckabee was asked for his opinion on CNN and he said "what NIE report?"

I've had enough of Presidents who spend more time reading the Bible than the newspaper.

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He graduated magna cum laude from Ouachita Baptist University. This is their list of notable alumni. I'm sure he's not an unintelligent man, but lets get real here. Its not like he was top of his class at Stanford, he went to a Christian beauty school.

Notable alumni

• Eva Ware Barnett - composer of "Arkansas," Arkansas state anthem
• Shelley Breen, Heather Payne, Denise Jones, and Terry Jones of Christian pop music group Point of Grace
• Winston Bryant - Attorney General of Arkansas, 1990 to 1999
• Sharon Evans - Miss Arkansas 1967
• Helen Rose Gennings - Miss Arkansas 1968
• Donna Jo Connelly - Miss Arkansas 1970
• Lisa Stevens - Miss Arkansas 1984
• Beth Anne Rankin - Miss Arkansas 1994
• Lauren Davidson - Miss Arkansas 2002
• Lacy Flemming - Miss Arkansas 2004
• Leon A. Green - notable legal scholar, dean of Northwestern University School of Law
• Frank D. Hickingbotham - founder of TCBY, international frozen yogurt and ice-cream franchise
• William J. Holloway - Governor of Oklahoma, 1929 to 1931
• Mike Huckabee - Governor of Arkansas from 1996 to 2007, current candidate for President
• Susan McDougal - involved in Whitewater scandal, author of The Woman Who Wouldn't Talk
• William Miller - professional football player in the Canadian Football League and the USFL.
• Nell I. Mondy - biochemist and international expert on the potato
• Cliff Harris - former All-Pro Dallas Cowboys safety
• Tommy Patterson - former NBA forward for the Baltimore Bullets
• TJ Bingham - Former NFL player

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This is very different than Dukakis - Dukakis commuted a guy because he thought he was rehabilitated, which is a basic mission of the system. Horton was not a cause celebre or touted as a victim of injustice.

Huckabee commuted a sentence of a guy who was being pushed by the right because they argued that he was railroaded in the first place because his victim was related to Clinton. And apparently Huckabee agreed, despite a bunch of letters from victims talking about how violent and dangerous he was. And apparently Huckabee and the activists were wrong in their Clinton-hating fury.

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Honest question: How does that compare to Bush's beliefs.

Bush ran on the "compasionate conservative" campaign and, IMHO, he's been just about the most aggressive president in my life time.

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I may be wrong about this, but I read a pretty detailed article about Huckabee and this case a few months ago. I was under the impression that Huck's intervention in the case had very little or nothing to do with the victim being a distant Clinton relative and a lot to do with the vigilante punishment that was delivered to him prior to his incarceration.

What vigilante punishment?

the guy chopped his own nuts off didn't he?

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"A society is defined not only by what it creates, but by what it refuses to destroy."
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I thought he was castrated by friends or family of the victim. I fully admit I may have the facts wrong; I casually read the article some months ago and I've never been a supporter of Huck. I've been paying far more attention to Richardson and Guiliani.

Yet another reason to be worried. It's one thing to have a graduate of such a school in office, but where will his appointees come from. Shall we get more lawyers from Pat Robertson's school of law?

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Nobody has ever been charged with that alleged attack and the local police didn't spend much time investigating it after medical evidence showed that he most likely did it to himself.

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Ah. Thanks for setting me straight.

Talk about being topical - I just saw this on the CNN homepage as we were discussing the story here. Interesting backround:

http://www.cnn.com/...ee.dumond/index.html

The local sheriff kept his nuts in a jar? Remind me not to rob a bank in that town!

I don't see how this is the big deal you make it out to be. He released a prisoner with time served that he thought might have been railroaded and possibly mistreated. This is exactly what the pardon power is for. Unfortunately, in this case, he made a poor choice. That is going to happen when people actually make decisions. Hopefully he will admit the poor choice and pledge to move on with a lesson learned.
This is not really comparable to Dukakis and Willie Horton. In that case Dukakis pushed through a whole program of releasing convicted killers on leave. That case showed terrible judgment and poor policy making.

More important might be reports that he used his clemency powers a lot. If this case is just one of many problems caused by that policy, then you do get to a Dukakis type problem.

Even more to your point, he didn't issue a pardon. His involvement was limited to writing a letter of support to the parole commitee, and they issued the pardon. Semantics, maybe, but it is factually wrong to say that Governor Huckabee released him from prison.

Gee art - you're attacking a democrat and defending a republican. who'd've thunk it?

I am defending a Republican by saying he made a bad decision and needs to own up to it?

Tough crowd.

I guess this is why the top Democrats are devoid of anyone who has had any sort of Executive responsibility. They have never had to make a decision, so no need to fess up to a bad one.

There are two governors and a big city mayor on top of the nomination battle in the Republican side for a reason. The two senators are in the back of the pack for a reason.